It made me smile when you added “and gals” thank you! This is a great video. Just the info I’ve been looking for and I haven’t seen anyone do that with the Waterproofing membrane on the taped tub flange but I LOVE it I’m going to definitely do that. It makes sense it likes to stick better than thinset. Thank you!
@JustFixIt99 Жыл бұрын
This is an excellent video. Explained by someone who is actually doing the work, in simple terms, using products that are available to us mere mortals. Thanks for making this one.
@vegantreemama4873 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your videos. My husband and I were lost in the confusion of whether to install above or over the flange. Your video explained everything perfectly and we can proceed with installing our shower pan and cement board in confidence.
@timothylauth52952 жыл бұрын
Very helpful!!! Thanks! Answered my questions perfectly (not the manufacturers laboratory or new construction “perfect world” explanations). Not an actor, just a real-world person offering practical recommendations for do it yourselfers and solutions for real world problems.
@SuperCryptical2 жыл бұрын
This was a great video. I learned volumes about finishing off the flange area and taping the seams properly. Another item which was covered, was the transition between cement board and gyproc for the wall area. So very helpful for us DIY squad. Thanks very much!
@SoThatsHowYouDoThat2 жыл бұрын
No problem!
@thomasgibbons353 Жыл бұрын
Hello Joe. Very good instructional. Spot on as the saying goes. I used Latacrete products exclusively since the late 70's. Setting every type of tile made on over every type of bedding board or mortar. Hydro-ban introduced a wide area of applications and problem solving waterproofing issues and we were very happy. My personal favorite products are 4237, 3701, and Hydro-ban. However, having used all of Latacretes products I recommend all of them.
@thomassinclair731 Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yours is the 8th or 9thbl video I watched for this information, and it's the one with the best, clearest, and most sensible answers regarding combining all the materials at that tub edge, which is totally trashed after many years. In this case, they had the board just above the flange, but it was sitting on some type of narrow stick that is so rotted that it is unidentifiable. That stick rested on the edge of the cast tub, with the tile extended over board and stick, down to the metal, with the joint then caulked. Been here 18 years. It's never been great, but only recently disintegrated. I will use your method for the repair.
@rattown99 Жыл бұрын
There is a lot of controversy about where to put the wallboard on the tub flange and the tile institute recommends placing the board over the flange and onto the rim of the tub but I have seen so many failures when this is done that I would have to disagree. This is a great video on giving yourself the best shot at not having a failure! Common sense and experience tells me that the silicone joint between the finished tile and the tub will not be properly maintained and will eventually fail causing water penetration behind the tile. This method will prevent the wallboard damage that I am continually repairing at the job site. Great job!
@RaadHerfi2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video man. First timer doing my own tile work in bathroom & this definitely helped a lot! Subscribed
@bentonz2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to explain this so well
@binaryglitch64 Жыл бұрын
I go an 1/8 of an inch above the highest part of the tub (called the lip)... this is because I've demoed a more than tub or two in my life (hundreds) and ALL boards including concrete fiber boards such as HardieBacker, or Redguard, or Kerdi Board, etc even with Aqua Defense and good caulking, still ALL boards put below the lip wick up moisture and begin to grow mold. I've seen it too many times to be convenienced otherwise. Always go at least on if not above the lip. You can fill the gap with mesh tape and thinset to support the bottom edge of the bottom tiles, then caulk it (after tiling).
@SuperSawtooth Жыл бұрын
Very helpful for this first time bathroom remodeler! Liked and subscribed. Thanks so much!
@chowsman12 жыл бұрын
Nice video. I've been doing renovations for 20 years and do all my own tiling. In my opinion compared to other products Laticrete products are awesome. I use Hydroban liquid all the time and it always requires two coats. Using Hydroban Board along with Latasil caulking. I've used Laticrete, Schulter, Wedi, cement board, denshield, etc.... And saying that my go to solution is Denshield with Hydroban Liquid with taped corners. Latasil for the caulking. I like the fact you mentioned raised corners with the Schulter product (pain in the ass). There are pros and cons to using these different substrates as they relate to flexibility and ease of carrying into the job site. The choice of products can also speed up your work as well. (i.e. board and start to tile the same day).
@philippeseguin81033 жыл бұрын
Great advice from a master. Always enjoy your content ,looking forward to more. Tks
@SoThatsHowYouDoThat3 жыл бұрын
More to come! and thank you!
@mitchellminnick2 жыл бұрын
Needed this video for a DIY shower with tub I’m working on. Thanks!
@overcomer42263 жыл бұрын
This was extremely informative. And I saw a whole shower install series you did a year ago. Keep going!! You have great content. This channel will blow up soon!!
@SoThatsHowYouDoThat3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man!
@overcomer42263 жыл бұрын
@@SoThatsHowYouDoThat Or girl as is the case!!
@theaveragesoldier1029 Жыл бұрын
This is exactly the advice I was needing. Great video
@jimmygrimes80293 жыл бұрын
Love your explanations and your videos, Joe!
@SoThatsHowYouDoThat3 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@tjthreadgood818 Жыл бұрын
Good discussion of cement board, and sealant options.
@brocmccroskey4292 жыл бұрын
Great Video - Extremely Helpful - Thank you!
@SoThatsHowYouDoThat2 жыл бұрын
YW!
@andygirke8463 жыл бұрын
Hey Joe, Great Content. Nicely done. One pro to another.🙏✌
@SoThatsHowYouDoThat3 жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks!
@fattysgarage1754 Жыл бұрын
I did mine exactly the same way but used red guard and the fiberglass mesh tape. It was many years ago and looking back I think it was the way to go.
@onecoolphilly Жыл бұрын
Great video!
@kalebbrown50172 жыл бұрын
Thank you thank you thank you. Been in the trades for a long time, but never messed with tile that much till now. I know floating the entire wall solves a lot of issues, but sometimes it’s not in the cards. Just installed the densshield on my first solo bathroom remodel and I freaked when I saw two corner areas where the lip protrudes past the densshield by just a tiny bit. But also that it’s 12x4 subway tile I was worrying about only adhering some of the tile to the wall on the first layer. Yea another layer of 1/4” cement board would help. But I rather float the wall than do that. I watched your other video on filling imperfections for plumb and while hesitation strikes on doing that. I see how it could work. I tried straightening studs, but on the wall with a custom niche that goes almost corner to corner I had issues. Planned the studs, then framed the niche. That wall backs against another wall so planning was the thing to do, or fur it out. I’m not good with the internet but I think I subscribed. I really like your videos. Many thanks!!!
@SoThatsHowYouDoThat2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kaleb!!
@Raiffi323 Жыл бұрын
Thanks man this is a Great video 💯 saved me a whole bunch of trouble
@SoThatsHowYouDoThat Жыл бұрын
Thank You!
@johnbalogna803 Жыл бұрын
Thanks were getting ready to do my sons bathroom remodel so this was timely and needed info. New subscriber here!!
@SoThatsHowYouDoThat Жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you!
@JamesDavis-dn3wo Жыл бұрын
I've seen other videos where they put on waterproofing after the thinset. I also saw one guy who put on flashing on the flange going up the wall studs about 6 inches or so behind the cement board.
@candychrist78893 жыл бұрын
I ha e learned so many great things from you tyvm and God bless.
@SoThatsHowYouDoThat3 жыл бұрын
You are so welcome
@dbow50773 жыл бұрын
Always great content. 👌
@SoThatsHowYouDoThat3 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated!
@jameskorotko1878 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@lauriebouchan26362 жыл бұрын
Fantastic Video!!!! How do I transition from 1/2" backerboard (cut to be above tub flange) and the top of the tub. The porcelain tub has the plumbing in and can't be moved. Can I put a piece of Kerdi board in the gap, then tape and Red Guard to moisture seal it? Thank you so much for your videos and the way you help the most armatures of armatures get through a project!
@cliffthompson41492 жыл бұрын
Brother I just put in a shower unit yesterday and I tried to explain to my boss that running it over the flange was wrong because it was bending the bottom of the Hardie board. He argued with me and told me that I was wrong even after I did all the research. I only needed common sense to tell me it was wrong. But he's just too bullheaded and I don't think I'm going to be working for him 4 long.
@JohnJones-sr1wo2 жыл бұрын
I installed a tile flange 4 inches high called flangeband. Seems to be a lot of different tile flange kits out there. I saw one called kerdi-ts too
@steffendetrick Жыл бұрын
I literally just used all of this stuff on a shower. Are used Schlueter brand, but the exact same principle. It is far as the flange or the lip on the tub. I actually trench the bottom back side of what you’re calling the Curti board and run it over the lip. It does become very thin and somewhat flimsy, but so is tape.
@frangiew90763 жыл бұрын
Thanks very informative
@SoThatsHowYouDoThat3 жыл бұрын
YW
@tiffanysinclair84232 жыл бұрын
Great video. I have a jetted tub I would like to install in an alcove situation with a shower. The tub does not have a flange, What would you suggest to use as a flange or some kind of waterproofing between the tub and tileboard?
@Wavelover332 жыл бұрын
What I don’t get is if any water gets through the tile it will run down the waterproofed backer board to the tub flange, but then it’s stuck as there is nowhere for it to go. The gap between the tub and the tile is siliconed which effectively blocks it.
@georgebell39642 жыл бұрын
Good job
@Rockettman Жыл бұрын
I've also seen it suggested to shim out the backer board by a few millimeters so that it sits in front of the tub rim. To do so, my idea was to use some very thin plywood as furring strips on the studs. Note that 1/2" nominal thickness Hardie Backer is actually 0.42 inches thick, so some minor furring will help it stay in the same plane as the 0.50" thick drywall that is typically butted up against it. To shim or to not to shim?? I'd appreciate any comments.
@jeffdeluca1153 Жыл бұрын
Great help video! Thank you! I see you ran your backer board to the floor in front of the tub. I'm butting up against wood lath and plaster. My 1/2" backer board will flush out with the plaster as I'm leaving the lath above the tub. Would I do the same you did here?? Do I tape and finish the joint between the old plaster and the new backerboard? Thank you for any help! Jeff
@timewithjo2482 жыл бұрын
You are awesome!!
@SoThatsHowYouDoThat2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@nickbernardo8766 Жыл бұрын
Joe I’m doing my tub area over I have installed amercast tub I left hardie backer up from tub lip . What can I put into the 3/4 in space from the bottom of hardie backer to fill in the gap , under the hardie backer is 1/2” water proof Sheetrock Can I put in mortar than put fiber glass tape on the gap . Thank you Your videos are very good
@raymondjackson6069 Жыл бұрын
Hello, I have a situation with an older house and I intend on redoing the tub surround. I have all the old tile down and intend on using Hardie Board as a backer. THe problem I have ran into is parts of the tub edge is so far from the stud, that the Hardie Board does not sit on it, and would actually slip behind it by about 1/8 to 1/4 inch. This would be the back wall. Then on the wet wall, the studs are actually against the tub edge, and when you put the Hardie board on it, it sits out proud the thickness of the Hardie Board. I know this can't be rare, but how do you handle this. Thanks and thanks for the video. I found it very instructive.
@seanbennett77732 жыл бұрын
An answer I haven't found anywhere so maybe you have some insight: if one were to have a 6" band of butyl window flashing (tape) adhered to the top of the flange (coming from beind the cement board), is the hydroban/hydrobarrier and/or thinset able to adhere to that bit of flashing?!
@chadr00 Жыл бұрын
is there any concern with the tub flexing and causing the thinset to break loose from the tub then cause squeaking as it flexes? I have an old steel tub for this one I'm working on so I suspect there is less chance for flex than with fiberglass tub. I see some guys recommend filling tub 1/2 or more with water to weigh it down first? I will follow your idea using the redgard I already have saved up for the shower job. The shower tiles came off the drywall after 30+ years and the drywall didn't show any moisture damage. With all the waterproofing that is recommend or required it seems like a bit of overkill in some cases. I did a shower a few months ago with Kerdi and that was a lot of work but it was a mud shower pan and my first shower. Now with these two I'm doing with tubs installed I'm tempted not to coat the whole cement board walls with redgard but I have it, so i will do it anyway. I am using glazed ceramic tiles. They are my own showers/tubs but if I were doing it for someone else I would make certain to follow 100% the right methods. I still plan to waterproof it fully but I'm convincing myself its overkill.
@4Christ73 жыл бұрын
Can you do a whole bathroom work please. Thank you. Your videos are helpful to us
@SoThatsHowYouDoThat3 жыл бұрын
Soon
@TWA7173 жыл бұрын
Hi Joe, Great Video as always and Love your channel! I have a question about what material to use on these ceiling of these Bath Shower combos. I have a shower tub combo in my home and I want to do a smooth level 5 type surface finish on the ceiling above instead of tiling it. I don't particularly care for tile on the bath ceiling so what should I use for the ceiling material whether it would be green board type drywall or something like GoBoard which is readily available to me locally and is more affordable than Kerdi - which is great but not readily available to me. I have never tired to do a plaster or skim coat type finish on anything like GoBoard, Kerdi, or even Hardiebacker which is what I am using for the tub shower surround. Thanks for any suggestions and reccos and keep up the great work. I am here almost daily anymore!
@SoThatsHowYouDoThat3 жыл бұрын
I would just greenboard since it is on the ceiling and you are not tiling it.
@PetelgeuseRomaneeContiyes11 ай бұрын
I had a plumbing emergency they ended up being a leaky cold water valve that was seeping through my ceiling from the upstairs bathtub.The plumber had to bust out tiles and left it that way but anyways when we cut out more tile so we could see the studs so we couldn put new backer board up we noticed that the last three inches of the horizontal tub lip that's closest to wall was missing. How do I go about putting the backer board up is there anything I can use to reinforce the area that the lip is missing?
@benjaminkowalski39782 жыл бұрын
Hey joe, can you tape and fill like you did here with an acrylic tub? I have to do the same process but I’m worried about deflection and squeaks
@SoThatsHowYouDoThat2 жыл бұрын
To avoid problems with the acrylic tub I like to use a paintabl waterproof membrane first, then fill with thinset. This will protect it from squeaking.
@ricklane95563 жыл бұрын
What should you do in regards to joint tape or cement board fiber tape at the ceiling where the cement board meets the ceiling drywall in a shower. Plus i plan to red guard the walls. My question is i just thinset the cement board side and drywall compound the ceiling side so it can be painted correct
@SoThatsHowYouDoThat3 жыл бұрын
Just end it at the ceiling. It is not necessary to have tape there because the corner will be covered with tile and then caulk.
@kurthawickhorst60293 жыл бұрын
Hey Joe, in the intro, you mentioned that the tub flange is a pain because it either sticks out too far or it's in way too deep. You never got around talking about the latter, when it's in way too deep, which is my situation. The ½ inch cement board is much thicker than the very thin flange. Do I tape over that and just pack in a lot of thin-set? Thanks for the video!
@Rynker2 жыл бұрын
You can notch out the bottom of the cement board so it can sit in front of the flange. An angle grider with a masonry disc will do it.
@bernierizkallah58562 жыл бұрын
The tape that overlapped the lip of the tub, what did you do with that? Did you cut that off with a knife, or did you just make it overlap less than the tile width?
@loganfuller9413 Жыл бұрын
How about running the cement board completely behind the tub , I’m prepping the bathroom now waiting for my new tub to be delivered
@adamswaz48782 жыл бұрын
Do you have finished photos of this tub and surround?
@jeffdeluca1153 Жыл бұрын
OK I see your running your Durarock past the tub, but that would be 21" or so not 30". The durarock is 30" wide. How did you get that to extend past, or did you cut 32" off the 60" length and waste the off cut? Im confused I guess by the direction of the writing on the board> Thx for any help
@raTchelmae Жыл бұрын
Do you have a video where you used the kerdi band on a tub like this (flange is under cement board & cement board sticks out over it)? I know you explained the theory around 6mins but if I could see it that would be great
@raTchelmae Жыл бұрын
Ah I see on the kerdi site how to do it but if you have a video I love watching your applications!!
@Heb1019223 жыл бұрын
Good tip on the tub flange. You can also put a think bead of silicone and press it in with a putty knife. Silicone works great for sealing and waterproofing areas like that. And I really like the way you finish the wall were the cement board meets the drywall. Good info.
@russellwilson5302 жыл бұрын
thanks for the video! Have you used GoBoard? I wondered if it would be a good product to use by a DIYer as a backer for tiling around a tub?
@SoThatsHowYouDoThat2 жыл бұрын
It is a good product, but I prefer Kerdi board or something similar. Why? because tile will not crack on kerdi board.
@russellwilson5302 жыл бұрын
oh, so that is an issue with GoBoard, would you recommend cement board over Kerdi
@billyholt37942 жыл бұрын
Are the box store products like Aqua Defense and Red guard essentially the same thing as hydro ban? Or is it worth the extra money to buy it? Like your videos, Thanks.
@SoThatsHowYouDoThat2 жыл бұрын
They are not as good. Hydroban is worth the money!
@russwilson21822 жыл бұрын
Would you recommend kerdi board for someone’s first tile job? I have heard it might flex and make it more difficult to tile or some issues with tiles sticking. Any thoughts?
@SoThatsHowYouDoThat2 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@russwilson21822 жыл бұрын
@@SoThatsHowYouDoThat thanks!
@boltup55663 жыл бұрын
Please do part 2 where you start the first row of tile. Do you put the first row of tile right on the tub's edge or do you put a small gap for caulk?
@SoThatsHowYouDoThat3 жыл бұрын
Soon
@jamesharrington3351 Жыл бұрын
Do you put concrete mix under your tub when you are setting it on the floor?
@SoThatsHowYouDoThat Жыл бұрын
Only if.it is a fiberglass tub. It is not necessary with a porcelain on steel.
@TheArrangment3 жыл бұрын
Will Redguard adhere to the joint compound on the bottom corner?
@SoThatsHowYouDoThat3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@TheArrangment3 жыл бұрын
@@SoThatsHowYouDoThat I applied joint compound on the corner joint between the cement board and drywall. should apply some Kilz primer on the joint compound before I apply the Redguard?
@vanessap8717 Жыл бұрын
Hey man, going to do my shower soon. What compound did you use to transition the cement board to the Sheetrock? I’ve seen ppl do it different ways and also read that you need to use the 90, 45 or 20 compounds when on the cement board. Is this better than an all purpose? Thanks for the video.
@bobcarrigan3372 Жыл бұрын
Hi Joe, so to be sure is it okay if I put on RedGard on the tub flange instead of hydroban? Thank you for your insight and expertise, your videos are great. ✝️
@mahanalutali2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I’m re-doing my bathroom now and I thought I fucked uppppp by not installing the cement board over the lip of the tub
@party52702 жыл бұрын
Do u recommend do the same thing to a shower pan
@SoThatsHowYouDoThat2 жыл бұрын
Yes, if it is a fiberglass pan.
@thomasnorthcastle4130 Жыл бұрын
You can always “wet” shim the wet wall.
@mrbojangles98412 жыл бұрын
I tried this. My tape wouldn't stick to the porcelain. I almost had a nervous breakdown because it was the last straw on the camels back.
@deeeeeeps Жыл бұрын
Says "if you live in the cold you should at least use Kerdi on the exterior wall" proceeds to show cement board and snow outside the window.
@joeyshumate6438 Жыл бұрын
" the thin set will stick to the hydro ban" well.....
@tmilholin7552 Жыл бұрын
Here is how you do it my friend, Put the tub in place, scribe a line on the studs around the tub. then notch out one quarter inch on every stud. then screw the tub in place, then set your backer board over the lip of the tub, will take you ten minutes and wala you are done. Not real complicated.
@dunnblue723 жыл бұрын
First
@justinmedlin238 Жыл бұрын
It would help if you didn’t say joint so much in this video
@metalhead12703 жыл бұрын
Love the advice but are you being paid to use these products
@SoThatsHowYouDoThat3 жыл бұрын
No. Now I use these products and I believe in them and if they wanted to pay me for that, then where is the money me man!