Exactly

they never do.

“It never even reached their desks” sounds about right for city workers. Most incompetent people that can’t be fired

That’s how everything is though :/

EXACTLY

Yep cuz they have to walk instead of possibly killing a child

So that came across your mind too? I bet he gets all of his junk mail, but not any of his necessary mail.

"starts"? you didn't see the earlier news report then...

That’s what happened to my mom after she started complaining. She would get the no one available to deliver note in her mail box about every two weeks with a request to pick up from the office with all of her packages and mail from the prior two weeks sitting in a box.

I highly disagree with your comments. It is against the law to withhold all mail from being delivered. I have full confidence that all the mail that is sent to the young man’s addresses will be delivered as promptly and safely as possible six days per week. Even certain packages will get delivered on Sundays by the part-time USPS employees.

well, it is government.

Slow down, rewind the video and stop it when it shows a view of the street. You will see there are SEVERAL non compliant mail boxes. The neighbor to this guys left has graveled the city easement street to sidewalk and placed his mailed inside the sidewalk. Our homeowner has his mail box in the easement area correctly between the paved street and the sidewalk. His neighbor to the right has their mail box installed inside the sidewalk, ON HIS PROPERTY not in the easement. And on tope of that on the corner! Risking the entire neighborhood. Had the carrier REFUSED delivery to the two non compliant mail boxes those property owners would be told how to correct the placement and become compliant before mail delivery could resume. This guy is sandwiched between bafoons. And the PMGenral forcing carriers to walk deliver to boxes (non compliant) on the street is not the fix. It will further delay everyone's delivery.

Notice nothing was said about the phone calls never being answered at the post office. Unless they have a better supervisor that PO will revert back or exact some measure of retribution.

My dad works for USPS and says that calling the post office will never do anything, the only way to solve a problem like this would be to go to the physical office and talk to the supervisor

@@Arikian I imagine in 5yrs he's been to the post office personally. Seems that PO's supervisor/manager needed their ass kicked.

Eh all those black ladies in that office. they are good at telling lies

Shut the post office down, privatize it. It's many billions of dollars in debt.

@@KingfishStevens-di9ji ehh, im ok with post office. just beause 1 branch is annoying doesnt mean u throw up ur arms. toss it all in way side.... you privatise it. cost of mail goes way up. that said, not sure how much we use the mail anwyays today. still i have to admit, its really from what i seen the ONLY department the gov not really messed up to bad. collect mail, send it. its not fastest but it does get done in timely manner. that said. city etc should stop being in control of any other contracts. roads, internet etc. you dig into that stuff, any city. there where ur money is going..... wasted money. projects over bid, back door money deals. u want to save money there a big chunk there just for local taxes. federal.......well u got all the 3 letter agencies trafficking drugs, children, women all over the world. starting wars, killing us citizens. trust me its a dangerous rabbit hole u start to go down u cant climb out of once u learn.

@@KingfishStevens-di9ji That is the WORST solution.

@@Theire1 The USPS would actually typically say his box is too far from the road, for the truck. Now I know why my walking carrier here in North Pontiac handed out slips to many of my neighbors stating their "mailbox needs attention", if any detail of their box wasn't up to the regulations. (Too far from road, or sidewalk, too low, too high, not secure enough on it's post/outside wall, flag is missing, or damaged, etc) There actually are detailed, and specific federal regulations, regarding many details of our mailboxes, and USPS can citation us, if we don't follow the regulations. Even though we have to supply our own boxes, they have to be set up according to the regulations, and be in good working order. Even if you had to buy your box, it's owned by the federal gov't once it begins receiving mail from the USPS. His box was actually not within regulation, as far as it's placement on the road. You can clearly see that in the video. He should have been given a "Your Mailbox Needs Attention" slip, years ago, so he knew to move his box close enough to the road, so that the carrier could reach it from the vehicle, in every season. The carriers on that route, all neglected to ask him to correct the fault, with a hand filled detailed notice, with the issue(s) needing correction. The YMNA form carriers use (PS Form 4056), is simply a list of possible faults, and the carrier simply places an X next to any existing faults, and leaves it in your box. The real problem is that none of the carriers had taken their training seriously, or were untrained, to perform a self-inspection of any box not meeting regulations, and duly notify the postal customer of their existing fault(s).....Unless he received, and ignored any issued 4056 forms, leaving his fault unresolved, and this was the carriers spiteful response. The home owner was at a regulations fault for Number 3 on the 4056 form.

typical government agency. we don't care because you dont matter.

USPS has been hugely overhauled through the last 3 decades. I fully believe that his complaints never made it up the chain of command. If they were to do a follow up in 6 months, I'm sure they'd find a new Post Master at the location his mail comes from. And for any other management positions that didn't do anything. The carrier will either be fired or put in a PO facility, a lesser paying job.

The government will find ways to screw you over any way they can unless there is public exposure.

That’s why we have the free press.

yea we need some auditors to go 1st amendment their post office and see how they do with that.

For five years? That's a long time to hold onto that hate.

Oh, you can bet that is the case. Now his mail will be delivered everywhere but his mailbox.

take your meds, luke

Too lazy to walk the route, to begin with.

​@@honkie247Now he's going to be back on the news for not getting mail. Lol.

Lawns have ALWAYS BEEN a symbol of entitlement.

@@iGame3D What? Please explain.

Lawns are stupid anyway 1 step away from being a desert

Entitlement is demanding to have your mail delivered to your house at all

@@iGame3D Quiet, child. The adults are talking.

or when the issue is escalated to higher people.

I bet the Biden Administration got wind of the story and called Dejoy to take care of the issue.

Of course they knew, they don't give a shit about that dude. They're only doing something now because they got caught and don't want all the other illegal shit that's going on to get investigated. I'd like to see their "lost or stolen" mail numbers look like. The usps, like every gov entity, is a joke and needs to be done away with, only business that turns a loss year after year after year and still stays open. We need a president to shut down all these bs agencies that do nothing but cost tax payers money.

USPS is the laziest and the sleaziest.

​@@KandiKloverIdk if I'd go that far given all of the scummy things I've seen FedEx do over the years. Half the time I don't even get a knock on my door these days, which is a problem when packages get stolen in my area relatively frequently.

Hear, see, say, no evil

@@KandiKlover No they're not. Stop repeating orange rapist man.

THe gOVerNMenT DoeSN't LiE!

Not always, there are some people who refuse to pass the information on up the line. I worked with a supervisor who would not relay information up the line letting management know of issues. I had sidestep them in the end to get results. This is what he’s effectively done in the end, the local office to him were NOT doing there job they did NOT want to place a walking postman on that rout because they were getting the mail out fast. Upper management don’t always know what is happening below them when those below them are hiding or misplacing complaints made due to the fact they don’t want to change how they are running their section. He knew someone at that office was not doing their job, but his hands were tied, the police could only deal with those local to them as well. Someone at the local branch was making sure it was getting lost and never passed up the line. Who ever that person was will have lost their job because of this.

@@MathewtHawkinsonno the government don’t lie, but people who work in government do lie. That’s the difference.

@@dawsie your last comment is far too complex for some folks to understand

yes im sure he talked to drivers and the post office but nothing happened, even police didn't help 😂😂😂😂

No more license for them.

I know when I used to do park and loop routes that tends to happen. I know this particular guy isn't one of them, but lot of especially old people don't put mailboxes out when they move into an older neighborhood like they are supposed to (anytime someone moves in an old neighborhood that didn't have street mailboxes, that house is no longer grandfathered in, and is required to get a street mailbox). It looks like he is in one of those neighborhoods and likely many have not done as they should, so the carrier just drives on the yard. Technically the others that don't have the correct box should just stop receiving mail.

@@Damitsallhis mailbox is a 5 second walk they can easily get out and put mail in they're just lazy because yea other people have their mailboxes the exact same way and they're still doing their job for them but they're just causing a fight for him. There's no reason they can't do their job to walk 5 feet to a mailbox. They're acting so childish for no reason.

Best to just get a community mailbox installed for a set number of homes in the neighbourhood to be served by the USPS.

@@Damitsallthey addressed that in the original story. Iirc, he had his mailbox at the street, but they said it was too busy to safely stop there. So he moved it in where they told him to, then they started driving on his property and the sidewalk to get to it. This video says this is supposed to be a walking route. Put the blame where it belongs - on the lazy carrier who wanted to turn a walking route into a driving route and on the postmasters who absolutely knew about the police reports and are lying through their teeth. That no one has been fired for this endangerment, destruction of property, and frankly harassment (given the number of times he’s reported this and the extent to which they’ve gone to keep driving on his property) shows that they’re not at all serious about this. At least it’s fixed for him for now.

@baileysellers7877 I'm guessing you don't really realize how USPS works or the implications of that. Most routes (at least where I live) have 100s if not 1000s of residents per route. Even if it was only a "5 extra seconds" that would add up to you not getting your mail (if the carrier doesn't want to do overtime). Due to mail security and the fact that the LLVs don't have power locks, it ends up taking more like an extra minute per house. It's not about laziness it's about speed, the carriers are usually over burdened as it is.

They did enough patting themselves on the back throughout this entire video.

Truth. If this wasn't televised they wouldn't have done anything.

Why didn’t they just put the mailbox at the curb? The neighbor’s are. People would rather complain than use common sense. Change it from a walking route to a driving route. It’s too hard and takes much longer to walk the neighborhood.

@@sueteranthe road is narrow and a mail truck obstructing the road would create accidents. The lazy government workers can get out and walk. That’s the job they signed up for and are compensated to do.

@@sueteranInstead, the neighborhood has just been converted to a walking route. Which means that every single homeowner in the neighborhood has to purchase and properly install a brand spanking new $150-$300 Post Office approved wall mounted mailbox. If they don’t, they will be subject to fines and being forced to pick up their mail at the Post Office.

It’s federal employment! They won’t be punished. If you think THAT’S bad…..go to work for the VA!

@@Bsn2004 Whoa...You mean FedEx is in on it too? _Unreal._

Bad managers just get moved to others offices, they are never fired. Well unless they themselves kill someone.

Never going to happen. Union

Good luck with the NALC union 😂

Really? Everyone? I wonder with people like you, how many bad things you’ve done and what judgement you should face…

100% but of course they are Union, never going to happen.

That union has been an affiliate of the Teamsters for quite some time now. Good luck!

Government could kill a child speeding on the side walks or private property grass ….. no one cares 😮😮😮😮

USPS is not government.

@@perrysanders9998but it is…it’s part of the executive branch.

@@perrysanders9998 The United States Postal Service (USPS), also known as the Post Office, U.S. Mail, or Postal Service, is an independent agency of the executive branch of the United States federal government responsible for providing postal service in the United States, its insular areas, and its associated states.

​@@perrysanders9998get a clue pal

Nah, the employees enjoyed not having to get out of their vehicles to deliver the mail and felt they were exempt from the laws stating they couldn't drive on sidewalks so of course they weren't pushing the complaints further up the chain to their district offices.

@@chorlesteajones6794Doubtful. I’m sure multiple carriers told the postmaster, and the postmaster declined to do anything about it. Carriers are only allowed to dismount if authorized, and the post master is the one to authorize it. The postmaster is 100% to blame here. Not the carrier that just didn’t want to get fired for dismounting without authorization.

The local postmaster was the problem... the Deputy General doesn't work at the post office level, and I'm sure probably was never told about it.

The problem is I'm sure its an old park and loop route, but those are going away. Technically the only people who are allowed to still have mail delivered by foot are those who have been grandfathered in and have lived there for around 50 years now. The problem is some Postmasters don't do a good job of forcing old neighborhoods into putting street mail boxes in or CBUs.

How do you know that?

He should have mailed his complaint to the inspector general

I'm wondering why, after a year at the most, he didn't send his complaint to the Inspector General registered, signature required? It would've proved their lack of response & the peons wouldn't have gotten blamed for sweeping it under the rug.

No, it is now a walking route. Even in the clip they say it helped others in the neighborhood

It's called DEI. When the minorities complain that they aren't getting enough jobs so they start getting jobs they had no qualifications for and do the job poorly this is what happpens. It's not a meritocracy it's a who gets the diversity hires.

@rooh5825 Maybe he was contacting the wrong dept? Of course the employees aren't going to do anything, they'd get in trouble. It is all about contacting the correct person, department, or even a separate company over them. I have had personal experience with something like this. In my case, all the calls, voice mails and emails were ignored until I contacted my * State Senator (Ron Wynden, Oregon)* regarding the issue (It was the HAMP mortgage modification program) who replied within days and said they wanted to handle my case. Because my case was regarding Wells Fargo Bank they contacted The Office of the Comptroller of the Currency. Within days I got phone calls and emails and a letter of apology from Wells Fargo, and most of all, immediate help to get the HAMP mortgage approved for me. Ya gotta contact the correct people.

😮😮Public officials can be nice. They are just people. Good or evil.

Thanks for the story. I've known a lot of really friendly and helpful letter carriers myself.

Great but does not apply to this.. for 5 yrs!!! If not video, media public .. this mail carrier would continue.. and this guy would not get justice!!

Did my taxpayments buy you a mailbox? WTF!

@@kevincinnamontoast3669, technically, no. But you do pay for it with the price of stamps. There's probably a rule somewhere that says the postal service has to provide mailboxes in cases of hardship.

You haven't studied De Joy enough. He loves that he has no accountability to Congress and has told them more than once, 'get used to me because I'm not going anywhere'. They have tried to fire him and can't. He wants the USPS to fail because he was brought in to make it fail. It's why he removed sorting machines to slow the service down. His mission has always been to make USPS privatized - so answering questions about this would be a walk in the park for him.

@@jetsamperes5762 I won't claim to be a De Joy expert, but my read is that he believes major changes are required. He has support from roughly half of Congress depending upon how extensive he attempts to change USPS and the other half is generally opposed to him, but may accept some small changes. But I still don't think he'd want to have to answer "why are postal employees driving on the sidewalk"? There isn't any real way for him to win in that situation.

​@@kcgunesq DeJoy was installed by Trump to destroy the Postal System. He's doing a great job of that. Dems haven't gotten rid of him, which means they're also paid off by Fed Ex, UPS (which DeJoy is affiliated with) They want to privatize it all.

International. I'm from the UK.

Oh those guys weren't local, those are regional so they're not only in charge of that city but several other cities possibly counties.

My 3 yr old is still so mad he yells at every mail truck he sees

Headed by tRump selected Louis DeJoy… the guy who removed mailboxes to deter mail-in balloting, in fact to deter voting, in select (urban/Dem) districts. IOW 💯

A child would probably have sense enough to ask why his mailbox is on the wrong side of the sidewalk.

​@@TimothyFishif you listen closely they said it was supposed to be a walking route.

@@zodarian6705, the statement from the postal service doesn't say that is a walking route and the postal service is the only organization that can provide an authoritative answer to the question of whether it is a walking route or not. I can say from looking at the type of mailboxes and the fact that those mailboxes aren't blocked by parked cars that it doesn't look like a route that they would classify as a walking route.

That’s giving the lazy feds way too much credit and ingenuity. They just put it straight into the circular file cabinet.

Yep. File 13.

When a complaint is a non issue it gets ignored.

We had a schizophrenic sovereign citizen guy delivering complaints covered in poison that sent a bunch of people to the hospital once.

Government will NOT fire him. No matter how incompetent and bad he is at his job

@@aaronlandry3934 Which only attracts more incompetents. 😕

Most routes that were delivered this way was supposed to be walked? Then the up charge in fuel/mileage shoulda clued them. But have you seen the carriers lately? There’s a large percentage of them that are lazy and hid this. Hid it for a while too to have others in management in on the lost reports. But it’s all gonna burn down now!!

very true, and I say this as a federal employee

It usually happens anyways!!

Yeah, delivered to a creek.

the dumpster

and these two are now dating. It’s really a win win!

@@FlyingCircusActno way!?

Omg. That reminds me of a episode of hoarders I watched where a lady actually thought sunlight disinfected her rat pissed junk. 😂😂😂

@@weskelly4538 Well, I guess to some degree UV light does kill many pathogens on the surface of things, but still.. yeah.

@@matej.m.rejsek8537 no it doesn’t. They had some professional whatever come in and test the things. Not one germ came off from the time before she put it out in the sun til after.

Never heard of that saying but, if you do not mind, I WILL BE USING IT!!

👍🏽 I too have an Uncle who Retired from the post office in a small Rural town. He’s a Great man and was a Respectful and Kind mail carrier. And what you mentioned is Truer than True, that there’s **No Accountability** at USPS because employees Know it’s darn near impossible to be terminated.

That was why I couldn’t stand it. It was like working with DMV employees every day.

Yh. Now the USPS either does stuff to get you to resign or they make up lies and excuses to get rid of you if they don't like you PS Ik cause an ex USPS employee, I seen first hand how they operate

It's gotten much worse. I started as a carrier in 1998 and the past 10 years or so have really gone downhill quickly. When they hire people I don't think they even interview them anymore. They just check for a pulse. We went through 17 new hires in an 18 route office in 6 months before we got one that stuck around. We have quite a few newer employees that never would have made it through the 90 day probationary period when I started, but are kept now because "it's a body" and now they're full time and we're stuck with them. I'm beyond tired of apologizing for these coworkers and I'm just waiting till I can retire and get the hell out of there.

Usps needs to get shut down... theres 3rd party companies that do a vastly better job than usps and it doesn't cost tax payers a dime to keep them in business/paying 9ut pensions for shitty gov employees.

And in the pristine city of Detroit? If you don’t like their driving, then stay off the sidewalk. It just became real.

😀😀😀😀😀

I wanted to laugh at this..

It was probably meant to be a walking route to begin with, since similar complaints.

@@ChakatNightspark I really don't give a dam they can hate me all they want stay off my lawn. Simple I d9nt care if they drive or walk personally. Just stay the f off my lawn. Simple . Why? cause it's mine.

Sometimes it is faster to drive off a split, so the split is set up that way. The post office doesn't pay us to take extra time on our routes. I have a number of mounted splits on my route that would take twice as long if I walked them.

Welp, when you hire obese lazy pos's....

@@bennyhunt256 yeah well my mailbox is right up on the road so it’s not even possible for them to do this. I don’t have my mailbox way back like a jackass.

Oh I definitely am

There kinda already is a course that covers "Don't drive on sidewalks." It's called driver's education.

@@bennyhunt256Five years of covering up their insane dangerous sidewalk driving needs to result in serious consequences. You can’t destroy a man’s property and endanger the public welfare (while breaking the law) for five years and then just say after being busted in the national media, “Oops! We’ll stop now. My bad.” Benny - you find a great lawyer and make sure the consequences are enough to stop this nonsense from continuing elsewhere 👍🏼

Union.

Welcome to the union...

How is this injustice? In many cities, the sidewalk to the street is public property. Aside from the safety risks of driving on a sidewalk, it does this man no damage if they drive on public property to get to a mailbox that he put in the wrong place.

These two are now dating, what a happy ending!

@@FlyingCircusAct, I find that unlikely. For one, she appears to be married. For another, no woman is going to date a man that she wrote into a story as a person who is weak and in need of her to come be his hero and save the day.

@@TimothyFish It's true.

@@TimothyFish Did you see the previous story? His mailbox was in the same place as everyone else's but ONLY his side walk + lawn was getting driven on. It damaged his sprinklers and whatever else he'd put on his lawn. So he moved it further down to make it easier for them and to avoid damage and they still kept doing the same thing. How is this not justice?

OK Karen. They are not getting out of the truck to deliver to a mailbox that's blocked by a car or snow. It's ridiculous that you would expect that. I am sure they misdelivered your mail on purpose 😂

The algorithm is a mind control menace

I agree.

"...really frustrating" 🤣🤣🤣

put the phone down

Why? F this guy.

They won't. They'll get moved to other post offices and other positions where they can be lazy and incompetent at other things.

Sounds like the the entire post office should be replaced

Good luck. Federal employees are the laziest because they never get fired for anything.

And the Postmaster General has a conflict of interest with his own shipping business

I worked there it's rotten from the top down

The Post Office is a corporation but not a government agency.

They knew

another government money pit. a lot of their employee's could'nt keep a job in the real world.

Why didn’t this whiner just put his box at the curb, where it belongs? He put it 10 feet into his lawn and complained.

This was an old walking route mailboxes were moved from houses down to sidewalk some carrier decided to just drive it

The mail carrier caused damage to some items that he had on his property.

I don’t understand if this is a park and loop (walking) route why anyone would have a box on their front lawn. That would generally be mounted type delivery. Every walking route I carried , the customers had their mailboxes attached somewhere on their home.

​@@vinceb755 when I purchased my recent home it's mailbox was on the side of a porch door, I put in a change of address but my mail never showed for weeks, I went to the Post office they told me I had to move the mailbox either behind my house on a different street than it's legal address or across the street in a 6" strip of grass between the curb and sidewalk? The second one would make it extremely dangerous to check the mail because we live on a US business route I can see the massive post office building from my house. They said the previous homeowner was grandfathered in , and new owners had to move their mailbox"For Carrier Safety?" They can't use steps because it's dangerous???? I got them to deliver to my front door only because my wife is blind and making her cross the street I would open a huge lawsuit if she got hit by a car! My Towns PO requires RD Boxes even though it's a Walking Route because they don't want them getting out of the mail truck unless they have a package? The town is small 5000 people. Crime is not an issue as of today only one murder in the last 20 years. . They have no valid excuse for these possible illegal rules , the Post Master General does nothing but defend the carriers "Safety '?

good point

@@vinceb755was probably a driving route but got switched to walking because it’s the government so whatever cost cutting bs they did probably had drivers start walking and they weren’t happy about that so they answered by driving over peoples lawns lol

@@AHomelessDorito , the post office isn’t allowed to change delivery type once it has been established. Furthermore, they would never switch from mounted (driving) delivery to walking because walking is the least efficient form of delivery. This is why all new homes built are now required to have a central box located in the development. That is the cheapest form of delivery.

Yeah why isn’t his mailbox in the right place? Can we talk a out that for a minute lol

Exactly. His own fault, but he whined for 5 years.

I can believe it. He probably called the post office, they told him he would need to move his mailbox and he didn't do, but they assumed it was taken care of. Five years later, it shows up on the news and at that point management hears about it and actually sends someone out there to tell him where to move his mailbox to.

You clearly have no clue how physically demanding our job is especially in the summer. You wouldn't last a fucking week

I don't think not delivering dude's mail is going to make anyone healthier.

😂

So you think they’re going to hire additional mail carriers to walk that route It would be more likely that they got a single box on each street corner and then they had to walk to get their mail

@@neilkurzman4907 I thought the video said the his street was supposed to be a walking route.

He mounted it on the roadside. Watch original video. Post office refused delivery.

As stated in the video, had you watched it, you would've heard that this is a 'walking route', which is why the mailboxes were placed on the sidewalk, and not the street.

In the first news clip he moved the mailbox closer to the street and then they said it was a hazard for them to stop. So they didn’t deliver his mail they just passed by and went to the next house.

If it's an older neighborhood, it's grandfather in as a walking route.

Houses across the street, the mailboxes are at the front door. This street is walking/park& loop delivery.

Busy road, no street parking looks like

Let us know if some of your mail mysteriously goes missing Good job, bud.

Yeah, he could've done what normal people do and just moved his mailbox to a location where it was easy to get to.

lol no doubt.... Also the post masters knew about his issue and just didn't care until it got news coverage...

Yeah, it probably amounts to an e-mail that was sent out along the lines of "Good news! We finally got the guy to move his mailbox."

Probably not the person who was/is the real problem.

The USPS is so understaffed and overworked. 0% chance they got fired

I highly doubt that

@@Kojin-117 After working there 35 years (30 as a carrier and 5 as a clerk) I 100% agree.