Man, she is awesome. Such a passionate educator. Thanks for having her on the show.

One of the best interviews yet. Love the dragon lady.

Her voice is needed in America…thank you! I am 76 years old, former teacher, and she is speaking truth.

Her attitude is so refreshing. Love it.

As a father, this interview is very inspiring. Thank you.

Wow! Brave, bold, inspiring and visionary. We need more Katherine Birbalsinghs! One of Dave's best interviews.

Congratulations for your first GCSE results coming in at 4x the national average!!

Rubin where do you find these people.. way to go man.. Iove this lady

This interview is an instant-classic. She is AWESOME!

Mrs. Birbalsingh is both brilliant and down to earth. Watching this video was time well spent. Thanks for having her on.

I LOVE this lady. Being from the UK it's so refreshing to hear this kind of discussion. Socialist ideas have ruined our once brilliant education system. 'Grammar Schools', which are paid for by the government but are for kids from any background on the basis of their intelligence, are now banned (or at least any new Grammar schools being opened are not allowed.) Insanity. They are the best route to social mobility of any system. Equality of outcome became more important from the 60s. Dreadful shame. We love you Katharine, keep doing what you're doing.

"We give kids excuses to fail." Someone get this woman a beer.

I've now viewed this whole interview, having previously seen only the first half. Inspirational stuff from a very capable lady. More power to Miss Snuffy!

In a truly progressive society Kathy would be Minister of Education in the UK. Education would be transformed within a generation and for the better.

What is so odd about this broadcast is that it's simply common sense, there isn't any super transformational philosophy here. This isnt meant to be a criticism though it is meant to be an indictment on those that push such foolishness which results in our kids being completely ignorant. The educational initiatives of today are horrendous; these school alternatives are critical but you've got to understand that otherwise you are in a very dire predicament.

Beautiful, smart, passionate, woman. Great episode!

This is one of my favorite interviews, I don't have much of a platform but I'm a conservative who has been talking about education for a long time. Thank you for shining a spotlight on this issue.

We need to give this woman and that kind of initiative more voices.

I enjoyed watching this a few days ago.... then low and behold I had the pleasure of bumping into her on the Tube. I let her know how much support she has, it's important that pioneers know this. Her experience of schools (and for me generally the public sector) is consistent with mine.

I work in education and everything she is saying is true. Love her. If I have any criticism it is that it is worse than she is saying because it is bad for other reasons too that are not mentioned here.

@Katharine Birbalsingh The reason no one talks about education is because it is your lane. You are the expert on this part of the problem and you are doing an amazing job bringing it to light.

This woman is incredible! We need more Teachers like her...

we need 10 clones of this wonderful woman in every school in the world. Evolutionary leap in one generation.

I love that they teach children to.behave....this is needed...more...to infinity.

Absolutely amazing . Just listening to her made me feel like a little kid in school .

When I went to school, I learned history chronologically. First we did Egypt, Greece, Ancient Britons, Rome, Middle Ages etc etc and so on. When my son did history, he was being taught about women in the Renaissance vs black people in USA; what people ate in Asia a hundred years ago vs junk food diets on the west. How can you even begin to have these types of comparisons and discussions until you have at least learned the basics and sequence of events??? My son self-taught history and reads historical fiction, he knew more about the impacts of the Napoleonic Wars on 20th Century Europe than his teacher; who was a young woman so incurious about history she often publicly remonstrated with her class about how boring teaching history was. When talking about Genghis Khan with my son (who at the time was infatuated with him) she didn't have any idea of where he came from. She thought Ghenghis Khan was a Turk from the 1600s

What an absolutely GREAT talk. So inspiring. Thank you Katherine and Dave (who was really moved at the end:-)).

Great interview, Dave. Katharine is right on the mark. Close to the end of this sit down you were discussing if people were "getting this". And I agree with you that people are starting to figure out what is going on, but Katharine's point is that there need to be considerable more urgency with the education issue are we are playing with the future of so many children. Frankly, what happen to education is on par with non consensual, experimental drug testing.

One of your best interviews in a while. She's excellent!

Absolutely brilliant thinker. Thank you for your great work Katharine!

What an absolutely delightful, wonderful woman! I loved this interview and her many insights and the sharing of her experiences.

WOW! This has to be my new fav from Dave. Thanks Dave, great podcast

Fabulous woman! What an effort she's making. Truly admirable!

Amazing, brilliant person. Grateful for her bravery, perseverance, commitment to children, and their actual education and future.

Thank you, Dave! This wonderful lady is just telling the truth. We need more of this!

Wow! As someone who helped found a charter school that does education differently, I LOVE this woman!

What a remarkable person. Mainly the conviction and bravery.

Holy crap, this woman is magnificent. One of your best interviews ever, Dave.

One of my favorite interviews, such a great discussion.

Enjoyed this interview very much. What a dynamic, interesting person she is. Inspirational people come in so many shapes and sizes.

LOVED this interview. Thank you Dave and Katharine.

This is what passion looks like. Great interview.

Great interview! I've been waiting to hear this ❤️

Thank you for quoting the “If” poem, by Rudyard Kipling. Just looked it up and it’s so good.

I love this lady so much! Well done on a brilliant interview.

31:30 This is how I've come to view education, especially for younger children and teenagers. I've never been able to put it together as succinctly as Birbalsingh put it, though. Great interview!

Fantastic interview. She is a great role model for anybody going into teaching and kudos to her for having the courage to stand up to the "left". If education is important to you, a great documentary to watch about the biggest problem, in my opinion, with schools here in America is "The Cartel: Education + Politics = $". It was an eye opener for me when I saw it almost 10 yrs ago and it still describes it. It uses the school system in New Jersey as the perfect example of what is wrong with the system all over America. It would be great if Dave did an interview with the guy that filmed it.

Please set up a school here in Brisbane, Australia. We so desperately need you!

So glad your show exists man - TYT members can say what they like about you - you're doing big things, and this show - the people who come on, and the conversations you all have - inspire many people; including myself.

Excellent, thanks Dave/Katharine!

She is great. I plan to share this with my friends on FB.

Her school system should be adopted by EVERY school

Right at 24:00 Ms. Birbalsingh hits it right on the nail--it's all about how these pseudo good-doers feel. I can't imagine a more narcissistic view than to pat yourself on the back, doing things that only make you feel good, at the expense of another human being's well-being. I applaud her and all those who stood up to do the right thing for their youth. Kudos!

My favorite so far, what a powerful voice of reason

Such an awesome guest. Loved her thinking. Amazing!

Thoroughly enjoyed meeting her in the Rubin interview. How refreshing!

Oh this lady is a Sweet Perfume to my ears!!!! As someone who grew up in the lowly parts of one of the toughest cities inUK, ie; (Glasgow) during 50’s I attended 1 primary school but later several secondary schools as my parents found jobs. On every occasion I was put into a bottom level/dysfunction classroom until a proper academic “assessment” was made of my grades. Consequently my self esteem plummeted and I isolated to never return and finish school. It haunts me even today! Even so, I clung to my primary teachers who encouraged me greatly during my formative primary years AND encouraged me to reading and writing. I went on to study & become a Counselor and Advocate for children and women. The encouragement I received in primary ( history, English and reading RE) gave me enough impetus to never give up. my secondary schooling failed me because of a ‘systems approach’ to education. She hit it out of the park! Every precious child carries within, an ability to benefit and improve themselves and create a more confident and knowledgeable society.

"It's Ok for a person of Indian, African or whatever other ancestry, to vote conservative."

One of my favorite Rubin interviews!

Amazing interview. Amazingly Brilliant Lady. Well done Dave.

WOW! What a great interview! This woman is a hero!

Awesome interview !!! She’s great!!

Dave, I love this talk.

Like some of the other comments here, the ideas discussed in this interview aren't groundbreaking in any sense, but it's the conviction in which it's expressed is inspiring. What's really impressive, though, is her execution. This interview was awesome.

Without a doubt one of my top 3 favorite Rubin interviews

Didn't know who she was, but man ... that was really interesting.

Great show! My friends and I were all talking about Rubin over beers last night.

Spectacular ending to a heartfelt conversation.

2019 GSSE results: Compared with other non-selective state schools, Michaela’s results rank among the best in the country. More than half (54%) of all grades were level 7 or above (equivalent to the old-style A and A*), which was more than twice the national average of 22%. Nearly one in five (18%) of all grades were 9s, compared with 4.5% nationally, and in maths, one in four results were level 9.

I wish every educator was as smart and passionate as this lady. She's nailing it.

really interesting interview!! I enjoyed it

what an awesome interview to a smart lady bravo Rubin!

Amazing lady. More strength to you! My late mom was also called the Dragon Lady. She was a perfectionist, but was highly revered as a teacher and headmistress. To me as her untamable, uneducatable daughter, she was scary, formidable and a desciplinarian. I think in her latter years she understood me. No one could teach me anything, I had to learn the hard way on my own. Weirdly I was always told that I was above average. I have an inherent ahborrance of some of my 'intellectual' counterparts who got ahead in life 'in the eyes of the world', but who at times, seem so ignorant to me.

This is so great! Thanks

Fantastic Teacher!!!!!

Great conversation. As a foreigner living/working in London, after talking with lots of primary school teachers around I absolutely agreed with her on this. The funny thing is that even leftist teachers admit all these ... all these on a certain way that these are happening.

I wish there were more views on this video. This woman is an inspiration.

Great to have her on the show. I have a deep respect her thinking.

Oh man, you don't teach details before context or big picture. Learn from Singapore, start with the context, present a problem, let them try solve it, introduce the theory which reveals the correct solution. That's how you teach problem solving. That's all the criticism I have for her. She's a hero, like all reasonable teachers.

Some great perspectives here.

Wow..great interview (so far)...her comment at 34:17 to 35:40 is so bang on. I teach post secondary and I see most students have no long term memory to draw on so get completely lost with the simplest new way of putting the basic math skills to work. I'm going to send this interview out to teaching staff here.

Brilliant. If only more teachers were like her.

Brilliant. Thank you. Keep going.

What an enthusiastic and inspirational person 😊

this lad y is an expert teacher .. so correct structure

Love this woman, she is truly remarkable

Fantastic guest. Rubin, it would be really interesting to see you do more on our educational system and this was a great start along with the work you've done with the Weintein's. It would be interesting to do see a panel of educational maverik's like the group of people behind the Los Angelas charter schools in the documentary "Waiting for Superman", along with some of the parents and students that have gone through those systems. If state schooling can't be fixed from within, external and alternative private school options could use a lot more coverage on how they're performing and what can be done to promote the best education we can provide to kids outside of the state system. You could do a whole series, from how to pick the right private/charter institution, what they stand for, etc. finding the right college fit and how to put your life on track. It would benefit parent's and kids and be insightful like this interview was. Over this last weekend I was pumping gas and talking on a cell phone a few feet from my vehicle. A large guy drove up and accosted me threatening that I was going to blow everyone up. I pay him no mind and was heading inside to the station to purchase an item when he hops out of his car and runs after me aggressively to further berate me attempting to pick a fight and calling names after me. Lovely person he. I know enough that any verbal dialogue would provoke a fight from this type of deranged individual who was hot under the collar so I backed away and passively and didn't respond in kind. The point being porr education can breed bad ideas and bad ideas can lead to dangerous outcomes both physically and economically in a country. Something as simple as people picking fights with strangers over a myth they've bought into is dangerous and unproductive just as a great many other broader issues all of our countries face from the rise of socialism to the anti-life movement as Alex Epstein calls them.

Wow - so awesome! I wish she could come to Wake County, North Carolina and speak to our Board of Education.

I love this crusader ! Smart and driven !! and happy !

Great interview!

I think this is my favorite interview...

Damn, this was a powerful interview.

More! She is incredible.

First time I listened to every word a teacher uttered.

Wonderful interview.

The left is notorious for racism thru low expectations. This was one of the best interviews yet!!

What a powerful interview

wow such a inspirational stuff :) i have been seen 2 times but still not enough for me i would like to say thanks to this lady n to the guy who have ask very well question :)

I think I've heard of this woman's school actually. In Year 11, I had to take extra English because I couldn't write my own language apparently (but I digress) My Extra-English Teacher, genuinely lovely guy, class was messing around this one time, and he was getting mildly annoyed. eventually, the says to us: "you should think yourselves lucky, there is a certain school in London where if you acted like this, you'd be in deep shit (these aren't his exact words) and if you wanted to get your parents in to gob off at the teachers, you'd get kicked out immediately" I remember that that shut us all up pretty quick. One of the lasses who was in that lesson, I was sat with the lesson after, which was religious studies she says to me "would you wanna go to that school that sir were on about in that class?" I said "I'd fuckin' love it dude" and she gave me the most confused look I've ever seen.

You should talk to Adam Carolla about this stuff too. He's so awesome and I saw him once, but didn't get to talk to him.