yes but most brits havent grasped that simple fact yet.

Still living in the warm afterglow.

@@iaindunbar1578 as French, I can fairly affirm this feeling is shared on the other side of the channel.

@George Washington And George Washington is indigenous to north America.

Tom, it finally finished when British left the Indian subcontinent.!

You think so.... Boris rolls out a successful vaccine program compared to labour's last government who took us on a journey through illegal wars.

Involves critical thinking and its not a three word slogan.

Well, at least we made Russia happy by leaving...

Isn't he just... I could listen to him for hours (and have done so) and learned a lot at the same time. Thank you to Prof Dorling for making available these wonderful, informative lectures.

As a German I think @ 50:30 is were the rubber hits the road. We're around 45%, you're somewhere at 36% of GDP. That difference is pocketed by the rich, that's what they used to pay for keeping the guillotines at bay. Thatcher and Reagan thought the rich paid to much for their safety. i.imgur.com/MQUSuzc.gif

German Healthcare System (Krankenkasse) was founded 1883 it's 65 years before NHS

Pretty spot on assessment I think.

I think you should cut back on the medication. Or perhaps, study history?

If you want to see a microcosm of Balkanisation, just look at any town who carry on with the flawed "Doctrine" of multiculturalism- ghettoisation is a more apt description of this failed experiment.

@@stephenmcdonagh2795 Guess who wanted the Eastern European countries to become full member of the EU with freedom of movement? The Tories!

@@TorianTammas And you don't believe the Labour Party had a childish, "Hands across the world" philosophy? Besides, the Tories got Britain out of that corrupt cabal of failed politicians and popinjays, a system based on a misreading of history and how wars happen.

@@stephenmcdonagh2795 We have 2020, the Tories are 10 years in power. The Tories lead to a decline, an increase in debts. The UK has more debts then GDP. The Tories are a real disaster and they are 5 more years here to make it worse.

@@TorianTammas Sounds like Boris derangement syndrome to me. Blame the EU drones of the Labour Party for their "We know what's best for the little people- let's just ignore their votes" stuck up attitude. Yeh Corbinistas have a blind spot for his stupidity- and it's always the cozy metro-bots who live in a Richard Curtis wet dream that screw everyone over due to their own inflated sense of entitlement.

Absolutely born out by events.

So the one per cent has 52% of the votes.😆

Possibly but it was voted by 51% of the voters. So they must take responsibility for the decision. Fortunately, it is exactely what is happening.

@@danielepavone3131 Frankly this is bs. "51% of those who voted", in fact, and very much less than 5O% of those eligible to register to vote. Around 30% I believe. And zero coherent political opposition, and a barage of illegal electronic canvassing. If people are subjected to years of disinformation and manipulation, they may be theoretically responsible but blaming them is futile, a political dead end.

@@kmadge9820 if i sell shit calling it chocolate spread and people flock to buy it, and say it tastes gteat, i might be a liar but they are as dumb as it gets. But what is more, is that they still believe it after you have shown them the cows producing it. According to your way of thinking we should restrict our criticism to the very elite of the nazi regime and not to the army or its followers, since they had been affected by years of propaganda. Yet you in Britain keeo blaming "the germans" for all the atrocities committed by the nazi in ww2. It is either one or the other, you to choose.

Of course it won't. The people at the top want to keep you in your place.

Sorry you won't leave behind ........It is in your blood and bloodshed & looting you did !!!

Now I get where all the insecurity and the dire need to compensate comes from. Thanks!

Some very interesting graphs and observations. However, I don’t think that the professor proves his point. I know many leave voters and the majority claim that their vote was based upon the undemocratic nature of the EU constitution, it being run by unelected bureaucrats. Being dominated by Germany and yet the UK being the 2nd biggest contributor, The move towards a federal state when people believed that when we voted in the 1970s we were sold a free trade area. All of those are substantial reasons and nothing to do with the empire. I accept that I know only a relatively small number of leavers, but their views are consistent and rational. When challenged on the economic effects leave voters accept that there will be hard times, however, that is a price they are willing to pay and so far no recession. 55:31 55:31

Spot on... I wish most in England understood that the world sees them that way...

You must have had a bad education and a misguided upbringing to have this ideology of people who have different opinions to yourself.

I think you're a little hard on exceptionalist Brexiteers and their idealogy and parents. But yes the poor education, particularly around world history outside Britain does contribute significantly to this distorted world view.

Superiority is hard-wired into national identity for too many English people.

Krp Krp Tally Really? It’s glaringly obvious to anyone with any critical distance, particularly those who come here from somewhere else.

imagine what your grandfather feels.

@@galleon1968 surely everything pales in comparison to leaving the EU, a hard fought Euopean peace. I went to a french school for a couple of years, during that time we taught about the importance of the EU as a structure to unite European countries, a safe guard from extremism. We toured an EU building. What are the English taught? How the Empire was great?

So they didn’t let you make up your own mind they told you this is good and you must like it? It didn’t keep the peace in Europe, the fact that until the 90s Europe was split between America and Russia did. I can tell that between primary and high school the British Empire was not mentioned even once, except as a historical fact in relation to other things. The average British student is far more likely to know about Hitler and the Holocaust than the British EmpireI had to find out about the British Empire through my own reading which in any semi modern book would tell me it was a generally wicked thing

Or 52% of hands to be precise.

Brexit was always a simple equation of logic. In the EU club = Club benefits such as frictionless trade. Outside the EU club = No Club benefits so no frictionless trade! Promoters of Brexit lied endlessly and curtailed our actual freedom of living and working in Europe! Not exactly difficult to understand!

Ireland has a high level of inward migration from outside the island. Dorling is good on some broad brush questions, less so on factual detail.

@@kmadge9820 doesn't more or less every rich European country have tons of immigration because of our failing birthrates? Immigration is a simple necessity.

Do you need a couch to lie on?

@@hobi1kenobi112 Thank you but no need on my part! However, I know of manifold millions of other Brits who are in need of your kind offer…

Somebody heard something they didnt want to hear

Interesting. With your permission I like to add few words, relevant to UK. 1st generation builds it (British Empire) 2nd generation enjoys it (& give European Union idea) and 3rd generation destroys it (lying, deceiving & coward leadership got us Brexit)

Occupation by a foreign power is humbling. The last time the UK was actually invaded successfully those in power renamed it the Glorious Revolution. Great propaganda.

@Steven Redpath “soundbite history” rarely stacks up when you dig into it

@@jaywalker1233 feel free to dig into it all you like but remember that it is the victor who gets to dictate the narrative. The facts are, though, that William of Orange arrived in Britain with an army on 3 ships and invaded the country. His way was made easier by high ranking traitors who sought to overthrow the reigning monarch and if their plot had failed their heads would have been placed on spikes. The fact this invasion was called the Glorious Revolution was pure propaganda to legitimise a foreign king becoming the head of state. That he was married to a Stuart was just another part of the plot to confer legitimacy on the coup.

Steven Redpath “The facts are”, as you present them, highly selective and partial in order to make a point that distorts the events which can only be understood by a much more in depth and balanced account - hence my comment. So, no it was not an “invasion” as most people would understand that word, it was more akin to a political coup with a pre-prepared, stage managed “invasion” masterminded by 6 English Lords and the Bishop of London - all of whom sat in Parliament. You ignored British religious politics (a key reason), fear of European Catholic dominance (Brexit parallels anyone?) and James II’s increasingly tyrannical behaviours. I could go on and on, but this is not a suitable forum for extended discourse which would be necessary in order to refute attempts to make misleading “points”.

@@jaywalker1233 pointing out that there is an alternative perspective and explanation of events is an essential part of history and historical discussion. As for it not being an invasion, a foreign army landed in England. A foreign king became head of state. Sure there were many underlying reasons for this but to deny it was an invasion is akin to calling the civil war in Ireland “the troubles” as the British government did. And those people were enemy collaborators who would have been executed for high treason if the coup hadn’t succeeded.

It seems unavoidable but also necessary. We have to experience the economic decline and the decline in international influence to learn what we thought we had learned from the Suez crisis.

And when the tories are kicked out,the incoming government will be faced with a hellishly impossible task...that of trying to rebuild britain into a modest shadow of its former self.

@@howler6490 And the incoming government will be punished for it instead of remembering who's fault is. (Although to be really fair Labour Party never opposed Brexit because they thought it was beneficial for them).

Or democracy?

What about Spains colony’s in North Africa.

@@johnwilson3842 Check again buddy, those 2 cities and the handfull of islets you call colonies, are not colonies. The UN commitee on decolonization agrees aswell, so you argument is null and void. Ceuta and Melilla were part of the Visigoth spanish Kingdom, who inherited/took the territory from the Roman Empire, the Arabs took Ceuta and launched the invasion of mainland Spain from its port, and as such, they were reconquered from the muslims centuries before the state of Morrocco was even a vague notion on peoples minds, and more a collection of war like tribes that fought and hated each other. Both cities have since been treated as parts of mainland Spain, with no special status as separate entities like Gibraltar has had for all its history under british rule. Plus we didnt evict the locals and filled the place with our people, like the British did, infact the local muslim inhabitants of Ceuta and Melilla enlist on mass on the two muslim mayority regiments charged with the defense of Spain´s african territories. Almost as if we integrated them...

Damn self determination. Unacceptable. In both Gibraltar case and UK wanting to leave the EU.

@@Roguesquadroon of course they are colonies! They are militarised enclaves in a different continent. Your we quixotic vision of Spain sounds just like the false history of the British empire this guy is talking about

@@peterrobertnixon2243 Im sorry for your delusional state, the fact that they are militarized, or that they are enclaves, Even tho most are islands, has NOTHING to do with their status. I know this pains your anglocentric mind, but the UN has never considered the spanish territories in North Africa as colonies, never has issued a resolution for them to be returned and never will because the definition of "colony" does simply not apply to places like Ceuta and Melilla or the Alhucema Islands. The descendants of the original inhabitants still live there, overwhemingly muslim and fervorously patriotic spaniards who enlist en masse into the regiments tasked with their defense. They werent kicked out and replaced with overseas mainlanders like the british did in Gibraltar. Thats why Gibraltar, STILL is on the naughty list...

Revoltingsheeple I’m not sure how you’re reply fits in with what i posted ? But hey ho live and let live boyo

Companies will cope with the outputs regardless. Not sure about people

@@faridbouakline2862 for the big companies it will be easier to adapt, for the big majority of small to medium seize companies it will make trade a lot more cumbersome. some will adapt the rest will go under

when? source, please? wikipedia states differently

No it hasn’t

Im afraid it wont since well, wales hasnt really been for independence i belive their independence party lost seats the last election, the SNP lost their vote for independence in their "once in a generation" vote so clearly it was only one chance, Northern Ireland still has the DUP which if im not wrong has a majority or is about 50/50. The UK is unlikely to fall any time soon

Nowhere in the Edinburgh Agreement (official documents regarding 2014 Scottish independence referendum) does it state "Once in a generation" so that myth has been exposed, also support for Scottish independence is currently running at 55% & rising. The UK will not exist in 5 years.

@Paul RS - we will see!

@Paul RS - As for the economic argument, the latest GERS figure show that Scotland cannot afford to stay in the union, it obviously isn't working for Scotland.

George Shaw let’s do a hard brexit and find out

given it took me seconds to google multiple references (was 1960-1963 fwiw)... maybe try broadening your reading. or reassess what "a lot" means to you versus what it means to others. I dunno. start with google. go from there.

@@stiofanmacamhalghaidhau765 That was proved to be a lie, but wiki keeps the lie up.

@Don’t tread on me yes we are especially since Trump lost the vote there’s country even close now

hmm and now the winter of 2022-23... could you have dared imagine in 2020?

@@stiofanmacamhalghaidhau765 Brexit is the gift that keeps on giving!!!

62% of those who voted, that is, voted leave. The 1,319,918 figure is the eligible voting population, of whom the 320,636 who abstained from voting are missing in your calculation.

frown at them. sternly. but in a terribly british way. ;-)

How much of an independent country is it if it votes majority remain and still has to leave

Pretty sure we left a while ago

It never will be delivered because it was based on lies and brexiters continue to lie as the economy deteriorates. The recent opinion polls indicate that this is finally starting to dawn on the electorate, or at least the more intelligent part of it.

@@Dantes.Kakistocracy the Lords have all the power the Cons and Lab are happy with that so that themselves cannot be blamed .you see they are all connected at the end .

Brexit has absolutely been delivered. Just because you don’t like what you got, doesn’t mean it hasn’t happened.

Brexit as put forward to the British people, can't be delivered. The Brexit you've got, is what was possible. And it was always going to hurt the UK.

Tamalia Alisjahbana yes, but I think Britain’s problem is also that Britain doesn’t work for the majority of Britain’s, and the problems are being blamed on others rather than the actual people gutting the country. So you say, my living conditions are getting worse because of these foreign people, or my living conditions are getting worse because people with plenty of money are corrupting democracy and spinning a story on the media every night so the public won’t take action against them. It’s much easier to understand that foreigners you know nothing about are the bad guys than trying to explain a complex socio-economic framework at play that has been screwing the majority of the population for 40 years. That’s hard to understand, even though all the evidence suggests that’s the actual problem

Indeed. The mash report did a very clever sketch on it a few years back.

@@conors4430 Reagan-Thatcher. The key problem: privatization.

and Russia sadly.

Oh the EU is a Nation.

The 21th century will be chaos ... climate change.

depends on what you mean by 'superpower' eh. regardless, your analysis is incorrect. usa, china, india, perhaps. or eu, usa, china. safe to say 3 years ago, russia wasn't a 'superpower', a fact now very clearly made. unless 'superpower' refers to 'how big a whack-job the freak running your country is' in which case yep russia counts for sure.

If you can read French then you might like to read "Les Illusions Optiques de l'Union Europeenne", by Charles-Henri Gallois. Shame that he'll never get the chance to put them into practice, now that the country belongs to the EU, at least until 2027.👹👹👹

Mug

Really? Rickets are back in the UK, according to a recent BBC report, that's right, ox-bow legs.

But it has lost a substanial amount of business, and it was never forecast to sink overnight, and according to JRM we wont see any brexit benefits for 50 years, and by the way things are going working people will take longer to recover to the levels of the past.

The Tories were always going to look after their backers and ensure Brexit wasn’t hard on them. Other sectors of the economy could be thrown under the bus to protect the financial sector and Tory backers.

@Aditya Chavarkar Because the democratic majority of the UK said so, they voted for sovereignty, independence from a corrupt, anti democratic, unaccountable, protectionist, mafioso organisation run by a bunch of childish, vindictive, self serving, gravy train riding, free loading parasites.

London is still strong but lots of European countries are catching up and the uks economy is undoubtedly suffering due to brexit. Its now undeniable

It's a mistake to maintain the notion 48% want the UK to be part of the UK. That 48% has subdivided into 20% rejoiners and 28% rebrainers. I would guess the country is 30% really want out, 20% really want in and 50% couldn't care less. Because we left with a referendum, we would have to re-join with a referendum and that means the 20% convincing 3/5 of the 50% and that is never going to happen.

@@Iazzaboyce Well said. Most sensible & logical comment I've read so far. I was one of the 30%, I never really trusted the EU set-up, how on earth can you have a cartel (that's exactly what it is) making up laws, rules, directives etc etc which are supposed to be to everyone's advantage? Cannot/never will work.👹👹👹

You need help.

Paul Nolan I’ve no idea and I really couldn’t care less😉

Paul Nolan All I know is that your blood pressure must be dangerously high and there is absolutely nothing you can do about it😁

I think he is good as well. But I don't see a contradiction between them. They are just looking at it from different angles.

@@denisdaly1708 This felt a little patronising and dismissive of the people that voted to leave which triggered my original comments. I do plan to sit and watch it again at some point to try and understand his veiw better.

Hence they speak Latin still as the world language?

@@danielwebb8402 , no they don't, but it gives a posh atmosphere of knowledge if you can remember some phrases in Latin. I am speaking about the British.

@@hurri7720 I know you are. So we have dominated the world language wise. Today. Is the point I was failing to try and make.

@@danielwebb8402 , starting from the beginning, the speech by Prof Dorling was very fine and proper, much to the point. But he was introduced by a guy who pulled this gem.- "the largest empire the world has ever known" and that is so silly so childish. Empire is about power and influence not about landmass. Perhaps you should have a new look at the Empire here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Empire#/media/File:The_British_Empire.png Canada and Australia introduced no great power. Looting the third world was nothing new. As for the language the number three out of four for me. Yes it has become largely the number two language in the world but if we are honest it wasn't the Empire that made English popular but the United States. During the time of the Empire English was a lot less important than French and German in Europe. That only changed after WW2 due to the Americans and well Hollywood and of course due to the great emigration to the USA. Nothing wrong with that English is a Germanic language with some 10.000 words from French (making the spelling a bit odd though). And for instance regarding India and the Empire we find this: "After gaining independence from the United Kingdom in 1947, English remained an official language of the new Dominion of India and later the Republic of India. Only a few hundred thousand Indians, or less than 0.1% of the total population, spoke English as their first language.". There is no reason not to be proud about ones country but there are good reasons not to sound silly for no good reasons. And the English have a certain tendency to pull the "world leading" a bit too often not based on facts.

@@pj4496 , it's rather worthless to do such a comparison about things then, back in time. I don't think there was ever an empire not based on force and looting. That is how you created one. But the British, some, seem to be a bit reluctant to admit it or get over it. Still mentally basking in the sun that never sat, sort of. You don't find anything similar except among some Russians who still miss the Russian empire. Spain, Portugal or Italy non of that sticking out all the time.

And also because we of the old school refuse to recognize ANY government unless it is a democratically elected one elected under universal suffrage and with a proper legal mandate to govern as such. NOT THE CASE IN THE DEVIL'S EU.👹👹👹👹👹

17 million out of 65 mil isn't the majority of the union. Its the majority of those who voted. NI and Scotland voted remain heavily and are both rightly pissed off from the fallout and ramifications of Brexit. Tricky issue to just shut up about

@@adampeckham8541 there you go breaking your own petty little rule, not everyone in Scotland or Ireland voted to remain………..and it’s not a tricky issue at all for anyone who isn’t wedded to getting their own way at all costs..

@@leemyring97 uh OK 😂😂👍

If you liked this one, chances are that you'll enjoy those talks by Anand Menon as well

@@roelmartinvandervelde9407 thank you I will check them out.

Sometimes we need to get use of our common sense

Gained flavour and body and increased in value? Yup.

You do know that UK is in a deep crisis because of Brexit, do you?

hmm. what exactly does being a 'lifelong democrat in the US' do to provide insight into what's going on in the uk? at a wild guess, backed by your comment, not a lot tbh.

a nation taught to not hope.

a few months after your comment. in terms of cabinets. so far. likely in terms of social disruption, trade, poverty, healthcare etc at least another 15 years.

a lot of them did, and so did a lot of politicians, economists, business leaders etc. and that is why remain lost. it wasn't an intellectal argument they were up against, it was - though danny dorling doesn't explicitly state it here - about emotions. emotional arguments backed by appeal to flattering self-image on one hand and fearful, vague notions of sneaky, manipulative foreigners on the other. it was blatantly obvious what was going on looking in from outside. it was also blatantly obvious that it wasn't at all obvious to an awful lot of people within the uk. it was painful to watch, and even more painful to continue watching as our friends and relatives trapped in the uk slowly realise that the trap will take a decade more at a minimum to open. facts failed to stick because they were dispassionate, unemotional, there was no appeal to pride or hope, to generosity and excitement. so fear won.

d s the eu want us to stay so they won’t get what they want

The Dis-United Kingdom is desperate for a deal otherwise they would have just left. The deluded brexiteers actually think the Dis-United Kingdom is on a equal footing with the EU lol 🤗😂

If any member state of the EU chooses to leave then their decision should be respected and a free trade agreement should be negotiated that is fair to both sides.

@@jonoessex - It can't be better or equal to the deal the members have.

At least we're having a normal chat here. It's just abusing each other when I read other chat places.

And people are suppose to take the crap from the right? Should a no-deal come into force, the UK or what is left of it is basically fucked for the next 30-50 years. And who has led you to this? I say this as no fan of Corbyn, because he is an idiotic leaver too. Dorling presented data and their conclusion, that has little to do with Corbyn. What do you and your lot present? More lies? So just because it doesn't aligned with your politics, it is bias and must be dismissed? I am from one of the countries leaver leadership claims they want to 'model' after, and I would tell you that none of those rubbish they sold for Brexit, works the way they describe. If your side has to build your entire case on so much deceit, what do you really have? What are you even doing to yourself? What have you even won? Suffering for no good reason just because some very rich people convince you it's a good thing? Your conservative kept making excuses but they have been in control for a decade, even much longer in the US. And you kept giving them more power. How much more suffering does it take?

Go back to reading your daily mail

The Chinese are building one now

except that it isn't ending, it's getting even more powerful :))

@@DerDop I hope your right, I love America, you got alot of traitors at the top selling you out to China and Russia. If you can get that in order, I agree, you'll be super powerful. Peace

It seems to be a job requirement, especially in the spongiform subjects.

@@ellenoneill7853 :)))

jacob rees mogg exists. that's a fact that links both. ;-)

Did we have another election, gosh I must have missed it I didn't know starmer was priminister

@Aditya Chavarkar exactly... Why do we want more of it? Haha

@Aditya Chavarkar environment side, well considering that Germany still stripmines for coal and most of the block is still heavily dependent on Russian fossil fuels I don't think that environmental legislation stuff is of much use is it?

It was won on the basis of exploiting your average white provincial racist mind set. Which in turn is a result of a racist imperialist history.

No, it was immigration

@@karlosthejackel69 but also Bureaucracy

I assume you are talking about the party, that is/was legally a company owned/controlled by 2 person. Are they also the ones to spent all donations?

You wish.

Scotland will be Independent within 5 years.

Do you mean the break up of the U.K.?? Do you know geography. Did you know England (City of London) is a country within a country (England) within a country (United Kingdom). What you talking about?

what an impoverished education that would be.