I really wish we would've gotten more Troupe member fights. I'd love to see their abilities more, especially Feitan's.

Just because gon and killua was able to break some phantom troup bones doesn't mean they are automatically weak. Gon was able to break illumi's arm and we all know hisoka more or less ranks illumi as an equal. Being prepared for a battle and getting surprise attacked makes a big difference.

Man i wish the phantom troupe had more fights characters like fraklin and phinx are so cool and are rarely shown doing crap

Illumi got his arm broken cause he wasn't using Nen to protect himself and didn't expect Gon to be capable of that much strength so even after being grabbed he put up 0 defenses. IF Illumi used Nen he could have easily defended and scared Gon away, I think he was being 'respectful of Killua's acquaintance' in his own way, stopping and speaking to Gon alone is more than he gives most people.

Machi is one of the most talented nen users, given that she was the first one to master nen and was able to see nen before anyone else

A class ranking in my opinion: Illumi Fitan Uvogin

HxH scaling is so weird man, you have to put characters with basically no real fights or no reveal of their hatsu in upper tiers automatically still lol, great video though

Props for taking on such a touchy subject, people get extremely toxic and argumentative when it comes to power rankings esp if it involves their favorite character lol. Overall great list and informative as hell with reasoning behind every decision. When it comes to characters like Machi who we have literally nothing to scale with besides some little details it's better to just not rank them at all but if you had to rank them you did a great job.

I pretty much agree with every placement besides maybe Machi and Illumi, but their placement really isn't 100% wrong. I think Illumi should be at S-class since Hisoka does consider him a worthy opponent, but he is blatantly featless and under the other two in terms of power, so top of A-class is fine imo. Machi as you said is also largely featless as well but I say she could be anywhere from low A to C-class. I personally consider her high B or low A, because again Hisoka does have some kind of interest in her fighting ability. Now its not on the level of Illumi or Chrollo but definitely above the other members including Uvo who definitely A-class. Keep in mind that most of the other members (besides braindead Nobu and Shizuka) are uncomfortable around Hisoka while Machi is largely annoyed with him and isn't afraid to interact with him or even threaten him. I know using Hisoka is not much but come on, he's constantly used as a measuring stick even in the series itself. He thinks Leorio has potential when he shown no innate talent and what do you know, the guy is now punching through freaking dimensions. Also, one thing that I have to mention is that Killua freezing up against Nobu was Illumi's doing, not Nobu. All that moment tells us is that Nobu is definitely stronger than Killua but not by how much and shouldn't be used to scale Nobu to the rest of the troupe. A prime example is Killua being affected by Illumi's needle against Rammot. Rammot was clearly stronger than Killua but not by much because once Killua removed the needle, he instantly one shot Rammot with no diff.

You should make The Chimera Ant Extermination Team VS The Phantom Troupe

Man I wish this Anime would continue.

Anytime I see Chrollo I feel good I feel complete

I’m not sure why people give Uvogin a bad rap for having lost to Kurapika. Kurapika gave his abilities a bunch of restrictions specifically for killing the Phantom Troupe alone; just landing a chain on Uvogin means game over as it would for any other troupe member.

You may be downplaying Illumi a little. It's always heavily implied from a narrative perspective and through Hisoka himself, who you claimed to be an accurate source it terms of scaling. Hisoka believes Illumi would serve as quite the formidable opponent and Illumi himself even thinks he can KILL Hisoka when bloodlusted, which may potentially amp him. The most probable conclusion deducted from this would simply be that the two are on a very similar field in terms of scaling/highly relative to each other. Hunter Exams Gon breaking Illumi's arm isn't an anti-feat as Illumi wasn't using any nen at all, or is implied to have been taking Gon seriously. There's also the fact that Killua blatantly concedes inferiority to Illumi even without his nen at that point in the story, and Gon literally had to go through training to even open Killua's doors after the Hunter Exams. His reaction to his arm being broken is literally just "well ok he's interesting." Hisoka still thought he would pose as a formidable opponent even at the time anyways, which wouldn't make sense if his durability was at a level where fodder like Hunter Exams Gon could seriously injure him when he's actually trying; who Hisoka can no diff by the way.. My claims are of course in reference to Hisoka before his recent amps.

I think this ranking is 100% accurate. You made amazing points on why you picked the ranks. I don’t see how if you read/watched the series you can disagree with it. Thanks for making this 🙏🏾

After Hisoka's post mortum nen buff I do think that he is stronger than Chrollo. Since Hisoka has now changed his motto to "I will kill you on sight", if Chrollo is not given the same luxuray of prep time against a stronger Hisoka I do think that Chrollo would loose this time around.

Nobunaga & Uvogin were best friends. Considering Uvogin's mindset i always thought theyd be on a similar level while using their abilities. We've only seen Nobunaga use one ability tho. I wonder what his hatsu is🤔💭

Nigga really blessed us with a remaster

You did a great job with this list and I would say I agree with it 👍

I personally believe that Phinks and Feitan are neck and neck. And you also didn’t bring up that Phinks said that he charged his ability too much and li😅only needed to use half of what he did to win.

It's hard to judge power levels in Hunter x Hunter because characters have such diverse, complex abilities and different levels of superhuman traits, but it's also hard to judge power levels in any series that doesn't explicitly state them because writers are not scientists. People love jacking off feats, but whenever a writer draws a character punching something, there is basically zero chance he's also considering every other instance of a character throwing a punch and then using that as a gauge for what he draws (several mangaka have admitted to using fanmade wikis to recall characters' abilities). Hunter x Hunter especially has a trend of confusing the reader on what exactly is supposed to be impressive; critics will sometimes claim the power scaling is different in every arc, but defendants will point out the sheer volume of variables determining one's strength, such as whether they're tired, caught off guard, etc. There's also a scene that confirms Togashi thinks in this way (a scene the "Hunter x Hunter has no power levels" people hate to be reminded of) where Biscuit lectures Killua on character power levels and how people are almost never fighting at their best. Another detail that often gets forgotten, is most characters are implied to have more abilities than what is shown. Gon and Killua create their special abilities in just a few days. Since Wing estimates they'd master Ten about 30 times faster than a normal person, we can guess it takes a normal person a few months to develop a new ability. I guarantee most of the important characters, like the Troupe, are not "normal," but even if they were, you'd think at their ages they would've created a few extra abilities by now, just for the sake of utility and niche situations. And in fact, Togashi says they have. When the Troupe is first introduced, the narrator says every single member has a trump card they hide from the others, but we're never told what they are. For Pakunoda, everyone trusted her ability to read minds, so they must've known about that, but they probably didn't know about Memory Bomb. The anime changes this, but in the manga, when Pakunoda tells Nobunaga she'll inject Squala's memories into him, he has no idea what she's talking about, he just trusts she's using a Nen ability and not actually trying to kill him. This is also why Phinks reacts the way he does when she points her gun at them later. But it's not just the Phantom Troupe. If you remember, when we first hear Netero's Hyakushiki Kannon explained to us, it's when an off-screen character asks Zeno what his strongest ability is, and he has to think about it before landing on that one - meaning he has other abilities we never got to see. So it's hard to judge a character's power level and feats aren't the best to go by, but I think it is good to go by the narrative. If a character acts like they're stronger or it would be thematically fitting for them to be stronger, then they probably are. Because of this, my one nitpick would be how you downplay Franklin for not having feats. The other Troupe members listen to Franklin in a way that implies they trust his judgment and he has shown zero utility outside of combat. It would be very strange if he were weaker than all the support members you put him in a tier with. But furthermore, on the Black Whale, Franklin goes off on his own and actually waits in plain sight hoping for Hisoka to come after him, while Phinks and Feitan chase down Nobunaga because they don't trust him being on his own. The three also make it aware to the reader that they know what Franklin is doing and will go get him if they find a lead. This means Phinks and Feitan were afraid for Nobunaga's safety, but not Franklin's.

10:43 Ignore the crater in the ground, ignore the following ant merely exploding in bits

Remember Silva fought corollo and two members from spiders and killed one of them

Some argument to chrollo favor to definitely put him above hisoka Chrollo scratched Silva with a poison knife while fighting Zeno and Silva simultaneously without an hatsu Therefore, Chrollo should have decent to great chances of scratching Hisoka with the knife, paralyzing him, just in CQC without any hatsu. Chrollo told Hisoka about every hatsu he planned to use. We have seen repeatedly in HxH that keeping Nen abilities secret is an enormous advantage or disadvantage. Pariston literally set up an enormous rouse to see Ging’s hatsu and Ging purposefully chose not to show him. Chrollo was making an insane flex by telling Hisoka every hatsu he would use in their battle, as well as their nuances and weaknesses. We do not see Nen users do this when fighting people they consider remotely their equals. Chrollo artificially restricted himself to using only 3 abilities in the fight, citing it was more than he used for anybody else. He has more, but seems to always choose to limit himself to two or less (except for Hisoka) because it’s either a matter of pride or entertainment. I very much doubt that at no time would it have been more efficient to use some other ability. Chrollo said he valued style over victory Why would Chrollo give Hisoka all these advantages of telling him each ability and their weaknesses, say he would only use 3 abilities and no more, not using a hax poison knife, and so on? Because he was maximizing style. He was flexing on a televised match. Heck, even early in their fight, Chrollo landed critical punches and yet never stuck a needle in him. It was theatrics. Therefore, a Chrollo that will use any and all abilities whenever he wants, and gives Hisoka no knowledge on them, a poisoned knife and enough skill to scratch Silva when Silva had Zeno as pure backup, and values an efficient victory overs stylish one, should win. I just don’t see any way that that is not logical at this point. Not knowing an enemy’s hatsu while they know yours is already such an enormous advantage. Needing to only scratch an opponent while having semi adult Zoldyck CQC abilities is an enormous advantage. Together, it’s ridiculous. Hisoka did not want a fair match with Shalnark or Kortopi. He is fighting the way Gon did against superior opponents when trying to use ambushes to maximize his odds. A tangent point, but an important one. We have seen REPEATEDLY that the Troupe will let one member fight in a true 1v1. Uvo and Feitan were each heavily pressured while the rest of the Troupe played cards and chilled. Yet Hisoka chose to ambush Kortopi in the bathroom when Kortopi didn’t even have his hatsu. This is not what someone does when they’re hugely superior. Yet this is for some weird reason compared as equivalent to Chrollo’s prep. Chrollo showed up formally for a scheduled match that Hisoka agreed to, explained all the abilities he would use, as well as their weaknesses and nuances, and gave Hisoka the chance to back out twice after explaining the abilities he planned to use. This is very different than Chrollo ambushing a hypothetically hatsu-less Hisoka with Ghost Fish and other hatsu or whatever while Hisoka was taking a shit and didn’t know anything was coming. Next time they meet Chrollo will fight with pure intent of Murdering Hisoka in the shortest, most convenient and most effective way possible without having the slightest desire for making it a fun battle.

Illumi did take out all the rising dawns by himself, so I think it’s pretty safe say he is A or at the least top B tier

Here is my opinion on this tier list: S+: Chrollo S-: Illumi, Hisoka A+: Feitan, Machi, Nobunaga, Franklin A-: Pakunoda, Phinks, Uvogin B+: Shalnark, Shizuku, Bonolenov B-: Kortopi C: Kalluto

Yay the uploads back!

Clearly Machi and Franklin didn't reach Nobunaga level, but Kalluto didn't even seem stronger than them not a bit, her fight is too slow compared to others members, other members can see clearly how the fight goesn on and has the base super speed that show in anime but for Kalluto he/she seems hard to follow, so at least Kalluto is weaker than Machi and Franklin I even doubt Kalluto can beat Pakunoda. All others members like : Feitan, Phinks, Nobunaga, even Uvogin should be A to S tier(they are the combat team basically),and Illumi is cleary S tier level in Phantom troop, the fact Hisoka put so high level to Illumi it clearly makes him to be in S class. Hisoka just feels the urge after playing with Gon in Greed Island and wants to fight someone to release the urge(is the same thing like Exam arc), yeah Hisoka fondness to fight someone didn't mean that person should be so strong this applied to Chrollo as well, but you need to be strong enough if you want Hisoka to fight you, to catch Hisoka interest you don't need to be at Zeno, Silva, Ging level. Hisoka really wants to fight Chrollo cause Chrollo has special ability, Chrollo is hard to find, Chrollo has charismatic of the leader, and he is strong not because he's stronger than Illumi.

Something thats part of why Hisoka can deal out way better blows is that Chrollo has the lowest possible proficiency with enhancement at 50%, while Hisoka is a transmuter meaning he gets 80% in said category. Enhancers are generally bound to be physically dominant in fights for this reason

Jupiter was more impressive than the 15x ripper cyclotron imo because of the insane range/inescapability. I do think phinks is probably stronger but purely cause of how he is positioned in the story, I think bonolenov’s feat is actually better

I didn't search for this, i just happened to searched a lot of HxH explained type of channels in the past, so the algorithm did it for me. I would like to point out to everyone watching this video: this is ranking battle ability, not nen ability or who has the most aura. The thing about HxH is, people with only supportive or utility ability can and proofed to be useful in certain situation, that ppl who lacks battle ability but useful in something else are accepted to big groups, like Phantom Troupe here. This is not an Anime or Manga which battle ability actually reign supreme, the groups not just recruiting heavy hitters for wonderful battle scenes, but many people who is useful at something else are valuable in the world of HxH, and it shows. Thx for the video, it's really make sense for me... .

15 - Kortupi 14 - Pakunoda 13 - Kalluto 12 - Shizuku 11 - Shalnark 10 - Franklin 9 - Machi 8 - Bonolenov 7 - Phinks 6 - Nobunaga 5 - Uvogin 4 - Feitan 3 - Illumi 2 - Hisoka 1 - Chrollo

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This list is easily the best one online. Machi is probably a low A tier, but I agree with her placement for now since she just has no feats. Its super unclear how strong shalnark is, with autopilot being anywhere from peon ant level to high squadron leader level, so I think I agree with that too. Uvogin is super strong, and he would have annihilated kurapika if kurapika didn’t sacrifice both an ability and his own life just to kill him, so another great placement. Finally, I think I would put post mortem hisoka above chrollo but chrollo above normal hisoka.

When it comes to Killua and Phinks there are a few things you accidentally missed. With Phinks, Killua had an illusion of escape still, which evaporated when Nobu appeared in the fourth floor window. Phinks was just messing around, unlike Pakunoda who was more serious with gon. If Phinks seemed half as serious as Pakunoda, killua would’ve reacted accordingly (fear). Illumi’s needle forces him to focus on enemies with the most bloodlust or intense emotion, Phinks had neither when encountering killua. Nobunaga cemented himself as the bigger threat immediately by being less mentally stable, then openly displaying his intent to kill, even asking “do you want to die now, or later?” And “speak out of turn once more, and I’ll kill you”. Phinks makes no such threats, as he doesn’t mean them. Nobunaga has reasons (rip uvo) and means what he says. When in a room full of the phantom troupe, it makes sense he focuses on the most immediate threat, even disregarding Hisoka, who is likely stronger than Nobunaga, because Hisoka had no reason to kill him *yet.* all in all a good vid!

I see you. Using Puzzle and Dragons pictures. ;D

Not to mention the postmortem nen that Hisoka now has that multiplied his already immense power.

Hisoka Vs Chrollo in a true 1 on 1 could literally go either away. Even though I personally think Hisoka would win. But they do scale VERY closely.

Yup, I’m seeing a lot of comments about Machi’s placement lol. Dang, I didn’t know she was such a fav, I always overlooked her 😅 Not that you’re right or wrong, but I can agree with your placements based on the reasonings you give for your personal placements. Especially those with less to no feats. I do have to say that with Feitan vs Zazan, the PT repeatedly said that he wasn’t at full strength during the whole fight. So I see it kind of hard to scale his actual spot in a number, I do agree with it being in A though.

@00:36 to be fair Morel was speaking from a "realistic" nen aura amount. The Royal Guards and the king's sheer amount of aura is unheard of.

I'd say the tiers are pretty good. For the A tier i would put Uvogin at 5 because his abilities are pretty limited and i think the other two have more hax that could make them stronger against more different opponents. Then i would probably put Illumi at 4 and Feitan at 3, but it is only a gut feeling. Also because Feitan was briefly the head of the spiders and i know it was just a random contest and not for skill but i think Togashi made Feitan the temporary leader and not someone else for a reason, i think he was hinting to his strenght. And we could say Feitan outperformed every other spider that was present during the chimera ant fight, and i know they are all on a lower tier but it is still impressive. For Hisoka and Chrollo in my mind they are basically equal, and i would say Hisoka is most definetly phisically stronger than Chrollo. Maybe it is only my impression but to me it looked like Hisoka was hitting harder and Chrollo had to play 4D chess to avoid being hit because the fight could end there while Hisoka was tanking hits and hitting back everyone like a truck. And it would make sense because Chrollo being a specialist has the worst affinity with enhancement (40%), while Hisoka being a Transmuter has enhancement as one of his next best affinities (80%). Chrollo definetly has the advantage in variety of skills and he is really smart and tactical, but Hisoka is really perceptive and instincive and the one skill he has he mastered it and he knows how to use it in hundreds different ways for every scenario he can find himself in. Both really good strategists with amazing creativity, i would probably put Chrollo at number 1 because we saw their fight but let's not forget that Chrollo had to put all the odds against Hisoka, i think it would be far more difficult for him without prep time, maybe i COULD see Hisoka being slighty above Chrollo. There are other positions that i would switch around a bit inside the tiers but the comment is already really long, overall for me it's a pretty solid list, well done.

as a REAL hxh fan i js wanna say, Feitan is one of my fave phantom troupe member

Great video ! I agree with pretty much everything and you make great points. I differ a bit though and would rank them Hisoka (Post-Mortem Nen), Chrollo, Hisoka, Illumi, Uvogin, Nobunaga, Feitan, Shalnark (Autopilot), Phinks, Franklin, Machi, Bonolenov, Shalnark, Shizuku, Kalluto, Pakunoda, Kortopi I say Hisoka is stronger then Chrollo simply since he has face him once already, got a big amp in strength after death and Chrollo would likely not have any other Troupe members in the future since it led to two members death.

Illumi is a type of character that doesn't do much, but u know that he's strong af... His presence alone delivers that, and by the fact that Hisoka likes him and he's the Zoldyck's oldest son, that just implies how strong he is.

Didnt know hisoka got to fight the leader!!! Time to read the manga

I'd put nobunaga higher considering he was teaming up with uvogin. They were the 2 fighters of the troop, so most likely the most experienced fighting wise. I guess we'll see more about him in future scans.

I think Hisoka allowed Kurapika to kill Uvogin because he knew that with uvo alive he would have to face him first before getting to Chrollo. So it made sense to his cause to let kurapika eliminate him before engaging with chrollo. I don’t think hisoka could take Uvo head on. If he did manage to he would be to drained to fight chrollo after which would defeat the purpose. 🤷🏾‍♂️

The hisoka theme was a nice touch in s rank

I think you're forgetting the fact that Chrollo can now use 2 abilities at the same time

1. Chrollo 2. Hisoka 3. Uvogin 4. Illumi 5. Feitan 6. Phinks 7. Franklin 8. Nobunaga 9. Machi 10. Bonolenov 11. Shalnark 12. Shizuku 13. Kalluto 14. Pakunoda 15. Kortopi

If Kurapika can take a punch from Uvogin, im pretty sure Feitan can aswell and then when he sends it back it wont be pretty 🤣

A problem is during every fight the phantom troupe seems so chill that it seems like they aren’t even trying, I have a feeling we haven’t even seen a single troupe member go all out

Are you ever going to power scale the boys comic or Kengan Ashura/Omega?

1- Hisoka = Chrollo ( in a fair fight it will be 55% for Hisoka and 45% for Chrollo ) 2 - Illumi 3 - Phinks ( when Feitan was fighting against Zazan, Phinks was making comments about Feitan's silly mistakes such as letting his body completely exposed to her Aura, and he said that her Aura was weak but she was able to put severe damage on him. And he made it seem that he is not the type of guys to make such mistakes unlike Feitan.) 4 - Uvo ( the only different between him and Phinks is that Phinks has more battle IQ which will give him a huge egde against Uvo, i don't think that Phinks will make a silly mistake such as not using Gyo against Kurapika ) 5 - Feitan ( he has the same battle IQ as Uvo but i ranked him lower because Uvo has the ability to one shot him before he even has the chance to activate his ability, you may say that Feitan is faster but Uvo's attack has a big range therefore speed will not be enough also he can use sound attacks ). 6 - Nobunaga and then you can rank the rest as you want.

Great scaling without any bias 🎉. Now i need a scaling of all Bleach Captains

Illumi got his arm broken because he wasn't using nen. The series makes it very clear that unlike other power systems, nene abilities and techniques aren't passive, and must be actively used in order to work. That's why surprise attacks work so often in the series. About Chrollo and Hisoka, I think that because of how spontaneous and creative Hisoka is, he would be a much more dangerous opponent in a battle with absolute zero prep time, while Chrollo's ability makes him more powerful in instances where he is ready for a fight.

From all of the Phantom Troupe Ranked videos, i still find this one the most accurate so far; you have done great observations like the one with Machi. However i could still argue with some of your Analysis. - Eventhough Machi is pretty much a supportive character, she can still use the stitches to heal herself, whenever she gets hurt. - Not because Machi, Nobunaga and Franklin were not present when the Phantom Troupe were fighting the Chimera Ant Squadron Leaders; that lower their fences. I mean Franklin has very powerful and has deadly Nen Bullets. - Speaking of Class A, i'd definitelly rank Nobunaga in there. I mean from all of the Troupe Members, Nobunaga along with Feitan & Uvogin is the one who shows off his combat abilities the most. Like you said he is always there to protect the supportive characters weaker than him like Franklin, Shizuku & Machi. Nobunaga has been showned to be able to challenge Hisoka, Chrollo, Feitan, Phinks & Franklin on sparring matches. Not only that but since Nobunaga used to fight alongside Uvogin often, it pretty much tells you how strong & powerful he is; probably equal or even more powerful than Illumi............. that's just my own observation. - Speaking of Illumi, i know that by just being born as a Zoldick he's a beast, and eventhough Hisoka is very confident in his power to the point that he ranks him above most of the Zodiacs; we haven't seen much of his combat style. Only the time when he killed all of the Ten Doers. I still rank Illumi as equal as Nobunaga (call me crazy but even probably lower). So with me being a big Hunter X Hunter fan and after watching this video i will give you my Tier List from the Phantom Troupe Members, and just like you did, no particular order on the members from the same Class: Class D: Kortopi & Pakunoda Class C: Calluto, Shalnark, Shizuku & Machi Class B: Bonolenov, Phinks & Franklin Class A: Illumi, Nobunaga, Uvogin & Feitan Class S: Hisoka & Chrollo Great analysis man, very good observation on Machi, however i still argue with the fact that Machi can heal herself with her own Nen Stitches. And yes Hisoka & Chrollo are in the same tier as Silva & Zeno Zoldick. PS: I know we haven't seen much on Omokage except from the Phantom Rouge Movie, nor from the member who got killed by Silva Zoldick; however due to the fact that one of them fought Silva and warned his family about the Troupe and the other being powerful to the point that even Hisoka spared his life i'd probably consider them as Class B+.

Pretty much agree on all of them, great ranking! Could you make a similar video on all the chimera ants? We obviously know the strongest 4 + Gyro. But it'd be nice to know how the rest would rank against eachother.

One thing I love about the Phantom Troupe is how many utility based powers they have. They have their designated fighting force of course, but there are a couple of the members who are pretty bad in real fights, but invaluable to the troupe in other aspects of the crime world. Pakunoda is probably the best example of that, in a fight she is pretty weak, but that is neither her designated role in the troupe, nor what she specializes in. But when it comes to extracting information out of someone, no one can do it as well as her.

the criteria used to assume power most of the time makes no sense using funny fights between members, considering that being strong how bad the enemy is after their abilities hit them etc... there's just not enough information to rank them specially if we consider that the plot of the chimera ant fights was just to show off their powers, so it wouldn't make sense to have all of them one shot the enemies

It depends, if it's power scaling most likely enhancers will be at the top, but in terms of abilities, it matters. Even Chrollo said that Uvogin is helpless against a conjurer or a manipulator in one on one scenario, meaning a manipulator like illumi or shalnark can beat him. If it's the amount of aura, all of them are high enough. Aura level that will be enhancers, combat skills, it may vary That's what cool with the battle system in hunter x hunter, as long as they're almost with the same power/aura level and combat skills, anyone can win. Nen battle is all about abilities and usage of nen like gyo, in, shu etc.

Bro get rid of that swooshing sound when you transition

Kurapika forcing zetsu on Chrollo and sealing his nen was hella badass

What do you mean its impossible to decide between Hisoka and Chrollo? They literally fought and there was a definitive winner.

What if Pakunoda didn’t use nen to protect her arm and that’s why it got broken?

Didn’t Illumi send an entire village after Killua when he was tryna save his sister?

Was wondering who made this then realized it’s you. Going big as an ibc vet I see

Great list can’t argue

Franklin is being HARD underestimated here, dude is ranked no.4 on the physical scale and he has an insane emmiter ability, like look at the latest manga chapters for reference, Kurapika is being really thoughtful when facing guys with guns and Franklin has an ability that fires nen bullets, not to mention he is the guy that sits ALONE waiting for Hisoka (Confident for his abilities) Imo Franklin is one of the strongest troupe members out there.

i HEAR what you’re saying about machi, but you’re wrong. She is consistently shown to have a faster reaction time than whichever troupe members are around her in that moment. She had made direct threats to Hisoka that she’d kill him, which indicates a level of relativity, as she is also known to have good instincts. Machi is at worst one or two spots below Hisoka. While her combative skills might be weaker than other members, her reaction time would be more than enough to compensate.

Greg video! High quality analysis and editing. You should do some more inverse HxH content such as hypothetical scenarios, vs battles etc

Let me start by saying not a machi fan boy and I do like the video. I do agree that powerscaling somewhat exsists in HxH. As you said very few people can do anything to Meruem. Although 1 of them being Phinxs theoretically at least. Netero honestly depends on your ability. With that being said I got things to say. The guides I’m pretty certain shouldn’t be taken with any seriousness. If you want I can list quite a lot of things that just don’t add up in there or are currently invalid. However, I got to point out your intentionally leaving out machi was caught off guard along with pakinodo and Chrollo to use that as validation already seems faulty. Maki also seems pretty confident she can beat Hisoka on the boat hence why she chooses to go alone. In terms of the troupe as you know everyone is going to disagree with some placements. Using Hisoka as the scale of interest is rather odd, he thought he honestly thought could fight Netero. Hisoka’s desire to fight chrollo simply stems from how long it took to actually achieve it, not because he’s the strongest person he’s seen. I do believe Uvogin is stronger than Hisoka because realistically speaking Kurapika beats any troupe member in 1v1 fight so that’s not a valid comparison. Obonaga said he’d only lose to Uvo in a unarmed fistfight. The troupe members phinks especially is certain they could beat Zanzan with relative ease. Reason Feitan even took as much damage as he did well the implied reason is because he literally took an unguarded nen attack. I strongly doubt he put his all in that strike because what phinks said right after was he didn’t expect no damage. I don’t think they were overconfident because currently in the manga they’re smart enough to realize not to attack a group of nen users head on without knowing what there capable of. Using gon to scale phinks when phinks literally said he could use significantly less than that and the first punch he threw had no aura. I do think current Hisoka is a lot stronger. Also it seems there’s a misconception about the expo but those aren’t in terms of raw fight power it’s in terms of if they reached the maximum potential of their respective abilities. With all that being said I’ll have to say I’d rearrange a few members . TLDR; placements sound wrong based on what you presented from Machi, feitan phinks Illumi nobunaga uvogin Hisoka pre death if post he can stay there.

Stopped at Machi being ranked so low. Haha. What a joke.😅

Beautifully done. No one has done it better.

C'mon, Illumi ALLOWED Gon to break his arm. Just like Ging allowed Leorio to punch him. So that shouldn't even be taken into consideration. Pretty sure if he used nen at the time (which he didn't) Gon wouldn't have broken his arm. Illumi wasn't even bothered by it.

if u actually watched the anime,u could tell illumi has a huge amount of aura, killua said it more then once, hisoka praised hes aura also, not one of the zoldyck family fight when theres nothing to gain, illumi and hisoka are very similar and illumi isnt interested in fighting like hisoka is.

I definitely think that Chrollo is #1 but not by a large margin right now. Chrollo was confident he could beat Hisoka he just used the prep to ensure his victory (this without prep scaling is further enforced by him being relative to Zeno and Silva). I also think that Hisoka isn’t stronger than Zeno or Silva because he is only slightly stronger than illumi. However this is all before Hisoka dies and gets post mortem nen, this is when I think Hisoka gets into S tier.

W omg. People who think Feitan>Hisoka annoy tf outta me.

I actually largely agree with this list say for a couple of placements due to Observations. Everyone is I think giving Illumi a whole lot of credit, as you stated yourself Hisoka likes to fight lots of people including Leorio and as much as I love him Leorio gets washed by 99% of the series. Meaning Hisoka liking someone doesn't akin to strength, this doesn't mean Illumi isn't strong because that's just not true he is a Zoldyc after all however Illumi is relatively featless from what we see he's considered strong similar to Shalnark because of his ability to control people but he also has assassination, his abilities I don't think scale that highly with the majority of the troupe I would put him in High C to mid B. Now that being said I'd definitely like to kick Pheton up as he himself stated that the huge sun was one of his weaker abilities meaning he has so much more room for potential and with that as his main ability I expect him to have tons of endurance capable of outlasting alot of the troupe until he's able to decimate them. I think top of A is a good spot for him Nobunaga is an enigma but his overall presentation hints at him being on the stronger end, the fact that he's a troupe member and still hasn't shown his Nen ability even through multiple high level combat missions says it all, he's outlasted most of the gang and you can tell by how Chrollo speaks with him he's respected I'd say he scales above Uvogine purely off Spoken Merit. And finally I believe Hisoka takes the win against Chrollo 9 times out of 10 post Heaven's arena duel as Hisoka states himself that he's gained tons of power and Hisoka using those terms speaks for it self, he's already an extremely gifted fighter so if he gets a high output of nen to boot there's no telling what Hisoka can come up with

I think Phinks should be much more higher on the list. He's below Fietan and he's stronger than Uvogin. Uvogin is physically strong, but Phinks can exceed that. We've seen 1 ability of his and he always ends fights quickly. Nobunaga also should be higher. We don't know his abilities, but we can tell he's stronger than most of the members. I'd put him under Uvogin. Also I'd like to emphasize that Fietan was rusty against Zazaan and he defeated her which is why I think people underestimate Fietan. It's hard to accurately rank the members of the troupe because Togashi doesn't even make them fight that often, so there is a lot of unknowns like their abilities and combat prowess.

I think Feitan is VERY strong but I also that the community HIGHLY overrates him. Hes cool but people just latch on to him so strongly because of that. Again, he is for sure powerful as heck. I just wish people would dial it back a bit. It aint that deep. Uvogin is a BEAST but he literally fights someone who's ability is SPECIFICALLY tailored to beat him and the spiders. He had no shot especially without knowing he was 100% pre-countered. He was chosen because he was physically the strongest.

Being compare to Zeno Zoldyck is such a feat cuz Togashi himself put Zeno as 1 of the 7 Nen Masters, the Ultimate tier.

Chrollo was running the 1v2 against silva and Zeno who were trying their hardest to kill him, while he wasn’t trying his hardest to win due to him actively trying to fulfil the conditions to steal their abilities, he 100% scales above Zeno and silva, he doesn’t ‘scale to them’

Illumi doesn’t have the feats but for someone like Hisoka to treat him like his equal speaks a lot. Tho I initially thought that Feitan can match up to Illumi in combat, Illumi’s personality gives him the edge. Feitan is brutal and a sadist, but he’s not as warped and tricky as Illumi. Which makes him the worse, and stronger. Zeno and Silva don’t even control or command him and that speaks a lot. Hisoka in a way seemed to have found his match.

It just sucks that we have no feats with all the members.

Feitan under uvo is crazy

I would definitely give the top spot to Hisoka. One big thing Prof. forgot is that Hisoka had a SIGNIFICANT amp after his death due to the post mortem nen he activated. Post mortem nen is blatantly stated to be the most powerful vow you can do to amp an ability and the phantom troupe even let Kurapika go because they where to afraid that the pm-nen they would then trigger could be a much much bigger problem. Hisoka at the moment is a disgustingly efficient cheat code in nen by harnessing his post mortem nen and coming back to life keeping the amp. Chrollo holds a grudge against him and wants to kill him personally but I'm certain Hisoka should scale above Chrollo by now

I don't think theres much to suggest Gon and Killua from Greed Island or even Chimera Ant arc can beat Pakunoda individually. The feat of Killua breaking her arm and Gon kicking her was largely due to it being a surprise attack in the dark, as they shocked all the other troupe members as well.

Chrollo lucilfer 1 Hesoka morow 2 Omokage (non cannon) 3 Illumi zoldyck 3 Feitan portor 4 Uvogan 5 Phinks 6 Nobunaga 7 Machi 8 Franklin 9 Bonolenov 10 Shizuku 11 ??? 11? Shalnark 12 Kalluto 13 Pakunoda 14 Kortopi 15

Shalnark deeply underrated

Bro people be underestimating Phinks and Nobunaga and overestimating Feytan

Machi is definitely underrated. I feel like a lot of people forget that when Gon and Killua were at Heaven's Arena, Machi was the only one who could deduce and determine why Kastro lost, and Hisoka would have been in some trouble if Kastro picked up on Hisoka's trickery. In regards to nen understanding, brief instances like that are a testament to Machi's skill level when it comes to nen, and it seems like she is pretty proficient in nen which makes sense because she's a spider. Also, she was one of the only ones in the troupe to react to Killua and Gon's movements when they tried to sabotage the troupe and she was one of the only members to react quickly enough to place a needle on Chrollo when he was abducted by Kurapika.

I agree with most of fhe tiers even if I don't agree with the ranking within the tier, the only real exception being Nobu, I think based on reputation he scales to Uvo and I'd bump him up a tier because of that.

The thing about HxH (and part of what makes it interesting) is that it doesn't really have straight-up "power levels." Really extreme power differences can override everything else, but people can "punch above their weight class" just by having the right nen abilities and using them smartly.

Personal theory: Nobunaga is stronger than we think and will play a major part with Kurapika story. He is the only member whose Hatsu we don’t know. All we know is that it’s a simple ability (according to Shalnark) and he seems physically pretty weak for an enhancer, so logically his enhancement should go to his sword. So if he can enhance his sword enough to cut through Kurapika’s chains, that might be how the conclusion of Kurapika’s arc. Like there is no way Togashi would hide one single troupe member’s ability without a reason right?

Yeah, this is definitly a tier list made by a naruto fan

illumi is not afraid of hisoka. he just doesn't work for free

Huh. I hadn't given much thought to how easily Gon broke Illumi's arm at the beginning of the series. I guess Togashi-san hadn't yet defined the level of strenght Illumi would have.

1:06 Hisoka knocked her out before she could use her power, difference in aura wasn't the reason.

I'd like to see a video like this but with like the top 30 or something characters in general.