Project Fast Fish: Chrysler 318 Stroker Build

Project Fast Fish: Chrysler 318 Stroker Build - Pay-off

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318 to 349 stroker build - First Fires
Project Fast Fish - Season 1: Episode 6
Project Fast Fish is based on the restoration and modification of a Plymouth Barracuda.
This video features the first firings of our 318 to 349 stroker build. We’ve placed it on the engine stand and fired it up, but had a pesky obstacle in way.
We had a spare 318 engine that was once housed in the ‘73 Barracuda. This engine is close to the original concept for Project Fast Fish when the ‘Cuda was given to me on my 18th birthday.
A 318 with .030 over and a 3.58” stroke from the 360 crank equals 349 ci.
Our goal is to sell this stroker and use the proceeds to help build Project Fast Fish.
Oil filter housing:
Canton Racing 22-575 // amzn.to/3wFiafR
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0:17 - First Firing of Our MOPAR 318 Stroker and Problem
1:45 - Trouble Shooting
2:52 - More Trouble Shooting
5:18 - A Good Run

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@imken2392 3 жыл бұрын

hmm, I built a 318 stock stroke with shaved Indy LA-X heads, Zero deck, 10.5:1 with a comp XE-268H cam and it did 292 hp and 280 pound feet torque to the rear wheels on a chassis dyno. Very streetable.

@MicsMotorworx 3 жыл бұрын

Nice! Sounds like the buyer of the one we built will be in for a treat. Thanks for watching. 👍

@jonathanlawson4667 3 жыл бұрын

That's not very much horsepower for that much work in my opinion because there's many engines that would put down way better numbers just as easily

@stephenloughman4135 3 жыл бұрын

@@jonathanlawson4667 Agree..... did a recent 318 build, stock stroke, RPM manifold, magnum heads, 9.8 to 1 , 1.6 rockers yielding 512 lift at .050, Full tube headers. Produces 402 HP at 6300 at the crank. The smaller stroker they built had a bigger cam than the one I used and they are projecting less power.

@dahut3614 2 жыл бұрын

@I'm Ken Did you stay with the 1.92" intake valves because of the small bore of the 318?

@imken2392 2 жыл бұрын

@@dahut3614 Yes.Couldn't run the big valves without notching the cylinders. Valve shrouding is an issue.

@maximuswedgie5149 3 жыл бұрын

Love how my subtitles say “ applause “ when the motor is running. Very fitting. Great video 👍👍

@MicsMotorworx 3 жыл бұрын

😆 Haven't seen that. Thanks for the feedback and thanks for watching.

@AtZero138 3 жыл бұрын

Sounds good... cheers from Southern California Daily driver everyday and everywhere 318 1968 Dart..

@MicsMotorworx 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome on the Dart. Thanks for watching . 👍

@gwmax11 3 жыл бұрын

Very nice, that's a quick rev happy 318! Got one on the stand to build for a '66 formula S barracuda, lots of ideas.

@MicsMotorworx 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Check out the first 318 we built. A little beefier and even quicker with rotation. The intake swap on that one made a huge difference. Keep us posted on your project. 😀

@rickeymitchell8620 3 жыл бұрын

That little mill is running sweet and clean! Very nice build gentlemen.

@MicsMotorworx 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you and thanks for watching.

@Homecar220 3 жыл бұрын

Very nice! I’ll be rebuilding and stroking my stock 318 this winter. As long as the block is still solid! 🤞 My 1972 Charger has always been anemic.

@MicsMotorworx 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks. If you get a chance, don't hesitate to share an update with us. We'd love to see what folks are taking on for projects.

@Homecar220 3 жыл бұрын

@@MicsMotorworx Can do! I'll keep a detailed log of the parts used and hopefully get a chance to run it on a dyno and get some good results!

@1080sucks 3 жыл бұрын

i like how you show troubleshooting any issues.

@MicsMotorworx 3 жыл бұрын

We definitely made a mistake by overlooking that bypass valve. Although, the host did mention it to the guide 😆😎👍

@johnbehneman1546 Жыл бұрын

I LOVE IT!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH.

@MicsMotorworx Жыл бұрын

You're welcome.

@l1nz722 3 жыл бұрын

Love it well done from NZ

@MicsMotorworx 3 жыл бұрын

Much appreciated. Thanks for watching 👍

@FushaT 3 жыл бұрын

Had a factory 318 LA in my 68dart and used to spray the hell out of it w a 150 shot of nitrous. Had to go through four or five bottles of nitrous in a couple of months I sprayed it so damn much and finally pulled the engine out to put in the one that has now with the twin turbos but the 318s... bulletproof in my opinion

@MicsMotorworx 3 жыл бұрын

Nice. Yep. They are pretty stout.

@jacobmellow5278 2 жыл бұрын

Great videos! Can’t wait to rebuild my 318. Think I might have to copy what y’all did. That thing sounded amazing

@MicsMotorworx 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Let us know how it turns out.

@pyrrhus17 2 жыл бұрын

Man love the 318

@MicsMotorworx 2 жыл бұрын

We do too.

@marlinmaveric 3 жыл бұрын

Nice!

@MicsMotorworx 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Chris. Hopefully more to come soon. We have something big planned in the coming months.

@RaymondSolo 3 жыл бұрын

I had a Holly 600 on my old Camaro back in the 1980’s, I believe it was called the “economizer” back then.

@jonthomsen7433 Жыл бұрын

I built a few 318s back in the highschool. Compression and using a good roller cam really helped. Indys cast iron options really helped keep it budget friendly. Biggest carb I was able to run with my experience tuning was an 800cfm. Fun times

@MicsMotorworx Жыл бұрын

... and there's plenty of fun to be had.

@jonthomsen7433 Жыл бұрын

@@MicsMotorworx absolutely. The little ahits run pretty damn good

@JustMoparJoe 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Mic. I did a full build series like this with a 360. I am doing a 408 build in the next few weeks. Your videos have given me some good ideas on my stroker build.

@JustMoparJoe 3 жыл бұрын

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@MicsMotorworx 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching. I dig a lot of what you have going on. Showing the small detail work a lot of the channels miss. Looking forward to your future builds.

@JustMoparJoe 3 жыл бұрын

@@MicsMotorworx thanks brother. I hope both our videos inspire some folks to get out and build that engine!

@MicsMotorworx 3 жыл бұрын

We have a big NA build that will start filming in the next two weeks. We're going with more technical information for this round. It's all for the hobbyist, the enthusiast, and whoever. 👍

@timjensen440 2 жыл бұрын

I wish I had one that sounded that good. I'm getting my car built right now and I have a 318.

@MicsMotorworx 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Let us know how your project goes.

@larryhutchens7593 3 жыл бұрын

Good build with a lot of good videos. Engine sounds good & should run just fine. You need to work on the specifics of the build though. Most novice builders need to know some of the oddities of the MoPar small block as well as some of the common things on V-8 engines. Rocker arm shafts can be installed backwards, show how to do it. Rods: Bearing tangs go on same side of rod (together), large chamfer goes toward the crankshaft shoulder, oil squirt hole goes up towards the camshaft, stamped number goes downward so that it can be seen from the bottom. Crankshaft end play? Oil galley plug? The one in the vertical oil passage that forces the oil to go through the filter. Usually a machine shop job but can be overlooked if the shop isn't familiar with MoPar engines (Chevy & Ford work mostly). If overlooked there can be a lot of trash left in there or they can knock it our & forget to install a new one.

@1080sucks 3 жыл бұрын

Very few mention/know about that oil galley plug or show its removal/installation

@bongokaktus 3 жыл бұрын

had the same problem with my 360 . Should have listened to the seasoned vets originally. Ditched the high volume and replaced it with a mellings standard unit . Dont use hi volume or hi pressure pumps unless you are running extreme clearances for racing . The factory oil system works extremely well as it was intended

@MicsMotorworx 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Charlie. We overlooked the pressure blow-off spring assembly on the pump. It was an OEM unit; but because we didn't "go over" the spring and plate assembly, we had that issue. The hi-volume Melling was a great choice. Thanks for watching.

@dahut3614 2 жыл бұрын

From the Crane catalog, cam is 232/242 @ 0.050" 114° centerline, with 504"/528" lift- just to put things in perspective, because advertised duration seems to be measured in all kinds of cockamamie ways!

@MicsMotorworx 2 жыл бұрын

That's what went into the 390. The info I presented came from the cam card and assumed 1.5 ratio rockers. Here's a link from Summit Racing. www.summitracing.com/parts/crn-694561

@TheJoedude02 3 жыл бұрын

BABY CHEAPSTER STROKER!!!! I built one with a 5.2L magnum. Got a few idle clips on my channel

@rxlo1062 3 жыл бұрын

👍👍👍

@franciscoromero1581 3 жыл бұрын

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

@sweetsketch3 3 жыл бұрын

I wanna build one. Or find one to scrap together,. I bought a 1955 dodge custom royal lancer with no motor and trying to decide what I can affordably put into it. That sounds great! Nice work

@MicsMotorworx 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks. That project of yours sounds like a fine pairing. Let us know how the project goes.

@frigglebiscuit7484 3 жыл бұрын

5.2/5.9 magnum.

@GrantOakes 2 жыл бұрын

#1 rule when you rebuild an engine, REPLACE THE OIL PUMP!

@MicsMotorworx 2 жыл бұрын

Lesson learned.

@bryanworth8292 3 жыл бұрын

Sweet sounding motor but you gotta put some prettier valve covers on it .

@MicsMotorworx 3 жыл бұрын

Lol. Since we're selling it, we'll leave that up to the next owner. ;) Thanks for watching.

@setha360 3 жыл бұрын

Did you polish the cam lifters after dialing in the timing 20 minutes at 2000 rpm, unless its a roller cam, also ditch the thermostat to fill the block with water for initial startup runup

@MicsMotorworx 3 жыл бұрын

Not sure about that process. We're pretty confident the right process and procedures were used. Although, there are a lot of ideas out there on what's needed. Keep in mind the lifters and cam were previously used in the same block. Temps were closely monitored. Half and half coolant. Thanks for watching.

@StrikersLG 3 жыл бұрын

So if I remember correctly you used Silvolite 1278-030 pistons for this build. Could I ask you if you cut the top of the piston down any? I know you had to clearance the bottom for the counter weights but I can't remember if you cut any off the top to lower compression. Then could I also ask you if you remember what the compression ratio was on this build?

@MicsMotorworx 3 жыл бұрын

Hey StikersLG. Good question. There wasn't a need to shave the pistons. Other than the clearance for the down-stroke, there wasn't any other issue since the compression height was 1.658" compared to 1.72" of the stock 318. On paper, the folks from this forum estimated a pretty aggressive compression ratio. Keep in mind, our build used pistons with height and we went with factory style gaskets. www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/threads/349-ci-on-the-cheap.19556/

@andretorben9995 2 ай бұрын

Really curious what sort of valve to piston clearances you ended up with given you are using fully flat top pistons. Apparently running a 232/242 @50 camshaft duration.

@MicsMotorworx 2 ай бұрын

Sure. I left the parts list in each build video. I can't recall the clearance from the top of my head. However, the pistons were key for clearance. The wrist pin bore were in a different location in the pison than the factory ones.

@karlinathan 3 жыл бұрын

I'm having similar ideas for my 65 barracuda('64.5 valiant fast back) commando 273 factory engine swap to a 318 /360 hybrid with 2.02 valve J heads ld4b aluminum intake, etc...

@MicsMotorworx 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome! Let us know how it goes. Thanks for watching.

@JayGuitars1 3 жыл бұрын

You guys ever built a motor before?

@MicsMotorworx 3 жыл бұрын

That's funny. The speaker, not really. The old man, quite a few. The younger guy, quite a bit. The context here was building from what was available from the hobbiest perspective. Thanks for watching.

@skeets6060 2 жыл бұрын

What do you figure the HP and Torque are for this beast ?

@MicsMotorworx 2 жыл бұрын

A little north of 350 for both. Someone posted about having a similar combination together and creating good numbers at the rear wheels with "streetable" results.

@acardiac5983 2 жыл бұрын

Will a 318 block from 93’ fit in a 75 dart

@MicsMotorworx 2 жыл бұрын

A Magnum should fit right in.

@Ollywood00 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, you will need to use a LA oil pan and motor mounts

@Anarchy-Is-Liberty Жыл бұрын

You can fit anything into anything else, if you use the gears in your head!

@nelsonsandovaljr7047 2 жыл бұрын

I have a 96 dodge Dakota with a 318, what’s the price range to do this to my truck?

@MicsMotorworx 2 жыл бұрын

Most of the part numbers are in the descriptions of the build. The only thing not listed was the crank.

@jayirving6996 3 жыл бұрын

How hard are you twisting your 318 stroker? I wanna goto 7000-7500..

@MicsMotorworx 3 жыл бұрын

Not that high with this one. 😉👍 Maybe on one for racing... The kind that we're going feature in a month or two.

@acardiac5983 2 жыл бұрын

And does a 904 trans bolt up to a 318?

@MicsMotorworx 2 жыл бұрын

It should.

@acardiac5983 2 жыл бұрын

Is the bell housing the same if it originally came with a slant 6? I’m wanting to swap the /6 for a 318 and does the K member need to be swapped or is there different motor mounts that can be used?

@MicsMotorworx 2 жыл бұрын

We don't know off the top of our head. We'd have to look into that.

@Greasyoldmopars 2 жыл бұрын

Yea as long as it's a small block trans

@tl5108 Жыл бұрын

I believe the slant has a different bell housing pattern

@Walkercolt1 3 жыл бұрын

Hate to say it , but a 5.2 L Magnum block and heads gives you so much more for your un-leaded gas money. Me and Hughes Engines took a 5.2, stroked and bored it to 352 CID and made an RV torque monster trailer puller from it.Saved a TON of money not stoking it to 360 for the price of the forged billet crank, like 3grand! The Dakota never knew the difference in 8 or 9 CID and neither did my 18 foot RV trailer.Magnum heads, a dual plane intake and long tube headers are the street combo for today's un-leaded swill. You can SAFTELY pull 43* of advance with port fuel injection, in a "Fish get 25+ MPG and close to 400 REAL WORLD CRANK HP and more than 400 ft/lbs of rear-wheel torque with a Dana. Very hard to do with a "B" block. for the same number of Benjamins. You get roller cams with a Magnum block too. You can pick up a lunched Magnum in a salvage yard for $150 everyday of the week. Running ones for $250. Locked-up "B"'s go for 5 bills around here...when you can find them.

@MicsMotorworx 3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a solid build for a viewer to consider. There's a lot of good information and ideas around. Thanks for watching. 👍

@frigglebiscuit7484 3 жыл бұрын

look man, i looove magnums, but really? hard to get 400hp/ft lbs from a big block b motor? LOL. you have to try not to make more hp than that on a stock type rebuild of a smoggy big block. my stock compression 400 makes an easy 400+hp, and probably around 450+ ft lbs, all for the price of a basic rebuild, cam, headers, and intake.

@MicsMotorworx 3 жыл бұрын

Nice!

@tl5108 Жыл бұрын

@@frigglebiscuit7484 yeah idk what he’s talking about. Any run of the millB/RB should be able to make 400HP without much trouble

@YODAMAN5 5 ай бұрын

AWESOME build. Sounds good, Whats the $$$$$$$$ cost to the customer....MOPAR 4 EVER.

@MicsMotorworx 5 ай бұрын

We listed it for $7K. Sold it for around $6K.

@larryburns4605 2 жыл бұрын

What about break in of cam

@MicsMotorworx 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Larry. A few people asked about that. We did not film the break-in process. Be assured, we had it covered.

@MoparMan-ff8fb 3 жыл бұрын

I would say 375 HP or more since its a stroker

@MicsMotorworx 3 жыл бұрын

Under promise and over deliver. 😁

@karlsracing8422 3 жыл бұрын

6° is way low for that cam, probably be happier at 14+ at idle.

@MicsMotorworx 3 жыл бұрын

Cool. Perhaps. We didn't want to degree it, but the future owner is more than welcome to change the timing and ignition system. Thanks for watching ;)

@josephyazbeck6102 3 жыл бұрын

GENTLEMEN....IT'S FANTASTIC HARMONIOUS SOUND .... I'M SURE YOU DOING VERY WELL... REALLY YOU ARE (GENIOUS)... MY QUESTION... IS DO YOU HAVE A MOPAR ENGINES 360 CI OR 340 CI (PERFORMANCE)ENGINES .. AROUND (500) HORSEPOWER.... READY FOR SALE...???? HOW MUCH DOES THE ENGINE COST??? THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR YOUR COOPERATION.... WAITING FOR YOUR REPLY AS SOON AS POSSIBLE..... GOOD LUCK.

@MicsMotorworx 3 жыл бұрын

Joseph. Thank you for watching. Here's the listing for 349 build featured on the channel. www.ebay.com/itm/Renewed-Turn-key-Chrysler-LA-Small-Block-Stroker-/124429210670 We have a build estimated to be close to the power range you're looking for, but it will be going into the Barracuda as we get the restoration (resto-mod) process going. Thank you again.

@scottmckeighan1201 3 жыл бұрын

Stuck bypass

@MicsMotorworx 3 жыл бұрын

Yup. That was the problem. Thanks for watching 👍

@mrkemblegilstrap 3 жыл бұрын

Everybody take a shot every time he goes...uh

@MicsMotorworx 3 жыл бұрын

Lol. Uh.. We're learning as we go. Being in front of the small camera isn't part of our regular or every day jobs.

@mrkemblegilstrap 3 жыл бұрын

@@MicsMotorworx uh great uh answer! I uh love uh mopar. I'm glad uh i uh got here uh when uh i uh did uh. See? We can sharpen up your tv personality. As you probably know tv magnifies everything. How 'bout this? Relax. Take the time it takes to chose yor next words. It only takes mili seconds. We would rather have that, than to believe anything anyone has to say about anything, that stutters like, UH, that. You're a good sport and i love your commitment to mopar. Keep making videos to inspire future generations. I think if you mash on my thumbnail you can see a vid i made a long time ago. If ya want, ck it out and give me some comments! You can't hurt my feelings cuz I've already been married twice, lol!

@tomreyn3610 3 жыл бұрын

Why would you buy a $900 crankshaft to build a 350, when you could have put that money into a 360 build? A cam and air gap intake intake in a Magnum 360 would make more sense.

@MicsMotorworx 3 жыл бұрын

😁 Great thought! We happened to have it hanging around; along with a block, connecting roads, push rods, heads and intake. The idea was utilizing what we had, build something unique, and sell it to fundraise for Project Fast Fish. Thanks for watching.

@tomreyn3610 3 жыл бұрын

Tried starting at what I thought was the beginning. Guess I missed all that part.

@jamesbriggs3092 3 жыл бұрын

give us the results, the numbers.

@MicsMotorworx 3 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, we can only guess as we don't have access to an engine dynamometer. Bench and internet calculators predict 350+ hp and equal torque.

@blown572hemi Жыл бұрын

Why a high volume oil pump on a mostly stock engine? You're old school carb sizing will lose you power too. Stock cam? Why assemble an stroker with a stock cam and non magnum head's? Good luck selling this.

@MicsMotorworx Жыл бұрын

Ya might want to start at video 1 of the build. Thanks for watching.

@dwaynehagle7445 3 жыл бұрын

Never ,Never ,Never use a high volume oil pump .High pressure yes no high volume unless you have stupid large bearing clerances.

@MicsMotorworx 3 жыл бұрын

Cool. Appreciate that. Ours ran fine and pressure was normal. Pop ran a high volume pump for years in the 318 and had no issues with it. Not sure high pressure would work what we were building toward. Again, we appreciate the input. Thanks for watching.

@darrenbrisson4336 3 жыл бұрын

Yo dude um you been living under a rock ord are you more into gm and Ford's because every other mopar guy on the planet knows you go with a mancini hi volume race pump from mancini racing biggest mopar parts dealer hamburger mopar parts

@MicsMotorworx 3 жыл бұрын

Lol. Thanks. As a hobbiest, I like to think I appreciate a lot of makes and models. There is a soft spot for the old school MOPAR. We're aware of Mancini. Pop "overlooked" the high-pressure blow off valve when he rebuilt and cleaned the oil pump, which happens sometimes. We went with Melling per the price and reputation.