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Elder maul should get a 2x accuracy roll for crush. Just like the fang, but for crush.

I wouldn't be opposed to the Eternal boots getting some of that Occult magic %

Regarding the changing of Defence of monsters to have them lean more into niches, I feel Gargoyles was an excellent example on their end. Cause when I first got to that point, I was curious of what they would be weak to and I think I read somewhere that they were weak to crush. So I felt like it would be right to bring something like a Leaf Bladed Battleaxe on crush. But then found out later that a Whip or even the D-Scim would be better DPS when I did the calcs, so that was a bit disappointing

I’d like to see the elder maul become 5 tick, scythe would still outclass it completely but at least it would become a usable mega rare

The npc defence rebalancing sounds extremely reasonable, I'd love any excuse to diversify my gear when pvming, especially slayer. It gently encourages the roleplay aspect of the game, and I think that's something that's underappreciated by a lot of the playerbase now that efficiency is so important to most people.

I think run energy does need something done but only for f2p and early levels. It takes like 12 mins to fully restore at that level and its a big turn off for brand new players

This video was really great, well prepared and everything! And thank you for having a soothing voice and not screaming like many OSRS youtubers do

people calling this EoC have zero idea what eoc was, or why it was a major quit moment for many of us. voidwaker being different in PvM & PvP is them making the same mistakes again with splitting the two player bases, mage def split feels really exciting for early / mid game mage blogpost has more good then bad in it so Im fine with it

I think one of the biggest things about making magic and range styles is that it could make any given weapon have a niche somewhere. suddenly give blowpipe a completely different stat from bofa and they perform better in different areas.

Great ideas! I agree with almost all things you have said

+15 for slash isn't enough to make scythe viable anywhere new in the current meta

Ok a couple things: I think the 1-max hit revamp needs to be polled, then beta tested, and then polled again because that could be a huge change. The fang nerf opens the door for buffs for other end game items by having a double accuracy roll item for each attack style like the Blade of Saeldor for slash and Inquisitors Mace for crush. Low level prayers just simply need new effects like a flat stat boost to make them useful, and I do actually think this matters because low level PK pures will find uses for the prayers and highlights the power and need to train prayer for new/low level players. Concerning the new typing for range and magic I think that’s great. I think this can be implemented in a way that doesn’t get rid of the oldschool feel of this game while adding new metas and making useless range and mage items fun to use. Jagex isn’t proposing adding new items, simply reviving dead content, imagine as a lower level player finding out you can utilize spell weaknesses rather than just grinding the next fire spell, or anti pking fire surge pkers with water surge? I think in general a lot of these changes could be really fun and add to the depth of this game without ruining what we already have.

For inquisitor, you should be able to fortify it with justiciar armor components to beef it up a little like masori. It's also thematically consistent. I think your resistance to changing 0 hits on successful accuracy checks and more forgiving run energy lacks empathy for truly new player's experiences. Those are two of the most needlessly annoying things to deal with, especially within the first few hours of playing for the first time. Walking is a forced loading time, it could at least be more forgiving for people who want to quest early in the game. Even if it's just a rest option.

This is going to be a huge step of OSRS, I can't wait to see how it turns out

I really hope the salad blade gets some kind of buff to fill the void of a nerfed fang. I’ve used both at Vardorvis and hate using the blade there.

Slayer definitely needs a 97 level boss and 99

If they don’t make the scythe effective on 2x2 I don’t think it will ever compare to the Tbow and shadow

i think they would need to make bloodfury use 1 charge per every scythe swing so it can be more usable that combo and become cheaper and more reliable too

love the vids man

buffing the mace and the other two of the 4t trio by +3 str bonus and +5 attack bonus would do quite nicely imo. especially as they were t75 weapons on release and are now t80.

Yes! I've been saying for years that the skill guide isn't a guide. Having a skill guide that doesn't require you to immediately google the OSRS wiki 15 seconds later every time should be an integral part of gameplay.

I'm so excited for the rework on the axe. Currently 2/4 hunting rings and axe pieces 😍

Kinda hoped for a defence ignore effect on the scythe like the brimstond ring does but it would roll every swing 25% 75% 1 single target option wouldve been nice aswell 😅 Fang shouldve reduced accuracy since it rolls 2 times anyway is weird to see the fang out dpses scythe at places like bandos krill

What do you think about having the fang become a 2h weapon? I'm curious if the dps loss would balance it enough.

No longer hitting 0s on successful hits is MASSIVE and is such a good change. No longer "missing" BGS and DWH specs when you actually hit, thank god.

For the subset defenses that's something id figure would probably be an rs3 thing since this would also be a good point to add a strength stat for both as well. That game has a lot more freedom in these things and that game base is way more open to new shit. But if these things were a thing in osrs that'd be some interesting builds.

I wish the wiki was implemented into the actual game more, it has so much useful info that the "everyday" player easily misses.

Left-field suggestion, but what if the soul-reaper could be imbued with barrows melee armor for their respective effects. Could tie lore in with a more fun effect and bring relevance back to barrows armor in a more freeing way.

Not a fan of the occult nerf , yes the item itself is very cheap but it require 93 slayer to get when you can leach cox at low combat and get ancestral anyway

After 17 years on this game, the soul reaper is going to get buffed and sky rocket in price.

Weapon changes should be like this Scythe Give it something similar to fang's accuracy rolls but on the 2nd and/or 3rd hit. Example: If 1st dmg misses, reroll for 2nd hit, if 2nd hit miss, reroll for 3rd hit. Fang Just remove the slash option altogether Voidwaker Leave it alone Elder maul New effect called executioner If opponent is less than 10% hp and that amount of hp equals to maul's max hit, then maul will do a max hit. Soulreaper axe Not sure, so no comment Ancient godsword Leave it alone tbh

I agree with the skilling page redesign. It feels crammed for herblore where they do include the information you’re asking for and definitely lacking information in most other places.

Honestly I'd like to see virus get a buff. Something to the effect of having the ancient magics damage boost apply to charge staff autos as long as you're on ancients.

Honestly, everything you said in this video sounds great, and all of these rebalancing topics need to be addressed. Let’s just hope they communicate with the player-base, and do it the right way. 😃👍🏼👍🏼 - Machinist_2

Instead of nerfing occult, nerf shadows triple dmg but keep the accuracy. If they do nerf occult add the dmg % to prayers instead.

I'm sure it's been mentioned - sub stats for range/mage exists in RS3 and i think logically it makes sense (and adds reward space). Only thing RS3 had to balance for magic with elemental spells is ensuring all 4 spells on a tier deal equal damage (eg, wind strike and fire strike share the same dps potential). This would require a change in OSRS, otherwise a wind-spell weak NPC would be sacrificing dps. Also how would non-spell magic weapons work like Trident and Shadow? As for run energy, it's one of the 2 big reasons I don't enjoy OSRS outside of leagues - I don't think its removal would be good either, but I think essentially requiring staminas for a good gamepaly experience is bad and 'patching it' with pools isn't a healthier solution than just not requiring them.

I didn't explain my concerns on 0s and run energy well on video so i've cut that out & clarified these below. Appreciate the comments, helped me word this better. 0s gone from accurate rolls is actually not a small change to your damage at all. It's actually way stronger than it sounds especially on higher end pvm items like scythe for ex. would multiply that extra damage several times for free as it rolls 3 times per hit or weapons that are extremely fast like BP. However, It is weird to not know which 0s are hits, but I'm sure there's a better way to indicate this without giving out free damage - maybe different hit splat color. Also, some way to roll less 0s on low level account stages that feels natural is fine too as i do believe it would improve the early game experience. Also regarding running - I'm talking bout the running system, the thing jagex wants to revamp. Agility isn't the running system - it's merely a part of the system. Jagex saying a revamp to run isn't the same as we're guna tweak the agility skill to improve running. They didn't give us any ideas as to how. Logically it does sound like it'd be related to agility. Improving run through actual content like making agility positively affect run more is fine. I'm just concerned about the actual running system as a whole because it sounds like it's way more than simply buffing agility. I would simply not want an overhaul to the system if they don't have a concrete plan.

Idk why you're getting so many dislikes, you're a G for posting this. Great vid as always.

what they said about inquisitor is vague, do you think they'll buff it or make the drops more common¿?

I find it funny how many people hold onto to "the old school feel" even though the game today would be unrecognizable to someone that played in 2007. Updates are good and healthy for the game, if they didn't add new things or change the tedious things, the game would've been dead on arrival. Old School isn't old school anymore, it's its own thing now.

The issue with anicent godsword in pvp is that fact that when you spec its a guaranteed 50 hp swing ( 25 heal and 25 damage ) on top of the damage you're already doing with the spec . Seeing how they address the spec attack will he interesting

Did they put a timeline on the skilling stuff ? Bc I dont wanna touch them on my iron if exp hours will be better lol

Good , its time for change

estimate on how long till this update releases?

Did he just say volcanic mine was in zeah? hafufufu hafufufu

I'm only 20 minutes in and as usual I agree with you on nearly everything and appreciate your take. However, in regards to the low level prayers and new accounts hitting too many 0's, you need to try and put yourself in the perspective of the average new player. They don't understand gear/stat progression, they don't know to rush overheads, they don't even know what those things are or if it exists in this game. Some of those low level prayers literally do nothing except drain your prayer points, that's not an exaggeration, they do not provide any benefit. I also recently introduced a friend to the game and although I gave him some useful tips I didn't want to take away from the new player experience. He immediately was interested in training combat but the constant 0's he was hitting lead him to genuinely believe something was wrong. I explained how to train strength, attack, and defense and what each stat did, his intuition lead him to start leveling attack to handle the awful feeling of having a difficult time killing a rat. Eventually I showed that strength levels would have a bigger impact on his accuracy, despite everything I just explained. My point is just that these changes do have a significant impact on a large number of players. It's not a waste of dev time to make the game feel better and work properly for new players. I'm not saying jagexs proposed changes are the BEST way to fix the issue, but they have identified a real issue.

If they changed magic defense to be resistant/weak to fire, wind, water, and earth - what would happen with the ancient spell book (ice, smoke, blood, shadow)?

The rolling 0 on an accuracy roll that you hit on, I think if done right would be amazing. I know a lot of people say overpowered but if they redo the defense values where its more unlikely to hit on the defense of monsters then it would even out on high level pvm but be amazing for low defense targets and low level training.

I think the rebalancing enemy defences is needed, they're a mess, they have been for years. Most of these monsters still have defences from when the devs barely had a clue wtf they were doing. Hell I've also been wishing for them to add some more special bonuses/defences to enemies for years too, imagine something like Gargoyles taking more damage from granite weaponry, that's just cool, I don't see what's wrong with that... Or dragon weaponry doing more damage to dragons, why tf not, it's just going to give noobs some nice potential bonuses against specific enemy types that won't do enough to unbalance endgame

W takes in this vid

My idea for the voidwaker: Make the special use melee strength and magic accuracy. Tankable with ranged armor, counterable because people will probably spec in robes.

I was gutted that efaritays aid did nothing against vardovis, allow it to negate the amount of damage he would heal from his attacks to speed up kills for players with lesser gear. If you have good gear, you're still likely to be maining the bellator, ultor or lightbearer and at least efaritays aid serves a niche purpose - unless the vampire line in the morytania quests is continued then perhaps it serves a purpose there. and I'd love to see elder maul basically work as a raids 1 fang, let it absoutely bang in raids, with it being a megarare its certainly worth it. Also HARD agree on the whole of nightmare getting love, rather than just the mace, some great ideas in this video and hopefully some of them get taken on board!

The occult was never overpowered before shadow, sang with max mage was still worse than melee and ranged by far, 10% magic damage if multiplied by such low damage magic used to do is not alot, its like 3 maxhits only problem is when u multiply the occult bonus by 3 times with shadow. Feels bad for everyone who doesnt have max mage and a shadow.

Volcanic Mine is on Fossil Island, not zeah

I disagree with him saying keep new weakness to new monsters everything needs to be added to everything just make them all make sense

I think with a skilling description would be nice for new players. ALTHOUGH, I feel like a lot of tic manipulation and other methods are found because players go there there not knowing if its afk, or high intensive. They just figure out new ways of training.

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About the minimum of 1 on a succesful hit, as Jagex stated, this is mostly geared towards low level players. On a succesful hit, your average damage will be increased by .5. Percentage wise, a very small increase with higher max hits. But it's pretty significant for low levels. I would loved if you focused your critique more on that.

I think Slayer could really use a boss-only slayer master. Even if it has stupidly difficult requirements like sacrificing an inferno cape + quest cape + 99 slayer. The entire point would be to make slayer more competitive with grindy money-print content like Nex or raids for endgame/near-endgame players. I kinda regret that I skipped a lot of skills, diaries, and quests when I started focusing more on PVM. Most of the highlights in my overall journey in osrs revolve around setting my eye on unlocking a specific bit of content with OP rewards. Even though I rushed raid content in midgame, grinding the requirements to access highly rewarding content like CG/Vorkath/muspah made me feel the most accomplished. I genuinely miss feeling like there's some OP content to unlock if I only just progress my account. A boss-task only slayer master with near-endgame requirements would scratch that itch for a ton of players. Most of my time with slayer in endgame is spent hunting for boss tasks anyway, so its just taking my desired content and making it more consistently available. This would also be extremely efficient with the combat achievement diary. Players would be incentivized to visit obscure or lower level bosses (like wildy demi-bosses and deranged archiologist). Maybe its my ADHD, but I had a hell of a time motivating myself to snatch up these easy combat achievements, especially when I could accomplish most my CA goals by just challenging myself in content I already know I enjoy. The other synergy between boss slayer and CA is that CA rewards increase your boss task size limit. I think that using slayer as an excuse to clean up those random CA challenges would feel like a really satisfying grind because of it's multiple angles of progression. Idk. Bossing via slayer is one of my favorite ways to spend an afternoon on osrs. I just tend to raid and stuff more these days because the rewards make it more worth my time.

I dont think stamina effects run duration like you said in the video. It is something they mentioned in the blog. Agility doesn't do anything until you stop running and tnen it only makes your energy regen faster.

Guthix rest is even better than that. it also cures venom

Occult being 10% is not an issue. The occult being 10% has NEVER been an issue until the shadow came out. Nerfing the occult does nothing but hurt early game magic . Nerf the shadow that’s the issue

I personally also think that they should REALLY get rid of the arbitrary tick-delay when auto-casting spells. It makes using spells in high-intensity combat like modern bosses and raids, completely unviable.

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The ancient gs spec in pvp isn't over powered and is a stupid change, if you run away a few tiles you won't even be hit by the healing special. Similar to nex blood phase red turning special. With the price and rare drop rate it is dumb to change when ags/vw is still mostly used and ags hits 75+ and not even based on gear* can be speced out by a guy in lunar with str amulet 70+ lol.

I don't think making successful hits do a guaranteed 1 minimum is anywhere near as big of a deal as you made it out to be. Jagex is right on both points. Misses and minimum hits shouldn't both be displayed as 0s.

Vardorvis is gonna be aids now without a scythe

I regret not buying a scythe at 350m, I'm sure many people do

I don't really agree with keeping 0s on a successful hit. Sure you get more range as you level but with some content needing damage checks (looking at you Akkha), you still can just get whiffed by 0s because RNG can just decide to fuck you over.

just a comment about your soulreaper axe suggestions: it would be perfect changes when it comes to pvm, but that would completely destroy pvp as these changes would be waaaaaaaaaaay too overpowered

Voidwaker i would say the nerf is possibly a good thing. As is i was opposed to it coming to the game, with my previous experience pre-eoc. I am largely a PVP related player. Voidwaker spec is hard to beat as far as desirability in a spec weapon. A nerf could help bring back a bit more versatility in special weapons. AGS2, this weapon in pvp is huge for outlast setups. Especially paired up with a lightbearer. As well the 25 hit, upon a successful hit, is something that can easily be stacked upon with another special/hit. It's a very powerful weapon to have. That being said, you pretty much have to go for the outlast or stacking people out(simply rng dependant). Or have to risk even more to be able to use another KO weapon. It should stay as it is in my opinion. Nerfing it would just make it used less than it is.

I wish they’d revamp Kandarin diary to remove BA. That minigame is worse than any skill.

Voidwaker isn’t a pressing issue… *PvP community enters the chat*

5:36 you mean the "fang" will dominate?

I wouldnt be a fan of Jagex separating the skilling tab into groups based on effort they require as that seems a bit gimmicky, but I do think it would be good if there was a description of activities like zalcano, mlm, blast mine ect which gives a brief overview of the activity that includes its intensity. Perhaps an info box or a click to expand sort of thing on each major activity in the skill tab. While they're at it I think they should remove the level up chat pop-ups which interrupts skilling and get auto skipped when in combat, and replace them with a link in your chat that shows you what you unlocked with the level up when you click it. The way it is right now is too easy to miss, and doesn't do a good job of directing new players to the skill tab and or wiki. This could be in addition to the pop-ups actually to avoid removing something that is nostalgic, but I do think that a clickable link in the game chat would be a big improvement!

I think run should be like league except when in combat make it stay the same

As a 1 def pure I definitely think scythe needs accuracy buff I’ve done duke over 1k times and only a few times have I gotten close to my pb which is 1:43

The soul reaper axe is fundamentally shit. Nobody likes chip damage

disagree on your take with 0 roll, a benefit of this change is it gives the player a more accurate representation and feel of your accuracy. The fact you could roll 5 0's in a row and have actually passed the accuracy check on any without the player knowing it not great imo. That or give the a red 0 hit splat

If/when they rebalance Nightmare, they need to also fix the absurd botting problem, can't imagine even 5% of nightmare drops come into the game from regular non-iron players

VM in zeah?

Substats for range and magic just feels like eoc/rs3. Why complicate it? This is old school.

Buff the Rapier!

Why not just change successful 0's to red instead of all 0's being blue.

i just weante overlaodes added so i can brwe and stayforever at boesses...

Whats the argument against removing 0s from successful attack rolls? You say it would be nice on the spec weapons for the exact same reason it would open up the early game to be that little bit more engaging/welcoming to new players. I imagine an across the board(as opposed to just specific weapons) application would be the more sensible and less enigmatic functionality. As opposed to having to fact find for the weird function of, "even if you hit, you can miss". I don't see it having a negative impact on snowflake accounts either, but I may be underinformed on that front. No hate, just legitimately curious if there is a reason you felt that way. Good content as always!

34:15 I could not disagree more. The skill page, like the in-game quest guide, is intentionally vague. Before we had the Wiki we just unlocked new levels or content, and engaged with them. If we didn't like it, we moved on. I remember being STOKED in 2005 to unlock Rune weaponry to be able to wield the battleaxe. I used it for a while until I got my Rune Scim and realized it was better than the baxe so I swapped weapons. That organic progression is integral to the MMO experience. The game guide doesn't need to tell us which content is higher/lower effort or which gear is better than others. Players need to be able to discover that for themselves. 35:10 The way for them to know if Volcanic mine is good for them is to do the volcanic mine lmfao. Do it for an hour, compare exp rates, if it sucks then move on. There's WAY too much handholding in this game already

I really don't like the argument/point of not re balancing NPC stat weaknesses due to "how we remember killing bosses". Nostalgia is hardly a thing anymore in this game and technically only exists in graphics alone. I don't remember bofa 5/0'ing Bandos, Ancestral+Shadow camping Kree, using a Fang on Corp, or Scythe slapping bosses. The changes we've made in this game have changed how we kill these "iconic nostalgic" bosses, and should be changed accordingly if needed to keep everything balanced.

Instead of extra defensive stats for ranged and magic, just have new monsters be damaged better from certain damage styles, like how spears work at corp. There isnt a reason to overcomplicate it.

Give select truly “dead” content to f2p

tell them to fix crafting

Nothing wrong with wanting every monster to have resists (especially when Jagex specified you'd still be able to kill them in similar manners to current day). It adds a lot more usability/diversity and would be inconsistent with anything new if they only added it to new monsters. Its also very nice to be able to see when you actually roll a hit rather than a "true 0".

so after they do these changes and add a new skill, then the only thing that would even be left of OLD SCHOOL runescape would be the graphics? whats the point of all of this? sure theres small balancing problems, but how many games have perfectly balanced combats? theres easy fixes to most of these issues, but they are just making a huge deal where theres only a small issue. for the defence thing, all they would have to do is give future content specific weaknesses to certain elemental magics or specific range ammo types. same with adding a new skill, theres no point. yea, some people feel like the games becoming stale after so long, but that happens for every other game too. they could easily make sailing into a minigame or even a player owned port thing like rs3 has. but instead theyre using new content as an excuse to force new skills and major "balancing" changes into an old game that doesnt really need it.

The least based thing in the entire video is the bit about run energy. Run energy management has been an issue no matter what agility level you are. It needs fixing. Even if you don't personally think so, it shows that people vastly prefer being actually able to properly play to game over chugging stams all day. Look at leagues! How many people roasted eachother for not picking the run relic in the first one. They literally made every league after have infinite run energy for a reason. Because guess what? It's fun to not be asthmatic, regardless of your agility level.

Progression solves it but it's still to slow for new players. If your a veteran player it's hard to understand how hard this game is to get into

Conceptionally the soul reaper axe should just be more damage deal for more damage taken. At least that's what it seemed like Jagex was trying to do. Instead they made an absurdly niche item which is unrewarding to use. I suggest they just make it so when you use the soul reaper axe you just take more damage, like 10-15% or something, instead of the charge mechanic. Sort of like when you use that new prayers in leagues. Those prayers feel dangerous enough to use it for their power, but it's at least more consistent. This weird "charge" mechanic is punishing to use but all for the wrong reason; It's punishing because it's a nuisance to use it, not because it's "high risk high reward" It doesn't allow you to change in to other weapons like special attack weapons at all, which is stupid imo. And if that was the point, (to not be able to use special attack weapons), first of all... why? And second of all; You could have just drained the special attack bar or something while you equip it, instead of this weird ass yanky charge thing.

seems a bit biased. I would like an unbiased opinion if doing these more in the future

IMO, the def changes don't belong in OSRS. Part of OSRS' popularity is that it is extremely easy to understand/learn the basics, while having an infinitely high skill ceiling. If I wanted to play a tedious RPG I would go play POE, WoW, or another MMO with very indepth item/skill distribution. On weapons. Scythe does not need to always be BIS, same goes for TBow/Shadow. This obsession with making Scythe always BIS is going to make the game really boring. Adding new BIS, does not remove how good the current items are. It's not like their stats are being lowered. EDIT Agility. Omg I hate gracefulscape. I've gotten 99 agility twice. RS3's near infinite run energy/resting is better than OSRS's run energy. I would rather they just remove the skill and make running infinite.

RS3 has shown how to rework mining but the OS community would rather die than admit something is good in RS3