Man i bougjt my first full suspect yesterday. Feels like a dream

Still saving for mine

Nah hardtail peak mtb 🤙

@@Melonator13 i prefer hardtails too

I wish I have a cycle

And what's more, based on data from my power meter, you only burn 30% less calories on an ebike vs non-assisted cycling.

​@@AndrewEblingwhat's really nice is you burn as many calories as you need to! The reality of using a bike for commuting is that you might be late, you might be tired, there might be any number of reasons you're behind. And an ebike helps you with that. Especially if you want to flow with city traffic better. I will say for city street use at some point we do need some kind of safety course requirement or license.

​@@tanakax25I had to ride a normal bike up 3 giant hills to get to and from work in the middle of the night as a teenager. I got into insanely good shape, and was proud of my ability, but if I had the option for an e-bike I would've taken it in a heartbeat 😂 Showing up to work sweaty and already tired sucks. And then having to grind your way all the way back home after an 8 hour shift sucks even worse

@@GlorifiedGremlin right! I love biking, but I'm not up for that EVERY DAY. And even when I think I am up for it, I get a shitty day that tires me out.. or I'm late coming in, or the wind is against me, or I have to tackle a couple hills like you said. My favorite part of having an ebike right now is going through grass fields since my area doesn't have many bike trails. I just roll over bumpy tall grass fields with ease. On my normal MTB that would be EXHAUSTING

Yeah bikes are a good time I usually enjoy my commute Morning cardio and all that Usually the only thing that sucks is leaving early. Also do you commute in rain on your ebike? If so, what kind

Same situation for me except I got a decently made E-scooter. License got taken 8 years ago, and I've always had that serious 'wanderlust' since I was taught to ride a gas dirtbike by the time I was a few months shy of my 5th birthday (since apparently I had 'mastered' riding a regular bicycle w/o any training wheels just after turning 3yrs). But back to the Epilepsy issue, because of always having the itch to simply explore anywhere and everywhere, I became rather depressed; the feeling of being stuck in a minimum security prison, or having to be on a house arrest perhaps, had been taking a toll on my sense of freedom and general happiness. Walking, taking public transportation, and even riding a traditional bicycle just wasn't cutting it for me in the area I live. Bought the electric scooter last year and even with just a 24mph/38kph top speed, and about a 40 mile range (in 'ECO' Mode), though I get approximately a more realistic 20-25 mile range since I can't keep my heavy thumb out of the throttle. It brings a simple happiness into my days that no damn antidepressants could ever come close to doing for me. I've been looking to upgrade though and can't decide between an E-bike or a new scooter I've had my eye on that is twice as beefy as my current ride. Anyway, glad to see another 'flopper' here making a comment that reflects the same sentiment and reasoning as myself. Carpe Diem

Thats still a danger to others

@@Mike-oxlong1029how do you figure? Are we not allowed to go anywhere or do anything? Heck I have active seizures and still have a drivers license hows that make you feel 😂

​@@Mike-oxlong1029something that would be much better is all cars have an interlock device for drunk drivers. Driving is not a right so we shouldn't even make it possible for someone to start a street legal vehicle while drunk. Only exceptions would be driving on your own property for work and most people don't have land like that anyway so the farmers would be fine and everyone else would be far safer. Honestly we're in the worst times for transportation, too late for horses and too early for all self driving cars. It's just like elevators used to have a driver's and everyone was scared to trust the automatic ones over someone controlling it when it's been proven countless times that we are terrible at everything we do when compared to computers and processing information efficiently. All self-driving cars should be their own independent entity though to make it extremely difficult to hack someone's car or even say you break a law and your car automatically takes you to the police station or something haha

Hell I'm 29 and to get a car in payments is just way out of my budget and I can't save enough money to buy a decent vehicle I wouldn't have to put money into that I don't have right now I commute with e scooter can't wait to save enough for an e bike .

Facts

@@R2D2arthurge💯

It’s nobodies business also

❤❤🎉😊facts

Bro 💀 That’s the definition of never judge a book by its cover

Knowing e-bikes are around 22.5kg, that's impressive. Just imagine u were on the road bike, now that's unfair😂😂

Same thing here. Guy called out "Cheater!", and my e-bike was turned off 🤔

Nobody is bothered though

Mtb bikers dislike road bikers on the road.mtb biker dislike emtb biker on uphill.hikers dislike mtb bikers.if someone ask me to choose only one,i i wanna choose emtb.

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the whole fun of riding is the fact that you're getting a great workout and getting to your location tho!. Not to mention people who get E bikes generally little-> No trail etiquette or knowledge (especially new immigrants who take their ENTIRE family pf 4-6 as a group , on their brand new 4k$ bikes and go down the trails as slow as possible....and just stand in groups randomly around corners... I've crashed into these groups over 3 times in 2021 alone on mt.Seymour.. on one occasion i almost knocked a child off the edge of a small embankment because his parents were lwtting his walk along the ladder ramps like a damn jungle gym... If I didn't bail and jump off of the 10' high track I was on I would have hit the kid Is going 15 km an hour and he would have fallen down and possibly broken his neck or back as there were logs below us down about 12-13ft.. and then a steeo embankment.. he must have been maybe 7 years old if that. So I had to literally jump off my bike and let myself and my bike fall 12' into a bushy area because there was no way I could slow down in time to avoid the child as to not give him serious concussion or throw him or knock him off the ladder bridge. This has never happened before with anyone on the mountain let alone a child with parents. and I live in the Northwest of British Columbia where mountain biking is 1 of the most popular things you can do here Aside from water sports and mountain climbing/hiking. they're kind of ruining it for the people who ride actual mountain bikes under their own power without those obnoxious2steoke bolt on motors or ebikes... As soon as they get to the bottom of the hill they pack up their bikes as quick as possible and drive out of there as not to be ridiculed by the dozens of other actual mountain bikers hanging out in the parking lot having a good time bonding over the difficult but fulfilling ride they just had... they're definitely not seen as part of the community that's for sure. I'm not saying ebikes can't be fun I'm just saying All of this could be resolved if we just put up some signs reminding people on ebikes not to congregate on actual trails and that people not riding ebikes are much more silent and you're not gonna hear me coming down a trail when I'm going 40km an hour fast enough for you to move out of the way in time if you're just standing there gawking at the trees like an idiot with your $4000 digital camera... Or if we actually had effective park Rangers who understood the safety hazards these travelers and foreigners cause when they come onto our bike parks and and trails thinking it's some simple recreation area when in fact you could get severely injured or kill yourself ( While it is unlikely it's certainly possible I've had 2 or 3 friends severely injured going off jumps and landing wrong including 2 of which that had punctured lungs as well as one with a broken forearm that had exposed bone... if you get in the way of someone coming down a hillfull speed.. YOUR the danger and the reason for a crash. there is no speed limit on the trail. but our signs arnt in mandarin or farsi so they dont understand the danger or rules for safety... My bad I definitely got off subject don't get me wrong I think e bikes are really cool I just think the last place anyone should be allowed to or should be riding them at all is on a actual downhill trail.. If you keep them on the roads I couldnt care less about ppl riding them. even then though people who ride bicycles on the road rarely obey traffic laws and go through red lights all the time..but that's a whole different story though and a whole different type of stupid.

@@Curtis.Carpenter I will not read your wall of text. I was speaking about me. Me. Not you and neither anybody else.

@@Curtis.Carpenter no need to write a whole essay on KZfaq lol

There are still e bikes that you exercise with. Pedal assists are a thing, making you faster or having greated distances.

Thats the magic of ebikes, its not just about making it easier but about going faster more time; more fun more happiness.

yes I love my ebike.I have done nearly 1000 miles since January.I have just bought myself a full suspension ebike to go with my hardtail ebike, they are amazing

So isn't my dirt bike.

​@@markmistretta01 Go on then. Rider your shitty dirt bike instead of complaining. Except that shit is noisy and a menace to the public. While the ebike is silent and people wouldnt bat and eye about it. Your retarded comparison is stupid. Youre compare a 2 or 4 stroke to an electric motor that uses magnets and silent as hell that produces no emissions and still light enough to be picked up and taken inside your home. Talaria or surrons those are more dirtbikes than ebikes cause theyre designed and look similar to dirt bikes

This is me. Im convinced i'll finally get back to biking if i get one.

I've never been envious of weaklings, nor i hate them

I’m 68 years old. Most people are very gracious.

@Joe Joe I've lost well over 100 pounds, still use my E-bike. Mid drive just means I can put the same amount of effort in and go *that much faster* up a hill.*

​@@DFX2KX Yeah i have an electric bike and throttle everwhere. I lost weight by hitting the gym LOL Gojng for a ride doesnt gave to always equal exercising. I go out to enjoy my city and smell the air and socially say hello to people some times. But bitches like those yelljng out cheaters dont understand that riding an ebike or electric bike was never abojt racing people It was always about enjoying the throttle. That can cry about it

@@Mash3OH3 exactly. and if you're not using throttle, you get higher speeds with the same amount of work. or can safely push yourself harder since if you overdo it, you've got the throttle to limp your sore ass home, lol

Soon* ♥️All Humans will enjoy the Earth 🌎🌍 because of Jehovah God -with the speed +agility of an ANIMAL Safely FOREVER💜see JW/Jehovah's Witnesses

@@4lalaKitty yo go back to knocking on doors tf you doin here

@@4lalaKitty Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I fear no evil; for Thou art with me; Thy rod and Thy staff, they comfort me. Jesus Christ is first.

​@@4lalaKitty Happy birthday, oh shit right, your leader says no💀 Your are the reason why loser has an L in it

I find that PA level 1 on my ebike gives just enough power to compensate for the added weight, giving a performance that's pretty comparable to a regular bike. If I can do it on PA 1, I can do it on a regular bike.

You can ride it how you want with or without power your bike your choice 🤓

You can put the same effort in as a standard pedal bike, but you just go further and faster for the same energy. And it makes you choose the ebike for many journeys that you wouldn't have time to do on the pedal bike.

@@penskib1975 but you go faster uphill so it’s not the same effort

@@tylersnow75 You can choose to put the same effort in. Mine on 1 only compensates for the extra weight of the ebike. And it doesn't compensate for me and the boy on the back (i have a seat on the back). I use low power levels normally and put a lot of effort in, but if I need to be somewhere at a certain time I will make it if I push the power up. Otherwise you would choose the car as the time limit would be impossible on a ordinary bike.

Have both

I bet that happens soooo often.

Actually do that too it's so fun😂

Real talk!!💪🏽I got my Chevrolegs!!

I get the odd guy trying to beat my e-bike while I'm just cruising along not even trying to race them back.

Wouldn't pass me mine does over 60mph see ya

I'll take that a step further, no standard mountain bike should cost 4k in the first place.

good news everyone, YT is selling decent Emtb’s for $3500

Then forget to unlock it at the top and wonder why the bike feels so harsh, figure it out at the bottom and start worrying that you've now damaged your suspension. Maybe that's just me haha..

​@@dylan-5287 Yes only you

I will admit i understand none of that. But i have a single speed bike so thats probably why.

@@kurotsuki7427when you have suspension, you’re turning some of the energy from your body into heat within the shock absorbers with every pedal stroke you make.

I lock mine it still kills me going up the hills and I'm not that unfit

Ebikes are actually pretty simple. Just a bike with a motor and battery.

@@stevelouie5928 literally simple as fuck lol. They complain for no reason. Was ina cab and dude seen an ebike pass and called him lazy, like bro..... You're in a fucking car.

I fixed any and everything that needed repair on my e-bikes. It’s not much different than a “normal” bicycle. Just a couple of wires and a battery.

@@stevelouie5928 I can have all the tools for repairs in a tiny back in my backpack so I can fix anything on the fly where stuff usually goes down. I don't like to work with electronics. It's flimsy and could be issues fixing it in rain, which I get a lot of. Maybe when I get old and weak I will need a motorised assisted bicycle, but I'll more then likely just buy a real motorcycle instead.

the only additional things I carry are a set of wire-cutters and some electrical tape. which I had anyway for things like brake lines.

mmm ya then you woke up and realized your life was a bad dream.

@@Hot_Topic lol

@@Hot_Topic he should have at least pedaled a little. Haha

@@Hot_Topic wow you sound like you hate life that much you project onto others...

You can still use it as a normal bike once the battery is drained bad attempt at a lie

Good for you keep at it!

Get one your won't believe how cool they are and you get more of a workout than the peddle bike trust me.

Get one on a payment plan.🎉😂❤

You'd never go back once you got a Ebike. The beauty is you can work as hard as you want with a Ebike. Certain hills are still killers and you would never stand a chance on a traditional bike.

Good attitude to have

You can turn the motor off and use it like a analog bike. The reason ebikes are so amazing is it gives unfit people the confidence to get home.

@@niblet112 analog bike? Just say normal bike.

I understand, but wouldn't it be cool to ride that long down hill section you enjoy more than one or two times in a day? How does 5 or 6 times sound?

Watch a compilation vid of them spontaneously combusting you'll understand why, good luck putting one of them out if it decides to go off out on a trail.

@@corndogko1661 Na that’s just the super Mario speed kickin, the flames die down the faster you go and eventually the super speed wears off and you cool down.

You mean mountain biking

@@jarnold1789 yes. I don't know why I spelled it like that🤦💀

@@n8_vel868 I didn’t mean because you spelled it as “mtb” I meant because you put the word analogue in front of it. There’s no such thing as an analogue mountain bike, that’s just a mountain bike

@@jarnold1789 it's kinda supposed to be a joke between electric bikes being digital and normal mountain bikes I consider analog mountain bikes in this context. I didn't make the joke it's actually from another KZfaq video💁

Maybe up hill, but downhill the weight of the bike helps gain more speed I think most are restricted to like 25mph a lot of riders push faster than this on a normal DH bike

@@JamieMarksify most of what I've seen is just around the local park courses, which are hybrid bmx/cx type courses, but in the woods with a tree "gently" welcoming you if you overcook a turn. 😉

@@JeffBurns they take some pursuading to get them to change direction quickly thsys for sure mate haha

They only allow people to ride faster up a hill, on the flat they're slower as you have to pedal through the motor drag above 25kph. I'm guessing you've never ridden one...🙄

My concern is the massive firework these things can potentially turn into, on trails in the middle of nowhere without fire suppression cause why would you.

I was the middle guy of 3 going down a 200 Ft hill we had momentum when we hit the woods at the bottom. I caught a 1"-2" sapling cut off about 6" high. My bicycle stopped momentarily I"asked the guy behind me later for clarification ". Did i actually land on my left shoulder and bounce landing on my feet and catching my bicycle with my good arm? My collar bone was snapped and the parking lot was back up the 200' hill. Those two guys quit riding I took about 4-5 months to recover to ride again.I was fairly new at my company and the doctor wouldn't allow me to work. Called in 1 day luckily I started a paid month long class and no one was the wiser. I re-set the bones several times before it gets sticky.

In my country you could buy a decent SUV if you convert 6000$.💀

That's the beauty. More time outside and more fun.

Where should we show off then?

Yea

@@sandraf425 Garbage e-waste products that will be obsolete in a few years

You know how long the battery lasts right?

Thats me all the time. I ride an emtb and people pass me all the time. My stamina isn't there and I don't want to ride in turbo. I ride in auto or less all the time.

@@carajean206 Get a bicycle and pedal, you’ll be amazed how good of shape you’ll get in

@@jarnold1789 you'll be amazed though how much of an exercise you can get from an emtb. Take your fingers and type it into youtube and do some research. I am never going back to a regular bike. Also I do pedal on mine or I can't go anywhere.... class 1

@@carajean206 You must be an old geriatric so hey good for you for still getting outside

@@carajean206 I ride on the lowest assist mode most days, but it’s great to be able to use the power when I want and do 40 mile+ rides on my days off. People who hate on Ebikes are people that can’t afford them and are riding a cheap hard tail. I ride a basic hard tail too some days when I’m in a group mod non ebike owners, but Ebikes are just better and more fun in my opinion

Folks don't know CAAD

i can go 3 mph downhill on a good mountain bike

Exactly!

Same

Stop riding, then. Your body is telling you to stop. Also, the torque from the ebike destroys trails. More TQs than ICE motorcycles.

@@muddyguns absolutely not an option: a) I love cycling b) My surgeon says it's good exercise for my knees as there's no twisting. c) I cycle everywhere in my job as a community support worker d) In my town cycling is (a lot) quicker than driving.

@@richardgoddard37 all I see are "my" statements. You're selfish. Too you're no longer "cycling" when you strap a motor and battery on your bike. So, you don't really love cycling...you love riding motorized bicycles. You "loved" cycling and can no longer do it. Ask your surgeon other exercises for your knees. I bet they have a few suggestions.

lmao if that is the moment you are waiting then this video is for you

Anyone who rides an EBike knows to take precautions to not let this happen. Nice lie

As far as I know, most ebike motors are weaker than the ones used in Bird scooters, quite a bit below motocross bikes.

Nah bro it’s not even close to that. The whole point of mountain biking is that the bike is so light but crazy capable. Unlike a big dirt bike. Mountain bikes fit in extreme tight spaces and maneuver it’s much different ways than a dirt bike. The motor is just there as a small assist for going up hill or gaining speed. It really helps the rider go for longer and further before getting tired. If you ride them to its full capacity for a few hours it’s an awesome workout and a great fuckign time. You can pull of sketchy shit that a bigger bike would never even think of trying.

@@Lazer-yi6qg *laughs in trials and tw200*

Dirty noisy motor cycles. 😮😂

155lb rider here and in ridiculous shape and do 40mile rides in the morning up and down Palomar mountain that I could never do on my regular mtbs. It just opens up more riding opportunities. It’s not a crutch unless you keep it in high power mode all the time and never push yourself

Man all these excuses as to what’s better and “doing the climb on my own strength” type thing. It paves the way to thinking like an elitist. I get passed by Super 73s or even Surrons and I never get all bent out of shape over it. Being called a cheater is such a butthurt mentally I just laugh at that shit.

@@Mash3OH3 💯👍🏻

You might enjoy one. It's about having fun and going exploring. I also go a lot further on an ebike and feel a lot more free. I walk many miles per day, not a fitness contest imo.

@@KF1 💯 Couldn't agree more!

Some ebikes are stealth looking with motor & thin inframe battery!@😮😊

Cool 😂

Nope

yeah no, u havent seen me haul ass on the ebike up a hill once im past the assistance speed

the important part is getting out for a ride. On an ebike you still pedal more than you think. It's just that you get to go further, faster, and have more fun.

@@KF1 no you pedal for twenty seconds and it does the work for you i dont think they need to be banned though

@@masteroogway1586 yeah the motor is a huge help. That's what makes them awesome.

@@masteroogway1586 It's actually really hard _not_ to pedal, because that's where your feet are. I used mine for trail riding in the back woods. Motor got me through some seriously swampy and rocky terrain. Got to cover 5x the distance I normally would have. Really a lot of fun

​@@masteroogway1586 shows how clueless you are then about them.

Yes you're right. I can lockout the full suspension. Than ride uphill as a hard tail. 😊

The only mtbs that pass me are the hard core twenty-something crowd and those I allow to pass me.

A skilled regular mountain biker would destroy an untrained ebiker down a difficult downhill.

@@stevenleslie8557 lol

@@stevelouie5928 what about a skilled e-biker

Dude walking 100 years ago like "your horse is a dirty cheater!" It's cool if you enjoy getting the exercise and putting in the hard work, but some people just like to ride to have fun. Maybe to them it's not a contest.

@@KF1 whatever floats your boat.

Low IQ take

the throttle e-bikes are really electric mini-bikes and they don't allow those on pedestrian trails.

that's nice of you. I wish more people had good trail etiquette. I usually see the exact opposite - bikers, e and analog - bombing past me trail running while i dive for cover. I want more single use trails so I can feel safe again like I did all winter when the softies were inside.

In my area, our trails get super muddy during the fall and winter because they have a ton of clay content, and they stay muddy for a while. Our trails are off limits to all uses with those conditions, yet some people still ride, run, and hike the mud and destroy our trails. Call people softies all you want, they probably just don't want to risk ruining the trails on the off chance that they're not completely frozen.

@@TheDustyShredder That is a fair point. Quite often ours get buried in the snow for a while in winter. I try to avoid the muddy season once it gets warmer to avoid extra erosion - I am sensitive to it. They aren't all softies - some are trying to be good stewards- but there are definitely some who are waiting for the fair weather. Plus, unless you got a fatty i'm not sure biking on snow pack that verges on ice is very fun - I've never tried it.

@@taylorlayton4508 it is sketchy for sure, lol. I definitely wiped out a couple times on some actual ice. We don't get a lot of snow very often, so when we do, I make it a point to go out and ride it once it stays for a week. By that point, it's actually quite optimally textured for grip from all the various treads. I try not to ride it when it's fresh because it could still be muddy underneath. Once it stays for about a week, I know that the ground is frozen solid and the snowpack is perfect. However, sometimes it rains a while instead, and that's when it gets sketchy because once that freezes, you've got ice slicks and those are what I wiped out on. I'm running Vittoria Mazza 2.4s, so definitely not fatties. That said, they are very grippy and shed the snow like a husky at full pace.

@@TheDustyShredder beautiful husky simile there and beautiful trail stewardship. careful with the ice - i've gone sideways myself on some black ice on the road. I wish you many dry and safe trails!

I got a used Devinci AC for $3000 USD off of pinkbike, great condition and it came with a second set of wheels and tires. And it actually had pretty good specs too. GX drivetrain, Code RSC brakes, Fox 36 elite and DHX2 factory, and that kind of stuff.

I don’t get it. You can buy brand new dirt bikes for the price if these e-bikes

@@cc3775 not everyone is old enough to drive one

Just lease 1.😊

@@cc3775 i see where ur coming from but a dirt bike cant be taken on the path or most roads legally

Jesus Christ!! Thats a lot of motor for an mtb. I've ridden rgvs and they went like shit off a shovel.

True why are they hating

Your the guy In the video 😂

@@jackdunwody4771 😂

I hate to break it to you, but most people don't understand the beauty of climbing. I don't have a natural climber's body, but the rhythm and magic of an extremely long uphill can't be beaten.

People getting out getting fresh air, isn’t that the most important thing?? Not everyone is about putting on Lycra and climbing the biggest hill.

@@kevinvanhollebeke4560 I agree with you climbing is one of the most important parts of biking

Cope, caveman

What anyone else does is no business of yours unless they are preventing you from also freely going about your life. Let people do what they want, for fuck's sake.

I'm just about to do the same.. can't wait for the downs on the lighter bike

Because the torque of the ebike destroys trails. More TQs than an ICE motorcycle

you are a rare animal . My experience on MTB trails has been the opposite.

Hard mode biking

Now why would you want to do that?

Good luck riding that on bike trails

@@jonthecont good luck riding an ebike on bike trails. It’s a motorized vehicle. Same as a ICE bike, just using semantics to fool oneself into thinking it’s not. No worries, the enviro-nazis will eventually close down whatever trails you enjoy with ebikes first, then soon after MTN bikes will also be banned. Happens out here in Montana all the time. They just tried to close down the remaining 10% of bike trails/OHV areas whilst shrieking,”you need to compromise! Why will you not cOmProMisE?!” Well…you’ve closed down 90% of all the trails since the 90s…when are you going to open up more trails as a compromise, since that’s exactly how the word is supposed to work.

@@downbytheriver501 not in the uk! I can ride any trail or bike park. If I came on a moto cross bike the police would be called. Mx is hated here in uk even in green lanes. Can go anywhere on my e-bike

@@jonthecont sorry to hear that.

That's hilarious, actually. 90 year old like "outa the way, young punk!"