proportional divider - the basics

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@venetiancat
@venetiancat 6 жыл бұрын
Art school and tens of thousands of dollars spent, hours slaving in factories and restaurants to repay the student loans... proportional divider NEVER MENTIONED! I've learned more from Mr. Mark Carder in 2 weeks than in 2 years of "art school" ! smh
@clairestringer3303
@clairestringer3303 5 жыл бұрын
I also went to art school and had never seen one of these. Such "academic" trappings were shunned, ha. Thank you, Mark!
@Chungustav
@Chungustav Жыл бұрын
Probably because they are used in drafting but as with all Renaissance men you should know how to do everything
@elaineneumann7155
@elaineneumann7155 10 жыл бұрын
Unbelieveable, You have the best teaching techniques I've ever seen. You make it uncomplicated, and easy to understand. And these totally ingenious devices that, with your direction, can be made by anyone. Thanks for your generosity.
@brewster102
@brewster102 6 жыл бұрын
Just discovered this man on KZfaq--huge amount of information he is conveying on these videos, whether you use all of his methods or not. And he encourages you to find your own voice in your art. Thank you Mark Carder!
@sonnyobrien
@sonnyobrien 3 жыл бұрын
I love how every video looks like a master oil painting. The lighting is so beautifully orchestrated.
@lisalushin4974
@lisalushin4974 7 жыл бұрын
I love my proportional divider!!! I could never get my drawings right until I got this from you....Thank you so much, you are absolutely awesome!!!!
@marinagarciasolorzano1724
@marinagarciasolorzano1724 9 жыл бұрын
Invaluable!!---All the secrets and tips that only a person that has devoted his whole life to a particular discipline, can give... that You can not buy or sell !... thanks a lot one more time!
@jeffwspencer
@jeffwspencer 6 жыл бұрын
Marc, I want to say first - thanks for making this video. I understand that it's been 5 years since you made it, so please accept my comment as coming from someone who started his journey in art last year, and became serious about his need to learn drawing a few months ago. My proportional divider, when used as it's intended, has been the greatest tool for helping me to learn how to draw. I started out using the crutch of a projector and/or an LED light board - which I became aware very early that I wasn't learning how to draw, but how to copy. So, the proportional divider - or prospect - is invaluable as a teaching aid for someone learning to draw and wanting to paint with realism. You said something in this video, however, that I found in error. One of the great benefits of the tool is that it can be used to scale up (measure with the smaller end, mark with the larger end) or scale down (vice versa). When I have a canvas and I want to insert a smaller subject (animal) - I will use a larger reference, and scale down the subject to fit on my canvas inside my composition. I agree totally with your admonition to keep the scale the same when transferring proportions of a subject to canvas, but would add that you can change the scale if you're placing a different subject somewhere else on your canvas for depth of field. I value your instructions. It's two-tools in one used for scale of proportions and can be used either way - making subjects larger, or smaller. You're likely just trying to keep things simple for newbies such as myself - it's easy to confuse a person not familiar with the topic. (me a year ago) I've also found it useful for me personally to pick a spot on my reference subject from which I find my "dots" for guiding me in my drawing and for checking my proportions as I progress. Thank you for sharing your experience and guidance. Your guidance has been very helpful to me in my journey learning to be a better artist.
@olimpiagambacorta5176
@olimpiagambacorta5176 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Mark, I'm new to your channel, and so happy to have found it. I have learned so much already. Thank you for your time, which you give us so generously. I can't afford an art school, but you explain things in a way that is so easy to understand. Your ideas about painting make so much sense to me. Please, keep making videos. Thanks again, Olimpia
@Alexiblackwellbridal
@Alexiblackwellbridal 5 жыл бұрын
You are a wonderful teacher Mr. Carder!! Thank You for sharing your knowledge and talent!
@chefwawa
@chefwawa 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for breaking this down. I’m a great fan of your method and follower of your teaching.
@saxonlight
@saxonlight 11 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty close to finished watching all your videos. Fantastic.Thank you very much for taking the time to pass on your knowledge.
@paulradich85
@paulradich85 8 жыл бұрын
I goddamn love this dudes videos!
@DrawMixPaint
@DrawMixPaint 11 жыл бұрын
Thank you ajsparks and barbara! Barbara, regarding transferring an image, just use the proportional divider the same way you would when using it for life drawing as in this video. But measure right on the photo instead of holding it up in front of you. Let me know if that does not answer your question.
@avestanstudio537
@avestanstudio537 2 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks Mark. It’s been a few years since taking your course but hey now I work as Painter Decorator for the Architect of the Capitol in D.C. Faux finishing the marble columns and stuff.
@kategeary1623
@kategeary1623 4 жыл бұрын
Those strings! so efficient for stellar quality of creative work. Thank you.
@Kazakhsha-styleUk
@Kazakhsha-styleUk 7 жыл бұрын
thank you! very valuable info.... i still wonder who are those people who disliked the video :-/ always get puzzled when someone dislikes such high-quality tutorials, especially when they are for free.
@cathyduran7771
@cathyduran7771 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. I learn so much from you and your videos. Blessings!
@pmc1665477
@pmc1665477 9 жыл бұрын
This is amazing. I've never seen such a device and this was awesome! I'm just hoping the injection plastic color checker is coming out soon. ;) It's very generous of you to share all of this to the masses for free - thank you so much!
@smokey2839
@smokey2839 9 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! I have been wondering if proportion dividers would work for me, after watching this, i can guarantee they will help me out big time, many thanks for the invaluable information.
@InLawsAttic
@InLawsAttic 2 жыл бұрын
Why am I just finding you now?? Wow, loving all these videos, thank you thank you!!
@CC-ho5lw
@CC-ho5lw 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for making this extremely helpful vid❣️ Oh and the plumb line string tip...wow I’d have never, ever known that.
@CheriHomaee
@CheriHomaee 11 жыл бұрын
Finally someone else that knows how to use a proportional divider. Some teachers never heard of it.
@DrawMixPaint
@DrawMixPaint 11 жыл бұрын
Thank you Cheri!
@bedward320
@bedward320 5 жыл бұрын
So simple, but Brilliant. Thanks.
@Bartyron
@Bartyron 3 ай бұрын
That is one amazing looking vase.
@vj4939
@vj4939 3 жыл бұрын
This is unbelievable....love all your vdos
@ghaouzi
@ghaouzi 11 жыл бұрын
Thank you very very much for sharing the info. with us. It helps a lot.
@RachelTerraceTown
@RachelTerraceTown 3 жыл бұрын
I hope they are in stock soon! I want to order one:)
@merlinmiller123
@merlinmiller123 5 жыл бұрын
I think this is the smartest thing i've seen This year
@DrawMixPaint
@DrawMixPaint 11 жыл бұрын
Thank you soxonlight!
@moondigit007
@moondigit007 9 жыл бұрын
For a still life painting or drawing you also have to make sure the table is absolutely level for more accuracy. Basically your proportion divider forms two isosceles triangle at each setting which are congruent to each other, that's why the third side you measure at each setting is proportionally similar to the one you choose to draw or paint.
@AngelSnowflakes
@AngelSnowflakes 7 жыл бұрын
omg thank you so so sooo much you are genius! that helped me so much thank you thank you!
@MawoDuffer
@MawoDuffer Ай бұрын
Thank you for this cool technique. I used to measure my proportion with my pencil which was a pain because I always had to compare to another dimension. I gave up on that and just started drawing by eye. But these look look like they’ll help a lot for drawing large things.
@ayaansary7853
@ayaansary7853 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like I can draw anything with this tool
@ajsparks87
@ajsparks87 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video - this is helpful.
@sophiefly4258
@sophiefly4258 6 жыл бұрын
fantastic. Thanks for sharing!
@veronicapagelaflin
@veronicapagelaflin 3 жыл бұрын
Changed my Life!
@nickfanzo
@nickfanzo 7 жыл бұрын
everyone should use a divider. they are amazing tools.
@watercolormuse
@watercolormuse 11 жыл бұрын
Thank You, now I know how to use it!
@bluevwlady
@bluevwlady 11 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, can I make one? What are the measurements ?
@bluevwlady
@bluevwlady 11 жыл бұрын
jerrysartarma does not have a wooden proportional divider. They have metal ones that are expensive, any suggestions?
@margaretbutters6181
@margaretbutters6181 7 жыл бұрын
great teacher thanks for that - must make one
@Honeyman126
@Honeyman126 6 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to use one for a very large canvas ?
@pedjamigrant7189
@pedjamigrant7189 4 жыл бұрын
It is interesting that your videos and your looks if I may say have the exact same quality , even the camera is great quiality for 2012. The thing I'm pointing at is , when the man does what he loves , he doesn't age.
@BryanCastleman
@BryanCastleman 11 жыл бұрын
A year or so ago, I got an Accurasee Proportional Divider for something like $12. It works great. I think my only problem with it is that it is black. I think if it was white it would be better.
@atomicmonkeyscream
@atomicmonkeyscream 11 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this.
@b3rn41987
@b3rn41987 11 жыл бұрын
THIS IS BRILLIANT! I am a beginner and was wondering what to do with it.Mark can you please make a video on HOW TO TRANSFER AN IMAGE (On the paper) ON TO A CANVAS? Thank you :)
@victorhugorodriguezcastane9341
@victorhugorodriguezcastane9341 2 жыл бұрын
I'm in Louisuana and l want to know where do you sell your oil paints.
@brendajeannewyche2294
@brendajeannewyche2294 3 ай бұрын
Thank you SO MUCH!
@COLORPAPERPRINCESS
@COLORPAPERPRINCESS 8 жыл бұрын
cool video!
@gebhardt244
@gebhardt244 3 жыл бұрын
How do you keep the dstance equal doesnt it make a difference if you are closer or not as close to sth?
@gaicuh7461
@gaicuh7461 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic.
@ashikaahso7276
@ashikaahso7276 7 жыл бұрын
what should i do with proportional divider when i need to paint way bigger than actual subject??
@EnriqueAnguloYuste
@EnriqueAnguloYuste 11 жыл бұрын
Mis felicitaciones por tan logrado trabajo divulgativo y de la manera tan didáctica en su elaboración. Y mis felicitaciones por su obra. Saludos desde España
@cwjohansen8926
@cwjohansen8926 2 жыл бұрын
I have your divider. The screw will not come out without using an Allen screw driver. The screw part does not go into the holes without great effort and Allen driver. What can I do? Thank you. Colleen
@paraisoenllamas
@paraisoenllamas 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks you!!
@asmasm9372
@asmasm9372 Жыл бұрын
Is it recommended? Or we can just survive measuring stuff with our finger?
@gracie30ish
@gracie30ish 7 жыл бұрын
thank you so much
@reseksaadeh
@reseksaadeh 4 жыл бұрын
you are a master
@Migraineboy420ganjajoe
@Migraineboy420ganjajoe 6 жыл бұрын
Subscribed!
@trindadedasilva
@trindadedasilva 6 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't it help if the strings had some kind of weight on the end so it will get really straight?
@LINDYDAWN1969
@LINDYDAWN1969 3 жыл бұрын
Plumb lines are used in atelier drawing schools. Try!
@broby2
@broby2 11 жыл бұрын
I just finished my first college drawing course and I spent a lot of time doing something similar with a bamboo skewer and a ruler....this would have saved a lot of time lol.
@christinetempleton7657
@christinetempleton7657 3 жыл бұрын
You can do the same thing with a bamboo skewer, but you have to be extra careful to keep shoulders square, arm locked and body in same spot wash time: that's a given. You also have to measure holding the skewer exactly horizontal and exactly vertical and pay attention to where your thumb is. The art classes I have been in that teach this are simply looking for a method that is accurate and very inexpensive, with minimal labor to start using. There are lots of good things about this way (skewer) of measuring, it's just which method is easier for you. You can also use a different kind of proportional divider that has measuring points on one side. I also think this is a good way and plan to start using it, it's good to have alternatives for many reasons.
@gamesmoney1025
@gamesmoney1025 2 жыл бұрын
What if your getting a picture on the phone but want to make it bigger?
@josiewh09
@josiewh09 8 жыл бұрын
can you make the proportional divider longer to make the scale bigger for larger paintings?
@DrawMixPaint
@DrawMixPaint 8 жыл бұрын
+Josselyn White Yes, the one we sell at genevafineart.com/ is 14 inches long and is ideal for most work, but if you are going to be painting very large then yes it would be good to have a larger one.
@josiewh09
@josiewh09 8 жыл бұрын
ok great thanks :)
@elyosavi
@elyosavi 4 жыл бұрын
what if I like to draw and paint standing up
@losangulos
@losangulos 5 жыл бұрын
Instead of the strings why not use a table fixed to the floor you just put your divider the in a solid surface everytime you measure i mean to the side of the table a piece of wood not so big but fixed to the floor and with your arm extended so you don't have to worry about the chair moving or the misscalculation of the strings and your hands not in the same line. Just a thought.
@barbaragilesartist
@barbaragilesartist 7 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to measure the objects with the wide end of the proportional divider and flip it to transfer the narrow end. I am working smaller than life.
@muskndusk
@muskndusk 7 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@barbaragilesartist
@barbaragilesartist 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you muskndusk!
@chrissalch693
@chrissalch693 7 жыл бұрын
Have you had much success with a metric ruler (math should be easier than traditional units) and a calculator?
@losangulos
@losangulos 5 жыл бұрын
Yes. But as someone said its a tool to train your eye. I mean you could take a picture then transfer it to Illustrator and do all the lines in vectors with a mouse then print it in whatever size and just paint that, but that wouldn't be fun and you'll never learn to draw.
@SalkisRe
@SalkisRe 10 жыл бұрын
Do you sell these, Im not even going to pretend like I am going to make this lol..
@PHeMoX
@PHeMoX 9 жыл бұрын
How would you compensate for a canvas that is at a slight angle (like with watercolour painting)?
@DrawMixPaint
@DrawMixPaint 9 жыл бұрын
PHeMoX The proportional divider would automatically compensate, as you place the tips of the two sticks onto the surface of the canvas.
@PHeMoX
@PHeMoX 9 жыл бұрын
Draw Mix Paint Ahh understood, so I need to touch the canvas with it. Yes, that makes perfect sense. Thank you for the response! :)
@wolf7379
@wolf7379 8 жыл бұрын
+Draw Mix Paint First of all, I just want to say I do like your techniques and I love your painting style. I began to take up painting from the beginning of this year, hence I have a lot to learn. I did a portrait painting using the grid method and my second painting with the proportional divider. The proportional divider was a God-send. The only problem I have is that I am racked with guilt when I use the proportional divider because of the ongoing debate on whether or not it is a form of cheating. When I have spare time I know I have to practice drawing/painting freehand a portrait from a photograph, but when I am doing a portrait of someone that I am going to give to that person, there is no way I am going to do it free-hand because I am not good enough and it has to be perfect because it will not look like the person in the photograph. You did a video on the 'Artist's Curse' - and I assure you you're paintings are terrific - but my curse is the one lurking in the back of my mind when I have to confess to someone that I "cheated" with a proportional divider. I just wished I was good enough to do portraiture freehand without resorting to the proportional divider and living with the guilt.
@calvancandy8384
@calvancandy8384 8 жыл бұрын
+wolf727 even when you learn to draw properly - the proportional divider is still very useful if you want to get super accurate - all the guilt is bullshit my friend let it go
@PHeMoX
@PHeMoX 8 жыл бұрын
wolf727 "because I am not good enough and it has to be perfect because it will not look like the person in the photograph." I'm going to side with Calvan on this one. You shouldn't feel any guilt. I'm not even sure if you should confess anything. Also, it might help to get a better understanding of what makes a drawing more accurate in terms of likeness. This literally comes down to proportions of the various elements in a drawing or painting and artists get this right by measuring. Whether 'by eye' and estimation or by exact measurements , I don't really see the problem. I know a lot of painters who actually use projections of photographs and tracing to get the likeness as quickly as possible. Not necessarily because they wouldn't be able to get the likeness with free hand drawing otherwise, but simply because it would take too much time. With their portraits being fairly cheap, that's simply the inevitable trade-off. Of course, if a commission allows for you spending 100 hours on a single painting, I'm sure you could justify investing more in drawing everything by free hand with more measurements by eye. But even then... I don't think there are that many artists that really can visualise extremely accurate proportions and put them down on paper without having to go over it again with measuring in some way or another. You know, it reminds me of some people who say using an eraser is an artistic crime, instead of a useful tool. I think I'm going with the eraser being that useful tool to me, just like the proportional divider is. Anyhow, just my 2cts.
@andreamar6044
@andreamar6044 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe you could rest your arm at the edge of the easel each time to fix where you hold the divider.
@420WEED69
@420WEED69 Жыл бұрын
No fan or, open window breeze On hot day that string will be moving If you have a fan on
@thebrokenartist183
@thebrokenartist183 4 жыл бұрын
epique
@ArtbyJoeH
@ArtbyJoeH 7 жыл бұрын
Perhaps using a chair with a back, so you know to keep your back in contact with the back to prevent moving forward.
@TimGreig
@TimGreig 7 жыл бұрын
Which he is sitting in...
@ArtbyJoeH
@ArtbyJoeH 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that Tim! But he does not suggest keeping one's back in contact with the back of the chair. I was merely suggesting to viewers, not the artist here. I don't think he would need to do that anyway. Incredible artist with vast experience.
@rachelsremedies2602
@rachelsremedies2602 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve learned a little here and little there that has helped me sooo much. But a nice Cesar haircut and throw away your dark t-shirts, you’d be all that and a bag of chip!
@keithastbury1525
@keithastbury1525 Ай бұрын
It wasn't a foul!
@7Earthsky
@7Earthsky 6 жыл бұрын
Why hang two strings from the ceiling? You could just as easily have erected two pencils on your desk to achieve the same thing. Or two bits of wood if you needed them taller.
@indre_7077
@indre_7077 8 жыл бұрын
I don't need a proportion devider a pencil goes just fine XD
@Romazetti
@Romazetti 6 жыл бұрын
_dnimfoetats _ only if you draw in 1:1 proportion (one taken measure from object equals to one measure on painting)
@TheSascharaubach
@TheSascharaubach 8 жыл бұрын
oh, it is a very american way to prove your proportions. never seen this before. normaly, in europe we check proportions like between length and wide. a length has no proportion, cos the length is just a line. a line is a 1d object, it cant have proportions, it only have a legth. so what you do in the video, is comparing the length of the object, with the legth of your drawing, but not proportions. you need at leest a 2d object, to have proportions in it, like a rectangle. so if you have a rectangle you can chek the proportions between the wide and length sides. so you simple need to compar both, and finde the difference. you can use a simple pencil or a brush for it. and you can measure from any distance, becouse the difference (proportion) is allways the same. sorry for my bad english, im from germany
@muskndusk
@muskndusk 7 жыл бұрын
'Proportions'=ratio.
@tunkom8479
@tunkom8479 3 жыл бұрын
A la verga.
@keithastbury1525
@keithastbury1525 Ай бұрын
Take City out of the Premier League "to create a more even playing field" (lol) and you will still be crap!!
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@wamtum7515 3 жыл бұрын
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