Proraso GREEN Battle! | SOAP vs CREAM | WHICH IS BETTER ?
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2 жыл бұрынIn this video I battle Proraso GREEN SOAP vs the CREAM in a tube. Razor was the Razorock Gamechanger 0.68 Safety Bar with the Vintage Thick Handle and the brushes were both Yaqi 26mm, Lucky Dice and Rainbow.
I'll provide tips on shaving with safety razors, how to shave your head, how to lather a shave soap and discuss different shaving techniques as well as other items of relevance to shaving. I do have a beard and my videos also include beard trimming tips as well as how to clean your beard with a safety razor. See my other videos for how to define your beard boundaries as well as how to trim your beard, how to groom your beard and how to dye your beard. Your comments on how to improve my videos would be appreciated.
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@MullyShaves 8 ай бұрын
To anyone watching, and to our host, when you’re using a spray bottle to spritz something with water, it doesn’t matter if you do a long slow “shwwwwwwiii” or a quick “shwii”. The amount of water in that tube is exactly the same and the dispersement from the sprayer is exactly the same. I know it might feel like there’s a difference, there isn’t. And thanks for the side by side comparison. You answered quite a few of my questions.
@demodemo9698 9 ай бұрын
I love the detailed break down on this review. Great content. Just subbed & liked the video
@jasonhernandez3612 2 жыл бұрын
Both are very similar, I do agree that the tube cream is slicker, but the tub is easier to store and lather from. Proaso green is my favorite go to.
@davidjamessandling 2 жыл бұрын
I much prefer a bowl lather, its always given me really good results. Maybe its placebo effect but I tend to like the lather in a bowl more. Appreciate the review sir, I will be picking up some soon myself.
@xatasteofchaosx1457 Жыл бұрын
I know it's a year old now, but great video. When I first started using DE razors I used to bowl lather. But I switched to face lathering to save some time, but then I realized that I was getting better and more comfortable shaves when I did this so now all I do is face lather. I have not used any Proraso soaps or creams but I do use the pre shave from Proraso. I should probably give the Proraso tube cream a shot since it is not that expensive, but I have so many shaves soaps and creams right now that I am set for years! I also have not used any RR razors yet simply because after my RAD phase, I have settled on my 4 favorite razors and sold or given away my others. I currently use the Rockwell 6C, Vikings Blade Chieftain 5 BC(Beautiful razor), Vikings Blade Emperor (frosted chrome), and my personal FAVORITE the Ascension Select double open comb razor from PAA. I use Perma-Sharp Supers, GSB and Voskhod blades. Sometimes I'll use a Rapira Plat Lux, Shark Super Chrome and Lord Plat Class if I just want a 1 time use blade and then toss because those are usually only good for one shave for me. I am not going to list my soaps because I have too many lol.
@dimitardimitrov5366 2 жыл бұрын
Very intriguing review! Thank you!
@zacharykent8631 2 жыл бұрын
They seem identical to me too. I do prefer the tub just because it stacks well and doesn’t puncture. Great shave!
@ojshaves1523 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Zachary. The biggest surprise was the strength of the smell but otherwise identical. I recently learned I should keep the boxes for tubes and odd shaped items to ease storage. Tubes as they get used also make for bad shave of the day pics so +1 for bowls.
@zacharykent8631 2 жыл бұрын
@@ojshaves1523 maybe I’ll squeeze the cream into the tub once it’s empty… best of both worlds!
@phateboyejosh1 2 жыл бұрын
I have face lathered but I personally prefer to warm my bowl up in hot water then lather in it after warmed up. Makes for a incredible experience.
@gregorylawrence7262 2 жыл бұрын
I now have more soaps than creams in my den. Own all the Proraso & Single Blade creams (snagged Wood & Spice yesterday off of your suggestion), but I surprisingly have none of the soaps. Glad I subscribed to you. A raise of the razor in salute of the shave OJ.
@ojshaves1523 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Gregory! I will be getting the other single blade creams as well. Wood and Spice is truly fantastic! Thanks for subscribing!
@TimShaves 2 жыл бұрын
I've noticed a subtle difference between the soap and cream. Cream feels slightly slicker and more moisturizing on the face.. Both still work well for my uses
@ojshaves1523 2 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed the cream and it was a bit slicker but not by much. I look to my post shave products for moisturization and I agree they both work very well.
@dougfielding8215 5 ай бұрын
Great razor, great Proraso. Love that thicker handle.
@unclelshaves 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the interesting comparison. Personally : usage wise I use both Proraso creams and soaps, storage wise I prefer tubs over tubes as I can stack more tubs up on my soap shelf, soaps seem more efficient (need less product) and creams lather up quicker, I don't detect much performance difference between cream and soap. I don't use Proraso as much as I did a few years ago because of my now large SB Artisan soap collection.
@ojshaves1523 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching UncleL. I'm starting to keep the boxes for the tubes so I can easily store them. Performance was great with both and since I mostly head lather, I'd probably keep preferring the soap. Since I'm also into the SOTD pics, tubes look nasty as they get used unless you always keep a new one on hand for the pictures.
@10floz30minutes Жыл бұрын
Same question I responded to 8 months ago: I do not head-lather because doing that is too sloppy for me, too much drippy that way. I use a bowl only for building the lather in preparation for head-shave.
@theicnot 2 жыл бұрын
I like this dude. Just have switched to Proraso and Rockwell,,,,We'll see
@rayfinkleslaces7553 2 жыл бұрын
What a fun video. Thanks for the side by side!
@ojshaves1523 Жыл бұрын
It was fun to make.
@oldschoolshaving 2 жыл бұрын
I have only used the proraso red in the tub. Lathers well and is great for head shaves. Even without pre shave
@ojshaves1523 2 жыл бұрын
I've noticed that RED in particular really softens the hair and lowers blade resistance. Red is touted to soften hair and I'd say it really does that. I have a Proraso Red video coming up where I'll talk more about this. Other soaps may claim to do this but Proraso Red really succeeds and it's noticeable. The preshave works great if you let it sit for few minutes to let it work.
@nuuwnhuus 11 ай бұрын
Also take into account how long you want to store it. I'm sure I'm a bit of an edge case, but I recently noticed my tube has gone bad. Hadn't touched it in 10 years but still, the soap from then is still okay.
@georgesilverhawkstrailcame2297 Жыл бұрын
I’ve always been a Shaving Soap guy… it’s what my grandfathers, father, uncles and everyone I knew used when I grew up. My grandmother and aunts even made the having soaps they used… damn good stuff. Tallow based. And they added Bay Rum Oil or Peppermint. They made Bay Rum Aftershaves too. I do however have a few tubes of Proraso Cream for traveling and just to change things up. And as you say, I don’t perceive any difference in the quality of shave, slickness, etc. Good review, George Silver Hawk
@Shaverboy516 2 жыл бұрын
I love green in the tube. The tube will last longer too. The game changer is a great razor.
@guidobianco6039 11 ай бұрын
I love both, in my opinion the cream is better if you want a very compact and scented foam, the solid soap for shaving with the shavette to have a light and liquid cream is ideal.Everyone buys their own :)
@soapthing 2 жыл бұрын
Great video sir. I find it interesting that Proraso Blue only comes in a tube. I doubt if I’ve ever seen it in a tub. Come to think of it, I’ve never seen wood and spice shaving cream. I’ll have to look for it. Have a great weekend sir!
@ojshaves1523 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! Wood and spice is definitely one of my favorite scents. The cologne is a must!
@jeroenbarbier3508 Жыл бұрын
Blue is a pretty good soap! I just hope the tube will last.
@stricklandpropane86 2 жыл бұрын
Tried both, got a Proraso gift box for Christmas last year which had the cream. I'd go for the cream. Recently gave away my Proraso puck to a friend who I've converted to traditional wet shaving. :)
@ojshaves1523 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks David. Cream is definitely a great product but makes for crappy SOTD pics as it gets used!
@stricklandpropane86 2 жыл бұрын
@@ojshaves1523 yeah so true 🤣
@sbaluba 2 жыл бұрын
Proraso green is super classic of italian professional and personal barbering, I love it. Try red first in winter time for more protection and density and the single blade series, a bit more pricey but awesome
@ojshaves1523 2 жыл бұрын
Proraso Red will NOTICEABLY soften your beard hair. There’s a good reason many barbershops use Proraso Red. Gotta love the classic green scent though!
@sterlingcampbell2116 5 ай бұрын
They use it because it's cheap and available. Definitely countless better products out there.
@melanisticmandalorian 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing the review, Mr. juice. :p
@ojshaves1523 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@Dmlev 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this comparison! That was just what I was looking for! But you had to compare both new soap and tube as they are both new version with Super formula. Besides I've heard that soap scent degrades a little with time, so your old soap could have less scent then the new tube cream. And yes, they have changed the formula in new version a little which is now called Super formula.
@gickojerke1262 2 жыл бұрын
I noticed it in particular with the red/green proraso. In the beginning the scent was very strong and didn't appeal to me but as soon as it mellowed out a bit it became one of my favourites. The cream didn't change in scent at all but also wasn't as potent in the beginning. Performance is very close, I still prefer the soaps for my morning ritual and due to practicality (easy to stack, no tears like the tubes might get, etc)
@ojshaves1523 Жыл бұрын
I’ve since used a new bowl and my evaluation hasn’t changed. One thing I have changed is I no longer put a wet brush into the bowl to swirl out soap. Instead I now scrape out a bit with a spoon and press it in a bowl. The soap in the jar looks and feels new much longer and doesn’t seem to dry out.
@Lstanfield 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve never used the cream, but I’m so satisfied with the soap I can’t imagine the cream would be better. I guess if you bowl lather that might be a difference factor. But I prefer to make my lather on my face. The Proraso green super formula soap is a great product. Another thing that is worth mentioning, is that Proraso makes an aftershave talc which really finishes off your shave with a nice matte finish. 7 months later Well now I tried the tube, and found it to be terrific and every bit as good as the soap. But I still give the soap a slight edge because I don’t usually bowl lather. I go right from the soap to my face.
@ojshaves1523 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Lawrence, I was of the same mind but then I tried the cream. Not to say it's better - it's not.. but it can be more convenient and I think it will have a longer shelf life for those of us with tons of stuff. I've been bowl lathering almost exclusively for the past 2 months and have pretty much sold myself on this way going forward. I'm finding the water control aspect to be far superior and it makes brush size much less critical since it doesn't need to hold all the lather anymore. Plus I just feel cooler now and more like a grandpa. I haven't tried the Proraso Talc yet but I do sprinkle a bit of the Clubman talc on my head from time to time to dull the shine and make it smoother. I think the Proraso Talc has some menthol in it if I recall so I'll have to give it a go. Thanks for watching!
@Lstanfield 2 жыл бұрын
@@ojshaves1523 It’s been a while since I posted my experience with the soap and I tried the cream in the tube. You’re right and I can certainly appreciate the cream. It is a great product.
@10floz30minutes Жыл бұрын
Preference on which Lathering, hard to say. I like the results better for face-lathering but I have better control for bowl lathering. I start ALL my latherings in a bowl. I either continue mixing water in the bowl, OR I paint the concentrated mix on my face and add more water to the face.
@bunker1303 3 ай бұрын
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@10floz30minutes Жыл бұрын
Good Practical Conclusion! The form of packaging for the hard soap (and its higher concentration) is better than the cream in the tube, but this is mostly opinion.
@10floz30minutes Жыл бұрын
I wonder how the two soaps (one as a cream in tube) would compare if the sampling was done strictly on nonvolatile mass; same amount of nonvolatile mass to make a lather of the puck and of the cream. That would be the best way to find a comparison or difference.
@oldschoolshaving 2 жыл бұрын
Great Video! As a head shaver I loved the comparison. Very unique video and great detail and dialogue. Is this comparison copyrighted?🤣
@ojshaves1523 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback! I'd love to watch your version of the same thing! :)
@buddyblankenship4186 2 жыл бұрын
I really like the Proaso red (scent & performance) , but I’m not a fan of the green , I just can’t take the smell of anything menthol . I’ve heard the after shave(green) don’t smell like soap . I really like my Jaws Game Changer .84 , one of my favorite DE’s
@theluxuryshavinghobbyist Жыл бұрын
Just found your channel and subscribed. Nice content! Regards, Glenn
@ojshaves1523 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Glenn!
@Anthony-xe5db 2 жыл бұрын
I have both Green and Red. Soap, Tube, Can Foam. I found the tube cream to be more in control of lathering and slicker and also stronger scent than soap. The soap was strong for the first few shaves but mellowed down. Maybe because of exposure to air when top is open or soap drying out more over time. The can has a much lighter scent in both green and red (there’s also blue and yellow and white in can). However, don’t misjudge the foamy can with Proraso. It’s not the cheap $3.00 can lather you get in the store. It’s $9.00 for a 10.3 oz can, and it’s thick. With the regular foamy can brands you get a airy kind of water down foam but Proraso it’s very thick and a little squirt is all you need, and has the slickness of the cream without the dryness of the store bought foamy cans. However the smell is very light and doesn't stay but a few minuets after you shave. I use the can version on days I just don’t have time to do the cream or soap brush up shave because of work or busy or overslept or whatever lol. So I would say tube cream over soap, and the can version over all other can brands for a “don’t have time to lather up shave today for whatever reason” days of shaving or traveling. Can version: www.amazon.com/Proraso-Shaving-Foam-Refreshing-Toning/dp/B008F9LRH8/ref=sr_1_8?crid=3E45452OCL8PE&keywords=Proraso+block&qid=1646024316&sprefix=proraso+block%2Caps%2C143&sr=8-8
@ojshaves1523 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Anthony. Thanks for your insight and overall I agree. I’ve seen the foam and remained curious if it was any good. For me my ‘don’t have time to shave soap’ is generally TOBS or Body Shop MACA Root (very underrated! - It’s GREAT). Few quick swirls in the container and straight to the head or face. It’s very fast to get going.
@psyber84 2 ай бұрын
Great video! I like Proraso because they offer great value and most people can afford it. I cannot chose between red, green and white. I think the green/eucalyptus one is great for the hotter days since it provides a cooler sense. I suggest you try greek artisans like the Grooming Cult company. I prefer bowl lathering. Do you prefer ceramic bowls? They might feel a bit more premium but they are breakable!
@kirkbest3238 Жыл бұрын
I lather both of those together in the bowl
@ojshaves1523 Жыл бұрын
Will have to try that out!
@more_on_nick Жыл бұрын
Hey hi weird question: did the tube of cream happen to come sealed under the cap with perhaps an aluminum or plastic tab? I got some online and it seemed like it wasn’t brand new, including the fact that there wasn’t a tab seal..
@ojshaves1523 Жыл бұрын
I do not think that any of my tubes had a seal.
@gyulaolah3172 3 ай бұрын
I welcome you! We your opinion, mejk the best razor soap, you are a razor cream?
@richarddewitt3457 2 жыл бұрын
Do all handles fit all heads or do companies make the proprietary…? I’m new to this.
@ojshaves1523 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Richard. Yes almost every handle will fit every razor. They actually seemed to coordinate on the thread size! There may be some exceptions but generally yes they seem to be interchangeable across different heads and manufacturers.
@10floz30minutes Жыл бұрын
Are the formulas the same only differing in concentrations? Maybe check the listing of ingredients - maybe. Other than that, only the Proraso company knows.
@Capt4141 2 жыл бұрын
Pro green cologne would be amazing
@ojshaves1523 2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for them to get with it and give us what we all want!
@MrHeromantt 2 жыл бұрын
Ничего не понял,но интересно)
@annonemus21 Жыл бұрын
which one lasts longer? If both cream and soap have the same quantities, which one would last longer? I wanna find out which one will save me money.
@ojshaves1523 Жыл бұрын
Good question but I think soap would win easily.
@GregTardif 2 жыл бұрын
Cream is great for a quick lather and efficient shave (to me)…my face is not a proraso fan
@ojshaves1523 2 жыл бұрын
Cream is very efficient and I always reach for TOBS or something else when I'm in a rush. I'm just getting started down the tube journey. Lots of proraso to choose from my friend...one is sure to like your face.
@GregTardif 2 жыл бұрын
@@ojshaves1523 fine has some good tubes
@molonlabe9602 2 жыл бұрын
Compare Proraso green and C. O Bigelow green. You might like Bigelow better even though the rumor is that Proraso produces the Bigelow cream for them.
@paulw7647 2 жыл бұрын
It’s not a rumor, it’s literally written on the tube.
@ojshaves1523 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip! I will have to look them up.
@CraigRasmussen1 10 ай бұрын
This is a good debate….you can’t be wrong. For me….it’s a matter of convenience. I bowl lather and like about a 5 in wide bowl for good brush action. It is just easier to squeeze an almond size dap out of the tube and then start lathering. With the tub….I would scrape some soap out of the tub into the bowl and then start lathering. I can’t see lathering out of the tub…and then finishing in my bowl for best lather. Easier to use the tube. That’s why they sell both.
@Coconutboy66 3 ай бұрын
Im gettin irritation from the cream but not from the soap both same line (white one)
@ricardoaguilar7810 9 ай бұрын
Only on my day off I do bowl leather
@MB-qw8yc Жыл бұрын
👍👍👍perfect
@jimgee2676 Жыл бұрын
i find they are equal except for the fact that the cream gets used up faster than the tub ....the tub lasts so much longer ..i can use 1 tub to 3 tubes , so basicly you save money by buying the tub
@j.aghorbani5197 2 жыл бұрын
use a feather AS D2
@pkj77 2 жыл бұрын
only bowl lather
@ojshaves1523 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a plan! I have a lot of space on my head to make lather too. LOL
@spinningbacksidekick Жыл бұрын
The soap lasts longer. They both give great shaves.
@landshark9554 Жыл бұрын
I saw lather from cream was thicker than soap.
@johnathonnichols 2 жыл бұрын
It seems to me that the tub is cheaper to use and the tube is easier to use. Storage wise the tub wins. Proraso red in a tube is one of my favorites because of it's scent and ease of use..
@ojshaves1523 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Borwish. The storage aspect is certainly a key one and I've now started keeping my boxes, especially for the tubes so they will be easier to stack and store. I'll be making my way through all the tubes and am looking forward to trying the red one. Cost is definitely a factor for some and will remain a consideration.
@chrisp.frye-noodles8761 Жыл бұрын
Cream all the way! Another good cream tube is C.O. Bigelow's.
@user-lf5yj8rt5y 2 жыл бұрын
The same goes for TOBS. Creams have stronger scent!
@ojshaves1523 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting! Scent was definitely an aspect I wasn't expecting to be different.
@Ben59910 Жыл бұрын
I prefer the cream
@ericjencson9489 Жыл бұрын
Plenty of cream
@chucklachance 2 жыл бұрын
Bowl lathering all the way.
@ojshaves1523 2 жыл бұрын
I'm starting to agree! I've been bowl lathering for last 2 months almost exclusively and really enjoying it. I'm pretty sold on this way going forward.
@chucklachance 2 жыл бұрын
@@ojshaves1523 I have been a wee shaver for years. My grandfather used Proraso, my dad used Old Spice. The only way to shave.
@ojshaves1523 2 жыл бұрын
There are too many products on the market now to just stick to one. Lol. But bowl lathering is definitely my way forward now.
@chucklachance 2 жыл бұрын
@@ojshaves1523 Don Youngner from Wet The Face has really nice soaps and aftershaves. You should check him out.
@tarikatav.shotgun 11 ай бұрын
İyiymiş
@logcom482 2 жыл бұрын
Better will by laser depilation😄.Maybe after my 30 I will by having same issue like you.✌👋😄
@ojshaves1523 2 жыл бұрын
HAHA! Some become follicly challenged early in life! My only regret about shaving my head is why I didn't do it sooner. Everyone should try it once, balding or not!
@logcom482 2 жыл бұрын
@@ojshaves1523 but I think now maybe better will be pay ~5 000$ for transplantation of the hair and save money in the shaving head 🤔?I looked to ILon Mask at the 90th hi was without hair and now hi have nice hair 🤷♂️. Thanks for advice😉✌👋
@ojshaves1523 2 жыл бұрын
I never spent a cent trying to bring my hair back and am so glad I shaved it all off. I've heard of all sort of stories and huge expenditure to get transplants etc. I find it crazy!
@logcom482 2 жыл бұрын
@@ojshaves1523 maybe you right but if I will be very rich I will by tried 😄.-Im joking 😄.Thanks for answer and advice.Not fare will be New Year so I want to say to you:"Happy New Year!!! 🙂"✌👋👋👋👋
@3stooges242 2 жыл бұрын
Mug lathering!!!!!!!!
@ojshaves1523 2 жыл бұрын
One must own mugs first! LOL. All I have is bowls. haha. Do you wedge a puck in the mug?
@MrFinally24 2 жыл бұрын
Cream much better imo
@ojshaves1523 2 жыл бұрын
It's certainly more convenient especially as the products age. The soap can dry out but the cream doesn't seem to suffer from that.. yet. Time will tell.
@toddd7444 7 ай бұрын
HERE IS AN EASY WAY TO DO IT MY FRIENDs" I Do any Shave Pucks or hard Soaps are going to work? You can mix and match old Soaps? to fit in any Mugs or Cups that you like to use. Like (Mitchells' Wool Fat or Arko Shave Soaps just to name a few of the ones you could use?) Cut the bar soap up on a paper plate, pour the soap, shavings and chunks from your plate into a mug, cover the soap with a small amount of water, microwave the cup, put your paper plate under your cup in case it bubbles out of your cup? for a minute or so? If it foams up, STOP. The water keeps it from burning itself up. (DON'T OVER WATER YOUR SOAP??) Easy, does it? Let cool don't want to Crack the Mugs or Cups you're using? (You just want it to Congeal in your Mug or Cup') it is very hot and watery'''''. let it cool in place. after it cools, put it in the Sun, until the Soap hardens? When using your soaps, use Dry Brush Less Water. It thickens the soap, making it easier to use on your face. For its (Price Point?)' (I use Dove Bar Soaps?) (the Use any Soaps Out there ??) Save your Money, spend it on your wife, don't listen to the shave Mafia. I have been doing this for the last 20 years. It saves me time and Money in these Inflationary Times Wheelchair Larry Happy New Year.
@daniele5713 2 жыл бұрын
not much difference (if any) between the two. The formula should be the same. In terms of tradition, the tube is the "original" version, meaning this is the form factor in which it was released by Proraso to start with back in the day.
@ojshaves1523 2 жыл бұрын
Certainly seem very similar. Used both several times since the video and it really seems to boil down to convenience and preference.
@toddd7444 8 ай бұрын
my Simpson T3 Trafalgar is the best brush on the market today it's like buying a $200 badger hair brush, no cleaning the brush, no need for a brush stand, fast drying time, well not fall apart like a badger hair can, cheap to buy, i have owned it for 5 years with know problems head shaver try Derby black best for the money wheelchair Larry
@brijanjekodzonija985 2 жыл бұрын
For mee is not the same, the cream its much bether, bether smel and bether leather much much bether
@vanillamuffinssugaroipunkc2456 7 ай бұрын
washing powder, awful.. far to aggressive!
@toddd7444 5 ай бұрын
your wife may say you are spending your money on just Proraso soap it's about time you spend it on me for a change? you my get more of what you what out of you for a change NO MONEY NO LOVE FACT that's what my wife said to me hugs larry
@SuperBROKEN81 Жыл бұрын
I know this is old, but I find the tub lasts longer than the cream.
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