Is bigger REALLY better when it comes to off road tyres? Graham Cahill from Australian 4WD Action unpacks the pros and cons of running bigger tyre sizes. Explore Bridgestone Dueler www.bridgeston...
Пікірлер: 131
@franklinhowell63426 жыл бұрын
33s, I agree. Unless you have a specific mission and change the gearing.
@DavidVoxDem3 жыл бұрын
I find it funny how Shauno is usually the one with the biggest tires and even a V8 in the convoy but he's always the one getting stuck.
@ianmoone23593 жыл бұрын
Given this is a few years old now, a point not covered on these latest crop of 2020 & 2021 vehicles is the various forms of “AI” “Driver Assist” technologies, like lane keeping and auto braking etc. The latest owners manuals specifically state that changing suspension, rims and tyres can compromise the pre-programmed software for these technology’s and that you should stick with the OEM supplied suspension, rims & tyres for this reason. As far as I know I’ve not seen any 4WD suspension specialists & Offroad Tyre & Wheels shops offering to “re-flash / re-calibrate” the on board ECM / Computer to compensate for suspension & body lifts, or different size width and offset rims or even larger rolling circumference tyres? Nothings as easy as what it once was, with all these new technologies unfortunately.
@pigeonsniper6676 жыл бұрын
The cost difference between 33's 35's and 40's here in Canada is 50 bucks per step. You can get a set of 35 inch in just about every tire shop in the country. The farther out of the big cities the more big tires you'll find the shops have in stock. As for overworking the engines( yes I know your running diesel power) do you guys know to regear your diff's to correct for larger tires. My 2016 Tacoma came with 265/65R17( 30.6") tires and 4.30 gears. Move to 35" and in goes the two lockers and news 4.88 gears. My ratios are now back to factory specs. The speedometer and odometer measure correctly as well. 140 Km/h and it's only off by 1.2 Km/h. Which is closer than with the factory 4.3 gears.
@rajivc72546 жыл бұрын
pigeonsniper thank you. I had no clue that was necessary! Is the regear process pricey?
@pigeonsniper6676 жыл бұрын
A ring and pinion for front and rear will run you about $320 to $410(CDN) for each axle. You will need an install kit for each axle. If you got a new truck, a Minor install kit is all you need( $110-$135Cdn) if your truck is a couple years old get a master install kit($380-450cdn) and replace all the bearings and races well you have the diff open. If you use a minor install kit on an older axle, you'll just have to open it "AGAIN" in a couple years to do the bearings and races. You will want to have the gears( this is a great time to get the locker install well you have the diff open) installed at a quality shop. I am not going to say the guy down the street can't do it in the Garage, but if he's not going to warranty the work for a few years, find a shop. A good shop will cost you a few dollars, but they will also give you a warranty on the work. There is pretty high quality control, and the manufacture knows it is going to get abused, they plan and design for that, but defects can happen. That is what the warranty is for. A good shop will just replace it, and then deal with the Manufacture to have them replace the defective one. You don't have to put out all the money at one time. 1) buy a gear set( Ring and pinion) 2) buy the second one if you only bought the one 3) buy an install kit 4) buy a second one if you only bought the one. Optional 1) buy REAR locker( if you can only afford one it should be in the rear), 2) buy front locker. Hope this helps. You should also use an on-line calculator to find the "CORRECT" ratio you need with the larger tires, don't just "guess" or go with what ever one else used. My Tacoma and the Wife's 4runner both came with 265/65R17 tires, but the stock gears are different ratios because one is an Auto, and the other is a Manual. This should give you a start. www.offroaders.com/info/tech-corner/reading/calculators.htm
@rajivc72546 жыл бұрын
pigeonsniper thank you so much for the quick and detailed reply!
@chiptechgore6 жыл бұрын
this applies to australia mate where our factory vehicles come with 31's and we upgrade to 33's, where as your american rigs would come with those stock
@pigeonsniper6676 жыл бұрын
No a Canadian/US Tacoma come with 245/65/17( tiny 29.5" little donuts ) on a lot of the models., some models are offered with a 265/65/17 upgrade. and the TRD OFF ROAD, and TRD SPORT come with them standard, but that is still only a 30.6"(31") So no we got little stock tires just like you.
@TigerNgtMare4 жыл бұрын
33’ it is!! Thank you. Keep on making great videos. My boys and I love watching them.
@pb85823 жыл бұрын
He doesn't run 33 his runs 31... 265 75 R16 are not even 32...
@ricdonato43288 ай бұрын
Turn on CC Closed Caption. The CC button reads Subtitles/closed captions unavailable. For those of us with hearing difficulties, CC is a major help understanding what you are saying. Thank you.
@mjkknives94834 жыл бұрын
Sponsorship makes these lads less than trustworthy now, can not trust a brought opinion.
@Dav9633 жыл бұрын
Sponsorships makes these guys have money to pay production, get your head out of your ass....
@Miggy2j3 жыл бұрын
The videos wouldn't be possible without sponsorship.
@Alock943 жыл бұрын
At least they "brought" their own opinion. Would of been a different if it was bought.
@ian9toes3 жыл бұрын
*bought
@davidhuett35793 жыл бұрын
@@Dav963 .. it pays for MORE than production .. otherwise they wouldn't be doing it!!
@marktate34316 жыл бұрын
Um.... 265/75/R16 are 31.6" not 33" ...also best to check the legals on going to larger tyres on vehicles with traction control.
@FloridaNative835 жыл бұрын
Mark Tate Was it a 265/75/16 or a 285/75/16?
@benjaminprince64244 жыл бұрын
@@FloridaNative83 I didn't read in the info but they looked like 265/75/16, which is the size I have been using on my hilux for years, didn't look wide enough to be 285 when watched the front shot of the dmax.
@madrx26 жыл бұрын
With a two inch lift I thought the largest legal tire size that can be put on a dmax or colorado is 32inch or 265/75/16
@camfam520026 жыл бұрын
You're right. + one fitment in most states afaik. ie; Prado 120 placard 265/65R17 to 265/70R17, no legal or insurance issues. That gives you almost 32"
@intimatespearfisher5 жыл бұрын
Correct
@tshephard27932 жыл бұрын
You can get it engineered for bigger. I'm sure 24/7 have the cash/ sponsors for that. So wouldn't be an issue
@madrx22 жыл бұрын
@@tshephard2793 they don't though most the time. All the p platers copy and chuck 35's on half the time get in a crash and learn the hard way trying to claim insurance. O well
@ajhami89736 жыл бұрын
Other thing is legality - 33’s are illegal on that dmax and on a lot of 4x4’s depending on what they come with standard.... in NSW anyway.
@pb85823 жыл бұрын
His tyres are 31... 265 75 R16...
@Bush_Tucker3 жыл бұрын
@@pb8582 31.8 so it's closer to a 32 then 31
@kyleedgerton36982 жыл бұрын
@@Bush_Tucker 31.6" to be precise.
@davidhardenberg53822 жыл бұрын
I thought he said they are 33’s
@kyleedgerton36982 жыл бұрын
@@davidhardenberg5382 nope.
@trailbunny23096 жыл бұрын
Are they 33’s? Size of individual tire shown is 265/75 R16. That’s more a 32’. Only asking as looking for something similar for my BT 50
@partygamer996 жыл бұрын
i thought the same 33s are 285/75/16
@partygamer996 жыл бұрын
prett sure his just running 2 inch lift with 265/75/16
@trailbunny23096 жыл бұрын
JUICY seems to still go well for that.
@aadityamundhalia6 жыл бұрын
it's 31.6 for isuzu you don't need lift kit to fit those it fits in factory suspension but very close. I do think he got a lift as well about 35mm to keep cv's happy.
@TheAmazingGrace26 жыл бұрын
Ben Sanders that what I was thinking. When Graham said his running 33s I was like hang on LT265/75R16 is a 32 inch.
@robertom8836 жыл бұрын
Personally I think 33 inch tires are the ideal size for a 4 wheel drive vehicle that’s going to be driven on and off road. But then it just depends, if you are looking to see what’s the biggest rock you can climb with your 4x4 there will no tire big enough and no higher lift that can fit in you truck. The sky is the limit. At the end of the day is your truck your money do whatever you like with it.
@AZTLANSOLDIER136 жыл бұрын
A lot of regulations/laws in Australia. Still one of the coolest places on Earth. A dream to go.
@jarrodgavenlock46283 жыл бұрын
Best country in the world well so far anyway lol
@immelting98342 жыл бұрын
@@jarrodgavenlock4628 this comment didn't age well
@jarrodgavenlock46282 жыл бұрын
@@immelting9834 haha ai fuckk
@dommonte35074 жыл бұрын
Maximum ht allowed in W.A is a 2 inch lift, which supposed to include suspension and tyres, pretty stupid law if you want to gain a further 1 inch in ht from your tyres
@jordynedwards561211 ай бұрын
Yeah mate, im suffering rn coz of that!! The hell haha
@ReecePowell6 жыл бұрын
Awesome info vid! Love it👊👊👊
@ljh_02886 жыл бұрын
No Bridgestone for me, I would go for maxxis, mickey Thompson or bfgoodrich tires
@titaniumquarrion98385 жыл бұрын
Go for Cooper AT3s. :-)
@jasestrong6 жыл бұрын
Great advice Graham! I completely agree with you. I run 285 BFG KO2 AT’s on my Toyota Truck.
@phantomwalker82516 жыл бұрын
becouse thats all itll handle.toyota suck,big time,you let your 33" tires down,you got 29".i only run 35".for that reason,.
@markleach19746 жыл бұрын
Can some one tell me what the actual wheels are please? they look great! not the tyres but the rims he has on his dmax there.
@roshansamasi5 жыл бұрын
Moto Metal
@drkhalidadventurer17213 жыл бұрын
Any leads. ... Upgrading tyres of my 2.5 dmax manual from 30inch to 285/75 r16 (approx 33), dose I really need to upgrade gear ratio, 90% of usage will be at tarmac 10% offroading, their will be no towing (trailer) at all... Thanks
@kyleedgerton36982 жыл бұрын
gear ration will not be worth it. not too mention you'll be illegal on the 33s stick with a 31 if you're 90% tarmac. or at most 265/75/16
@kyleedgerton36982 жыл бұрын
He's running 32s in this video. Just incase anyone is curious. Not 33s
@cameronembrey23896 жыл бұрын
Graham i thought shorty had 35's for one dvd
@toms_gupooe6 жыл бұрын
Cameron Embrey It did. I remember him saying that, and he said they rubbed like a bitch.
@samuelkidney52116 жыл бұрын
He had them on for Yalwal or something
@blackhulk51626 жыл бұрын
Very helpful
@sholtomay73726 жыл бұрын
Is this a bridgestone ad? They dont make 35's?.... i have 35's on my manual landcruiser. Where i go driving have been in big ruts that other cars get stuck in from smaller tyres.
@gavinbecker19236 жыл бұрын
Amazing !! And a few pages down Graham is showing off his own personal 4x4 with Cooper Discoverer tyres on !!! What the !!!
@mrdonny35015 жыл бұрын
Hi Graham. Looking at getting 2018 D max LS-U twin cab. Stock tyre size is 255/65R17. What lift would i need to run AT 265/70R17 and what size would it class as in 31s 32s or 33s.
@bluefunkenator5 жыл бұрын
check tiresize.com, it allows you to do comparisons and calculate sizes in mm or inches etc.
@gs68104 жыл бұрын
Wait so are you running 31's or 33's because you are saying 33 but you are showing a 31?
@MrFastFarmer3 жыл бұрын
33s are illegal on the DMAX
@kyleedgerton36982 жыл бұрын
265/75/16 is considered a 32
@janjuulmortensen25805 жыл бұрын
How much lift is needed on the D-max to support the 33"?
@T1000.Android5 жыл бұрын
Standard 2 inch
@607CHA5 жыл бұрын
And chop the body mount.
@rjl1109195815 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU FOR DETAIL VIDEO
@SamSam-ig9sz4 жыл бұрын
is it possible to fit 33 inch tyre on isuzu dmax with 2 inch lift ? lets say 285/70/16
@BridgestoneAu4 жыл бұрын
Hi Gamer girl, Most states allow tyre diameter increase of up to 50mm over original tyres for proper 4WD vehicles, sometimes with a limit on suspension lift coming into this equation also. With your standard DMax tyres likely to have an overall diameter of ~760mm, the 33” (or 825mm) overall diameter size tyres are not likely to be an option for this particular vehicle. Please consult your state transport department for further information on this. Thanks, Bridgestone Australia
@SamSam-ig9sz4 жыл бұрын
@@BridgestoneAu thanks for information
@MrFastFarmer3 жыл бұрын
@@SamSam-ig9sz Good response Bridgestone. They are illegal, not covered by warranty or insurance. 31 is as big as it gets.
@Samrathbrarperth2 жыл бұрын
Hey mate, thanks for sharing video. Quick question, I have changed to bigger wheel 255/17/r18, but since then my rear brake start making noise when I put foot on brake Prior to changing tyre no issues. Brake pads checked and still has good life. Any tips or clue why?
@arj43816 жыл бұрын
does anyone know which canopy is on this dmax?
@T1000.Android5 жыл бұрын
ARB
@dcaonoek5 жыл бұрын
Thats an EGR not an ARB.. It comes as an option or standard on the TourMate version
@T1000.Android5 жыл бұрын
Bridgestone is a good tyre
@richardkd30486 жыл бұрын
There are no cons to larger tyres 🙌 as long as you set up you car with the correct gearing and have enough clearance and bump stops.
@adrianberg76765 жыл бұрын
Less of a turning circle,More cost, Less fuel-efficient and higher center of gravity just to name a few negatives.
@benjaminprince64244 жыл бұрын
Depending what kind of car you have there can be, I would say one con would be the money spent for car to handle them e.g gearing, UCA's etc. But if done right it's very worthwhile.
@phantomwalker82516 жыл бұрын
AND,,,tireb sizes are usualy 1" less than stated,very hard to find 35" that are 35".
@maresalatime4 жыл бұрын
Did i just watch an ad?
@MrFastFarmer3 жыл бұрын
Everything is an ad mate..
@adithyasudhakar70814 жыл бұрын
That black Isuzu is absolute weapon of choices.. black's great colour. Brown colour sucks.
@kyleedgerton36982 жыл бұрын
black is the worst colour.
@jase666ify2 жыл бұрын
Hate to break it to you graham but those aren't 33s hahaha 31.5
@RBFR016 жыл бұрын
Bigger the tyres the better and thats fact but you can run whatever sizes you want, personally I'd got 35's.
@Technoplasm6 жыл бұрын
Sassy Sasquatch wadiyatalkinabeet
@livenloud66976 жыл бұрын
Sassy Sasquatch yes bigger is always better especially if you have a small penis you can buy big tires and try and compensate in this area with tyres perhaps it said that your penis does not get any bigger
@livenloud66976 жыл бұрын
Sassy Sasquatch once more tyres on a Dino than watch what happens when you put big tires on
@chrisoh66276 жыл бұрын
Lay off the drugs sassy lol
@41magfan6 жыл бұрын
I need thicker rubber
@41magfan6 жыл бұрын
Traction
@jjt10935 жыл бұрын
Dammit graham Well said so 265/75 it will be for me :( smart choice :)
@gs68104 жыл бұрын
265/75 is 31.6 inches
@mahmoudeisa51854 жыл бұрын
Isuzu storng
@stevegoodwin58413 жыл бұрын
Put 33s on a MY21 Dmax in Victoria you are unroadworthy. Biggest legal tyre on my MY18 Dmax in Victoria is 255/70R16. The biggest hurdle is the ESC system. Can't go bigger tyre without Isuzu saying your ESC system will not be effected. Other alternative is to get Engineering tested then certifed approval of your ESC system still operating correctly if going bigger than biggest diameter in the Dmax range.
@kyleedgerton36982 жыл бұрын
this information is all wrong. 255/70/16 is 30.1" the highest you can go on a colorado/dmax is 265/75/16 or 265/70/17 or if you wanna stick with 18" rims. 265/65/18 they're all equivalent to 31.6" aka "32s" this will keep you out of trouble with the law/insurer/dealer
@Bandit-10-46 жыл бұрын
Your comments on tires are slightly offset because you're running little 4 cylinder Diesel's tire size is an important factor the bigger you go the more grunt you need to turn them when you're driving a 4.5 V8 Diesel and you have 650 Newton metres of torque driving 35 that perfect for the car they give better fuel economy and better traction the skinnier tires just don't grip enough for the talk you need to have big wide tyres 305 /35's are a perfect tyer for my V8 LandCruiser instead of Spinning wheels everywhere I can put the power to the ground so tyer size should be matched to your power and talk when you start blanketing every car under the same umbrella then you're talking crap
@derrick92456 жыл бұрын
Tru Blu many d40s have been reported with a cracked/split chasis i can mention alot more if you want me too. I generally shake my head at any d40 owner *shakes head*
@derrick92456 жыл бұрын
Tru Blu i can agree with you its a gutless v8 but its gutless for a reason for reliability its got so much torque so the engine really doesn't work hard at all, it drives very nicely from lower revs because of such torque which means double the reliability Where as a d40 when the engine is working harder all the time because of its sheer amount of power is relies on which means higher revs past 3500
@derrick92456 жыл бұрын
Tru Blu good for you hence completely missing the point
@derrick92456 жыл бұрын
Tru Blu i see a lot more landcruisers than d40s mate that tells me alot you will be lucky to make it to the store in your st13
@derrick92456 жыл бұрын
Tru Blu 4.2 or 4.5?
@phantomwalker82516 жыл бұрын
brigestone,or originaly stone bridge in japanese,are crap these days,cant beat bf,m/t,or any u.s tire.