Prosecution recounts fatal Apple River stabbing

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The moments leading up to the fatal Apple River stabbing were reviewed in the prosecution's opening statements.
Nicolae Miu, 54, is facing charges of first-degree intentional homicide for the death of 17-year-old Isaac Schuman and multiple counts of attempted first-degree intentional homicide for his alleged role in the stabbings on July 30, 2022.
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@Stoned_Silly
@Stoned_Silly Ай бұрын
This is why i dont like being around people drinking alcohol....
@user-dh2fs8nd5w
@user-dh2fs8nd5w Ай бұрын
Especially badly raised underage 16 and 17 year old failures getting drunk drinking alcohol..
@cjdodgeprimecrime
@cjdodgeprimecrime Ай бұрын
Same!!
@PatchouliStef
@PatchouliStef Ай бұрын
They're very unpredictable and can go from happy to violent in a split second. I hate bars and I don't like being near drunk people either!
@bub7771
@bub7771 Ай бұрын
Right! Especially all those underage kids that were drinking.
@white_genocide2050
@white_genocide2050 Ай бұрын
They are white
@bigbad-rl9ol
@bigbad-rl9ol Ай бұрын
This is why I rather stay on my property and just spend time with my dogs people are plum crazy these days.....😢
@dawnr5158
@dawnr5158 Ай бұрын
I can’t agree with you enough! In all honesty sometimes animals are much better company, they love unconditionally and they don’t argue with you!! I worked on a horse farm for about 10 years and I loved it, I’ll take a job working around animals any day then working around humans!! 😊🙏👍
@DG-mh1ss
@DG-mh1ss Ай бұрын
Exactly. me too. Id rather hand out with my dogs any day all day..
@duzntmatter5926
@duzntmatter5926 Ай бұрын
Agee but those ‘kids’ were horrible bullies
@MichaelJo111
@MichaelJo111 Ай бұрын
Diddo!...it's sad you can't just go out and have a good time without drama or go for a nice little drive without some dick trying to cut you off or fly by you at double the speed limit because your doing "The speed limit." It's definitely not like it use to be. Times are changing....and not for the better. I can't stand negative energy, its such a Debbie Downer.
@k.c.8872
@k.c.8872 Ай бұрын
Agreed
@naffaog2567
@naffaog2567 24 күн бұрын
Imagine your mate gets stabbed and you all just leave him in the middle of the river to basically die, rather than try help him out the water….
@Drocakd
@Drocakd 14 күн бұрын
Easy to say when you’re not getting stabbed at
@naffaog2567
@naffaog2567 14 күн бұрын
Well it wasn’t like he was swing the knife around? He stabbed the lad and then basically was walking away from them all. The lad was laying in the water by himself while all his “mates” ran away and didn’t even attempt to go over to him even when the guy with the knife was no where near them…
@daniellecarmell2046
@daniellecarmell2046 14 күн бұрын
Such a lame comment … @naffaog256 luckily for you.. you weren’t there and really shouldn’t pass judgement on anyone that was there. I’m.. so if your mate got stabbed… what would you do different ?? Lol it’s really easy to act like you would have done better behind your keyboard 👋🏼
@naffaog2567
@naffaog2567 14 күн бұрын
Like I said in my last comment. It’s not like the man was wielding the knife around and going on a rampage. The lad was laid in the water for that long to the point he had to get himself up! While his mates stood there and just filmed him trying to walk. No one person ran over AFTER the man with the knife had walked away… and it wasn’t like it was only a couple of people there was a group a literally group! And not ONE went to help him get up… society today baffles me. Guess everyone’s brought up different 😂 “Everyone’s a gangsta till they get punched in the face”
@revekat2053
@revekat2053 13 күн бұрын
I don’t think they realize that rocks are deadly weapons and that’s what helped us to become who we are today. 🤷🏽‍♀️
@ejohansson9488
@ejohansson9488 27 күн бұрын
Lesson to be learned here, you rarely get stabbed for beeing polite, and respectfull...
@Hvanudetfornoget
@Hvanudetfornoget 25 күн бұрын
Being harrased doesn't really qualify for being stabbed to death, but i guess youre american lel
@lingling21100
@lingling21100 25 күн бұрын
For real xD just be respectful and 95% of the time you won't get stabbed. 5% you will meet a psychopath or someone whose just angry and want to kill but most people won't do this. Just be respectful and pratice mindfulness and nothing will happen
@OpinionParade
@OpinionParade 25 күн бұрын
*Thugs and criminals named:* A.J. Martin, Ryhley Mattison, Tony Carlson, Dante Carlson.
@Mkn28..
@Mkn28.. 24 күн бұрын
Deadly force only could be used in a DEADLY attack or threat situation. You don't stab or shoot people, ( in this case kids), for being slapped. As impolite, rude, or loathsome as those kids were. O.C spray? Ok ! But a knife or gun in this case, totally unnecessary and overreacted!
@alphaomicron8
@alphaomicron8 24 күн бұрын
@@Mkn28.. spoken like a true democrat, he was pushed, punched and had a hand on his neck, I am sure if you were in that situation you would have remained polite and not use deadly force till the light went out of your keybaord warrior eyes..
@qball6520
@qball6520 Ай бұрын
None of this would have happened if the mob didn't attack this man.
@davidandrews5262
@davidandrews5262 Ай бұрын
Also wouldn't have happened if he didn't approach the group of teens. Witch why did he? In of states, they could argue that he is an aggressor of the situation by starting the conversation. I think it's ultimately self defense. But it deppends on how you view this sort of thing. Or how the jury will view it.
@thisguy8373
@thisguy8373 Ай бұрын
​@davidandrews5262 😂 stop the bs...they fudged around an found out. Quit it....listen to the story then figure it out man.
@davidandrews5262
@davidandrews5262 Ай бұрын
@@thisguy8373 i say self defense. But other states and cases have precedent that would say duty to retreat along with initial engaging party. Just depends on state and jury.
@LS-ns2jx
@LS-ns2jx Ай бұрын
He punched first, words don’t dictate your actions… grow up
@jimbeam-ru1my
@jimbeam-ru1my Ай бұрын
@@davidandrews5262 "they could argue that he is an aggressor of the situation by starting the conversation." You're an idiot if you think starting a conversation gives the other party the right to engage in violence.
@SuzeQKnits4997
@SuzeQKnits4997 Ай бұрын
Stuff like this is why i am happy to be an introvert and I truly enjoy spending time alone.....
@Jack-sk2el
@Jack-sk2el Ай бұрын
So sorry to hear that, life needs some level of Interaction albeit " Friendly positive interaction. 🤔
@amyburch3365
@amyburch3365 Ай бұрын
Jack, you don't understand the definition of introvert. We truly prefer being alone. We don't crave human interaction the same way extroverts do. And, for companionship, we usually have pets that we like more than people.
@Jack-sk2el
@Jack-sk2el Ай бұрын
@@amyburch3365 If we choose to isolate, how will society have a future with which to flourish ?
@tasha3939
@tasha3939 Ай бұрын
@@amyburch3365introvert here I desire human interactions but there are times when I want to be alone
@ThatGuy-sc5rx
@ThatGuy-sc5rx Ай бұрын
​@@Jack-sk2elcities are filled with absolutely desperstely lonely and miserable people. Being among a bunch of people doesnt inherently equal connection. Look at where society is at and headed. I dont think people choosing to withdraw from a sick world are the problem.
@_Tommmmmm_
@_Tommmmmm_ 4 күн бұрын
Amazing how you have the right to defend yourself in court but you don’t have the right to defend yourself in normal life…
@ryancalococci8389
@ryancalococci8389 3 сағат бұрын
He punched a girl in the face FIRST. It was all words until that point, so yeah, he will die in prison, and he forfeited those rights in that moment.
@unknownl8154
@unknownl8154 3 сағат бұрын
If that's true he's the aggressor but I need to see it
@unknownl8154
@unknownl8154 2 сағат бұрын
There is audio that he hit the girl before they jumped him so that throws out self defense. Looks like he also stabbed her first but I can't tell.
@bromontana8100
@bromontana8100 21 күн бұрын
These kids are going to get jumped if recognized in public. Prosecution also needs to put them in jail
@Theworstway
@Theworstway Ай бұрын
When a knife gets pulled out in a street fight… RUN FOR YOUR LIFE.
@Jack-sk2el
@Jack-sk2el Ай бұрын
or Learn to " Skill Up " 🤔
@Pbplayer48
@Pbplayer48 Ай бұрын
The surviving victims said they didn’t even know he had one. They thought they were being punched. It’s more about situational awareness; don’t put yourself in the fight or flight situation to begin with.
@offstage7
@offstage7 Ай бұрын
Did you even watch the video? They didn’t realize he was stabbing them until later
@yungjunkie666
@yungjunkie666 Ай бұрын
Run to who? The democrats you voted for?😂😂😂
@yungjunkie666
@yungjunkie666 Ай бұрын
​@@Pbplayer48WHO'S GOING TO TAKE THE ADVICE OF SOMEONE PRIVILEGED ENOUGH TO EVER BE IN THESE SITUATIONS💀
@kealynbosrock9905
@kealynbosrock9905 Ай бұрын
As someone who spent many summers on the Chattahoochee tubing....nothing is worse than a group of drunken tubers.
@mangos2888
@mangos2888 Ай бұрын
I've been to the Chattahoochee and the Apple River. The Apple River is a lot calmer and more shallow.
@carolbohm9654
@carolbohm9654 Ай бұрын
And egotistical old white men.
@kimsmith6342
@kimsmith6342 Ай бұрын
Maybe a creepy pervert punching woman stabbing kids for mocking him?
@lifeofbru8929
@lifeofbru8929 Ай бұрын
I could think of a few things worse...
@kealynbosrock9905
@kealynbosrock9905 Ай бұрын
@@lifeofbru8929 well then you've obviously never seen Deliverance.
@mrwrmr5114
@mrwrmr5114 22 күн бұрын
If my dad was in the same situation I wouldn't blame him.
@maria89
@maria89 8 күн бұрын
Your dad goes around charging kids being hostile and slapping teenage girls?
@22Epic
@22Epic 7 күн бұрын
But you wouldn't have been there to comment.
@Elle-gc8xc
@Elle-gc8xc 6 күн бұрын
He’s just stabbed like 5 people and for what?
@Dca9999
@Dca9999 5 күн бұрын
@@Elle-gc8xc he defended himself from
@vaati9364
@vaati9364 5 күн бұрын
@@Dca9999 Can you believe that Jawahn Cockfield still gets to play football at St. John’s University in Collegeville, MN after he got his friend killed?
@gameshow8602
@gameshow8602 Ай бұрын
''Nicolae Miu, 54, is facing charges of first-degree intentional homicide'' So what gives the right for a group of people to push and attack an older man whose looking for his phone? was he suppose to hope they just stop and dont go into a frenzy and beat him to death/drown
@truehighs7845
@truehighs7845 29 күн бұрын
when they actually probably stole the phone
@harveypolanski755
@harveypolanski755 28 күн бұрын
He was supposed to mind his own f-ing business and run over to attack them in the first place. He certainly shouldn't have punched a woman and then stabbed another woman in her back while running away.
@truehighs7845
@truehighs7845 28 күн бұрын
@@harveypolanski755 Are you the guy that was filming and that triggered everything the whole carnage? Because you are lying as much as him.
@claytonelkins4807
@claytonelkins4807 27 күн бұрын
@@harveypolanski755you havnt seen the video he never ran over to them and he didn’t start the attack.
@malikubaid1086
@malikubaid1086 27 күн бұрын
​@@harveypolanski755you need some mental health treatment...what are you even talking about?
@b.vo.
@b.vo. Ай бұрын
Moral of the story: leave people alone.
@willipad2277
@willipad2277 Ай бұрын
Opposite to what public school teaches: speak up when something is wrong
@b.vo.
@b.vo. Ай бұрын
@@willipad2277 the something that was wrong was the teenagers yelling at and attacking him. Should've left him alone instead of mob attacking him.
@NotableSavage2
@NotableSavage2 Ай бұрын
@@willipad2277 Yelling insults at people and taunting them, isn’t speaking up. It’s provocation. Good luck out there.
@bthemedia
@bthemedia Ай бұрын
Especially leave people alone who have a knife and are fighting back.
@HunterB738
@HunterB738 Ай бұрын
Yup! Mind your own business. That means you Murikans.
@beanieweenie91
@beanieweenie91 5 күн бұрын
so you're telling me that if a group of people comes and harasses me and starts calling me a pedo because i'm looking for a lost object and they start hitting me and pushing me and ganging up on me that i will then be prosecuted for defending myself....? that's what i am gathering from this.
@RaptureDragon1
@RaptureDragon1 Күн бұрын
Welcome to leftist america. Hurt someone ot steal for your own benefit and you'll be praised. Protect yourself or others and theyll destroy you.
@jerrymason7887
@jerrymason7887 23 сағат бұрын
Then you don't understand what happened.
@thesoultransferprotocol721
@thesoultransferprotocol721 18 сағат бұрын
Yes.
@thesoultransferprotocol721
@thesoultransferprotocol721 18 сағат бұрын
Yes.
@laurenholm8147
@laurenholm8147 17 сағат бұрын
These entitled young “men” incited violence and violence is what they received. That’s what I saw in the video. They attacked him in a way that you may find minimal but he was recovering from heart surgery. I think you should reconsider your opinion. That is all.
@RaeBae1012
@RaeBae1012 Ай бұрын
My step dad used to be abusive after drinking. It gave me PTSD. I am terrified of being around people that are drunk, and this further solidifies it. Alcohol truly brings out the worst in people...
@badmanskill1112
@badmanskill1112 27 күн бұрын
My dad did too and I'm sure I have it too. Grown men were terrified of him when he flipped out drunk, which was often when I was growing up. I always hated alcohol. It gets people to do the worst actions than any other drug.
@frankthetank77
@frankthetank77 24 күн бұрын
Sorry to hear,I deal with PTSD from my father...overcame what used to make me feel like a scared child around intoxicated people to when I was a man just be very agitated and wanting to be aggressive but bottled up..dealing with my adult sons alcoholism have resurfaced my ptsd...I hate what alcohol has brought to my life even tho I'm level headed to have a sociable like it should be about...I hate how it changes peoples demeanor
@kokoskokso
@kokoskokso 15 күн бұрын
It's involved in 50% of homicides
@SneakyDolly
@SneakyDolly 12 күн бұрын
I personally have lost so much to alcohol. I hate it. I don’t drink, my husband has been 18 years sober this year. My children hate it as well. They had to watch my parents drink themselves to death. It’s so hard growing up in that environment and I’m truly grateful and blessed to live a good healthy life today. I broke that cycle of addiction and poverty. It ends here with us.
@JJFrostMusic
@JJFrostMusic 12 күн бұрын
Im pretty chill and silly when drunk. Then guess that the worst of me lol
@NosActivated420
@NosActivated420 Ай бұрын
There's an old saying, you can spend a few seconds getting into trouble but a life time trying to get out of it. Don't mess with people you don't know.
@myblacklab7
@myblacklab7 Ай бұрын
Heck, don't mess with people you do know.
@taxxzempt3576
@taxxzempt3576 Ай бұрын
The people I know seem worse then those who I do not know! Ya feel me?
@myblacklab7
@myblacklab7 Ай бұрын
@@google_is_a_criminal I dunno. Didn't he silently approach them, then grab kids in the boat for no apparent reason? It's a weird case, but I wouldn't rush to judgment so quickly.
@TGravy-wp4rc
@TGravy-wp4rc Ай бұрын
​@@myblacklab7yea they didn't watch the video before commenting as most don't I realize...
@victormaldonado4591
@victormaldonado4591 Ай бұрын
@@TGravy-wp4rcyeah this guy is a murderer
@pineywoodsriders2184
@pineywoodsriders2184 Ай бұрын
Apple river has a long history of drunken fights. My friends and I narrowly escaped a situation on that river when we were young. Never went back. To many crazy people
@ABDULLAH86SA
@ABDULLAH86SA Ай бұрын
You mean crazy Karen's and rednecks
@slappy8941
@slappy8941 Ай бұрын
TO many? Is that the same as "from few"? 😂😂😂 JFC...
@ukmedicfrcs
@ukmedicfrcs Ай бұрын
KZfaq has a long history of fights as well. Just look at the comments here. 🙄
@MarceliousLavante
@MarceliousLavante Ай бұрын
@@slappy8941 I bet you have tons of friends.
@MarceliousLavante
@MarceliousLavante Ай бұрын
@@ukmedicfrcsstfu and show us your bobz
@Rebel1280
@Rebel1280 25 күн бұрын
Cant believe he was found guilty after so many of the kids were underage and drunk too. At some point people gotta start taking action against this.
@fleapo0p2946
@fleapo0p2946 11 күн бұрын
he was found guilty because he killed someone. get that in you're head. there was something seriously wrong with that man too
@darksideblues135
@darksideblues135 13 сағат бұрын
Right. I could tell, the way Nicolae moved, he was pretty hammered.
@musicbruise
@musicbruise Сағат бұрын
@@fleapo0p2946 Fucking thank you, holy fuck a rational person in this comments section jesus fuck I can't believe I had to look this hard
@y09p
@y09p 22 күн бұрын
Why cant the court watch the video, what is this 1875???
@EandE-podcast
@EandE-podcast 13 күн бұрын
If that’s the defense for the teens then the video is damning, it’s better to take the video frame by frame and try to convince the jury of whatever he thinks the justification is
@kelceynicole
@kelceynicole 11 күн бұрын
@@EandE-podcastthank you. that makes sense!
@venturini09
@venturini09 9 күн бұрын
Watching the video wouldn’t allow the prosecution to paint his own version of the story because the video shows them mobbing and screaming at the defendant like they’re wanting to lynch him.
@executivecarrot3420
@executivecarrot3420 9 күн бұрын
​@@venturini09 Doesn't the video show them doing exactly that? Old man was down in the water and they still kept going at him
@venturini09
@venturini09 9 күн бұрын
@@executivecarrot3420 exactly. So that’s why I’m guessing that the prosecutor choose still pics instead of the video so he could make the punks look like the victims to a “crazed madman with a knife and bloodlust”
@UZPvNUCaaQdF
@UZPvNUCaaQdF Ай бұрын
Every detail about this incident is disgusting and anxiety inducing. Nobody is clean here. The drinking, the horrific taunts, calling another group over to join them, the pushing, the stabbing, the lying...its real life horror
@davidhardie5644
@davidhardie5644 Ай бұрын
I've been watching the court documentary and everyone has been caught lying
@t.j.7789
@t.j.7789 Ай бұрын
If they would have left the elder alone, there would have been no problems!!!!
@LouisCasas
@LouisCasas Ай бұрын
​@@t.j.7789 💯 *FACTS*
@dirtluverluveruvdirt7009
@dirtluverluveruvdirt7009 Ай бұрын
Anyone know where the whole video of this is?
@psy-chopps
@psy-chopps Ай бұрын
@@dirtluverluveruvdirt7009 it would be on usacrime somewhere
@raeraebadfingers
@raeraebadfingers Ай бұрын
This is just one of the many reasons I don't associate with drunks. Been dealing with my drunk ass family far too long to know what could go wrong.
@MZ-mu6om
@MZ-mu6om Ай бұрын
You have wisdom. Really good to hear that your past experiences are guiding you in the right direction.
@fuqui035
@fuqui035 Ай бұрын
God said my people are stupid
@blessedblessed5018
@blessedblessed5018 Ай бұрын
I'm trying to stop but it's hard
@jaysonb.6669
@jaysonb.6669 Ай бұрын
@@blessedblessed5018 Keep praying to Jesus & dusting yourself off each time you fall. Find a local Church community or support group to help you make a disciplined strategy. Break out of the "sin-shame-despair-resolution-repeat" cycle. Bring it to Jesus. If you are in Christ and have accepted him as your Lord & Savior through FAITH ALONE, know that all your sins are washed away. Past, present & future. He paid IT ALL for me and you. God's grace is sufficient for EVERYTHING.
@harrisonhanson2998
@harrisonhanson2998 Ай бұрын
You & me both!
@wouldntyouliketoknow1477
@wouldntyouliketoknow1477 25 күн бұрын
This prosecutor has a talent for twisting hard video evidence towards his bias
@jannalam6861
@jannalam6861 29 күн бұрын
Kids are at fault. Im so glad all my friends are sane and calm people, and none of us drink poison.
@Zachhatesyoutube
@Zachhatesyoutube 27 күн бұрын
Whoever supplied the 17 year old with that much poison better have a conscience that is screaming with guilt. That kid could have died three other times that day.
@KaylaMarie_
@KaylaMarie_ 27 күн бұрын
The kids didnt kill anyone
@brettpid6416
@brettpid6416 27 күн бұрын
@@KaylaMarie_ consequences
@jannalam6861
@jannalam6861 27 күн бұрын
@KaylaMarie_ they very well could have. They were just lucky that they didnt. Shoving an old man into water, and also drinking excessively near a big body of water. Many other things could have went wrong that day.
@ucvrzifc8jxl7fdwvezfw2jguc7
@ucvrzifc8jxl7fdwvezfw2jguc7 26 күн бұрын
@@brettpid6416the old guy punched a girl lol
@byronco4917
@byronco4917 Ай бұрын
It's wild when your friends guts are hanging out and your first thought was "wait, I should film myself reacting to this."
@chriscohen9559
@chriscohen9559 Ай бұрын
First time I watched the video I was like Did he really turn the camera to face himself after all that went down?? Yes, yes he did.
@weirdonextdoor164
@weirdonextdoor164 Ай бұрын
@@chriscohen9559 yup one sick generation....
@AreM0000
@AreM0000 Ай бұрын
For real.
@IndigoChick68
@IndigoChick68 Ай бұрын
SOCIOPATH
@RandoManFPV
@RandoManFPV Ай бұрын
​@chriscohen9559 the thought process displayed by the cameramans filming is the sole reason this happened; they are all reatarded, thank the parents
@Sirius39170
@Sirius39170 Ай бұрын
Why aren't these kids charged with drunken assault?
@koolarooo
@koolarooo Ай бұрын
Because he punched first? And then murdered someone?
@marcellcypher
@marcellcypher Ай бұрын
he ran to them
@gregwarren54
@gregwarren54 Ай бұрын
Insults aren't assault
@DanielHuet-Vaughn
@DanielHuet-Vaughn Ай бұрын
@@koolarooo you are allowed to use reasonable force... the womanspitting and screaming in his face is actually initiating the assault, she was dealt a right hand accordingly... when the other people piled on and pushed the old man down into the rocks and water, it was multiple attackers and he unleashed lethal force....
@janetdobie9722
@janetdobie9722 Ай бұрын
They should be facung charges If not for their behaviour Nic would have found his glasses or not and been on his way Their behaviour set all of this in motion He must have been terrified...how could you not be
@Kazooten
@Kazooten 29 күн бұрын
Can't believe this case went forward. DA should be fired
@SavageRaccoon
@SavageRaccoon 26 күн бұрын
Dude murdered somebody, and never reported it hoping he wouldn't get caught. The way he had the knife facing up and the motion he was using he was clearly trying to open people up and kill them. Then when arrested he lied about what happened. If he called the cops after he got to safety, told the actual story and explained why he feared for his life, he may have had a believable self defense case.
@strafer8764
@strafer8764 26 күн бұрын
@@SavageRaccoonkeep lying
@SavageRaccoon
@SavageRaccoon 26 күн бұрын
@@strafer8764 everything I said is accurate, according to videos of different parts of the incident.
@AdoptedPoo
@AdoptedPoo 7 күн бұрын
@@SavageRaccoon self defense isnt murder
@oROBBIEo
@oROBBIEo 5 күн бұрын
@@SavageRaccoon he killed that person but he didn't murder him.
@biggains1
@biggains1 24 күн бұрын
Teens try to mob and drown man. Man proceeds to implement all of his Edge-based weapons skills in self defense. Man is seen by law as the offender somehow.
@CashisKingtrucking
@CashisKingtrucking Ай бұрын
Imagine if he didn't have the knife on him. How far would the kids have escalated the situation?
@Ebolacrash
@Ebolacrash Ай бұрын
exactly
@donprovolone1425
@donprovolone1425 Ай бұрын
They would have killed him and the news would never speak of it lol witch trials are the new "justice" and its on sight. Those kids are evil.
@yolowolf24
@yolowolf24 Ай бұрын
I mean didn't he punch a woman in the face before he was touched by anyone else? Who cares if people are yelling at you, walk away...
@tomatobasil7695
@tomatobasil7695 Ай бұрын
You realize thats when the videos start we don't see anything prior to that. We don't know who did or said what. We don't know why she got hit. We don't know. Everyone on KZfaq has all the facts that they can't possibly have.
@sekokhan5307
@sekokhan5307 Ай бұрын
Not far
@Csper01
@Csper01 Ай бұрын
All involved, from the instigator filming and yelling, to the assault on the man by multiple parties, should be held accountable.
@louisaburns3303
@louisaburns3303 Ай бұрын
TOTALLY AGREE
@chrisseger2346
@chrisseger2346 Ай бұрын
Knife guy went from victim to murderer real quick. He may have gotten away with stabbing the first guy, but then he stabbed a young woman who posed no threat to him and a guy who was trying to break up the encounter. Should the others face criminal charges of some sort? Sure. But let's not pretend they're in the same league as knife guy.
@kyos8462
@kyos8462 Ай бұрын
​@@chrisseger2346had they not attacked him none of it woulda happened period. Drunk immature brats f'd up
@ofthedawn
@ofthedawn Ай бұрын
As he shoukd with a mob attacking him. Ill bet theyll think twice at least the survivors ​@chrisseger2346
@kalanevans4171
@kalanevans4171 Ай бұрын
@@kyos8462 I completely agree the fact he came back armed showed aggression. HE CAME TO THEM.
@peterbaxter573
@peterbaxter573 23 күн бұрын
LMAO dudes over there dying and not a single (friend) is helping. their more worried about getting their bully on with an old man. How disgusting. I fell like everyone of those kids should be charged for the assault and stabbing.
@gophukyurselvs3621
@gophukyurselvs3621 5 күн бұрын
It’s so pathetic to see people say that Nick was bullied to the point where he committed murder. So did Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold at Columbine High School. They were even physically assaulted and had urine thrown on them. Does that give them an excuse to go and commit murder?
@vaati9364
@vaati9364 5 күн бұрын
Can you believe that Jawahn Cockfield still gets to play football at St. John’s University in Collegeville, MN after he got his friend killed?
@rachelsill79
@rachelsill79 5 күн бұрын
And I feel like you got your juris doctorate out of a happy meal
@gophukyurselvs3621
@gophukyurselvs3621 5 күн бұрын
@@vaati9364 yes he’s a real man unlike Nic
@vaati9364
@vaati9364 5 күн бұрын
@@gophukyurselvs3621 They are both scum. what is wrong with you?
@robw2158
@robw2158 27 күн бұрын
This man defended himself against a group of bullies , if they didn't pick a fight nobody would have suffered. Case closed
@miche11evpayne24
@miche11evpayne24 8 күн бұрын
Not true. He wasn’t held there against his will. He was told to leave them alone, no action was made, he left and came back with a knife. Learn the law before you speak on it
@dylanmccallister1888
@dylanmccallister1888 8 күн бұрын
@@miche11evpayne24 leaving and coming back with a knife makes it premeditated and its no longer self defense, yes A lot of states do not have a duty to retreat though. I live in one. Which means if i had a knife on me and this happened to me, i chose to stay instead of retreating and im assaulted immediate self defense case for me. A group of people posing a threat come up to you, you arent required to let them control you. Otherwise, we legalized people bulling eachother and pushing them around by requiring you to retreat whenever confronted
@BirdDogey1
@BirdDogey1 Ай бұрын
Being a bully has consequences.
@Kylorenz710
@Kylorenz710 Ай бұрын
being bullied isnt a hall pass for MURDER either 😂
@CopWifeCopMom
@CopWifeCopMom Ай бұрын
@@Kylorenz710 The pack mentality scared that old man. He felt threatened. at least 10 young men picking on one old fat guy. Yeah I would’ve felt threatened too
@ShellyCline
@ShellyCline Ай бұрын
​@@CopWifeCopMom he wouldn't have had any reason to be scared if he hadn't punched that girl in the face. And I can see stabbing at someone in self-defense but gutting 2 people and attempting to do so to a third person is extremely deviant behavior. There is something very wrong with that guy.
@thecrow4597
@thecrow4597 Ай бұрын
You’re a sick puppy
@carolcolton4901
@carolcolton4901 Ай бұрын
@@CopWifeCopMomBut that is no reason to kill one kid and wound 4 others!
@antonchigurh3794
@antonchigurh3794 Ай бұрын
Moral of the story ? Don’t F with people that you know nothing about whether you’re right or wrong.
@jctyler31
@jctyler31 Ай бұрын
If only people were this smart.
@440-fishermandrock8
@440-fishermandrock8 Ай бұрын
He's gonna get life in jail so you're comment is pretty irrelevant. Derek chauvin supporter? You probably wanted kyle Rittenhouse to be found guilty too 🤡
@joeblowe3180
@joeblowe3180 Ай бұрын
That's the moral you got from this story? Why are you minimizing the actions of that man?
@LorenaMartinez-gs4fe
@LorenaMartinez-gs4fe Ай бұрын
@@joeblowe3180what would you have done?
@georgemonde8237
@georgemonde8237 Ай бұрын
If they ignored him this would have never have happened ​@joeblowe3180
@philwhatever3903
@philwhatever3903 29 күн бұрын
Why does the video say stabbing victims? Rather then stabbed perpetrators?
@ImpulsesOG
@ImpulsesOG 25 күн бұрын
Because they stopped advancing when he pulled out the knife and it became self defense when they reengaged you troglodyte
@GarthWatkins-th3jt
@GarthWatkins-th3jt 24 күн бұрын
Because mainstream media is FULL OF SH¡T, they sp¡n sh¡t to FABRICATE A STORY not report the news in a transparent and unbiased fashion. NEVER trust the media as a reliable source of factual information. They have EDITORS for a reason. They have advertisers that pay a lot of money and therefore have a lot of "pull" in the media. The advertisers are big corporations. They lobby in Congress non stop, the give HUGE campaign donations. "Follow the money" to quote Ross Perot. Follow the money, you'll find who is really in charge, who selects presidents, who causes wars. If you trust almost anything mainstream from the education system to the media to politicians you might as well trust the drug dealer on the corner of 1st and main. We've had a war on drugs, poverty, famine, crime, etc etc when it's been the controllers causing it all to begin with. If people would educate themselves and stop lying to themselves while practicing denial like it's a religion, the picture becomes more and more clear. What does the picture reveal? Almost everything we're taught and told is truth is the opposite- lies lies lies and then more lies and again more lies......yes, it's that bad.
@GeneralSantucci1st
@GeneralSantucci1st 4 күн бұрын
We can’t defend ourselves in this world anymore
@ravendragonsong5842
@ravendragonsong5842 Ай бұрын
And this is why I live in the woods with my dog and cats and avoid humans as much as possible EDIT FOR THE KAREN'S AND KEVIN'S: None of us have claimed to be hermits. Speaking for myself I have HIGH standards for the humans I allow in my life. It's a very small number as society has lost its bloody mind. Unlike you I don't rate my value by the number of followers I have it's the content of character, honorable human moral ethical human. I'm Christian and I prefer to be around those who have the same moral compass. Being alone doesn't mean lonely miserable or depressing. It is about having standards and value for yourself. Go find Jesus and stop being hateful nasty humans
@maxpunkin3128
@maxpunkin3128 Ай бұрын
You're so lucky to have that's seclusion I wish I had it
@HomeDIYSStuff
@HomeDIYSStuff Ай бұрын
here here. My 10 acres isn't far enough away from PEOPLE in general. I'm stacking it up with trees so I don't have to look at them.. lol
@maxpunkin3128
@maxpunkin3128 Ай бұрын
@@HomeDIYSStuff must be a dream,id love it,I only deal with my 2 dogs and 2 cats,I can't wait until the day I can get away from people, I am already in seclusion now but it's not far from people I live on the outskirts of a big city, and I hate it
@LC.1990
@LC.1990 Ай бұрын
We have to make a living in the city. The work in our fields is not there in remote locations.
@kevinbuda7087
@kevinbuda7087 Ай бұрын
you gotta come out some time....and thats when they will get you
@ssiegfreid
@ssiegfreid Ай бұрын
Symptoms of a society that’s lost all decency and respect for each other.
@lordw9609
@lordw9609 Ай бұрын
Facts
@thystaff742
@thystaff742 Ай бұрын
A society that has turned its back to God.
@CelestialBeing-00
@CelestialBeing-00 Ай бұрын
@@thystaff742 God condoned killing.. "Stoning your Children if they don't listen" "Eye for an Eye" "Killing the First Borns" "Justifying tying people up and if animals ate them it was his will" "Genital Mutilation (Isn't killing but bad enough" Bible is Brutal.
@CelestialBeing-00
@CelestialBeing-00 Ай бұрын
Humans are Animals, Some can rise above their baser instincts the majority of the time but some never do and even the ones that can will drop to that level eventually if pushed or shoved. You can't trust Humans..
@scotts5308
@scotts5308 Ай бұрын
Thank the GOP and Trump.
@Dora_D_Destroyer
@Dora_D_Destroyer 22 күн бұрын
Everyone gangster until they got disemboweled 😂
@JJtvee
@JJtvee 16 күн бұрын
How was this not self defense? I dont understand. If its one man against a mob of people?
@xo121w
@xo121w Ай бұрын
Back in the day teens would help him look for the phone. This society is rotten
@MareMarMarie
@MareMarMarie Ай бұрын
100% agree
@xo121w
@xo121w Ай бұрын
@@xavierb9061 what joke? Dumb ass teens stated shouting pedo like a guy after heart surgery is chasing teens ffs
@MareMarMarie
@MareMarMarie Ай бұрын
@@xavierb9061 where did you hear that? Besides from the kids because they have been caught lying and talking to each other to get their stories straight. Their testimonies are falling apart on the stand.
@MareMarMarie
@MareMarMarie Ай бұрын
@@xavierb9061 yeah you said that the first time. I asked where did you hear it or is it just BS
@JK-Handyman
@JK-Handyman Ай бұрын
agreed
@giftoftime9968
@giftoftime9968 Ай бұрын
Why is the Dad who owns a bar letting underage kids get drunk???
@jvanarsdale04
@jvanarsdale04 Ай бұрын
Right
@tinygrim
@tinygrim Ай бұрын
R u serious? Different cultures. Who brings a knife to swim.
@fluffyanne1177
@fluffyanne1177 Ай бұрын
Children raising children
@nopenope9118
@nopenope9118 Ай бұрын
Children are legally allowed to drink with their parents in bars until they turn 18 in Wisconsin.
@tinygrim
@tinygrim Ай бұрын
@@nopenope9118 after 18 , do they quit drinking then?
@noahgonzalez5589
@noahgonzalez5589 25 күн бұрын
This happens so quick, a lot of times- you won't even realize there's a knife out until it's too late.
@scislianlongshadow
@scislianlongshadow 15 күн бұрын
100% self defense. These kids need to LEARN you DON'T mess with people like this.
@Tom-tq9pt
@Tom-tq9pt 15 күн бұрын
Video clearly shows that he approached them and that he was the one to initiate physical contact (striking the girl first).
@JamestheKilljoy
@JamestheKilljoy 3 күн бұрын
​@@Tom-tq9pt there is nothing in the video showing he hit the girl first. Quit making crap up.
@patriciag9063
@patriciag9063 Ай бұрын
Those kids were having a great time taunting that man. They surrounded him, pushed him down, and slapped him. And their laughter got louder and louder and louder until he started defending himself. Shame on them.
@swerve894
@swerve894 Ай бұрын
He was being a drunk weirdo following them around. Yeah the kids were annoying, but you're an adult grown man. Go about your business. What was the game plan? He had the opportunity to walk away like 3 or 4 times but he kept going back. Go figure they looked into his socials and he posts frequently about using self defense. He **wanted** an altercation to happen here because he's a pussy snowflake
@thomashelm7450
@thomashelm7450 Ай бұрын
After he was yelling at them, ran over to them, stopped them, hit a woman for no reason, then they pushed him over and slapped him. He was the instigator and attacked them first, he was the only reason anything happened. His behaviour was just as poor, if not worse.
@bobbyswain7049
@bobbyswain7049 Ай бұрын
you are leaving out the most important parts.....Miu left and then came back.....he approached them 1st...he threw the 1st punch......other than that you are spot on😆
@cynthg9547
@cynthg9547 Ай бұрын
​​@@thomashelm7450Not what I seen in the video
@matamba9689
@matamba9689 Ай бұрын
I hope the man gets off and acquitted of all charges.
@abcdefg1142
@abcdefg1142 Ай бұрын
Disgusting.
@yungjunkie666
@yungjunkie666 Ай бұрын
Alcoholics sure are still somehow managed to push the blame on "drug users"
@jacobmccandles1767
@jacobmccandles1767 Ай бұрын
Disgusting that 13 people can turn violent with 1 man, yet somehow their victim gets charged.
@duzntmatter5926
@duzntmatter5926 Ай бұрын
@@jacobmccandles1767 AMEN they were right out of a bad movie
@duzntmatter5926
@duzntmatter5926 Ай бұрын
@@yungjunkie666 yeah too many young alcoholics bullies
@yungjunkie666
@yungjunkie666 Ай бұрын
@jacobmccandles1767 if you think that's disgusting try a mirror
@leonardborszos4913
@leonardborszos4913 24 күн бұрын
Fuck around and find out. Best example here, always respect older people and people in general.
@MartyMcflyxxx
@MartyMcflyxxx Ай бұрын
My grandpa always said the best way to stay healthy is to mind your own fuking business🤷‍♂️
@debicarter1549
@debicarter1549 Ай бұрын
Gramps sounds like a true LEGGGG. (legend) ❤
@markstallings5768
@markstallings5768 Ай бұрын
@BurnerSckman, okay keyboard warrior tough guy!! Now lets see what you actually do in real life.
@jackburton4892
@jackburton4892 Ай бұрын
​@BurnerAckmanWhy are you attracted to violence?
@CoreyT127
@CoreyT127 Ай бұрын
@BurnerAckmanone look at the crime stats? And i immediately believe you!😂😂😂
@scottschroeder4920
@scottschroeder4920 Ай бұрын
@BurnerAckmanYou shockingly spelled Brunner syndrome wrong…. Hope for you that you’re trolling
@tonytouch145
@tonytouch145 13 күн бұрын
“You’ll see that the push doesn’t really do anything as he gets right up”. Realistically, you could say the same thing about the girl that apparently was punched and never went down.
@thewhoopingcrane
@thewhoopingcrane Ай бұрын
So what you're saying is, if a gang of people assaults me? I'm not allowed to defend myself?
@Mel-wn9gb
@Mel-wn9gb Ай бұрын
That's not self defence. He could've walked away, and why did he have a knife in the first place?
@thewhoopingcrane
@thewhoopingcrane Ай бұрын
@Mel-wn9gb he could of walked away you say. ONE he did walk away, and they followed him. TWO They then pushed him down and kept pushing him from getting up while hitting him in the face. How is he supposed to get away when he is Surrounded by people pushing him and hitting him and keeping him from getting up?
@Mel-wn9gb
@Mel-wn9gb Ай бұрын
@@thewhoopingcrane He walked away, got his knife and then walked back to them.
@Wallcraft_Official
@Wallcraft_Official Ай бұрын
@@Mel-wn9gb That's clearly not what happened. He was assaulted, and then assaulted again, without any chance to retreat before stabbing several people in a state of fight-or-flight.
@Mel-wn9gb
@Mel-wn9gb Ай бұрын
@@Wallcraft_Official Then he should've fought, not disembowelled a 17 year old and stabbed two other people. That's not self defence.
@whaa3222
@whaa3222 Ай бұрын
This is so disturbing and avoidable. Just sad.
@davidelks8972
@davidelks8972 23 күн бұрын
If this same group was attacking a cop, this would have been hands down self defense, and investigated from another perspective.
@Celisar1
@Celisar1 21 күн бұрын
Excellent point and obviously true.
@darksideblues135
@darksideblues135 13 сағат бұрын
Cops use falling acorns as a reason for self defense.
@xxtoxic4lif3r66
@xxtoxic4lif3r66 26 күн бұрын
This whole situation is just super sad
@22I22
@22I22 Ай бұрын
Used still images instead of video so we can't hear the "children" acting worse than animals?
@Vicki1930
@Vicki1930 Ай бұрын
So the killer was not an animal? Goes back to the group after he goes and gets his knife? Why not stay away ? He clearly shows intent.
@junicohen7918
@junicohen7918 Ай бұрын
​@Vicki1930 you must be waiting to learn the same lesson.stay vaccinated.
@RamboBust007
@RamboBust007 Ай бұрын
@@Vicki1930 idk why everyone is sticking up for the murder. Why was he over there regardless with a deadly weapon?
@RamboBust007
@RamboBust007 Ай бұрын
@@junicohen7918 You talk just like the vaxed tho?
@RamboBust007
@RamboBust007 Ай бұрын
@@google_is_a_criminal You really typed this? lol. why was that big child over there with a knife hitting women?
@isaactuuri6488
@isaactuuri6488 Ай бұрын
"you dont see him getting stabbed in the video", because his 'friend' was filming himself for a reaction vid, jesus these kids are lost
@user-ng2lk5wv4p
@user-ng2lk5wv4p Ай бұрын
the video is the reason hes behind bars too so maybe youre wrong
@KevenJobin-cc1gy
@KevenJobin-cc1gy Ай бұрын
Kids those days are addicted to their phone filming videos for TikTok just to get likes and subscribers …
@isaactuuri6488
@isaactuuri6488 Ай бұрын
@@KevenJobin-cc1gy amen, sadly fodder
@Justyburger
@Justyburger Ай бұрын
When you watch the kids testimonies, you can definitely see they are lost. I actually found them to be quite dark and deceptive. No sense of morals inside of them. Just lawless.
@isaactuuri6488
@isaactuuri6488 Ай бұрын
​@@Justyburger 100%,, they are useless folks
@charliecook-pt6gu
@charliecook-pt6gu 29 күн бұрын
why not play the damn video
@faronray5765
@faronray5765 22 күн бұрын
A wolf pack mentality by the teens + alcohol= tragedy. Why not be polite and helpful but kids are not taught these qualities these days.
@cadevaughn7596
@cadevaughn7596 Ай бұрын
This started because Nicolae was about to start searching for a friends phone they had dropped in the water. Then when he neared a group of teens they started yelling at him calling him a child molestor which is what instigated the fight. Now you have the first half of the story.
@craiglockwood981
@craiglockwood981 Ай бұрын
I think your half right. I think the teens didn't understand what he said to them. Probably because he is Russian and the words he used didn't translate correctly. So the teens being drunk and high start to taunt him. This is what teens do now days. What Nicolae should have done is walk away, wait to the teens floated down river and then went back to the area to snorkel for the missing phone. But he didn't do this. According to his wife's testimony. He came back to the group and grabbed the knife. Then returned to the confront the teens. This man isn't a child molester, he is a monster though. He got the knife with the hope one of the teens would assault him and he could teach them a lesson.
@cadevaughn7596
@cadevaughn7596 Ай бұрын
@@craiglockwood981 I can understand the frustration. I'm sure I was a piece of work in the early 2000's. Kids these days BLOW MY MIND. Probably just a generational thing. One thing stands true. F around and find out. Especially in the midwest.
@craiglockwood981
@craiglockwood981 Ай бұрын
@@cadevaughn7596 I think we are basically on the same page. There are consequences for the actions a person takes. I guess when teenagers act stupid for whatever reason they still shouldn't be stabbed. And they shouldn't lose their lives.
@inhumanfilth681
@inhumanfilth681 Ай бұрын
Doesnt matter dont care it brings nothing of merit to the situation
@dqniel1755
@dqniel1755 Ай бұрын
Insults instigating a fight are irrelevant, though. Insulting somebody isn't illegal. Threatening somebody is, though. However, if they were threatening him then why would he run toward them?
@bub7771
@bub7771 Ай бұрын
So let me get the story straight. About a dozen people surround 1 man. Start yelling at him and attack him. They continue attacking while he's down. He then defends himself with a knife. Imagine if he didn't have the knife. He may have been the one who died to the mob mentality. I didn't see the man go after anyone. They went after him. They were recording for content. They got it.
@tristanburgos1
@tristanburgos1 Ай бұрын
When did they attack him? He punched a girl half his age in the face
@nomoreclowns100
@nomoreclowns100 Ай бұрын
🎯🤌
@brianliberante
@brianliberante Ай бұрын
@@tristanburgos1 It's in the full video, love. This is the prosecution's presentation, don't forget, and it's only screenshots. The full video is online.
@tristanburgos1
@tristanburgos1 Ай бұрын
@@brianliberante trying to figure out how any of it justifies stabbing multiple people “love” because it really doesn’t. The guy’s life wasn’t in danger, and after even the first stab he’s more safe than ever from them. They had no weapon to match that, he had all the power in that situation after the first KID was stabbed and could’ve backed away after that, yet he chooses to stab more people like he’s about to be killed. That’s where you lose me “love”
@brianliberante
@brianliberante Ай бұрын
@@tristanburgos1 Luckily that's not for you to figure out so you can relax, sweet prince. Not sure why you're going off on me lmao
@Rectyme
@Rectyme 29 күн бұрын
Guess this is what happens when a group of people attack someone who just so happens to have a knife to defend themselves.
@davidmurray3049
@davidmurray3049 29 күн бұрын
The old fossil could’ve just walked away tbh.
@Rectyme
@Rectyme 28 күн бұрын
​@@davidmurray3049 They could have not surrounded him, threw him down, and punched him in the face. Standing somewhere doesn't justify getting pushed down into the rocky water and punched in the face tbh.
@YaYaPaBla
@YaYaPaBla Ай бұрын
People just can’t act right anymore.🤦🏼‍♀️
@dayahbpetty9062
@dayahbpetty9062 Ай бұрын
Ikr, this white in white crime is getting out of control!
@miarawks
@miarawks Ай бұрын
🫓🫓🫓🫓
@SirDingle
@SirDingle Ай бұрын
Lmao, you think people haven't been acting like this since the dawn of man
@mscnhou1
@mscnhou1 Ай бұрын
​@@SirDingle Exactly, we just have it all on video nowadays
@paulettestegall8530
@paulettestegall8530 Ай бұрын
Exactly. Can't go anywhere without some fools causing some form of trouble.
@WhydoIneedahandleagain
@WhydoIneedahandleagain Ай бұрын
I’m not familiar with this case, but I think I get the gist of it. 8-10 drunk kids thought they’d fuck around with an old man because there’s all of them and just one of him and “what’s he gonna do”… and then they found out. Is that about right?
@Scorpio-mg1fz
@Scorpio-mg1fz Ай бұрын
You could'nt have said it better!! I was thinking the same thing!! What's the saying" fuck around and find out !! This whole situation is just sad!!
@lacustina6560
@lacustina6560 Ай бұрын
​@@offbeatcomposition did you see the video? these kids laughing and making fun of him, pushing him into the water screaming at him. Normal people dont do that
@lycheemyusic
@lycheemyusic Ай бұрын
Fr. That person didnt watch any fuckin video. He didnt pull out the knife til after they gang pushed him into the water.​@@lacustina6560
@SasaRadic-fq5en
@SasaRadic-fq5en Ай бұрын
​​@@offbeatcompositionhave you even watched the video at all? It's not true what you're saying. I have seen video about 2 days ago. He tried to walk away and they followed him continuing their shit. They slapped him after they pushed him into the water. That's where the knife started to work...
@alfredthorneborn6295
@alfredthorneborn6295 Ай бұрын
Ur dumb as a rock, why would he change clothes and hide from police, why whould he run away from police, lie to police and say the kids drew knifes on him. He approched them, never tried to distance himself, he never made any attempts to get away. Never brandished the knife telling them to get away. Stabbing people that never tuched him, saying it was in self defence and that he was afraid for his life when in reality he was just angry. @@SasaRadic-fq5en
@Iburn247
@Iburn247 28 күн бұрын
Clearest self defence case ive ever seen televised
@chrisharrison3245
@chrisharrison3245 20 күн бұрын
just nothing but a typical group of entitled bullies who deserve to be charged
@annnoble7181
@annnoble7181 Ай бұрын
Wasn't the old man being attacked? I would have felt threatened too.
@Celtic-Texan
@Celtic-Texan Ай бұрын
Yes, and the keyboard mafia are trying to claim he started it all, slapped/punched a girl, then they reacted to that. None of that aligns with the multiple actions that were caught on camera against him prior to him defending himself. He was looking for a phone, they decided to be drunken juvenile delinquents and start trouble with the wrong person that day.
@WonkaBiz
@WonkaBiz Ай бұрын
He attacked first, punched a girl in the face…he started it, then stabbed 5 ppl.
@AgentSmith911
@AgentSmith911 Ай бұрын
​@@WonkaBizThey attacked him first. F around and find out. Self defense.
@DavidKyle
@DavidKyle Ай бұрын
@@WonkaBiz no. anybody who watched the video knows that's not what happened. these kids have nobody to blame but themselves.
@Santinogabriel10
@Santinogabriel10 Ай бұрын
They surrounded him and were jumping up and down and screeching like monkeys. In the video the boys start pushing each other over and it’s like a domino effect and the guy eventually goes down and gets punched in the head. It was so chaotic I don’t even think they knew the guy had hit the woman at that point - if he ever even did. The kid that testified to it saw nothing and clearly was a liar.
@Hof79905
@Hof79905 Ай бұрын
Booze and Drugs accomplish nothing but these types of results.
@nessmarroquin5717
@nessmarroquin5717 Ай бұрын
Not every1 who drinks is out doing stuff like this. Some people only have a drink, and play some board games etc. This is way WAAAAY deeper than that... why did this OLD MAN have a knife at this thing, is significantly older than anyone else there, there's soooo many more red flags than substances.. let's not infantilize this man or blame it on inebriance alone.
@yeverett4533
@yeverett4533 Ай бұрын
Booze and drugs is the same thing because alcohol is a drug. Don't believe me, do your own research.
@inthelandofmorethansmall7582
@inthelandofmorethansmall7582 Ай бұрын
WHAT?!? Billions of people spend BILLIONS of hours at the river, the ocean, the club, at parties, etc and they do so for decades and nothing like this ever happens. What in the heck are you talking about? I've been going to the river since I was little - around 2 years old. My parents and their friends drank and did whatever drugs they did back then al9ng with at least 50 other couples who were also always at the river. Now I'm 40 and I have river front property. We get on our boat and zoom straight across the river to the same island my parents enjoyed for decades. And there are now more couples out there drinking and doing God knows what types of drugs.... No one has ever been disemboweled or hurt other than the occasional cut from stepping on broken glass. I've been a medical provider for 23 years in the ER and while I do see the occasional alcohol or drug related incident, I see far more "sober" accidental injuries. Kids on trampolines and traffic are the worst. We do see alot of GSW (shootings) at the club between gangs... But as far as most people who live in small towns and have nothing better to do than to drink and smoke and snort and party at the lake, the river, the barn, or the field, or even on four wheelers and side by sides, it's relatively low. If you don't wanna drink, no one is making you. But some people enjoy it. And what you're saying is absolutely 💯 false. "Accomplish absolutely nothing"... 😂😭🤣🤷🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️🤷🏼‍♀️🙄
@sBaum
@sBaum Ай бұрын
Well said in the land of more than small
@Steve-ev6vx
@Steve-ev6vx Ай бұрын
@@nessmarroquin5717 He wasn't with them. It's a public river! Most real men carry a pocket knife.
@csvagrant
@csvagrant 5 күн бұрын
Wow. Old guy gets shoved into the water and then struck in the face while surrounded by a large group of drunks, fears for his life and gets 1st Degree Homicide? Prosecutors need to go back to law-school.
@richieuhh85
@richieuhh85 29 күн бұрын
While terrible, this is self defense and he should be freed. Teach your kids to respect your elders and not to gang up on a person.
@craigwhitelaw1481
@craigwhitelaw1481 Ай бұрын
I bet the camera man was only expecting to film all his buddies beat up an older man. Instead of capturing the evidence the older man needed to prove self defence. Irony
@katieg4045
@katieg4045 Ай бұрын
MAYBE the inital person who jumped him but wtf did tony do fr?
@reddeadjuju
@reddeadjuju Ай бұрын
Caused the problem he was the loudest mouth there getting in the mans face making false accusations and trying to make that man fear his life and he did. ​@@katieg4045
@gordrilla
@gordrilla Ай бұрын
​@@katieg4045FUCKED AROUND ABD FOUND OUT
@krabsstd4106
@krabsstd4106 Ай бұрын
Karma is a better word lol.
@MrJackson66
@MrJackson66 Ай бұрын
He was found GUILTY 😂, irony...
@smaze1782
@smaze1782 Ай бұрын
These punks taunted, bullied and surrounded this man. This is clear self defense.
@jamesethan3749
@jamesethan3749 Ай бұрын
Not to mention pushing him underwater trying to drown him
@allseeingotto2912
@allseeingotto2912 Ай бұрын
Why did he have a knife on him ?
@analogueoverdigital929
@analogueoverdigital929 Ай бұрын
​@allseeingotto2912 why is the sky blue? Like who tf cares...
@allseeingotto2912
@allseeingotto2912 Ай бұрын
@@analogueoverdigital929 It’s pretty relevant to the case 🙄
@EMJE272
@EMJE272 Ай бұрын
​@@allseeingotto2912Because he can
@prestonhanson501
@prestonhanson501 7 күн бұрын
The man minded his own business. They ganged up on him. Assaulted him. He fought back. Lesson learned here mind your own business keep your hands to yourself
@gussmann6580
@gussmann6580 29 күн бұрын
100% on his side… screw these entitled kids I can’t stand their type
@yeeturmcbeetur8197
@yeeturmcbeetur8197 Ай бұрын
Don’t ever mess with an old man until you know what kind of young man he was.
@AllUserNamesAreUsed
@AllUserNamesAreUsed Ай бұрын
Most of them are unhinged from the years of coddling, people making excuses for them, stroking their frail egos, telling them that they are the men of the house when they display ZERO leadership skills, demand everyone respect them when none of them have earned the respect, gaslight everyone around them, allow them to ruin every event and holiday with their tantrums and still stay with them playing nurse whikenthey terrorize their families until their last breath. Old women still telling these old lumps of lard they are kings while the young ones finally starting to wake up to their inherent violent nature.
@H-Town_83
@H-Town_83 Ай бұрын
Well to be fair it's not as if they were beating the shit out of him. This isn't a proportionate response.
@griffincontracting
@griffincontracting Ай бұрын
​@@H-Town_83
@triciac1019
@triciac1019 Ай бұрын
@H-Town_83 Yeah, actually, they were beating him up. He was only snorkeling, looking for lost jewelry and minding his own business. Then these six drugged and drunk 17 year old started screaming, calling him a perv and that he was looking for little girls. They escalated it from there. Then, four grown men joined in. They kept pushing him down in the water and even pushed his head under the water. So ten against one.
@ericawilson4759
@ericawilson4759 Ай бұрын
Whew! That is some good advice…
@jamielehman4934
@jamielehman4934 Ай бұрын
Did i read this right? This started because Nicolae was about to start searching for a friends phone they had dropped in the water. Then when he neared a group of teens they started yelling at him calling him a child molestor which is what instigated the fight?
@supernatural5354
@supernatural5354 Ай бұрын
You read right
@kiddalingur
@kiddalingur Ай бұрын
They also started to push him around, Seems to me they had this coming,
@wehocommunitywatch
@wehocommunitywatch Ай бұрын
And when he fell, one or more of them slapped and/or punched him in the face several times. All while laughing and taunting him. There is no way this is premeditated
@user-dt4kv2lp6z
@user-dt4kv2lp6z Ай бұрын
Are these kids gang stalkers?
@nemesister5109
@nemesister5109 Ай бұрын
@@kiddalingur death?
@arymonem
@arymonem Ай бұрын
Bro, that was heartbreaking as hell! Why man, why would you do crap like that?
@artalexander4952
@artalexander4952 Ай бұрын
His terminology isn’t correct, they are not victims, they are assailants
@MrFeeny911
@MrFeeny911 25 күн бұрын
Yep
@OpinionParade
@OpinionParade 25 күн бұрын
*Thugs and criminals named:* A.J. Martin, Ryhley Mattison, Tony Carlson, Dante Carlson.
@Helg3721
@Helg3721 24 күн бұрын
tell that to the jurors
@keithsergent2539
@keithsergent2539 Ай бұрын
I hate to say it but once they pushed him to the water and started attacking him, his life was in danger. If i were those kids, i would have helped the man if he was looking for his phone.
@ashleys5676
@ashleys5676 Ай бұрын
After the first stabbing, he had multiple opportunities to leave but kept stabbing people
@keithsergent2539
@keithsergent2539 Ай бұрын
@ashleys5676 I don't know. They kept surrounding him and pushing him.
@SquirtlePower809
@SquirtlePower809 Ай бұрын
​@@keithsergent2539wait wait wait. I think you are missing some of the story here. You need to learn more before making statements like this. The kids didn't just randomly attack him! He was sexually assaulting the two girls!!
@keithsergent2539
@keithsergent2539 Ай бұрын
@@SquirtlePower809 haven't heard this yet. Shoot me the link.
@SquirtlePower809
@SquirtlePower809 Ай бұрын
@keithsergent2539 I'm running errands right now, but just do some searching and reading up on the sequence of events which have been verified by multiple witnesses and such. He had gone over and messed with the first girl while she was on a tube, and even grabbed her leg. Then he left and came back AGAIN and this time the kids were saying stuff like "leave us alone! You're being creepy! You touched us!" And he was arguing back and whatnot, and then he literally Punched the girl in the face when she called him a pedophile or a creeper (something like that). It was only at this point that the boys got involved and you can see/hear it when the video starts. But even if that WEREN'T the situation, right? Let's say these kids/teens were simply being assholes and bullting this man. How can ANYONE reasonably claim that he was "afraid for his life" to the point that he needed to MURDER THEM ALL!!!? He was a BIG grown dude and all of the teens were quite small and scrawny tbh (don't mean to sound insulting). And none of them were armed or using weapons. There is NO WAY he actually thought he was in any real danger. He was drunk, angry, and violent. That's really the end of it. Fights and such breakout every day right? But people don't MURDER others.
@TrTriTrippin
@TrTriTrippin Ай бұрын
Self defence, They assaulted him.
@Spartan-tm5hx
@Spartan-tm5hx 7 күн бұрын
They did it frame by frame with their narrative. Just play the entire, unedited video. Those kids should have left him alone.
@rr2109
@rr2109 Ай бұрын
I love how they can only try to prosecute him using still, silent images because the video speaks for itself.
@dchawk81
@dchawk81 Ай бұрын
Straight outta the Binger playbook. Because life happens one frame at a time.
@RevTox
@RevTox Ай бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. Why not show the actual video and let the jurors see what happened?
@horaceball5418
@horaceball5418 Ай бұрын
@@RevTox Because the Prosecutors wanna win.
@biggreenblob
@biggreenblob Ай бұрын
Yep 100% justified. FAFO
@YourMomSaysHi_Jinx
@YourMomSaysHi_Jinx Ай бұрын
That’s because jurors/people are so stupid
@user-ls1dn5cs5c
@user-ls1dn5cs5c Ай бұрын
The stupidity and delusion of screaming "This isn't real" makes me sick. Yes it is. Life is no Nintendo game...
@dehavillandcanadadhc-6twin20
@dehavillandcanadadhc-6twin20 Ай бұрын
He was obviously in shock...
@DARTHMPK
@DARTHMPK Ай бұрын
@@dehavillandcanadadhc-6twin20 which is wild considering how much he was egging on the aggressive behaviour.
@IhaveaDoghouse
@IhaveaDoghouse Ай бұрын
@@dehavillandcanadadhc-6twin20 still brain dead, hopefully they grew up that day.
@SavingSoulsMinistries
@SavingSoulsMinistries Ай бұрын
and then screeching like a 4 year old haha
@foylebutler8952
@foylebutler8952 Ай бұрын
too much tik tok.
@threeeyedraven9264
@threeeyedraven9264 29 күн бұрын
Dude was looking for his phone, thought the kids might have taken it. They started assaulting him, he defended himself. Moral of the story, don't move to Wisconsin because you can't defend yourself...
@craiglockwood981
@craiglockwood981 28 күн бұрын
That's good advice. Wisconsin doesn't want you here as well. Stay where you are and continue to read your comic books.
@mneofthestate3515
@mneofthestate3515 29 күн бұрын
They talk about the people who were attacking that 1 man as if they are innocent little kids just enjoying a river float. They attacked him and they were full size people, under age for drinking but out there with alcohol. I saw the video from the first moments and they were attacking him, he defended himself.
@arcanusluvalus1388
@arcanusluvalus1388 Ай бұрын
these kids never had a dose of reality until their friend died and i still don’t think they have the capacity to understand the death of their friend was brought on by their indifference to the human condition.
@BennettMats
@BennettMats Ай бұрын
Do you think that maybe during a physical altercation with aggressive males that maybe its not ok to stab women who are just bystanders?
@user-os7ec4dm8x
@user-os7ec4dm8x Ай бұрын
@@BennettMats If you were attacked and harrassed by a mob accusing you of being a pedo you might attack back.
@wellhellothere9157
@wellhellothere9157 Ай бұрын
​@@BennettMatsEveryone surrounded him and was aggressive and pushing him around like it was a gang inniatiation. They're lucky most people don't have guns while in the water.
@BennettMats
@BennettMats Ай бұрын
@@wellhellothere9157 Then why did he stab the woman?
@arcanusluvalus1388
@arcanusluvalus1388 Ай бұрын
@@BennettMats i’m in no way defending the actions of the defendant in any way, take your shit somewhere else man.
@ravishingradiance5343
@ravishingradiance5343 Ай бұрын
this is a prime example of why you just gotta leave people alone. if someone starts some mess, just walk away, if they continue to harass you, call the cops. its better to do this then to have lives taken senselessly
@LC.1990
@LC.1990 Ай бұрын
Common sense isn't a factor if alcohol is involved.
@rainbowskies5796
@rainbowskies5796 Ай бұрын
Amen !
@angeldee7287
@angeldee7287 Ай бұрын
Same people here opted to defund cops, so good luck with any cops showing up.
@bracoop2
@bracoop2 Ай бұрын
This is why the second amendment is so vital
@purplehz97
@purplehz97 Ай бұрын
​​​@@bracoop2Yeah. I always carry when I'm floating on the river🤔
@AlexanderRodriguez-vs3xk
@AlexanderRodriguez-vs3xk 23 сағат бұрын
where are the people blaming the immigrants on this one
@Whiskeychicks12
@Whiskeychicks12 27 күн бұрын
Aj literally looking at his buddy filming him instead of helping had to be a horrific feeling all in itself, the filmer is just as much of a monster. Bruh I got to the end of the video thinking aj surely wouldn’t have survived and the one that likely out of all of them had the best chance of survival was the one who passed just because it hit his heart. Rest in peace isaac🕊️
@FranklinCrew
@FranklinCrew 3 күн бұрын
Wait, so disemboweled AJ bleeding in the water survived and the one who died is someone named Isaac?
@navalukthrasher9269
@navalukthrasher9269 Ай бұрын
This type of intimidation to a singular person is called Swarming. Teens/young adults have become notorious for this behaviour, and is more common than everyone thinks.
@lore6803
@lore6803 Ай бұрын
This is the most boomer shit I've ever heard. lol
@doofwop
@doofwop Ай бұрын
@@lore6803 boomer gonna teach you a lesson just like that someday
@nateclipps
@nateclipps Ай бұрын
@@lore6803 lmao but its low key true, it mainly happens when an old/elderly person confronts a group/an individual young adult while out "partying" for some wildish behavior. Everyone is loose and hype and emotions are at a high, everyone swarm around and tries to antagonize some form of physical altercation. Nothing new.
@UnfilteredAmerica
@UnfilteredAmerica Ай бұрын
@@lore6803not at all. Lol happens ofteb
@cdcdogs4961
@cdcdogs4961 Ай бұрын
Point is, when we make a mistake we need to face up to it! We need to tell the TRUTH, that is integrity, telling the truth, and honoring our word no matter the consequences. Common sense, honor, Integrity, honesty, empathy, etc, sadly, IMO, only Gen X and Boomers understand what I’m talking about. Even though these young ADULTS didn’t stab anyone, they own A lot of responsibility in the outcome of what happened to their friend. 🤦🏻‍♀️
@ChrundleTGreat
@ChrundleTGreat Ай бұрын
There is no requirement for someone that is being attacked to retreat. THAT is Wisconsin law.
@Officialmryuck
@Officialmryuck Ай бұрын
They messed around and found out. Manners are a real thing down south. Everyone has firearms, that's why everyone is humble with each other down here 🤷
@manuelpagan6857
@manuelpagan6857 Ай бұрын
Was it self defense? I think I saw a group of younger people pushing around a older male is that what happened before the knife came out! Anybody die?😕😕😕
@dierdredire
@dierdredire Ай бұрын
Yes there was a most regretable death of young Isaac, 17 years of age. As stated even in the title of the video. The words “fatal stabbing” and even “disembowel” to some extent, are indication enough, for those understandably avoiding to go through the video.
@coolnerdsclothing6377
@coolnerdsclothing6377 Ай бұрын
they were slapping & punching on that man when they knocked him down they set their own demise when they did that!
@Mavrik9000
@Mavrik9000 Ай бұрын
@@manuelpagan6857 If it's too long and confusing watch the summary at 9:05
@N05177V
@N05177V Ай бұрын
Maybe the kids shouldn’t of attacked this man as a mob. He did nothing but defend himself. FAFO
@nadiachet724
@nadiachet724 Ай бұрын
Not all people that drink are violent...these kids are born bullies.. 💢😡
@JB-mo8rs
@JB-mo8rs Ай бұрын
This is 100% self defense. The mob of teens pushed the man in the water, shoved and punched him and he said, “Get back”.
@One-way
@One-way Ай бұрын
The assault on the girl …?
@stoneneils
@stoneneils Ай бұрын
hahhaa omg you'd better never leave your house peanut.
@freshnorthwest6756
@freshnorthwest6756 Ай бұрын
you are clearly clueless about the law
@freshnorthwest6756
@freshnorthwest6756 Ай бұрын
@@One-way you notice he wont respond to your question lol it's because even he knows he has no response that would make him look decent while still trying to defend that old man with the knife.
@craiglockwood981
@craiglockwood981 Ай бұрын
You're a troll
@KEEPINGitREAL213
@KEEPINGitREAL213 Ай бұрын
instead of calling 911.... Let's just record this crazy moment!
@dragonflymagictarot1180
@dragonflymagictarot1180 Ай бұрын
Exactly wtf
@PizzaCologne3
@PizzaCologne3 Ай бұрын
they want tik-tok clout, totally a brain disease cannot be cured.
@videowatcher314
@videowatcher314 Ай бұрын
A cellphone recording is very similar to full body armor in some people's minds.
@mj2690
@mj2690 Ай бұрын
Because instead of eye witness account they have actual visible proof that this loon should be thrown in jail for the rest of his pathetic life.
@coryb8432
@coryb8432 Ай бұрын
I think he was also partly responsible for the way he was hooting and hollering instigating
@TygerByte
@TygerByte Ай бұрын
The prosecutor had to use still frames because the audio of the drunks wouldnt help his case.
@christianrobles2743
@christianrobles2743 29 күн бұрын
Kids now a days think they are untouchable
@craiglockwood981
@craiglockwood981 28 күн бұрын
Well I don't Isaac's parents would agree with you.
@pamelag7553
@pamelag7553 15 күн бұрын
That's what happens with having their heads in their phones 24/7 instead of the real world. The internet has not helped our kids as much as it has disturbed their normal development.
@aaronbuster7201
@aaronbuster7201 Ай бұрын
Kids F'd around and found out. Guess they expected the old man to just take the disrespect and beating.
@jesseperez4185
@jesseperez4185 Ай бұрын
Both sides are guilty of being dumb, kids really F'd around and found out. Shame they had to learn life lessons this hard. But old man didn't have to escalate that hard.
@jamesethan3749
@jamesethan3749 Ай бұрын
@@jesseperez4185Yes he did. He’s pushed into water and they tried to even hold him underwater by pressing on his back. Thats a FIGHT FOR HIS LIFE no other way around it.
@RamboBust007
@RamboBust007 Ай бұрын
@@jamesethan3749 was this after he punched a women?
@bambbambboyguy123
@bambbambboyguy123 Ай бұрын
@@RamboBust007that’s before
@RamboBust007
@RamboBust007 Ай бұрын
@@bambbambboyguy123 hmm idk sounds like he should have just called the cops like the rest of us would've had to do.
@charliehammer8780
@charliehammer8780 Ай бұрын
Those kids found out the hard way that they can't say and do the nasty things they do when they're online without meeting serious repercussions in real life. Like Mike Tyson said... "Social media made y'all way too comfortable with disrespecting people and not getting punched in the face for it."
@themonkster333
@themonkster333 Ай бұрын
EXACTLY !!! F'ed around and found out
@slee2695
@slee2695 Ай бұрын
Ok boomer
@augsdoggs
@augsdoggs Ай бұрын
⁠@@slee2695 People are still saying that? I haven’t heard it in a long time. You’re pretty late to the party with your attempt at disrespect. 😂
@realest_shirts
@realest_shirts Ай бұрын
@@slee2695 see you on the river
@slee2695
@slee2695 Ай бұрын
@@augsdoggs ok boomer
@jakjones8680
@jakjones8680 29 күн бұрын
From the video I seen, he's not guilty! Those kids should have left the man alone and not touched him!
@kaitlynlinde2919
@kaitlynlinde2919 Ай бұрын
The older man (stabber) said he was looking for his friends phone in the water. These kids floated up and started calling him a pedophile because he had his face in the water looking for the phone with goggles. EVERYONE was drunk. I think everyone is guilty here at the end of the day. Kids should have never approached him though, they did start it imo. Clearly mass confusion was a factor here. The knife injuries though here are truly horrifying l!
@lol33380
@lol33380 3 күн бұрын
Holy shit I found the one sane comment in this cesspool
@TheKuroArisu
@TheKuroArisu Ай бұрын
If I'm faced against a drunken teenage mob, heck yeah I'm going to defend myself. Parents should have taught those kids better and to stop lying in court.
@mohmadiabdollah4384
@mohmadiabdollah4384 Ай бұрын
These crazy people you call children... Are you a fool? They are men and women, so I advise you to convert to Islam.
@infiniterer287
@infiniterer287 Ай бұрын
They were completely unarmed, this isn't self-defense.
@donjuan2105
@donjuan2105 Ай бұрын
​@infiniterer287 my God you are ignorant. They didn't need to be armed for this to be considered self-defense. This man was attacked by a group of drunken adults and he feared for his life. I hope you are never un this situation. In most states all you need for self defense is "being in fear of your life".
@ronwolf5332
@ronwolf5332 Ай бұрын
​@donjuan2105 stabbing a girl in the back trying to get away is self defense. Your stupid showing
@NotableSavage2
@NotableSavage2 Ай бұрын
@@infiniterer287 “I’m unarmed!” The man exclaimed after swarming a man with numerous cohorts and trying to harm him. Good luck out there.
@tristanburgos1
@tristanburgos1 Ай бұрын
The fact that there’s so many people there just casually watching or walking around after multiple teenagers have been stabbed is shocking
@mplslawnguy3389
@mplslawnguy3389 Ай бұрын
The psychology of large groups. Nobody wants to get involved and they just assume someone else will deal with it, although I’m not going to be the first in line to confront a guy with a knife if I’m unarmed.
@tristanburgos1
@tristanburgos1 Ай бұрын
@@mplslawnguy3389 understandable, it’s just so surprising. You’d like to think when you see people’s lives in danger you’d have the strength and empathy to help in some way. Like there’s literally people bleeding out and trying to hold in their guts, yet no one has the decency to run over there with some real urgency and deescalate the situation. Just sad honestly
@mplslawnguy3389
@mplslawnguy3389 Ай бұрын
@@tristanburgos1 Someone with medical training could have possibly helped if they had some supplies. Tragic regardless. Two lives were lost, victim and stabber. The stabber doesn’t even have a record from what I’ve read. People need to realize that fights can and do end up like this. Cooler heads need to prevail.
@tiahnarodriguez3809
@tiahnarodriguez3809 Ай бұрын
@@tristanburgos1 It’s just the nature of group psychology. Most people don’t get involved because we are programmed to put our own safety first. That’s just how our brains work, but there are individuals who ignore that programming and jump in. I’m one of those people. I’ve had to jump in several times, and each time I noticed that people didn’t step up because they either were in shock, didn’t care, or didn’t know how to help. I can’t fault people for not getting involved when they are in shock or don’t know what to do, but I do find it especially sick when people don’t help because they don’t care because without fail these types of people expect everyone else to help them when they need it. Luckily, not everyone is like this. I’ve been in more situations where we were all strangers but everyone played a part to call for help and help those who were injured until help arrived. It all really depends on who is present at the emergency.
@kreutzz1937
@kreutzz1937 Ай бұрын
Because the old man was in the right.
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