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PROVING GOD'S EXISTENCE

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The Creative Minority

The Creative Minority

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The existence of God is a contentious topic in today's discourse. Theists propose arguments to prove God's existence whereas atheists counter those arguments with their criticisms and the cycle continues to go back and forth.
In today's podcast, we are joined by Shaykh Hamza Karamali who will prove the existence of God by utilizing a version of the contingency argument. In a simple manner, Shaykh Hamza teaches our audience the fundamentals of the argument and how to counter popular criticisms of this argument.
Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
2:50 Abu Hanifa vs Atheist
8:25 Who Designed the Designer?
28:04 Is the Universe Dependent?
38:21 Why can't a Dependent Thing Rely on a Dependent?
54:01 What does "everything is dependent" entail?
57:58 Is time contingent?
1:03:12 What is a Necessary Being?
1:07:54 From Necessity to Allah
1:17:33 Can Science Prove God's Existence?
1:20:39 Fallacy of Composition
1:30:59 Conclusion

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@TheCreativeMinority
@TheCreativeMinority 2 жыл бұрын
Here is Shaykh Hamza's amazing class "Why Islam is True." It is phenomenal and will provide an in-depth explanation proving the existence of God, the prophecy of the Prophet Muhammad (S), and the relationship between Islam and Science: www.basiraeducation.org/courses/why-islam-is-true
@BloggingTheology
@BloggingTheology 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent podcast!
@zakzak613
@zakzak613 2 жыл бұрын
@Blogging theology, good evening from London sir!
@mrrahadyt
@mrrahadyt 2 жыл бұрын
Alhamdulillah. What an outstanding decussation.May Allah give you more good knowledge brothers.
@rashonmyeed
@rashonmyeed 2 жыл бұрын
Mashallah this was a great podcast. Shaykh Hamza breaks down the arguments very well! I've learned a lot!
@mohammadabdullah5112
@mohammadabdullah5112 2 жыл бұрын
Al hamdulliah. Nice discussion
@zakzak613
@zakzak613 2 жыл бұрын
Great video brother! Zaytuna is an amazing college! Much love from the UK. The Wahabis are unfortunately trying to bring it down in the eyes of many people!
@GharibBFulan
@GharibBFulan 2 жыл бұрын
Allah says in surat al-hujurat, verse 11: ولا تنابزوا بالألقاب and do not use (offensive) nicknames They do not call themselves Wahhabis. That is a name coined in bad faith to discredit the movement. The initial members of that movement called themselves Muwahidun. More recently, some people call themselves Salafi and others choose not to adopt labels. You can critique and engage in dialgue but do so with knowledge and the proper islamic etiquette.
@iswallbanoo9843
@iswallbanoo9843 2 жыл бұрын
Salaam only one God and it's Allah SWT love here from South Africa Johnessburg pray 5 times a day
@theoskeptomai2535
@theoskeptomai2535 2 жыл бұрын
Hello. I am an atheist. I define atheism as suspending any acknowledgement as to the existence of gods until sufficient credible evidence can be presented. My position is that *_I have no good reason to acknowledge the existence of gods._* And here is the evidence I must consider when evaluating the claim by theists and as to why I currently hold to such a position. 1. I personally have never observed a god. 2. I have never encountered a person whom has claimed to have observed a god. 3. I know of no accounts of persons claiming to have observed a god that were willing or able to demonstrate or verify their observation for authenticity, accuracy, or validity. 4. I have never been presented a valid logical argument which also employed sound premises that lead deductively to a conclusion that a god(s) exists. 5. Of the 46 logical syllogisms I have encountered arguing for the existence of a god(s), I have found all to contain multiple fallacious or unsubstantiated premises. 6. I have never observed a phenomenon in which the existence of a god was a necessary antecedent for the known or probable explanation for the causation of that phenomenon. 7. Several proposed (and generally accepted) explanations for observable phenomena that were previously based on the agency of a god(s), have subsequently been replaced with rational, natural explanations, each substantiated with evidence that excluded the agency of a god(s). I have never encountered _vice versa._ 8. I have never experienced the presence of a god through intercession of angels, divine revelation, the miraculous act of divinity, or any occurrence of a supernatural event. 9. Every phenomenon that I have ever observed has *_emerged_* from necessary and sufficient antecedents over time without exception. In other words, I have never observed a phenomenon (entity, process, object, event, process, substance, system, or being) that was created _ex nihilo_ - that is instantaneously came into existence by the solitary volition of a deity. 10. All claims of a supernatural or divine nature that I have encountered have either been refuted to my satisfaction, or do not present as falsifiable. ALL of these facts lead me to the only rational conclusion that concurs with the realities I have been presented - and that is the fact that there is *_no good reason_* for me to acknowledge the existence of a god. I have heard often that atheism is the denial of the Abrahamic god. But denial is the active rejection of a substantiated fact once credible evidence has been presented. Atheism is simply withholding any acknowledgement until sufficient credible evidence is introduced. *_It is natural, rational, and prudent to be skeptical of unsubstatiated claims, especially extraordinary ones._* I welcome any cordial response. Peace.
@rashonmyeed
@rashonmyeed 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like I've seen this copy/pasted comment before.. Well, what are your thoughts on the main argument in the video?
@theoskeptomai2535
@theoskeptomai2535 2 жыл бұрын
@rashonmyeed I think the Argument from Contingency an unsound argument arising from unsound premises. So what do you think of my original comment?
@hammadahmad6312
@hammadahmad6312 2 жыл бұрын
This is literally the definition of agnosticism. You don't even know what atheism means.
@theoskeptomai2535
@theoskeptomai2535 2 жыл бұрын
@@hammadahmad6312 There is _but one_ claim that the position of atheism regards. And that is the 'theistic' claim that "God(s) exists." Like all claims to truth, this claim breaks down on three dichotomous axes: *_truth_* of the claim; *_acknowledgement_* of the claim; and *_sufficiency of knowledge_* as to the claim. The first dichotomous axis addresses the truth _position._ Like any claim to truth, the 'theistic' claim is either true or _not_ true (false). There is no middle ground. And it is our approach to answer _this_ dichotomy that determines our position and the proper definition of any identity associated with such a position. The second dichotomous axis addresses the acknowledgement _position._ The recipient evaluating the claim either acknowledges the claim as true (theism), or does _not_ acknowledge the claim as true (atheism). Again, there is no middle ground. The third dichotomous axis addresses the _sufficiency of knowledge_ as to the claim _position._ Either the recipient evaluating the claim has sufficient knowledge or information as to the truth of the claim (gnostism), or does _not_ have sufficient knowledge or information concerning the claim (agnosticism). The default 'acknowledgement' position on the claim that "god(s) exists" is _atheism_ for this is the position the recipient begins with _prior_ to hearing the claim for the first time. It would be impractical to acknowledge the truth of a claim _before_ hearing it for the first time. The default position addressing 'sufficiency of knowledge or information' is _agnosticism_ for this is the position the recipient begins with _prior_ to hearing the claim. One can not claim to have sufficient knowledge or information concerning a given claim _until_ he or she hears the claim for the first time. This presents four populations of recipients evaluating the claim that "god(s) exists." The 'gnostic theist' claims to have sufficient knowledge or information to justify changing their position from atheism (default) to theism by acknowledging the claim. Often this population claims to acquire "sufficient knowledge" from revelation from or personal relationship with the deity mentioned in the claim. The 'gnostic atheist' claims to have sufficient knowledge or information to justify remaining in the position of atheism (default) by _rejecting to acknowledge_ the claim. This population is sometimes referred to as 'strong atheists'. This population may or may not make the additional claim "god(s) don't exist." If so, like the theists in the original claim, those that make such a claim now encumber a burden of proof to substantiate such claim with evidence. The 'agnostic theist' claims to _not_ have sufficient knowledge or information to justify changing their position from atheism (default) by does so _anyways_ by acknowledging the truth of the claim _through_ 'faith'. And last, the 'agnostic atheist' claims to _not_ have sufficient knowledge or information to justify changing their initial position of atheism so they _continue to suspend acknowleging the truth of the claim until sufficent evidence is presented._ Of the four populations, only the 'gnostic theists' and the 'agnostic atheists' are *_justified_* in their final positions. The gnostic theist is justified by sufficient knowledge and has good reason to change both default positions. Having sufficient knowledge of a god, he or she can now justly acknowledge such existence. The agnostic atheist is justified in suspending any acknowledgement as to the truth of the theistic claim until sufficient credible evidence is introduced, and therefore remain atheist until sufficient credible evidence convinces the individual to acknowledge such existence. This is how I can demonstrate that I am indeed an atheist - an agnostic atheist.
@rashonmyeed
@rashonmyeed 2 жыл бұрын
@@theoskeptomai2535 i think your argument is unsound and arising from unsound premises.
@fareediqbal8770
@fareediqbal8770 2 жыл бұрын
Assertions and special pleadings. Nothing else. Disappointed.
@ericm7977
@ericm7977 2 жыл бұрын
Out of this world! 👽!! You are missing out > Promo>SM!
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