PRUSA MK4 - Is Orange Printer Better?

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Special thanks to PRUSA for providing this review machine free of charge. Creality, Bambu Lab, and many other 3D Printer manufacturers mentioned in this video have sent machines to me for review free of charge and/or sponsored videos on my channel.
0:00 Intro and Unboxing
1:30 Prusament
4:34 Quality Control
5:52 Mini Design Overview
9:49 Power Up and Initial Setup
12:25 First Print (Spatula)
15:33 Noise Level Testing
17:12 PrusaSlicer
19:31 Wi-Fi Setup
23:18 PrusaLink
25:54 Second Print Test (Tray of Parts)
27:00 Print Timelapse
28:05 Third Test Print (Input Shaper OFF)
29:27 Fourth Test Print (Pre-Sliced Llama)
29:37 Print Quality Assessment
34:30 Input Shaper vs No Input Shaper
37:52 Part Cooling/Overhanging Performance
39:17 Build Quality
40:05 Part Flatness
40:46 Printer Overview
41:32 My Experience Running 2 PRUSA I3 MK3S professionally
44:49 PRUSA's Shift to more proprietary components
45:36 Kit vs Pre-Assembled
46:41 Should You Buy PRUSA or Competitor's Printer?
49:27 Prusa Customer Support
50:06 Overall Experience
51:10 Future PRUSA Content

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@shuflie 8 ай бұрын

Been a while since I tried Prusa link/connect as I went back to octopi as my camera wasn't picked up by the prusa software, but to connect Prusa slicer to your printer you need to click on the gear icon in the printer tab and enter your printer's IP address and the type of connection you're trying to make, link or connect.

@NathanBuildsRobots 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for the awesome tip, will have to try that out

@herr_rossi69 8 ай бұрын

You can easily create a camera in Prusa connect with an esp32 and arduino. It's cheap and completely sufficient for monitoring.

@Alex_M_Creations 8 ай бұрын

The biggest thing with Prusa using 3D printed parts is the parts are open source and it allows for custom upgrades, with molded parts it’s much harder to do modifications. I know this from dealing with my K1 and needing to rip apart the glued gantry, an absolute nightmare. I’ve also had a better experience repairing the Prusa printers at my work than other machines I’ve needed to fix. Not to mention Prusa’s customer support is pretty good compared to a company like Creality.

@NathanBuildsRobots 8 ай бұрын

Very true. I want to do a fan mod and it’s not going to be difficult at all to design parts for it since I have the CAD data and it’s already designed to be compatible with 3D printed parts. Also things like the non-planar printers and such are done on PRUSAs because it’s just easier to work with an open source architecture

@xsvforce3335 8 ай бұрын

If Prusa released a corexy that’s competitive in price and performance to K1 or P1S, it would be a no brainer for me. Unfortunately, quality and no data harvesting has its cost.

@andreas.grundler 8 ай бұрын

It seems to me that people think injection molding is superior because they go by looks, not practicality.

@andreas.grundler 8 ай бұрын

@@xsvforce3335 Regarding the pricing of the P1S and the K1, I have the impression that both manufacturers heavily subsidize their products to gain market share. Good quality Voron 2.4 kits often cost more and you have to assemble them yourself. Therefore, it is unlikely that a fully assembled corexy printer is so cheap.

@Liberty4Ever 8 ай бұрын

@@xsvforce3335 - We shouldn't need to pay extra for privacy and security, but we do. Those features should be standard. Check out GrapheneOS as a cell phone operating system if you'd like less tracking and spyware.

@AlaskaTony 8 ай бұрын

great review! I sold my Ender 5 and got the MK4 kit, I couldnt be happier, this is such a great machine now that input shaper is enabled. I look forward to your tear downs of this machine and any improvements you might come up with!

@kevinjoyce5076 8 ай бұрын

A really useful and informative video that has helped enourmously in pushing me towards Prusa. Thank you for taking the time to make this video

@IvanJoel 8 ай бұрын

To send it wirelessly from PrusaSlicer you add a "physical printer" and specify the ip address and API key for prusa link.

@stefanward-bradley7006 8 ай бұрын

Its nice to see that prusa is still delivering at their exact traget audience. They still provide the reliability tgey are known for, but that cost speed quality triangle is definitely letting you know where your money went. I have a mk3 that ive upgraded to mk3s+ over time and i tend to buy my asa a d flexibles from them still due to their filament consistency. If im gonna be using pla or petg i can deal with a more calue option but the more expensive performant filaments i dont wanna deal with the headache of dialling them in

@philxcskier 4 ай бұрын

I have a brand new MK4 kit and I’m pumped to get it working- this will be my first printer so I’m real excited! I’m interested to see any mods you make for the printer (like the cooling fans you mentioned). New subscriber! :)

@coolpiehead1234 4 ай бұрын

Hell yeah dude, got mine set up recently and it's my second printer and it blows everything I've used/seen out of the water, I hope you're having as much fun as I am! Cheers 🍻

@Loot_OW 5 ай бұрын

Love the TV cam sideways in the background. I found myself looking for delay more than the mk4, sick review

@Wuuzzaaful 8 ай бұрын

you are my favorite 3d printing channel. Very smart and also very funny! ❤

@grampafpv8013 8 ай бұрын

Had mine now for two months and it prints fantastic all the time and i think your right a little bit better part cooling would make the prints even better

@tyotee4361 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for the review, gotta give props to Prusa for the professionalism. Love Prusa's printed parts, genuinely the best and (probably) last RepRap machine on the market. Also this is by far the easiest Prusa printer to use from what I'm seeing. Those first layers are perfect, my Bambu isn't giving me first layers like this. Genuinely might make the Mk4 my next printer for my business.

@FilamentFoundry 8 ай бұрын

Your videos are awesome bro keep up the hard work 🙂

@talbech 6 ай бұрын

Just ordered mine today.. Looking forward to add the 3D print features to my workshop.

@grampafpv8013 8 ай бұрын

I also got the enclosure for it and printed ABS, PC And Nylon with no fails and really good prints

@strelkomania 8 ай бұрын

Great video! My Prusa i3Mk3s+ has been my tried and true for years. Not in the place to upgrade to the MK4 just yet but what a lovely machine - I am definitely a sucker for the new screen and the upgraded hotend that would make non-planer printing more do-able than with the MK3 tool head.

@pangienjj 8 ай бұрын

You always answer questions I got. 👍👍👍

@drewlynford256 8 ай бұрын

Cool. Thanks for doing this review. Yes please do a video about modifying the fan to a larger version. I would be interested to learn how to do that. (There is absolutely no way I would try it by myself without seeing it done first.) I have the Prusa I3 mk3s+, and it has been pretty awesome overall. Minor issues, but they are rare and sometimes attributed to cheap brittle filaments breaking. You are right about Prusa's documentation, it is nice to actually be able to read about the printer with good pics when the need arises.

@charlesrestivo870 8 ай бұрын

Very good review enjoyed all the detail .

@duncurtain6187 8 ай бұрын

about the under extrusion issue , you can use the prusament filament profile or generic pla filament profile , they have implemented preset linear advance prameters inside; and also , could you test the print with the same filament used in the cr-10 print ? in my experience , the galaxy black filament is good at hiding defects.

@DrZylvon 7 ай бұрын

very informative and thorough, thank you

@oriyadid 8 ай бұрын

Great review, appreciate the details. Just a small note: to my knowledge the MK4 doesn't come with extra PEI Sheets, the buyer would have to pay extra for that. I believe they only sent you extras because this is a review unit.

@Matrixas 8 ай бұрын

True

@jacobmurray3621 8 ай бұрын

Polymaker is .03mm tolerance BTW. Had to look at their specifications sheet to find that

@eyeliketony 8 ай бұрын

Why is there a sidways tv in the background?

@TuncayAyhan 8 ай бұрын

Yes

@castortoutnu 8 ай бұрын

Why not ?

@SerialChillerBH 8 ай бұрын

i bought my first ever 3d printer less than 2 months ago, it was hard to decide what to get and prusa was right in the middle between the ( ready consumer level ) 3d printers and a fully DIY printer, so i chose the mk4 and was hit by the price and how hard its to get ( very late restocking and actually no delivery to where i live ), so i decided to get a voron instead, i was disappointed with it not having input shaping ready and the beta profile was good news, their prusament filament is amazing, the one you are using, wow.

@rodsnyder6020 6 ай бұрын

Regarding the slight underextrusion: I noticed that Prusas Prusament profile is always a little underextruding since back when it was introduced - not only with Prusament. They never corrected that. This doesn't happen with the "Prusa PLA" profile in Prusa slicer. If you still use the Prusament profle just increase the extrusion multiplier by 1 percent and you are good. This solved most related issues for me

@HunterMayer 8 ай бұрын

I'm looking forward to you turning your mod mind and laser eyes on to the mk4... and thus bending it to your will!!! I am looking forward to your part cooling mod on the mk4 in particular.

@1fareast14 8 ай бұрын

I get needed a quick flow calibration (easy in orcaslicer), but I'd expect the linesr advance to be well matched to prusa's own filament

@Sembazuru 8 ай бұрын

Side note about Prusament here in the States. PrintedSolid carries Prusament in addition to their own in-house Jessie (which is another high-quality filament) and multiple other brands. I haven't price checked in a while, but I think the per spool price of Prusament at PrintedSolid is slightly higher than in the Prusa store, but that is because the shipping cost from the Czech Republic to the US is baked into the cost in the PrintedSolid price. Shipping over the Atlantic on a pallet is probably cheaper than individual spools so the cost+shipping is probably cheaper from PrintedSolid to the US. But I haven't price checked in a while.

@seanwoods647 8 ай бұрын

Man, I love the new time lapse song ;-)

@zadintuvas1 8 ай бұрын

Print comparison between Prusa MK4, Bambu Lab P1 and Creality K1 would be interesting. It seems like my P1 prints better benchies (at least).

@djispro4272 8 ай бұрын

Look at Aurora Tech, they have done multiple comparisons between the K1, P1P, MK4 and most other recent printers

@user-nj3zd9cl4l 8 ай бұрын

theres a channel that does this ans i highly recommend it. its aurora tech channels

@petermarkk1408 8 ай бұрын

K1????? Really……this is bullshit….it is Creality horrible firmware and hardware!

@petermarkk1408 8 ай бұрын

⁠@@djispro4272Aurora Tech???? Do you believe influencer? Making reviews for money….not for you!!!!!!

@Ebonyqwe 8 ай бұрын

Looking sharp Nathan

@Ojref1 7 ай бұрын

I have a small farm of MK3S+ Bears, with some beefed up parts, better part cooling ducts, upgraded Einsy board and Pi housing boxes, etc. I wonder how the upgrade path for the Bear owners is going to shake out, really all we need is the MK4 effector assembly, 32bit MCU board and screen, then the motors. Might be more cost effective to just replace with an entire MK4, who knows. I haven't really dug into the MK4 BOM yet to determine.

@MihaiDesigns 8 ай бұрын

Woohoo Nathan got MK4!

@SPG_ADR13N 8 ай бұрын

Nice video, am planning on getting a MK4. They also released input shaper on their minis, and will on the XL. Will be cool to see that.

@NathanBuildsRobots 8 ай бұрын

I'm confused why they didn't just put an accelerometer on the toolhead and printbed. It would have added some cost, but that is a known good way to do input shaping

@twanheijkoop6753 8 ай бұрын

Or just give people the option to do it manually like klipper does it by measuring a test pattern

@herr_rossi69 8 ай бұрын

@@twanheijkoop6753You can do a test print to determine the frequencies. In the Prusa Input shaper forum you can find a thread with gcode for the klipper test print.

@martin525622 8 ай бұрын

@@NathanBuildsRobotsthey most propably don't have enough free computing resources or free interfaces on the board to process what they are measuring

@Sembazuru 8 ай бұрын

@@martin525622 There is a connector on the MB for an accelerometer. Note, AN accelerometer... They haven't released the schematic and layout files for the MK4's Buddy board yet so I haven't been able to see what sort of interface the accelerometer that they support uses (and they haven't released info on what accelerometer they support)... If it is an analog signal, well only one accelerometer at a time. If it is I2C then there might be support for multiple accelerometers on one connector using different I2C addresses. I'm not worried about the lack of the PCB design files yet, they usually wait to sell a bunch of printers before putting the files that clones can use out on the internet.

@esurfrider7687 7 ай бұрын

Hey Nathan! What’s the best 3D printer for QUALITY prints?

@modmike4406 7 ай бұрын

If all printers had the same in nozzle pressure sensor as the Bambi A1 wouldn’t that eliminate the issue with extrusion width variance?

@marc_frank 8 ай бұрын

hi, i just found a new printer: Peopoly Magneto X hearing your opinion would be quite interesting it has a new motion system stock klipper and connectivity to orca slicer

@LevisLabOfficial 8 ай бұрын

That wifi setup is pretty rough in 2023. Also shocked they don't walk you through connecting it up to Prusa Slicer, especially since they already link you to an online guide. I'm also not a fan that they don't have onboard accelerometers for input shaping, and instead rely on a universal profile, and hope that it's close enough. Especially if the machine isn't on a very stable surface, that could cause major quality variances. Let alone assembly variation. Not a bad machine, and I can appreciate their open-source past, but for what they're charging, and the competition they're facing, they need to deliver more IMO. Their software team seems in especially rough shape. It took this long for input shaping in its current state to release widely, and the touchscreen still isn't functional... It feels like they're operating as two halves, with one not knowing what the other is up to.

@Sembazuru 8 ай бұрын

FWIW, there is a connector on the main board for an accelerometer. So hopefully (and when I was at ERRF I was asking for this functionality) they will create a routine to generate one's own input shaping profile. Especially useful if someone adds significant weight to the hot end (bigger fans, copper heatblock, etc). Time will tell.

@azimuth9819 8 ай бұрын

Hey! Thats Aurora Tech's song 🤺

@stevenmcculloch5727 8 ай бұрын

Outrage!! Engagement boosted. KZfaq algorithm is happy

@JohnDStrand 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for the in-depth review. Hope you enjoy it! And don't throw it off the balcony.

@NathanBuildsRobots 8 ай бұрын

This would be the last printer I throw off a balcony

@alexzandermanning6094 8 ай бұрын

Hey Nathan! Just picked up a P1S from microcenter . Having some minor issues with AMS retraction. Is it worth troubleshooting or just return it for new one ?

@NathanBuildsRobots 8 ай бұрын

Return it, bambu lab printers and customer support can be slow and tedious, and if you’re still in the return window that’s your best option

@FAB1150 8 ай бұрын

You can connect directly to the printer locally! I use exclusively that... I don't like clouds! There's Prusa Link and Connect, one is the cloud one while the other is the local one, I don't remember which is which

@kgoon1951 8 ай бұрын

Would really like to see your mod for increased part cooling!

@oliverfong418 8 ай бұрын

You should make a video in Aurora Tech's style, with that soft plain tone and music, always have a good sleep after watching her video for 5 minutes before bedtime.

@OscarOliu 8 ай бұрын

My man went from TShirt to Turtleneck after just a little bit of owning a Prusa :D, Got all fancy on us! On a side note: Josef definitely seems like a class act. I'm glad he's on the proper side of 3d printing, vs the Bambu trash we are dealing with lately.

@NathanBuildsRobots 8 ай бұрын

European 3D printer = dress like a European. I should get one of those hats PRUSA is always wearing

@Eric_In_SF 8 ай бұрын

You need to do a little tweaking to get your flow rate highly tuned, but once you get everything dialed in you’ll have no more issues. Especially when it comes to overhangs. I know I can trust my printer up to about 70° almost near 80 with no problems whatsoever. In fact, I was a bit shocked to see the front of your benchy bow. When it comes to flow control, prusa had alluded and it’s first podcast after the MK four was released that because of the way they have implemented load cells they would be able to actually feel the pressure and control flow perfectly in future updates

@kaasmeester5903 8 ай бұрын

The tweaking part is true for any printer, I suppose. My MK4 printed great using Prusament (PLA, PETG and PC blend); you’d expect them to get the profiles for their own filament right. Benchies came out super clean. I also printed a bunch of stuff using Real PETG (a brand that’s readily available here) and that took me a good while to get right. Especially as the optimal extruder temp was at the high end of the manufacturers recommendation, and bed temp was well outside it. But once dialled in, the MK4 produces great prints.

@Jarason429 18 күн бұрын

The gummy bears are for the Kit versions of the printer. In the instructions manual you have instructions to take a certain number of gummy bears after certain steps so you don't pull out your hair when you are building your printer :D

@Michadr 5 ай бұрын

Planning on doing a review on the Wuxn WXR?

@charlesballiet7074 2 ай бұрын

i believe the gummie bear is a reference to the first 3d printed bench prusa ever did back in the riprap days before benchie boat was a thing. it represents the 1000's of test prints that got prusa to the refigned design it is today

@vanhelzer22 8 ай бұрын

I can see the quality in the build. However, I’m not even looking at a printer for that price with that kind of build volume.

@knightsljx 8 ай бұрын

what printer to get depends on your priority. if you prioritise long term support and longevity of the printer itself, Prusa. If you want the absolute fastest and cutting edge technology Bambulab X1

@kylegoldston 8 ай бұрын

Prusa having 100+ machines running at 120+% speed 24/7, producing parts is a huge benefit to the consumer.

@logiclandco 8 ай бұрын

You telling or asking?

@kylegoldston 8 ай бұрын

@@logiclandco I guess that depends on who's asking. I reckon most people don't stop to think about the simple fact that many things are now built by people who don't use the products they produce. So a manufacturer of tech products that uses those products as a core element for production of product is a little special. Especially when they could just copy someone else's designs, but when developing innovative products there's no one else to do your testing for you.

@michaelhanzal 8 ай бұрын

Glad to see you got one! I'm a firm believer you get what you pay for, some may think it's overpriced, but I love my MK4. I own Rolex and Seiko watches, same arguments happen with watches and cars for that matter.

@TheOriginalGenghis 8 ай бұрын

Rolex has shittier craftsmanship than grand Seiko or Omega

@mikealnutt360 8 ай бұрын

At their price it should be all metal cnc no plastic

@nightcrayon 8 ай бұрын

Yes the network file copies are slow... Unfortunately slow... Not that it matters much for the time of most prints, but it does matter when you are waiting for that first layer to go down so you can move on to something else. As someone mentioned, you can absolutely 100% print directly from Prusaslicer to the machine.

@mysfiring 8 ай бұрын

1:12 - Aw. I was here for the box review! Nathan Boxes Robots, when?!

@johnniehoeft1207 5 ай бұрын

Have you done any upgrades to this machine?

@Raffix394 8 ай бұрын

I had a X1C after troubles and 2 months of back and fourth with their support I send it back.I have a MK4 now for little over a week now and it just works. I am using it with Prusa Connect and Ethernet. No issues and it just works out of the box with no issues and excelent results.

@wilsistermans1118 6 ай бұрын

The cooling fan is sufficient, but the fan duct is not designed very good. On Printables you can find fanducts which cool from both sides. This mod (the only I have done) gives better overhangs.

@suppermanzzzz291 6 ай бұрын

only front fan from noctua, could be nice to upgrade the other one

@JohnOlson 8 ай бұрын

Nathan must be special. I don't think Prusa sends review units in the past. Nice!

@PTS_Roller_Coaster_Case 8 ай бұрын

Damn it Nathan...I was interested in a box review lol

@TraitorFelon.14.3 7 ай бұрын

The box is really nice.

@Matrixas 8 ай бұрын

Waiting for the cooling fan mod. GG

@CuttinInIdaho 8 ай бұрын

Sovol, the junior engineers of the 3d printing space, are trying... And so am I...I have to keep redesigning their molded parts because they couldn't be cheaper. They market that printer as a beginner printer because if you actually use it often, you will be stuck in an endless loop of broken cheap parts that need redesign because they were made for injection molding, not 3d printing. I have about 12 hours into redesigning their parts...tensioner pulley mount, Y axis rod mount, and a soon to be unveiled extruder mount that won't break when it decides to slam the bed...and also can accept Igus Drylin's. I should have just bought a Pruse cause sovol is manure...pure, steaming manure.

@stuehl 7 ай бұрын

I'm thinking to start into 3D printing (for home use) and all the china options don't really convince me. I really like the Prusa and I'm currently thinking about two options. Buy an used MK3s+ and maybe upgrade upgrade later down the road or directly by an MK4. What would you reccoment?

@NathanBuildsRobots 7 ай бұрын

Personally, I would buy an MK4 if the support was really important to me. Like, being able to talk with support and having a step-by-step guide on how to do anything on the printer- PRUSA is great for that and why it's more suitable for professional use. For home and hobby use, I think something like the Elegoo Neptune 4 or Ender 3 V3 is a much better deal, because the price difference is substantial. There is also the Wuxn WXR if you want to look at an american assembled brand.

@stuehl 7 ай бұрын

@@NathanBuildsRobots Thx for teh fats response. I'm in Germany so no Wuxn. I'm looking for a good out of the box experience amd want just print. Service and repairability is also important for me. I also like the Idea of completely building the printer (rebuilt for upgrade). :-)

@pepsicolaboy7280 8 ай бұрын

with input shaping i find there are good gcodes and bad gcodes ps there is a fan divider for the print head on printables

@NathanBuildsRobots 8 ай бұрын

What’s it called? Would like to check it out

@pepsicolaboy7280 8 ай бұрын

@@NathanBuildsRobots Prusa MK4 Fan Shroud for better TPU Cooling on printables

@oriyadid 8 ай бұрын

@@pepsicolaboy7280 thank you so much!

@DifferentAverage 8 ай бұрын

Died laughing @ 27:25 lol. Greatly appreciate your satirical nature bro

@andreas.grundler 8 ай бұрын

On the question of whether it would be better to replace the printed parts with injection molded parts to make it cheaper. For injection molding, the parts would have to be redesigned. Injection molded parts typically have thin walls to handle shrinkage as the plastic cools. In addition, the parts must be easy to release from the mold, which affects the shape of the part. And the more complex the mold, the more expensive it is. What makes injection molding cheap is high volume. If you're making millions of parts, there's no question what's cheaper, but if you're only making a few thousand or maybe a hundred thousand, 3D printing can be cheaper.

@stal1963 8 ай бұрын

I don’t agree to the security argument in LAN mode wrt. Bambu Lab. You can easily prevent any device to send data to the vendor by disabling this possibility in a gateway or router. And you can monitor the connections made using a network sniffer. If I don’t trust a vendor, I’d definitely use one of these methods. Did anyone ever detect that issue in LAN mode when using a Bambu Lab or other type of machine? What I agree to is that Prusa machines are secure and trustworthy.

@MayaPosch 8 ай бұрын

Clearly the Mk4 needs a cooling solution like the Neptune 4 with its complete overkill quad-fan setup :) (Love the cooling on the Neptune 4, but it's high flow and high volume)

@NathanBuildsRobots 8 ай бұрын

Good idea. Changing the mass of the toolhead might be a bad idea since the input shaper assumes a certain toolhead mass. It might be better to just add a big fan to the back

@MayaPosch 8 ай бұрын

@@NathanBuildsRobots Could strap a row of 80 mm fans angled somewhat towards the build plate onto the Mk4, or go all fancy with a ducted setup like the N4. Not sure what would work best there, but at least fun will be had :)

@G3BEWD 8 ай бұрын

a printer that prints good out of the box is a great idea, how ever my slightly modified ender 3 pro running clipper gives me much better results, community mods and tinkering is the best in my opinion, but this still a very good printer for non-tech savvy people.

@NathanBuildsRobots 8 ай бұрын

True, my modded Ender 3 S1 kicks ass, but it wasn't great out of the box so some mods are necessary.

@mikedixonphoto 8 ай бұрын

Prusa now operates in the building where the Haribo gummy bears used to be made in the Czech Republic.

@NathanBuildsRobots 8 ай бұрын

Interesting!

@baderalafghani4564 8 ай бұрын

Actually you shouldn’t remove the filament when it purge because the last purge will stick the 1st purge and be away from the nozzle

@Eric_In_SF 8 ай бұрын

I enjoyed watching your version of the review because it shows me why I sent back my Bambu P1P after months of fighting with them to fix it. And of course you pointed out almost every reason why I love prusa, even though they’re kind of a weird company Filament changes are quick, the print quality is astounding , you don’t really need an enclosure to print with advanced filaments, the support, if you ever need it It’s got a town size as well, but dollar for dollar I’d rather have better print quality than hyper fast prints from a company that just steals from open source

@NathanBuildsRobots 8 ай бұрын

Best way to get your design stolen: Open source it PRUSA printers have a track record for loooong service lives. Lots of other printers are just thrown out after a while, and have unserviceable parts. Seems like this MK4 would run for 10 years with the right care.

@ulaB 8 ай бұрын

May I suggest testing the ethernet upload speed too?

@NathanBuildsRobots 8 ай бұрын

Good idea, that might be a good way to increase upload speeds

@fellwind 8 ай бұрын

I think the key is professional printer vs consumer or "prosumer".

@petermarkk1408 8 ай бұрын

I have buyed so many printers…Creality, Sovol, Artillery, Flsun, Kingroon, Bambulab, Anycubic, Flashforge 🤮, Tronxy 🤮🤮 and Prusa. Wich printers are still here without any modifications? Prusa and Bambulab! (Flsun SR with a lot of mods) I love my 2 Mk3S+ my Mini and the Bambulab P1P is a great printer with AMS!

@MrBaskins2010 8 ай бұрын

cant lie prusa quality is incredible. their printers are totally worth the price but my wallet is on sabbatical. you should get atom or sublime text for gcode editing. a generic USB C hub with SD/USB 3 A/etc is like 15 bucks and will make having a mac less of a pain

@NathanBuildsRobots 8 ай бұрын

I've bought many USB-C hubs. They all get lost. My best approach so far has been to buy a dozen usb-c to usb-a adapters and lose them in different places so when I look for one it doesn't take too long to find one

@Sembazuru 8 ай бұрын

@@NathanBuildsRobots Sounds like my approach to pens and scissors. 🤣

@logicalfundy 8 ай бұрын

I see printed parts as a bit of a positive, because they're essentially "eating their own dogfood" - using their own printers to make stuff for their own business, which means if their printers have quality problems, it will affect them directly so there's a big incentive to make sure they get it right. I've also noticed the Mk4 I have is really good at PETG - I imagine this is because PETG is the primary material for their printed parts.

@Alex_M_Creations 8 ай бұрын

Yep, even their mk3s printers were really good with PETG. We print parts at my work with their PETG and it has no issues at all because of how the printer was designed/tuned.

@GabrielAlejandroZorrilla 8 ай бұрын

Hey Nathan. Had to stop the video to write this as this is not the first time that happens, but please either get rid of the mirror on the back or put the monitor somewhere else not pointing to it, it's very distracting! Now back to the video!

@KiCkiN828 8 ай бұрын

May be wrong but isn't it a TV on its side? I don't think it's a mirror.

@TuncayAyhan 7 ай бұрын

It’s for engagement, and I think it worked 🤣

@smugpikachu7222 7 ай бұрын

I am so confused of how the image in it is sideways when mirrors don’t do that

@KiCkiN828 7 ай бұрын

@@smugpikachu7222 it's a tv

@geoffhowells4165 8 ай бұрын

As a total noob to 3d printing, ended up going with an 'out-of-the-box' model from the competition. But knowing what I know now, it does not seem as intimidating. With pressure put on by Bambu Lab, I am hoping to see Prusa reply with greater innovation. I would like to own one of these machines, but they have to step up their game. Thanks for the unbiased preview. -another great video on your part.

@mikealnutt360 8 ай бұрын

At their price i wouldnt think about one of their machines without all metal cnc parts instead of 3d printed plastic on a printer esp one you see so many people jam in an enclosure

@FunctionalPrintFriday 8 ай бұрын

PRUSA SHILL! j/k thx for the review. I shook Josef's hand at ERRF yesterday, but I didn't get promised a printer. The 5 toolhead XL is legit mesmerizing to watch in person.

@NathanBuildsRobots 8 ай бұрын

I think he was glad to see 3D Printer people at Open Sauce. It was about 5% of us there. At ERRF everyone is a printer person, it can be overwhelming

@thejollyfrog640 6 ай бұрын

Why does it have 2 filament spool holders? Can only use one at a time.

@NathanBuildsRobots 6 ай бұрын

Symmetry and easy change-overs

@wilsistermans1118 8 ай бұрын

Looks like a honest review. Only injection moulded plastic parts are not better than printed parts. 3D printing has advantages of more freedom in the form. Not all the printed parts are suitable for injection moulding. Injection moulding gives stronger parts, but that's not needed here. Prusa has a printfarm with their own printers. That makes it necessary to produce very reliable printers.

@NathanBuildsRobots 8 ай бұрын

In the world of mass manufacturing, cheaper is always better. If you can make a set of MK4 parts for $0.40 per printer or $2.80 per printer, which manufacturing method would you choose?

@wilsistermans1118 8 ай бұрын

@@NathanBuildsRobots For injection moulding you must make a mould first. Having a mould made can be very costly. Depending on de complexity it will cost you € 15.000 to € 50.000 per mould. Prusa sells a lot of printers, but not that much that the cost of a set of moulds would pay it selves back. So it is 40 cents per printer, plus a share in the cost of the moulds. They produce 3D printers and filament them selves so that is much cheaper as having to buy printers and filament. With injection moulding making a new iteration of a part is nearly impossible, with 3d printing you just put a new file in the list.

@DrAlanQuan 8 ай бұрын

I'm watching this entire video with my head sideways and watching the TV in the background

@F_K3NT_D 8 ай бұрын

Nice play on the long running orange rockets are better argument.

@NathanBuildsRobots 8 ай бұрын

Orange man bad! Orange rocket good!

@Liberty4Ever 8 ай бұрын

Josef should have sent you an unassembled MK4 so you could expend all of your nerdy build inclinations on assembling the printer and you might be less inclined to mod a new printer right out of the box in a "review" video, as per your usual style. Then again, maybe he figured the more time you spent working on it, the MORE you'd want to mod it. 😛

@kailin1496 8 ай бұрын

The blower fan is a 5010 blower fan which is still more powerful than the stock 5015 blowers used on the Mk3 lineup in my experience, and definitely more powerful than the 4010 used on stock creality machines, but a LDO 5015 blower is still much more powerful than the MK4's 5010, maybe I will replace it.

@Sembazuru 8 ай бұрын

You have it wrong with the gummy bears. You buy the gummy bears and you get a free 3D printer. Prusa is the only candy vendor that I know of that does that.

@colinfielder6695 8 ай бұрын

You need to use the same filament when comparing 3d printers

@NathanBuildsRobots 8 ай бұрын

Prusa Printer -> PRUSAMENT Creality Printer -> CREALITYMENT

@RaizemHerocu 8 ай бұрын

I am excited to a fysetc kit 😄

@NathanBuildsRobots 8 ай бұрын

I doubt they'd copy this design, its pretty expensive. Closest we might get is a copy with different mainboard, display and extruder. Also I doubt they are going to invest in tooling to die cast the frame, so that will probably be different too.

@camilo3626 5 ай бұрын

20:15 sure thing champ, enjoy your cpu at 99C constantly beacuse of incompetent cooling design, and performance beaten by cheaper machines

@joehimes9898 8 ай бұрын

Shouldn't the two printers be compared with the same filament?

@NathanBuildsRobots 8 ай бұрын

Prusa with PRUSAMENT and Creality with Crealityment

@joehimes9898 8 ай бұрын

@@NathanBuildsRobots you are silly. You spent time going on and on about how the permit was better, and would have better extrusion with the pros versus the other.

@kaasmeester5903 8 ай бұрын

Better to compare the printers with their own manufacturer’s filament, assuming the filament is of equal quality. The software will have the settings for their own filament dialled in correctly, so such a comparison will be closest to the experience for a new user.

@funwithrpis3281 4 ай бұрын

I love my MK3 that I preordered before it released (before that I was using a Wanhao Prusa knockoff).. When the mk4 came out I waited.. and waited.. Then on Black friday I was at a Microcenter who had a Bambu Labs x1c and AMS combo for the same Price as an assembled Prusa I bought it.. I don't regret buying the Prusa and so far I don't regret buying the X1c.