This is one reason I picked Prusa over everyone else, especially Bambu. Bambu's TOS actually allows them to terminate your account for any reason, given your printer serial number is tied to your account and offline firmware updates are not possible, if they terminate your account, you'll never be able to update the firmware again.

I wish the Prusa XL had this feature but the Wi-FI module is soldered on the board there.

I hope you can use Ethernet instead. Wifi is a lot of trouble for something that doesn't have to move around.

Name a 3d printer that cannot work offline? This "feature" isn't special.

​@@Kastman82 You can disable Wi-Fi in the menu, and without the antenna, it won't be able to connect to anything anyway. Having the ESP soldered on the board is perfect for 95% of people, while having to manufacture a separate board without it would just be an unnecessary extra cost. The MK4 has its separate ESP module on the outside, but it's not exactly an elegant solution and potentially brings other issues with it. Lastly, all their printers come with Ethernet ports.

its still far from being worth 12k€ what the fuck... its like 5k€ MAX, and that is already super high for what you get... you could get like 3 V-Core 4.0 500 IDEX and make them high temp compatible and till have money left to get them built and configured...

you can buy like 10 Flsun S1 printers that will be better and faster lol

Guys, don't forget: we can all build capable machines for less. But for that we have to spend time and then we still don't have warranty and customer support. All industry cares about is reliability, speed and ease of use.

@@TJ13062010 yes industry care about reliability but I see non of it from it unfortunately. Prusa are good but they don’t offer enough features for industry to use other than basic prototypes but then again if that all they look for this is pretty good. If you want to use it for small batch production then not so much

@@nebuchadnezzar47 That’s just not true. I saw the printer live in Prague last week (and mine is arriving soon) and for the quality you get (designed and built in EU), the kind of support and considering what the printer is capable of, it is definitely worth the money. Shure, it is not comparable with the other Prusa printers made for hobbyists and enthusiasts, but it is simply not made to be compared with them. Judging about a printer you have never seen live before and reducing the value by more than 50% is just not fair for everyone who worked hard to design and built this machine. As far as I know it is open source and entirely made in EU, built-quality is awesome, and it’s reliable and it works, that’s what counts these days.

What price

His look caught me off guard some reason, didn't know it was him at first. But yea, this is a shift in the standard for sure.

😂😂😂😂😂

Im german, and im very happy to hear it. Look how happy I am: ._.

$10K it better give me dinner and a happy ending every night for a month at least. WTF are they smoking over there $10K in 2024 for a tiny printer like that? LMAO!!! ridiculous!

@@leinadreign3510 That's about the happiest I've ever seen a German look

@@richfromtang It ain't for PLA bud.

man’s gonna go on a rampage once he gets his hands on one

True but can print direct from a dry box like most engineers will already be doing?

@@Baldavier In production environments, the Drywise dryers with the Pre-Heater are normally used. So I would say yes, to use a Drywise dryer should be no problem with this printer.

It would be nicer to have the dry box either integrated, or able to be electrically connected. That way the printer can control and monitor the filament box’s temperature, and maybe also monitor the amount of filament left.

Nice to hear your experiencr, but how many peoples do you know who spend 2000 euros on a phone

That makes no sense. The high temp parts they have shown are not even semi-cristalline so they suffer from isotropic properties

Does it have 2 nozzles? Lets wait for 2 nozzles and incorporated filament dryer. THis is what your boss is going to say, if he is not stupid.

Some other company is Kickstarting that right now, but with a CEO barely out of college. I would pay $1K over their asking price to get the same thing from Prusa and know the company that made it has been around continuously since the early days.

@@__S__435 micronics is two college graduates and their professor, I would not trust them especially on safety. They show off that they started out in a college apartment, running a milling machine less that a metre from a bed with nowhere near enough adequate space around it, they even joke about how they got woken up by metal shavings in the bed. They basically used a college apartment as a workshop with machines that should only be used in workshops. Considering their lack of care with their own safety and the safety of others in the building, I would not trust them.

Since it's prusa it would probably cost over 50k.

​@conorstewart2214 it's college. Such behaviour is expected from passionate engineers.

Give the people what we want!

Marketing videos usually are!

you buying one then

what for tho, it's not like you're gonna print ultem anytime soon

Unless you're a multi millionaire, but you said you need to save? That's stupid. a

Looks at the flsun s1 for 1/7th of the cost

Are they at the forefront though? Bambulabs completely blindsided them.

@@Festivejelly they did, yes, but I like to see they are still fight to bring new stuff out

@@robertauerbach2571 500 on the hotend and 155 on the bed should be more than enough for pretty much any PEEK filament, not sure which one you were looking at?

@@robertauerbach2571 500c is plenty for PEEK AND PEKK

They bought Trilab that made industrial delta printers almost four years ago. Not sure how this release can be a surprise to anyone..

@@Akegata42 ah I didn't know they did that

Just means you’re new to this space, took them long enough

Probably the electronics are rated for it

To no compete against this model

99% of the people in these threads wont be buying one so does it matter how good or not it is they wont benefit from it

@@thediscman123 well, yes, so what's your point?

Cheap? Only 11k

@@MisterMakerNL if you're surprised by the price, then it's not for you. It's not a consumer product. Companies buy this. Not an average Joe that lives in a basement.

Zack Freedman got you covered

@@SanderMakes His PEEK Benchy you mean? That bunch of unprinted filament strands, because he couldn't print it? But apart from that, that tier list he made is very nice to have.

am I the only one that has seen prusa sell these more business orientated delta printers already for many years now? Everyone here seems to be surprised by them for some reason ...

Delta are like the new-old flying gantry.

MK series are probably going to remain Cartesian. Prusa isn't Creality where everything consumer-facing is an Ender.

Personally, it's not bad at all. Integrated HEPA filter muffles turbine sound to quite tolerable hum. I would compare it with average AC unit.

Je. :) Tady je k vydani cely clanek v cestine - blog.prusa3d.com/cs/prusa-pro-ht90-je-tady-spickova-3d-tiskarna-pro-vsechna-prumyslova-odvetvi_98411/

The cooling system on this machine is literally one-of-a-kind, never seen on another 3D printer. -Mikolas

he can not compete in core xy so he is off after a new customer base he will not move from his bed slingers he can not claim his glory and name on his shirt with a core xy lol

@@thediscman123 The MK series is also based on other opensource. The XL is a nice Core XY, on the expensive side but fills a niche as multi toolhead printer.

not for most people and very expensive. if he sourced more parts from china he could bring his prices much lower and be more competitive

@@thediscman123 I have been eyeing those Voron clones, they are getting very cheap and appear to be good enough. But since I got my XL, I haven't had use for a second printer.

in the yt channel strange parts they show a core xy prusa for 3d printing farms in development, the prints are not that tall but the automation part of the printer look very cool

Yes, because it can't do PEEK at all. PEEK needs 133 degree chamber temperatures.

I don't see what makes this printer more capable of doing these high-performance filaments than a lot of the other printers claiming so and doing it very half-assed like the Funmat HT that has the same 90C chamber temp and a slightly hotter bed. It will come nowhere close to a proper high-temp printer (though it is ofc significantly cheaper)

i mean, it still probably is 'technically it can do PEEK' 90C is high but not that high for PEEK. Good video btw

​@@aronseptianto8142 I would actually say it is worse for PEI / Ultem. PEEK doesn't benefit as much being printed super hot as the main issue is crystallization, while an amorphous thermoplastic like Ultem really wants to be printed relatively close to tg. I have printed more than a few kilos of PEI on a proper high-temp printer (Minifactory Ultra) and we ran Ultem 1010 at around 215-220C bed & chamber temp to get the best performance. Ultem 9085 which is a PEI alloyed with PC and Siloxane polymers (IIRC) prints at a bit lower temperature, and we printed that at 170-175C bed & chamber temp.

@@HackCausality If it can't do peek then why did they show it at 0:25?

Provide livelihood for some EU citizens.

print high-end materials like PEEK or PEI? this machine isn't meant for hobbyists. it's an industrial printer for engineering use.

If you ask that, you definitely don't need such a printer.

They owned trilab, it's just their first one that's under the PRUSA brand

Deltas have a lot of benefits but they're also much more difficult and expesnive to get right than cartesian printers.

@@oliverer3 exactly, but that kinda makes them interesting tho (not the wallet ouch but the difficulty xD)

@@Parodidical yeah, it aint 100% prusa but i believe trilab aint bad either just havent heard about them that much

X1C doesn't have heated chamber, only X1E. This printer also costs $10,000. That being said, it is the first pro 3d printer at a reasonable price point, allowing exotic materials at a high speed. Amazing if you have the proper use case.

@@TrueRewire I know, but it should print nylon parts nevertheless and I have everything to control the chamber temperature with an external controller if I really need it.

So a 1000 cartesian machine is not as fast as a 10000 delta machine! You tell em buddy!

@@fofopads4450Do you measure performance only based on speed ? I use this for engineering. I usually need a good tuned temperature (PID) and a solid structure. Speed is not a huge consideration as long as I can print Abs to 150-200 mm/s. I rarely need a something faster. In the case of the Mk4, it just doesn't give me value that justifies its price point in my opinion. No nozzle brush but it probes with the nozzle load (unreliable first layer), no PID routine, the enclosure comes with no abs or heat resistant parts replacement for the printer, it comes with no camera, no led light, the wifi printing interface is not polished or was closed to finish when I bought my machines. The thermistor had faulty reading on 4 units (it was solved thanks to their amazing customer service). The hotend has a very limited heating capacity, so for material that requires a good amount of heat (280C). I have to slowdown quite significantly because of that. The idler gets sloppy rapidly. I had to reprint it already for all 4 units. Don't get me wrong, they work. It's just that I have to do engineering, not tinkering... If I had to repurchase units for prototyping like I am doing, I would buy something else.

Looks like the dry box they mentioned in the blog post from earlier today

They mention having the ability to direct cooling air to certain areas for bridging and overhangs so that support is, uh, less necessary.

Wow I guess testimonials with all those companies in the video were fake and generated by AI.

They are different printers for different uses, they just both happen to be delta printers. The V400 can only manage 300 C on the nozzle and 110 C on the bed with no chamber heater. This Prusa HT90 can manage 500 C on the nozzle, 155 C on the bed and 90 C actively heated chamber. The V400 is meant for the consumer market with relatively low end materials, like PLA and PETG. The HT90 is meant for engineering materials, nylon, PC, PEI, PEEK, etc. materials that you couldn’t print on a V400. The HT90 is also meant for companies or professional engineers, the V400 is meant for hobbyists, you can’t really compare them. If you are comparing them on how well they can print PLA or PETG you are missing the whole point of the HT90.

First thank to have took the time to respond secondly I get that the Prusa Pro HT90 and the V400 are different beasts, especially in terms of price ^^ and certainly in term of features and capabilities like the interchangeable heads and this 500°C nozzle temperature and the wider range of printable materials . However, as an happy owner of the V400, I’m still interested in a comparison because Despite their differences, there are notable similarities. The V400 can print at speeds up to 600 mm/s and has a build volume of 300 x 300 x 410 mm, which is quite comparable to the HT90. Also, the HT90’s max acceleration of 20,000 mm/s² is impressive , V400’s performance is still quite similar to it ( in the speed and quality regard) for its price . What interest me is to explore what Prusa has done with their slicer approach i'm sure their innovations could provide valuable insights on how to optimize the use of my V400.( with i hope better slicing approach to delta fdm printer ) There’s always something to learn from Prusa’s high-quality approach to 3D printing, and i hope their new printer could inspired the others fdm delta ecosystem.

That's like comparing a Bigrep machine to an Ender 6-7 The only thing they have in common is the kinematics

Why compare it to the old Flsun and not the Flsun S1 ?

Hi. We are also offering a Drybox for this. www.prusa3d.com/es/producto/prusa-pro-filament-drybox/

sub £10,000 plus tax and shipping in the game again not likely. they have fleeced the the ordinary punter and been well overtaken in that market now they are off for businesses all you prusa fan boys won't be getting this one.

@@thediscman123 Definitely in ONE of the games, this time affordable industrial 3D printing, which is usually much more expensive than that. Let's wait for their next "mainstream" printer, I feel like some Panda might get a bit of a kick in the butt when that happens 😏

@@finlay9260 it was that panda that finally moved 3d printing forward instead of stagnant and slow race to the bottom. They gave the whole 3d printing companies a huge kick up the rear end and made the lazy repetitive companies think for a change

@@thediscman123 ​And it was Prusa who did the exact same many years ago with the MK2 and MK3? I don't see the difference tbh, and I'm convinced Prusa isn't planning to step away from this mentality. Let's just wait and see what comes next, from both sides.

​@@finlay9260 What hobby printer of reasonable price and innovation have prusa brought out lately

3DXTech recommends a 70 - 140 C chamber for their PEEK and filamentive recommends > 80 C, so whilst on the low end it should be enough, especially for small and medium sized parts. Higher temperatures are better though.

@@conorstewart2214 Indeed, for small parts it will most likely be fine, but medium to large (I am thinking parts with much longer print times and weirder geometries) will become an issue (but that's just how 3dprinting is in general, eh?). Also you won't get optimal layer adhesion, which is a bigger problem because if you're using PEEK in the first place it's for its outstanding properties as a superpolymer. Just to be clear, I haven't personally printed PEEK (yet), I don't have a machine capable of that. Fartest I've gone is Carbon-nylon (which is still very fun). However, I do know people who print PEEK on a regular basis, so what I say mostly comes from what they said + my own research on the topic. And I still think this printer is a pretty impressive machine that has a big potential.

Prusament PEI 1010. ;) Not available quite yet www.prusa3d.com/product/prusament-pei-1010-natural-500-g/

​@@Prusa3DI will never believe that people are printing with the material my build plate is made from

I will if i could

It allows for faster speeds because of the lower weight being moved, the downside is that it takes up more space for the same print area but in industrial applications it's not a deal breaker.

It's for professionals, not for hobbyist

@Romancelanguagespassion and that's why i was saying i would like a smaller and cheaper version that lacks the higher temps. I know its for professionals, but would be nice to see a prosumer version of it.

@@dacryon3755 maybe in the next year for small one. Let's see 😜

@@dacryon3755 yeah then people will bitch and moan about how the other Chinese company can do it for much less and faster. There's no end to the negativity.

@brisance true, have a friend who says prusa should be ashamed of their prices and their printed parts. Meanwhile he is excited for voron printers with their prices/printed parts. Also loves creality due to their prices

Exactly, this is where Creatbot shines, which is made in China, so we are waiting for a second extruder in Prusa Pro HT90.

how hot can the chamber get at max.?

@@wildniscamper7276 90 degrees inside the chamber and surely the motors of that industrial prusa can withstand more than 200 degrees, perhaps they are water cooled. What a normal domestic printer motor can withstand up to 100 degrees in operation in some cases of printers with good quality motors

In a delta the motors for movement do not have to be in the chamber, and the extruded motor has its own cooling system (see the air hose) Very nice engineering

@@sasukedh i know, is was working for eos and voxeljet.. i don't know what to think of that printer. to me, fdm is not good for endproducts or usable parts at all.. sls or slm with pa2200 is the best process to me.. yeah could be watercooled but i guess they moved the motors out of the chamber.. not easy to handle 90°C in that chamber

@@wildniscamper7276 Yes, it is very possible that they have removed the motors from the camera and used gimbals, for example, to move them. It also depends on the material that can be handled, although it is true that SLS laser casting is more optimal since the laser melts much better. The problem with SLS is that the pollution residue must be more difficult to handle and probably more toxic. The material they need is not as extreme as it should be and that's why taking an FDM route is quite plausible from the way I see it, I also have a small laboratory and I make printers and we test materials by the way.

No not really, the FLsun S1's temp rating are too low for printing with extra high temp materials like PEI and PEEK, which is basically what categorizes this printer as a true industrial printer.

@@thespartan3479 AH okay cool

Hi. The HT90 is very silent thanks to the isolated printing chamber. Try to find some videos of it working during the last TCT+Rapid to check it yourself.

@@Prusa3D the printing chamber isn't usually the issue though, it's usually the cooling, which is kind of hard to isolate..

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You really want to complain about something, don't you?

@@fofopads4450 not really, I’m actually more a fan of Prusa then not, but this just seems very strange for a 10k€ machine