I still use my original ender 3 too from 2019. Parts are cheap and it's easy to fix. I will keep it forever.

​@jaya6291 no point. You can get cheap, but big upgrades with the ender 3 v3 se or ke, and several others. Bought an ender 3 ke for $80 on ebay that needed a minor fix.

Dude... stop!! 😂 I'm an old grognard engineer with 30+ yrs experience and you young dudes with your "mods" make me feel like a hillbilly.. which I am too. 😂😂

I JUST DROPPED A GRAND this week on a Qidi X Max 3 to keep up my production needs. It arrived June 28th & I still haven't had time to get it even turned on! 😂 Being "old" I experience "kid-like excitement" & anxiety, hoping this machine won't disappoint me. 😂

@@BuzzingGoober The se and ke are made to be less moddable and maintainable. An original e3 with $50-100 of upgrades is a better machine than them. Certainly don't throw out a well tuned original e3 for one of those clunky things.

I’ve though about doing it but they’ve gone and done it, and in a tiny lightweight package. Actually the method I’ve though about involves a passive flap, with airflow selected based on fan speed

Hi there and thank you sir. There is one more cool detail which isn’t in the video. There is a second flap for the intake. For materials like PLA the intake is switched to the outside - you can print fast without opening the doors of the machine or similar shenanigans ❄️

@@thejosefprusa awesome advantage.

They have never really have made a low margin, mass market printer. Their factory isn’t geared towards producing 100k printers a month so they can’t price a product to sell in those numbers. I think they’ve always focused on selling a higher profit margin product with better QC and support. The market for that has always been more niche and geared toward corporate users than your Crealitys, and Bambus of the world

Don't kid yourself. Companies buy cheap printers too.

BambuLab arguably can't be profitable without chinese government subsidies, china is cheaper, but not by much.

@@bernardtarver depends on the company

@@bernardtarver yes they do and some of the smart ones don't like to throw away money just cause they're successful

Absolutely incredible machine btw😂

It’s pretty

its probably the least costly machina with these features. By like 3 to 4 times.

Yeah but when you’re printing filament that costs $1000 per kg, for parts that get installed in machines that costs $1,000,000+, and the alternative printer that your company has access to is $200,000 and the size of a car, and located in a separate building… suddenly the cost of the printer becomes less of a concern. It’s definitely not aimed at the hobby market

@@NathanBuildsRobots Sounds like a good strategy, these printers can have high margins. Is is also open source? Could people copy it?

Creatbot PEEK printer is only about 4 to 5k more expensive and can get the chamber to 120 IIRC and you can heat the filament container to 100C to keep your PEEK dry.​@@giovannifontanetto9604

@@NathanBuildsRobots indeed, indeed! That’s the Pro-ness

I love this comment

Yeah, and no 3rd party closed source wireless plugin like with Bambu Lab slicer. That just feel shady to me.

The one next to it was using a dry box. Having that as an external feature makes a lot of sense to me, changing filament is one of the most common tasks, so making it as accessible and easy to operate is a good thing.

​@@NathanBuildsRobotsI hoped for an optional stackable dryer on top of the printer. Ideally, it would have been optional and allowed to use up to 5 kg spools. Anyway, it's not a problem. Maybe it's a stupid idea, and the current solution is better. Also, it would have been interesting to understand the longevity of this printer. How many KM of the filament to start experiencing issues? My Prusa MK4 Kit is in good shape after 4.7 km, but 4.7 km is nothing. I am considering buying this printer after resolving other priorities.

Most likely. If the cups that sit between the arm magnets and the chromed steel balls are made from delrin, they will last for an extremely long time and never require any lubricant. I have also seen U-joints (like the original Kossel) and Traxxas arms (like on the original SeeMeCNC Rostock MAX), but nothing beats mag arms.

That would be interesting, though it probably wouldn't be high temp Magnets that can survive the high temps are a little weaker and more expensive than standard magnets

Dump trucks are too expensive, I can get an F150 for 1/10th the price.

@@NathanBuildsRobots lol

I have seen similar comments under a video regarding the new Vision Miner printer. They complain that the printer doesn't have lidar or an accelerometer or a camera.

No, it is not

@@riba2233 So kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nMCYrdR7mNKYpXU.htmlsi=OGbBfA-d_CWolF0A&t=556 is not meaning there is a real view into the chamber?

It’s a little window, it’s not open air

Meaning, it’s a bit of clear plastic there. They just moved the handle up a little so you can peek into that critical area if needed

I think a lot more people have had experience with PRUSA printers in the MK3S and the MK4, so it's an easier sell to management to say "buy one of these because we've bought a printer from them before and know how to use the ecosystem"

I think this printer is like the middle ground between say a Bambu X1C and the latest VisionMiner. VM is well setup for selling to big companies, government and have a whole plug and play type system for engineers and specialty manufacturing. Not to mention, more experience in that target market in general. This Prusa is probably more like a good value for small businesses who don’t necessarily need or want the overhead of needing a whole big support system that has a lot of profit margin built in, and can build a small fleet if needed at lower cost per printer.

VM had some serious issues :|

Well, I'm looking at the 22 IDEX v3, and it has a "higher ceiling" than the HT90, but it also has a considerably higher "floor" as well given that it starts at basically $15,000 The HT90 isn't cheap by any description of the word, it starts at basically $10,000 as well, so it has to punch a little above its weight class to show them up and nip at the heels of the 22 IDEX v3 so to speak. As such, it's got a few less bells and whistles, but offers more than hobbyist-consumer-level products... In any event, short of robbing some banks... repeatedly... I'm not in the market for either, just comparing specs and advertising fluff

Why they have a poor track record

That is a good question, that is the only feature that is missing that a lot of engineering applications might miss. It shouldn't be too difficult to fit one on there as a future upgrade.

Supposedly the active part cooling addresses that, though I suspect it's not feasible to rely on that alone in every case. Some customers will inevitably print using the main filament as support, and then someone will have to go through, cut it off, and sand the interface sprues down. That will be a "good enough" solution for many.

@@__S__435 you mean to extra cool the support for it to not stick?

It is. But it's enterprise class machine

Would be a shame if one of the display models disappeared overnight 🫥

It comes with a $9 discount!

It's not aimed at the home, it's aimed at an industrial application, which almost certainly means it comes with a ton of support in that purchase.

@@matthewwain9958 do you see any of them react here ? No its hobbyist, companies dont look at something like this. That pilot in Germany that they spun like its part of assembly was just a sale agreement

@@TheOneAndOnlySatan as far as I have seen when I looked last week at the HT90, it was being used by quite a few automotive companies. No hobbyist is going to be buying a 10k Delta when they can buy wayyy better value machines. These are intended for industrial applications.

😂😂😂😂​@@NathanBuildsRobots

I wouldn’t be surprised if many of those comments are fake, just like amazon reviews.

@Vallecaucanisimo yeah possibly, but damn do they get around lol.

I have a Prusa Mk3.5 and a Bambu X1 and the Bambu wins hands down for my purposes. Doesn't mean the Prusa is bad, Bambu just pushed everything forward at their pricepoint.

@@OuijaSTi that's a lame comparison lol

@@krollmond7544 how so?

If you look at the printer on the left it is using a dry box. Don’t worry they’ve thought about this 🤣

Get him outta here!

prusa get the cost down. XD I'm dead.

This dude just tried to compare a creality K1 to a prusa MK4 lmao They're worlds apart in build quality and reliability.

@@LilApe You're right! The K1 doesn't melt when put into an enclosure and printing high temp materials. XD

Cartesian is strictly better than delta or corexy when it comes to print quality, period. And I own a corexy printer with 35k acceleration, just in case you doubt me.

@@youtubehandlesux XD sure..

And 1000 times the price of my 3D printing pen!

Because of course an X1C can print Ultem at 400 celsius, with an actively heated chamber, right?

​@@carlosjosejimenezbermudez9255 That is what the naysayers keep missing. "For that price, you can buy X number of Y!" But the Y printer can never hope to approach several of the capabilities of this printer. So you bought ten of them for the same price as one of these, congratulations, now you can have ten printers failing to perform the needed work in parallel.

Forgot to add: $900.00 to ship, $213 for the prusa pro filament dry box, $2,100 for the UF30 filament dryer.

@@Denniss7420 not 100% sure but I believe PRUSA RESEARCH is a private company that is self-funded. The worst thing you can do is underprice your product and lose money on it, because there are no investors, loans, or subsidies to fall back on.

1) Prusa buys a delta company rather than developing it themselves. 2) Prusa improves it?

Sure but it's probably not as quiet or as nice to look at and pretty sure it's slower.

Bambus similar offering is the X1E It’s nice but it only goes up to 60C chamber temperature. Getting all the way to 90C is a pretty big deal, as it requires you to replace grease, belts, and electronics with high temp variants. Also it requires additional sealing, insulation, and higher power draw.

It'll probably come with a recall too.

​@@NathanBuildsRobots I think the only particularly hard part of all high chamber temperatures is magnets and electronics. Gotta keep them away and insulated from the chamber (which makes for a bunch of added design restrictions, and why I am assuming that they went for a Delta) or you have to use relatively exotic materials in complex fabrications. Weirdly though, something like this is really a problem of scale. We can print most things short of to PEEK, PEKK, and large parts of pure Nylon in a Sub 1k printer. Those materials in filament form are pricey because nobody buys them. Nobody buys them because they are a pain to print (even on the machines that are pretty good at them). So for this to really work outside of ultra niche applications, someone needs to make a reasonably priced printer that will print these materials reliably (probably both a hardware and software solution given the material shrinkage rates). That way the filaments themselves can commodify and become reasonably priced. Then we may see this more in engineering applications. But for now, 90C buys you pure nylon, not the ultra-high-end stuff, and now you are competing with a bunch of SLS printers in the 10k price range, but you are accepting worse quality for a larger build volume but slower production rate and anisotropic part strength. Not sure if FDM will be the ultimate solution for high end thermoplastics, but I don't think that a 90C delta for 10K is a meaningful step to the goal. It certainly doesn't get us any closer to production at any meaningful scale, and what is the point of prototyping with the correct material (say unreinforced nylon) if my prototype will have necessarily different properties when compared to a part made in whatever my ultimate production method turns out to be. 90 C is in no specs I have seen recommended chamber temp for PEEK PEKK. Seems like it may work for smaller parts, but I would wonder about layer adhesion. Also, I definitely don't need a 90C chamber for ASA and ABS.

And mediocre with questionable design choices, just like the rest of the bambu printers.

​@@JOEDHIGGINSAfter testing out how strong ASA parts printed in 65C chambers are, yes you need high temperatures to bring out its full potential.

They have a dry box for the higher temp materials. If you look at the printer on the left it is using one. But at the same time, if you want to use materials that don’t need a dry box, an open spool in an easy to reach location is the best solution

😂 lol, what?

It's almost twice that

Holy hell I was way off by almost half they are truly out of their mind

@@Mintor94 yeah I see that I guess I was just giving them the benefit of the doubt

@@NoMercyFtw this is not supposed to be a printer for an avarage joe, enterprise class printers can be a lot more costly

Before you jerk yourself off too hard, maybe consider Prusa targeting a different audience rather than the Apple of 3D printers AKA all the idiot proof printers Bambu released that probably can't print engineering grade material like this printer can.

More chamber temp equals better bonding even for PLA. Stfu if you don't understand the basics of fdm printing.

Indeed this person has no idea what he's talking about. Even PLA doesn't "cook" until at least 250+, and only if it sits at that temp a long time. Good bonding comes at 240+, especially important if you have adequate cooling for sharp overhangs and short layer times.

The guy I was interviewing knows more about 3D printing than me, so pretty sure if he said something he was right

What a weird comment :o Have you ever tried 3D printing in real life?

@@youtubehandlesux he was saying this when mentioning the nozzle. go back and see?

I doubt the FLSun can print PEEK

@krollmond7544 sure but a heat block upgrade is not the same thing as it being a unique or improved printer design

@VoluntaristSociety I haven't seen anything other than corexy, delta, bedslinger and belt printers.

​It is not just the heat block lol

@@riba2233 holy shit this man is in love with me lmao