Glad you like it. I hope to go and shoot some of this ammo soon.

Yeah it's nice to see some proper type brass.

Outdated? Nope. All my reloading manuals are in Avoirdupois/Imperial units, even the newest ones. These systems are still quite a popular measurement system in the remaining free(ish) parts of the world. Conversion to the International System of Units is easily accomplished by computer for those who have troubles understanding old, traditional measures.

Do you suppose anyone will make a comment on his video to tell people about my video?

314299 Shooting Channel I suppose its already done.

314299 Shooting Channel Lol

I did! Screw that guy, though; I can't get over him blowing up a perfectly serviceable Ross Rifle. Wanton and destructive vandalism. They aren't making those anymore! >:-|

SamEEE12 the guy as saved more than enough old forgotten firearm to have the right to do a destructive demonstration. And it was at the beginning of is channel.

They list the 8mm Mauser FMJBT load as a 198 grain, not 200, so most likely slightly different.

Of course the PPU load is not identical to the Ball D loading as it has a "cup & core" bullet instead of a solid brass bullet. Cup and core bullets generate less chamber pressure than a solid brass bullet as they are more easily engraved by the rifling. The issue, as I understand it, is that the Ball N load required a different throat in the barrel due to the heaver bullet which had a different shape. The PPU load should be fine in any 8mm Lebel rifle/carbine that is in good condition. If I had a Lebel I would not hesitate to use the PPU ammo in it. Remember that PPU makes this stuff for the civilian market and wants it to be usable in as many guns as possible.

Actually, I have been to a couple of reloading forums since I made the comment above. The guys there confirm that the PPU is a load that will not stress out the Remington Lebels. It is, as you say, not strictly speaking Balle D; but, it is compatible. So thanks for your video and information. :) @@314299

It's been a cold winter so far.

That BC is pretty impressive.

It should fit the unmodified original chamber.

You can do either. Full length dies have the double taper in them to restore the round to original profile.

Actually no I have not as I need a clip for my Berthier rifle.

If everything looks good and the bolt number matches the receiver you are probably good to go. Ideally you would have the headspace checked out by a gunsmith, but finding one with 8mm Lebel headspace gauges is going to be difficult.

@@314299 ok thanks... I'm thinking of securing the rifle on a rifle sled and using a string pulling the trigger from safe distance.

Yes, the Lebel round is weird looking, which is not surprising since it is basically a necked down 11mm Gras black powder case. PPU gives this 200 grain load a velocity rating of 2297. Original 198 gr "Balle D" is rated at 2400 fps, so the PPU load is a bit milder than the original load. 8mm Mauser loads with the similar 198 grain bullet are a bit faster at 2600 fps. At some point I hope to cronograph some of this ammo to see how it performs compared to the published specifications.

@@314299Interesting. According to Ian from Forgotten Weapons, he says that the Balle D had a muzzle velocity of 700 mts/sec or 2297 ft/s. I wonder if it's shot from a Lebel or a Berthier. See "French Ammo Forgotten Weapons" for more. Most 8mm mauser ammo is anemic, but the S&B matches the specs you mentioned.

$49 a box.

314299 Shooting Channel $49 CAD or USD?

Does not matter much to those of us who have no Lebel rifles.

yeah who wants that outdated crap :D

I was surprised that they did not go with a "standard" 8mm bullet of .323", after all PPU loads a .264" bullet in their 6.5 Carcano when it actually needs a .266" bullet.

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