Accelerates from traffic lights "And theres another 100 dollars"

Even though diesels are WAAY better for the environment

@@Cowboy66SEVEN Only in terms of Co2 output. Everything else is worse.

The EPA put emissions controls that are the same for everyone. Gasoline is coming back because it is expensive and fiddly to make diesels comply.

@@Cowboy66SEVENThey are not. They are comparable to gasoline engines in most respects, except that the equipment needed to make them as such is much more expensive to buy and maintain than with gasoline engines… Edit: wrote diesel instead of gasoline…

The system check you were hearing was the ABS and on most modern air brake vehicles you can hear it (note if you step on the brake pedal during the system check it sounds like the system spits at you)

I love the sound of the gasoline engine!

@@jeromedavis8575 Thats not related to the conversation those 2 had

@@a-dog8075 OK.

@@a-dog8075 Still, it sounds cool along with the system checks.

Jonathan Bradle that’s very true I ride in a ic ce propane 2021 794 special ed spring ISD 👍🏻😍

Nothing compared to the Loadstar and S series gas engines from the late 70s - early 80s

My school district has recently started buying Thomas C2s again, there's one that goes to one of the schools in the area.

Some of their stuff is known for DPF faults. I would stay away.

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what the hell happened in the replies

@@alexandergrube6437 some idiots just being toxic for no reason

4:00 Great catch of Amtrak P42DC 145-the Phase III heritage unit on Lake Shore Limited 48!

@@zacharymakutu2360 now was that really necessary my guy?

CSXRailfan2 Yep, that’s train 48 with 145 trailing third. Best part of the video IMO

I heard and saw it too!

Was That a Nathan K5la Train Horn?

@@thomasday2351 yes

For some reason I love how loud the diesels r

@BUGATTI SS Me too and louder is better IMO

And, why aren’t they on Type Ds?

@@superbrownsheep3777 type D’s are too heavy for gas engines to be viable.

@@charlesrodriguez7984 Why not just use a larger Gas engine, the PSI 10 or 11.1L

gasoline not a diesel silly c;

@@raychoncla1175 Ik it's gas.

Damion 2-16 They do not use the 200-300 designations anymore.

@@KodieS Wow really?

Damion 2-16 correct. That stopped in 2012/2013, somewhere around there.

Hopeful for an opportunity in the next few months - RE's are extremely rare in New York these days.

I agree. I'd also like to see the gas engine up close.

@@KodieS I love the sound of the gasoline v8! I'd love to see it idle up close and hear it too!

@@KodieS what's the clicking noises when you turnt the key on before you started the bus?

@@dustinlanphear422 That's the ABS system run its self check. Any bus with air brakes will do this.

It certainly would be faster with a hellcat engine. Probably would get the bus to 60 in less than 25 seconds but I’m not sure if It’ll have enough torque to pull the load of kids.

David Devine Lots of people will use the audio in Rigs of Rods. Just so ya know

CentralJerseyRailfan Not necessarily a bad thing

@@5.43v it's fine, not sure if Kodie wants the RoR players to give credit though

@@5.43v Kodie does not record that stuff for that exact reason

Rudy Briseno 133

8.8x61=534ci....Chevy has a 540 rat motor so close enough.

There are a ton of them out there.

Sadly the EPA requirements now have killed the diesel engine. The school bus duty cycle just isn't a good match with a diesel anymore.

@@KodieS Diesel dt 360 or 466 back in 1989 was good not now days better off gas engine when only racking up 9000 miles year on school bus. we ran DT 466 5 speed manuals with 2 speed axle and air operated radiator shutters, with low air pressure wig wags in windshield with stop sign if you remember, 10 fronts 21000 rears on cast spoke wheels

This one had fairly low mileage. There's an area where the doghouse cover mounts to the front of the cab that squeaks pretty badly when its cold because of the plastic and rubber gasket. I kept the heat off for most of the video because of the noise. Once they warm up, the squeaking in that area stops fortunately. The other problem is the driver seat, though this one had not been greased most likely.

Many, yes.

@@KodieS Awesome

5 Plus overdrive

GM fan our 12 year old Escalade sounds like this bus

@@markmccormick4461 ok? Its still based off a gm 8.1l block and heads

The fuel type doesn't really dictate what braking system the bus is equipped with. They're two entirely different, independent systems. Air brakes are designed for heavy vehicles and are basically fail safe. Worst case scenario, the air system loses pressure and the brakes lock up. With a hydraulic braking system, if hydraulic pressure is lost you've got no brakes at all unless you manually activate the emergency brake.

@Dustin Lanphear North Tonawanda New York

I like trains kid Channel There is no longer a 200 or 300 designation. That’s been gone for years.

@@KodieS since 2015

@Dustin LanphearIt's the law. Because a few accidents already happened where a school bus was hit by a train

@Dustin Lanphear all bus drivers do that

That's not correct. It's an 8.8L engine built by Power Solutions International in Chicago. Originally the 8.1L GM engine, redesigned into an 8.8.

Horsepower is not a standard rating across the industry. It comes down to the engine displacement (size of the cylinder bore and piston travel). The Cummins diesel starts at 200HP and goes up to 260HP in school bus.

High torque. 660 lb ft if I’m right?

It’s a school bus, the amount of power the engine makes is enough

Definitely not. Diesels climb way better.

@@KodieS My district in upstate New York considering if it's a good idea to buy gas bus's but there is a lot of hills in my area so I was just trying to look into it, and from your answer it seems to be a bad decision to do that correct

@@Epsteinc not necessarily. Diesels will climb better by design but there are plenty of districts in hilly terrain with gas and propane buses.

@@KodieS Will you consider to make a video of the downsides in the upsides from a gas bus vs diesel? I can't find such a video on KZfaq yet I think it's going to be very helpful for a lot of people to understand the difference

No, Western New York.

New York

15mpg to be exact

@@aleax5670 Actually not that bad!

@@EdPMur most likely they get around almost 20mpg if you drive economy instead of going above 65mph

@@aleax5670 Don't know where you're getting those nonsense numbers from. It varies by route and area, but if you exceed 8 or 9mpg with a gasoline school bus, you're out of the ordinary.

@@KodieS sorry ☹️ I guess I didn't research fast enough on school buses

You will not hear the speakers if he gets a copyright strike

05-56 of T-N Okaloosa (FL) does... but it overheated yesterday and is now very likely sitting in the shop while it gets a swap off the DT466E that Escambia County put in it. Dammit Trans-North!

And with the PSI 8.8L V8 Gasoline engine there is no need for: Heavy diesel engine in front. Heavy SCR system infrastructure. DEF tank. DPF. DPF cleaning ($$$$). DEF or UREA. Parked Regen (A waste of fuel and time). EGR cooler issues. EGR valve issues. Oil-cooler issues. Hot operational temperatures. Engine oil degradation. Expensive parts. Expensive repairs. Expensive fuel (depending on location) Downtime (common issue with today's diesel engines) Yes, diesels might get "better MPG" but all that is washed-away by its higher operational costs.

I don't think things have improved much at all. DPF and urea systems are still as bad as ever. My contention is that the unreasonably low emissions standards for diesels are unnecessary in 90% of the places they operate. If the super clean stuff could stay in the big cities only we would have less of a hobble on our economy.

It's meant to move a heavy bus around 5 days a week, for over a decade straight. It's all low speed, reliable torque.

designed for reliability, not power

@@TristanSpeno I did think that. However some research into why the vast majority of 70s, 80s and 90's large capacity V8s (cars mostly) were so underpowered is due to emissions regulations. The car from National Lampoon's Vacation "family truckster " had a 5.0 V8 with "only" 120bhp. The 3 speed Auto gearbox used a decent chunk of that 120bhp. Meaning you had a large, underpowered car . Heavy and with poor aerodynamics it was incredibly thirsty. The lack of power meant the engine had to work hard to build up speed with a gearbox not good at reducing stress and workload. So surely the reliability would suffer. On another comment section I said I believed the dodge viper would be very reliable. Low tech engine, low revs etc. I was shot down in flames.