PSVR2 on PC is NOT what I expected...

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29 күн бұрын

Sony recently announced the adapter that allows your PSVR2 to connect to PC so you can play Steam VR games with your PlayStation VR2, but it's not quite what I expected it to be...

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@Marcyo137 27 күн бұрын

I can pretty much guarantee the XR community will have all this stuff figured out in no time. They have eye tracking from the Pimax headsets working in OpenXR on SteamVR and all the features of the PS5 controller works while it's been used on steam. I for one am excited for all the additional PCVR games I get to try like Asseto Corsa, Microsoft flight sim, Half-life Alyx and all the mods and the ENTIRE UEVR catalog. Having already owned the ps5/psvr2 combo, the adapter is a no-brainer for me.

@AbrahamZX1 27 күн бұрын

I don't think that these features missing is a big deal, there is probably no steam API to support them currently. As far as we know, these are not being blocked and can be supported in the future. Still too early to assume anything. The way I interpret the announcement is as Sony saying no game currently out supports these features, so we won't see them in PCVR titles.

@psvr2enthusiast 27 күн бұрын

It's a rational expectation on the platform. I'm happy it'll work on PC as it is, even without all the features.

@Alex_Logan22 26 күн бұрын

PSVR2 just can’t take anymore Ls after Astro is all, it’s in Xbox’s predicament.

@NoahChinnBooks 26 күн бұрын

I think the eyetracking is a HUGE deal... the whole point of eye tracking is to lower the processing load, since it only gives high resoution to where you're actually looking.

@psvr2enthusiast 26 күн бұрын

@@NoahChinnBooks I could see that being a benefit on PCs that don’t have high-powered graphics cards, but usually PC gamers just modify other settings like the resolution, texture quality, etc., to get the performance they’re looking for.

@MysteryD 25 күн бұрын

My seven year old autistic son 100% completed the PS5 astro demo and loved it.

@dictatorx5006 27 күн бұрын

I don’t think it’s gonna be as bad as people are making it out to be because mods exist

@FrankWasTaken 27 күн бұрын

I am 100% hoping to have cool stuff to report on, but those are just unknowns right now!

@fybyfyby 25 күн бұрын

Hey Frank I remember you as an ambassador of psvr1 when I bought it. Its incredible you are still doing it. You are incredible!

@silvermoon9021 27 күн бұрын

I’m hoping it’s just that the stuff that’s missing hasn’t been figured out yet. And that developers will take advantage of it in updates or future games

@moonsofjupiter 27 күн бұрын

People love to be negative about the VR2. I’m looking at this as a new opportunity and loving my VR2. I’ll wait and see how it goes but I’m glad that Sony took some initiative and are massively expanding the VR2 library. To be able to play some classic (and adult) games with mods is exciting.

@Luis-rp2lm 24 күн бұрын

They aren’t expanding anything. They’re selling basic support for $60 and running away

@kw-wg5tl 27 күн бұрын

Glad to see you back

@CleverTrevGaming 27 күн бұрын

A lot of this stuff we could see a mile away. I was a Day 1 PSVR 1 buyer. I was so excited. But then so underwhelmed, over and over. Hence why i didst purchase PSVR2. Here we are, it is sad. Thanks Frankie! You are a beacon of truth and honesty. Cheers buddy.

@FrankWasTaken 27 күн бұрын

I just want the medium to move forward & this just seems like another viewport, which is cool, but what is it really doing for the tech overall?

@shenmeowzo 27 күн бұрын

@@FrankWasTaken "just wanted the medium to move forward" PSVR2 made eye tracking a thing in games, eye tracked foveated rendering a thing in games, head haptics and resistive triggers a thing in VR, brought us the only official current gen triple A VR games, the cheapest route into high end VR by q factor of at least 2 ... and funded multiple upgrades for awesome multiplats. A lot has been achieved in a year. "What is it (PC compatibility) really doing for the tech?" They announced this as an extra for PSVR2 owners.. But you can only get the full package on PS5, where they've paid devs to add those features and/or build games around those features. See, glass can be half full as well.. OK sorry I don't mean to spam you on this.. but we have so much to celebrate. Let's grow the medium by doing that, instead of the focus being on stuff that's yet to be ticked off the wish list.

@psvr2enthusiast 27 күн бұрын

@@shenmeowzo Very valid points. Thanks for sharing!

@justinthematrix 16 күн бұрын

Thanks for the update man. My psvr2 has been collecting dust and i got way too excited for pcvr when i heard some news about it. I am in one of those situations you described where I have a gaming PC PSVR2

@DFENS013 27 күн бұрын

Great intro Frankie! 🔥

@ElaztikaVR 17 күн бұрын

I like your real input on VR NEWS regardless if its PSVR or Not at this point :) glad to see your new video.

@Fonzflicks 27 күн бұрын

They don’t want to abandon the PS5 completely. Since games get released on PC and PS5, they would rather entice players to buy the PS5 version with the missing features. That does suck for people who don’t have a ps5, but I think that’s the point. Some developers probably don’t even know how to use it.

@videogameobsession 26 күн бұрын

How many PCVR games even support HD VR, haptics in the HMD, eye tracking? Is there even a Steam API for any of those features? The PSVR2 is first and foremost a PS5 accessory. The ability to play all of the PC content is simply a bonus.. A very big bonus at that.

@videogameobsession 26 күн бұрын

*HDR VR.

@Atlas_Redux 25 күн бұрын

@@videogameobsession What do you mean "HD VR"? You mean "HDR"? SteamVR supports both HDR and eyetracking.

@ebenezerspludge8369 26 күн бұрын

That's the intro I've been looking for.

@Imhotep397 27 күн бұрын

The big problem with these criticisms are that if it was a PC VR HMD from, say, HP a whole lot of people would be talking about how the golden era of PCVR was returning. So many people started the sour grapes “those features aren’t groundbreaking” nonsense when PSVR2 launched, now many can’t stop talking about the features. Now, as it is, PSVR2 for PC is just a bit better than Quest as it doesn’t rely on compressed stream video.

@bumpsy2358 27 күн бұрын

I concur, because a Pico 4 is better than the quest 3, in pcvr. I know I have them both sitting next to me and played both on steam, in both wifi with virtual desktop. And also directly connected via usb ethernet adapter, hardwired.

@castor9907 22 күн бұрын

The issue with the PSVR2 was that before you couldn't use it on hardware that wasn't a ps5, so what you could even do with it was incredibly limited

@Imhotep397 22 күн бұрын

@@castor9907 There are a lot of inexperienced small groups of devs making VR (PC and PS5 space). Even on PC there really isn’t a lot of good optimized in VR generally. If Santa Monica or Naughty Dog or Sucker Punch or Insomniac commit to making a VR game it will be well beyond anything on any platform that’s been developed thus far. There’s no hardware problem it’s software problem. The first year of PSVR2 games in a lot of cases are just now being patched into great playable states.

@Magnum-Gaming 27 күн бұрын

This is marketed to the PlayStation PC community. They already have a PC and a Steam library. The incentive is to buy a PS5 not only to play their PS VR2 exclusives but also their PC VR library as well as sequels to their beloved exclusive PS PC games.

@Jaw0lf 26 күн бұрын

Loved the intro....exactly how I felt when reading what was missing from the PC add on. Glad I have a PSVR2 to use all of the features. Is it laziness or something they can't convert. If it can be done, eye tracking and HDR would be great as it would then be a headset I would use on PC. Otherwise I will continue to use Virtual Desktop Streamer with my Quest 3

@joelou 27 күн бұрын

Are those features just missing at launch or is it impossible to add them later?

@psvr2enthusiast 27 күн бұрын

With the PC community, I wouldn't doubt someone will figure out how to add a lot of the missing features in the future. iVRy almost got the PS VR2 headset entirely working on the PC before Sony announced they were going to release a PC option.

@Lincraft2010 27 күн бұрын

Question: Couldn't be the missing support because of missing games? Because (if Im not mistaken) there are no games that support any of that.

@FrankWasTaken 27 күн бұрын

I have no idea. They seem to say none of it is possible with a PS5, but I am unsure how that will all play out. Too excited to see what happens in August! I'll be grabbing a link box to try it out!

@martymar77b 25 күн бұрын

I bought it a few months ago for Moss 2. Haven't played it in weeks. Hoping for something to happen.

@niklasfritzell6465 17 күн бұрын

I have a quest 2 and can't wait to get a psvr 2 for my pc to finally experience native VR with oled again (previous CV1 user).

@shepo6172 27 күн бұрын

I didn’t expect the haptics to work just because other headsets don’t use haptics like that. Even if Sony made the option why would devs want to spend the time to add haptic to a headset that many people say is bad, though I love my psvr2. I only wish it had more games and this will give me more games and will be your average pcvr experience with oled.

@videogameobsession 26 күн бұрын

In agree about the lack of HMD haptics on the PC. I don't know of another PCVR platform that supports that. Or HDR for that matter. Eye tracking, is likely not a main feature for most PC based VR. The PC support for is a great bonus to the nearly 300 existing games I can already play on the PSVR2. I'm most interested about trying to play video apps, via PCVR. Will KZfaq VR work? Netflix? Blu-Ray movies, Blu-Ray 3D? And homebrew VR emulator frontends. I want to play Virtual Boy in VR, and pick arcade games by walking around an 80's arcade. I'm hoping some of that is possible now. And of course Half-Life Alyx.

@RoyHoy 27 күн бұрын

Gotta hope on mods🤞🏼

@007feck 25 күн бұрын

I’m delighted We are getting access to pc games - I accept they won’t have all the newest haptics etc, don’t think it’ll bother me. UEVR here I come - this opens up sooooo many more games

@TheCarromkid 27 күн бұрын

Negative Thumbnail Frank. I mean... i remember when you were a beacon of joy.

@FrankWasTaken 27 күн бұрын

The news was a bit upsetting, I had high hopes!

@CleverTrevGaming 27 күн бұрын

Would you rather he lied to you?

@rottieman 27 күн бұрын

@FrankWasTaken and how does it really impact gaming on pcvr....it doesn't ffs,your just following all the other 'influencer' voices like a sheep

@MadDadVR 27 күн бұрын

@@FrankWasTaken I agree. You can report but still be positive. You and Paul are our last hope.

@MaxPowerzs 27 күн бұрын

here's to hoping that it ends up being better than we think it will

@phillipobed1 27 күн бұрын

They might add features to the PC with headset. They need to update PSVR1 games to PSVR2. It would be interesting if the added Sony Mocopi to PS5 & PSVR2.

@legacysquid0625 27 күн бұрын

Weren’t these features missing to be expected? The devs of these games have to add these features and how can these features be added if psvr2 isn’t available on pc yet? No where does it say these features won’t be added later on. This is such a non issue imo. It’s still an OLED display headset. The point is you have options now and don’t have to spend even more money to play pcvr games on pc if you already have a ps5 and psvr2

@Alex_Logan22 26 күн бұрын

If the possibility for these features was there, they would’ve made that clear.

@FishyWishyClan 17 күн бұрын

For somebody who does not wanna get absolutely obliterated by meta and also doesn’t wanna obliterate his wallet. I think even without the extra features this will probably be one of the best values being able to get this for around $400 to $500 on the used market

@JerryFlowersIII 27 күн бұрын

It needs an adapter, PCs don't have Virtual Link except for a like 1 generation of GPUs before it was dropped cause HMDs didn't pick it up as a standard. (for some reason) For the triggers, devs would have to implement that, of course it's not there. I'm not sure if the diver supports these things, the driver can improve later and with specific support from devs it could become a fuller experience. I'm excited for what it is, I'm buying the adapter for what it will be at launch, not my guesses for improvement.

@JerryFlowersIII 27 күн бұрын

I'm getting it cause I already have PSVR2 and a kick ass PC. The only PC VR headset I like hardware wise is Quest 3 but I will not buy anything from Facebook period. Maybe I'll get one second hand one day but my greater hopes are for a new Index.

@FrankWasTaken 27 күн бұрын

I'm also excited to check it out, but the blog is worded like PS5 is needed for specific features, which is fine, but it would have been cool to see the door opened to some new creations in the PCVR world that could have maybe taken advantage of some of the features.

@gerber8915 25 күн бұрын

What does that first sentence mean? I'm interested in getting into VR games, but I don't know anything at this point to get started. Help?

@heeeydevon8262 25 күн бұрын

Just when I thought Sony learned from the PSVR1 that you can't launch a proprietary headset with a tiny library and expect to make sales, they do this... For the cost of the PSVR2 you can get a proper headset with eye tracking and all the bells and whistles.

@deadringer28 27 күн бұрын

I know this is comedy and I respect your VR opinion, but in all seriousness, the reason these features don't work with PCVR games is because the PC versions don't have these features If Sony were to say that these things work out of the box, when people go to play HL:A they will be let down and wonder why it isn't working. As if this would just magically appear in all PC games without developer intervention? Once devs have the hardware in hand and start requesting it they will enable it. Source: Common Sense and good business practice

@Alex_Logan22 26 күн бұрын

Common sense says Sony would’ve said that, instead of the opposite.

@deadringer28 26 күн бұрын

@@Alex_Logan22 They can't advertise features that aren't implemented. It's smart for them to say this won't work cause no games have official support for it.

@heeeydevon8262 25 күн бұрын

Steamvr definitely has eye tracking and HDR... Source, I use STEAMVR

@deadringer28 25 күн бұрын

@@heeeydevon8262 that's cool I'm about to have access to pcvr next week. Which games would you suggest I try first that have it.

@heeeydevon8262 25 күн бұрын

@@deadringer28 def get Contractors Showdown, it just came out and is almost exactly like Warzone but in VR. The Forest VR is also good, half life 2 has a free VR mod that is out of this world, ghost of Tabor is almost like escape from tarkov but in VR with a high player count. Those would be my top pics, some classics, like Pavlov are great... But they ruined all the mods when they updated it to work with PSVR so a lot of the community moved on, the game is almost entirely reliant on mods...

@user-po2wi3hx8l 17 күн бұрын

List 5 SteamVR games that already have haptic VR. I'll wait. Take a win when you get one..

@Metalgeargamecat 26 күн бұрын

Man that sucks Astro Bot 🤖 was my favorite psvr1 game I was really looking forward to a sequel …. Now we get one and no VR support ??? That would Sell Headsets I think like crazy with all the crazy things they could do with the new Tec. Damn they blew it !!!🤦‍♂️

@julianmazzola 26 күн бұрын

I honestly can't believe people are mad about this stuff. Sony shouldn't have even mentioned the lack of head haptics and adaptive triggers, because duh, the PC GAMES aren't using these features in the first place?? Even if the support were technically there, the feature sets would still be entirely missing from the games! Unless devs in the future were to add support for the 0.5% of PSVR2 PC users, which could still conceivably be added down the line. As for HDR, the iVRy developer suspects that the "HDR" that PSVR2 uses on PS5 may not be true HDR and is instead just 10-bit color with some marketing fluff and trickery, this may be why a native HDR mode won't be feasible on PC, and even if it were, it would be depending on Windows to auto-HDR the content into the headset which strikes me as quite a stretch and a pain in the ass to support. Eye-tracking would've been nice for niche social use-cases and the one sim that properly implements DFR, but I'm betting it would've tacked on a lot more development time for Sony and pushed the launch back another several months. Again, that too could come in the future if there is demand for it, but the whole community has done nothing but complain about this PC launch that Sony was never even expected to give us in the first place, so I don't blame them for abandoning all of you ingrates

@WaynerTheGamer 27 күн бұрын

But its just added though = too new to judge atm vs whatever it'll be in a few years

@xwicked_racer6554 27 күн бұрын

I've never used the other VR headsets, NOT because they're bad, no, I was going to TAFE last year & I wanted to try the PSVR2 before getting it but, it wasn't that. I think it was the Quest 2 that I saw I was gonna try that but, it won't fit on my head. Ik that you guys will say "Just adjust the strap to make it fit" Ik, but I tried to make it fit my head but I can't make it fit, the PSVR2 is better for fitting on my head. Ik that I might start a VR war here, sorry guys

@TheCarromkid 27 күн бұрын

Because your head is biased?

@FrankWasTaken 27 күн бұрын

That's fair, it kinda hurts my head, I dream of a world where we don't have to worry so much about the strap or weight, but that's in time!

@xwicked_racer6554 27 күн бұрын

@@FrankWasTaken My mum tells me this saying "Don't knock it until you try it"

@CarsandCats 27 күн бұрын

Wow. I was just about to buy a PSVR2 because of the PC support. Guess I'll stick with my PSVR1 for now. :(

@FrankWasTaken 27 күн бұрын

You can get a Quest2 for next to nothing now, you'll have a great time with that on PC!

@MadDadVR 27 күн бұрын

Get off psvr1. Psvr2 is really good. Could be better but it is still great. I own psvr2 quest 3 quest2 and psvr1

@CarsandCats 27 күн бұрын

@@FrankWasTaken Yep, I have one with the BOBO VR M2 strap and a couple batteries.

@psvr2enthusiast 27 күн бұрын

@@FrankWasTaken I have a contrary opinion on this. I have PS VR1, PS VR2, and a Quest 2, and although the Quest 2 on PC using Steam Link is great, I find the visuals on the Quest 2 headset much worse than the PS VR2, so I'm waiting to play games like Half-Life: Alyx until I can use the PS VR2 headset. Even without HDR, I'm sure the PS VR2's contrast will be superior to the washed out appearance I get with the Quest 2 visuals. When I get a chance to play VR, I pick up my PS VR2 first. My Quest 2 has been collecting dust.

@farat542 27 күн бұрын

Tbf, literally no pc now has a gpu usb c port. At least the new gpus.

@JerryFlowersIII 27 күн бұрын

Yeah I even saw a Kotaku article that clearly didn't understand that Virtual Link is not the same as any random USB C port.

@FrankWasTaken 27 күн бұрын

I knew there would be an adapter, but IDK, we got the PSVR1 - PS5 adapter for free for a bit, I think a little love (even if timed) toward that route could have gone a long way.

@farat542 27 күн бұрын

@@JerryFlowersIII Yup, its literally a special converter. Even ivry had made a custom one while working on pc support. It cant be just connected to the pc unfortunately.

@farat542 27 күн бұрын

@@FrankWasTaken Custom virtua links are upwards of 200-300$ for non supported devices on pc. 60$ is a steal tbh. Look at it this way. Instead of buying another headset, you pay 60 and get a cable or literally use one from a monitor you already have and you have access to pcs vr games including the unreal engine mods. The psvr1 adapter was basically that. An adapter like usb a to usb c. The port was different and it was very cheap. The psvr2 to pc adapter is way more advanced.

@FrankWasTaken 27 күн бұрын

Oh I had no idea!

@fulanitx 7 күн бұрын

Next, Sony will continue porting their games, now VR games, to PC. They see the potential on PC gaming.

@GaggleofDoozies 27 күн бұрын

No Astro on PSVR2 is devastating. It's clearly a message from Sony that says.. "we don't give a f*ck". A HUGE missed opportunity to sell headsets.....they could've sold the headset at a discounted price bundled with Astro.....that might have been their last chance....so sad for PSVR2.

@Alex_Logan22 26 күн бұрын

That message was first told when they gave Iron Man to Meta, but I overlooked it thinking surely they got plans.

@IanFitzwilliam 27 күн бұрын

Did frank not get invited to the behemoth showcase? Lol.

@FrankWasTaken 27 күн бұрын

I've been out of the game for a hot minute, didn't think anything of it!

@ZebraEnt 27 күн бұрын

PSVR2 had all the potential in the world but its been an afterthought for Sony since Day 1. I mean COOMMMEEEE OOON-AH!!!

@FrankWasTaken 27 күн бұрын

I just think we're at a weird time in gaming & they're fighting other battles. Sadly it looks like PSVR2 could be taking a hit during these trying times, but who knows when a renaissance could kick in & Sony will at least be there with somewhat of a solid community (hopefully) still intact.

@jakkudemoff3043 27 күн бұрын

i have a Quest 3 and a rift s and rift s is still better for pcvr because of the display port and comfort - quest 3 is still widely uncomfortable even with a Bobo headrest and the compression via USB or wireless (with gig internet) is still very very noticeable so if you own a psvr2 and pcvr cable pc, it's a no brainer to get a far more comfortable headset than a Quest with oled screens

@FrankWasTaken 27 күн бұрын

I love my Rift S so much, I wish they had updated the original rift design to modern standards. Still the most comfortable headset!

@jakkudemoff3043 27 күн бұрын

@@FrankWasTaken same - it's still a very clear headset and it's so comfortable compared to modern headsets - and you just can't beat a display port for pcvr

@Tanuvein 27 күн бұрын

You should try it with wifi 6e, there's practically no compression an you still don't have to be tethered down.

@jakkudemoff3043 27 күн бұрын

@@Tanuvein I have wifi 6e - it's still clearer and the graphics run at higher settings with a display port - it's just always better

@doomsday9973 27 күн бұрын

@@jakkudemoff3043DisplayPort is overrated I can barely tell the difference TBH

@williamskogen9895 27 күн бұрын

The annoying thing for me is the need to buy a cable. Why not include it if you know I am going to need it? That being said, I'm not all that upset about the restrictions. Almost guaranteed the mod community will take care of a lot of this. The ability to play Half-Life: Alyx and Riven will hopefully be worth it.

@louiesvrcorner 24 күн бұрын

So i paid 600 bucks for my headset when it came out, 500 bucks for the ps5, and now i gotta spend 60 bucks for another cable plus an adapter?!? Not happenin -_-

@KillerCEOZ 26 күн бұрын

Well im ok with no haptic because there will be so much good vr titles in PC that i can play. People are just never habby and always complain.

@joi0001 27 күн бұрын

PSVR 2 is the definition of lost potential

@mhobin12 27 күн бұрын

Just like the ps vita

@FrankWasTaken 27 күн бұрын

It coulda been a contender!

@joi0001 27 күн бұрын

@@mhobin12 i loved my vita so much that i dismissed my 3ds completely. It did well, 3rd party carried it the rest of it's life.

@Colloque1977 27 күн бұрын

It’s Sony…. Just watch the new venom trailer.

@oneanother1 27 күн бұрын

They need to make it standalone as well, and also not locked into their ecosystem. The price of the vr headset is a non starter as well. And then they don't develope games for them either. If only put pancake lenses on there, that would have made it more attractive. Let's see how well it goes with PC. Because a used psvr2 isn't too expensive. I don't want a ps5 either.

@ItsFreeVRealEstate 27 күн бұрын

Might be time to pivot the channel my dude

@michaelgabrielgarcia1004 25 күн бұрын

Headset will only do what's coded and the developers made Steam games not PlayStation VR games.

@FalconLX911 27 күн бұрын

This is Sony just trying to sell off it extra headsets piling up in their warehouse. 😢 so sad. It truly is the headset that could have been 😢

@iwantalot 27 күн бұрын

Trying to get picked for the meta creator programme i see.

@bumpsy2358 27 күн бұрын

quest 3 is not as great for pcvr it is good as a standalone. I have it and a PIco 4, and a quest 2, and a psvr2. Pico 4 is far better for pcvr than the quest 3, and for a much better price.

@retrosimon9843 26 күн бұрын

Preach !

@JerryFlowersIII 27 күн бұрын

Virtual Link ≠ USB C An Adapter is required no matter what.

@JerryFlowersIII 27 күн бұрын

(I wrote basically this in another comment but I wanted to make this it's own point that people might read, especially as it seems to be a wide-spread assumption.)

@FrankWasTaken 27 күн бұрын

You're fine! I appreciate (and I'm sure someone else out there will also appreciate the clarification!

@shanehumberstone5262 27 күн бұрын

Wow,Sony throwing pc owners under the same bus they threw us ps5 owners under

@weplayvrgames 27 күн бұрын

Don't get the big deal it's a PlayStation accessory if you want PC VR get a PC VR headset why should Sony provide the people who don't buy PlayStation who are complaining about PSN sign in etc a cheaper alternative headset

@Alex_Logan22 26 күн бұрын

You have a point, but so does Frank.

@jlg23us 25 күн бұрын

Sony has been slacking, aside from the crappy tracking on psvr1, they already had a platform to build from. They know what the demand was, clear visuals, great tracking, intuitive input, roomscale..truthfully, the ps5 is so watered down compared to the ps3, there's just a huge lack in innovation from sony and especially xbox

@AquaJV 27 күн бұрын

No HDR?? The other stuff could have SOME reasonable explanation. This sucks.

@AbrahamZX1 27 күн бұрын

What VR game even supports HDR on PC?

@AquaJV 26 күн бұрын

@@AbrahamZX1 Probably not many. Same with the other features. But, there are many pc games that *do* natively support hdr that are playable with vr mods, (cyberpunk, re8, etc.) which would’ve looked amazing. My issue is that it couldn’t have been too difficult to carry over that _one_ feature at the very least. We got nothing. This coming with hdr support could’ve been pretty big for pcvr.

@blabla1177-r7u 27 күн бұрын

Quest 3 is better option for PCVR. Even Pico 4.

@bumpsy2358 27 күн бұрын

No it isn't I have both.

@videogameobsession 26 күн бұрын

Frank, I've been a supporter of yours since day one, but I have to disagree with you here, buddy. This new option to use the PSVR2 on the PC is a *very good thing*. Especially if you already own a PSVR2. This is going to give us everything the PSVR currently doesn't, namely games like Half-Life Alyx, social apps, VR video watching options, and homebrew VR options. I wouldn't sweat the lack of HDR, haptic support in the HMD, and eye tracking, as most PCVR games don't even support those to begin with. The $60 breakout box is cheap.. Less than the price of a single game, and it'll open up so much! The first thing I'm going to play on the PC (with my new $449 PSVR2) is going to be a classic video game emulator, which not only supports most system, but also throws you into an 80's bedroom, where you interact with the games, systems, and so much else.. Then you play it on s very realistic looking CRT.. It all looks gorgeous in VR! This is something I've wanted to experience for years.. And now I'll be able to, on a $450, OLED VR. I can't wait! Also, as far as AstroBot goes, it looks incredible. I had a blast with the included PS5 demo/game. This one looks like it's improved everything. I was surprised to see it wasn't a VR game, but here's the thing. Team Asobi is a small team of devs. I imagine they need to, first and foremost, make sure they get this game to the masses, and then work on the VR component. Don't forget, this is a tactic which Sony has done many times. Adding VR after the game has released.. Gran Turismo 6, GT7, WipEout Omega, The Last Guardian, No Man's Sky, REVII (via Capcom), REVIII (via Capcom), RE4 (via Capcom), among others. So I am hopeful that AstroBot will receive the same VR addition, via a patch. OR.. Better yet, perhaps there will be a deluxe purchase of the game which includes the full remaster of AstroBot Rescue Mission as well. Not that would be amazing, and something that would likely sell a lot of PSVR2 HMDs. -MattH

@Alex_Logan22 26 күн бұрын

They would’ve said something if that was the case for Astro, but it’s clear they don’t intend to add VR. RE7 launched day 1 with VR, RE4 Remake was revealed with VR support announced so we knew it was coming. Games like Village, GT7, NMS etc all launched before the hardware.

@videogameobsession 26 күн бұрын

The only thing clear, at this point in time, is that no details.have been provided regarding VR. Team Asobi is a small group of very talented developers, who are also very skilled at designing VR. I'm not a betting man, but I'd put money on AstroBot, having some type of PSVR2 support added, perhaps even by the time it launches this fall. What they've .shown of AstroBot at this point, is basically just a teaser. Expect.more details, with a proper, in depth, trailer. Sony/Team Asobi is well aware that people want 1. The previous AstroBot Rescue Mission, remastered for PSVR2, and 2. A sequel. I am confident that we will be seeing both.

@kaecatlady 27 күн бұрын

Sooo... PSVR2 to PCVR is a... 3D viewer? Wow. How exciting... 😒

@AbrahamZX1 27 күн бұрын

No, it's a proper PCVR headset, like a Valve Index would be.

@kaecatlady 27 күн бұрын

Ahhh... my bad. A 2019 3D viewer with OLED screens. Awesome.

@bumpsy2358 27 күн бұрын

@@kaecatlady asshats abound. What is wrong with people these days. Especially those too poor, or whatever to own all of the headsets mentioned, and be able to know from experience the truth. People with psvr2 kits, and high tech pc, and 4090's will be in heaven on steam. LIke myself

@VirtualRobotsRevolt 27 күн бұрын

Happy for people who needed a pc vr headset and already had psvr 2. But this was a massive let down. I'm holding out hope that modders will be able to bring some of this stuff back. I will not be buying until i hear someone got headset vibration working or eye tracking.

@FrankWasTaken 27 күн бұрын

I'm wondering the same, I don't think current modders have gotten any of that functionality working, but maybe with the proper link box? Just kinda feels like PSVR1 all over again in a weird way, or going back a gen in PCVR, which is fine, but I think it's a small audience.

@psvr2enthusiast 27 күн бұрын

What other PC VR titles already had headset vibration or eye tracking? I am currently not aware of any, but I'm not a PC gamer for the most part.

@bumpsy2358 27 күн бұрын

I did not need a pcvr headset, I have several, and I am happy to be able to get this adapter for my pcvr steam games. I have the rift, the rift-s, the quest 1, quest2, quest3,pico4, and the psvr2.

@dogmeat32able 24 күн бұрын

At last some know vr youtuber saying the truth and talking about the most important fact ....buying controllers separatly. Its the most obivious fact that sony didnt put any trust into it since their soft (butched) launch .

@cn8299 23 күн бұрын

This just means that ALL of PCVR is mid considering no other headset has these features either or at least not for this price point.

@Ryan-tn4gk 27 күн бұрын

Well time to sell it. I bought it day 1 and had a lot of fun at first. Played some good games. But im mainly a quest 2 pcvr user. I just bought the psvr 2 for the exclusives. But since there hasnt been any its been collecting dust. Then they announced the pc adapter. All what i was hoping for was eye tracking but sony cant even get that together. Its such an uncomfortable headset for me too. I even bought the glober cluster mod and it barley even helped. Well time to get a quest 3

@psvr2enthusiast 27 күн бұрын

Funny, I feel almost entirely opposite to this. The Globular Cluster head strap/mod eliminated any head discomfort I'd get with the PS VR2 original head strap. I used to not be able to play more than 20 minutes at a time without feeling pressure on my head, but can play as long as I'd like without any discomfort at all now. I played some of Half-Life: Alyx using Steam Link on my Quest 2, but the visuals were really washed out and I'm waiting for PC compatibility with the PS VR2 headset to play any more. My Quest 2 is the one collecting dust.

@bumpsy2358 27 күн бұрын

quest 3 is not as great for pcvr it is good as a standalone. I have it and a PIco 4, and a quest 2, and a psvr2. Pico 4 is far better for pcvr than the quest 3, and for a much better price.

@Ryan-tn4gk 26 күн бұрын

@@psvr2enthusiast for me, the mod still gave me the same pressure on my forehead. My play sessions only increased from 30 minutes without it, to only about an hour to hour and a half with it. And regarding PC support, I really am more distracted by the Mura of the psvr 2 display than I ever was of the blockiness of the display compression with the quest 2. And I have a friend that's in the same boat. Sold his psvr 2 for a quest 3 and is way happier with his purchase. You did say you used steam link though and I've heard that gives the worst results. Have you tried virtual desktop? That one usually works better for me.

@Alex_Logan22 26 күн бұрын

@@bumpsy2358 Funny, John from Digital Foundry swears on the quality of PCVR wireless streaming to Quest 3 and says it’s better than anything from PSVR2. Maybe it’s just a wireless preference lapsing his judgment, I don’t know.

@bumpsy2358 26 күн бұрын

@@Alex_Logan22 Psvr2 on the pc is going to be a whole lot different than psvr2 on a ps5. I have a Nvidia 4090, and a intel 13700k in my pc, compared to a ps5. Quest 3 is a telephone cpu and gpu, period. As I stated earlier, the quest 3 is topped on pcvr, by the pico 4, as I have both, and that is wired pcvr or wireless pcvr, at a cheaper price. I bought mine brand new a year ago(pico4) for 425 dollars and it has 256 gb of storage memory. I bout the quest 3 a little over a week ago, for $500 dollars with 128 gb of memory. I tested them against each other thoroughly to determine if it was worth the upgrade and it was not, I am getting ready to take the quest 3 back to walmart for a return as I type this.

@shenmeowzo 27 күн бұрын

Fuckin ell, all aboard the negative nancy night train amirite My lord, thank you so much for this golden crown you have bestoweth upon me, but WAIT! For there are no rubies nor sapphires set into its frame!!! BE GONE!! We eatin good. This little dongle opens up the entire PCVR catalogue, to be played exactly as any other PCVR headset would experience them, for anyone who's got a PSVR2 already.. which is how Sony announced it. A side mission. Not a reason to buy a PSVR2. Who knows what else will be added in future if head haptics etc being industry standard and all devs code for it. That'd be great. Till then, man we got soo much cool shit goin off in VR land, unbelievable that people find so much time to complain about what hasn't happened yet, rather than focusing on the cool shit we do have right now. Thankyou for coming to my Ted Talk.

@FrankWasTaken 27 күн бұрын

I have never said there was a lack of content or anything of the sort, I would just argue that PSVR2 does not seem to be the PCVR headset I had imagined.

@shenmeowzo 27 күн бұрын

@@FrankWasTaken so that's the problem.. we "imagine" something, then when reality doesn't match it we declare reality to be a disappointment rather than look at what we are getting. I would have expected VR fans especially to be prescient of the fast evolving landscape of this tech. Like, look at the awesome shit we got. It's just gonna keep gettin better

@Alex_Logan22 26 күн бұрын

You have a point about how Sony initially announced it like a minor diversion within a different blog post, but Frank’s not really the negative Nancy type and was a huge positive force during PSVR1’s years while everyone else was dogging on it.

@shenmeowzo 26 күн бұрын

@@Alex_Logan22 he's had a few unnecessarily negative takes recently. Maybe he's been havin a hard time IRL.. or maybe influenced by terrible takes from the likes of dreamcastguy.. dunno how to explain it.. but this is a terrible take. If I've got a Sega I'm not gonna cry that I don't get a Mario game on my mega drive. I've I buy a 4k blu Ray disc I'm not gonna cry that it isn't 4k on my 1080 TV.. Similar thing here.. he imagined something, that wish didn't come true (and was never promised) but make a clickbaity video saying its a disappointment anyway. It's the thin end of the wedge but it contributes to these crazy waves of negativity that are more likely to harm PSVR2 sales than any theoretical lack of effort on sonys part imo.

@Alex_Logan22 23 күн бұрын

@@shenmeowzo I agree there's been a lot of unnecessary/harmful negativity, but I also think Sony isn't helping especially with AstroBot probably doing more harm than anything.

@nttylr1682 27 күн бұрын

Writing on the wall Sony has abandoned psvr 2 don't need to defend them it's what that do!!!

@ebenezerspludge8369 26 күн бұрын

I just don't want a wired headset at this point. If it was like $250 maybe I would give it a try but it's more than a PS5. That's crazy.

@G-starr13 25 күн бұрын

You do realize it would be more expensive if it was wireless, and with the amount of tech in there, it would be even more of a loss, right? Get a Quest 2 if you want cheap VR.

@ebenezerspludge8369 25 күн бұрын

@@G-starr13 I have a quest 2. I got it a year before PSVR 2 came out. No going back to wired after that. They should have done away with some of the useless stuff and went wireless also making it not backwards compatible was the final nail in the coffin for me.

@liquidtruth7954 27 күн бұрын

For the love of god go to quest already , games are good , were getting new aaa games and with optimizer you can make games look way way better than the stock option