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Jamie really feels like he embodies “Inside every cynic is a disappointed idealist”

I loved Jamie so much. His character development was so amazing in the earlier seasons. I cried when the writers massacred my boy in the last season

It never struck me until now- The reason Jaime never mentioned why he killed the king was because then he would have to reveal there was a cache of wildfire in King's Landing. With all the families, and their feuds, the change of political power over time... Someone would find and use it if it wasn't kept secret.

Something to add; After Jaime is shaved bald and grew a beard at the start of ASoS, he is saddened to think Cersei will be angry that he doesn't look as much like her anymore at his eventual return to King's Landing

I felt like Jamie only began picking fun at Brienne because he saw everything he wanted to be and couldn’t in her. She’s everything an honorable knight would be, and still can’t be due to her gender. It might even subconsciously sting even more because he feels he’s not worthy for the kingsguard and is on it, while someone like Brienne is mocked for wanting to uphold those vows as a woman. I feel like his shift in attitude towards Brienne, and the romantic tension that bubbles up is because Jamie is finally accepting in the books that it wasn’t stupid to want to be what Brienne is. Circumstances caused his life to be different. Brienne also mentions in the books she is neither a daughter or son, just some thing born to her father from the gods to mock him. The Lannisters have a similar storyline with Tyrion, Cersei, and Jamie. Cersei and Jamie looked exactly alike before puberty and could switch between themselves their roles (cersei going to sword train while jamie sat back and did reading, sewing, or learning to play an instrument). It’s said Tyrion was born to Tywin to punish him, and his twin children are pratically the same person and are sleeping together (becoming one). Idk just some really intresting parallels George sets up between his characters that interact often.

Jaime and Tommen “going away inside” is one of the saddest things in the books 😭

The problem with the 'Wear it like Armour' philosophy is that you take what the world says about you and keep it with you. You then carry it with you yourself always and can never move past it because it's YOU that's keeping it. It can protect you, but it can and will weigh you down as well. It's a short term solution and not something to be done in the long run.

I think the tragedy is that he is forever reviled for the one good thing he has ever done and praised for every horrible act he has ever committed

One thing about Jamie in the books (in regards to his kids), in a pov chapter after joffery is dead, Jamie feels nothing. He considered them to be more Robert's than his. He goes so far as to think he can just give Cersei more kids. It was pretty cold.

Jaime is a brave knight who slew an evil dragon and fell for the most beautiful woman in the realm… just the minor inconvenience that the dragon was a king and the woman was his sister 😬

Although he was considered an adult by Westerosi standards, Jaime was still in his teens when he killed Aerys iirc. If he was afraid of repercussions, if when he saw Aerys's monstrosity and didn't know what to do until Tywin was at the gates, it's only natural. Why should he be so selfless as to not worry about his own life? Particularly at so young an age? It's a big ask. In terms of speculation, I read Cersei as an abuser. I suspect she pushed Jaime into experimentation early as a means of taking power over him. We know that Cersei always had a struggle where she envied the perks that went along with Jaime's position as the son, not the daughter. Manipulating Jaime so that she had power over him, could dominate him, might have allowed her to maintain a sense of herself in the face of seeing Jaime advance in the world to a position where he stood to be taken seriously by someone they valued (Tywin) and she did not, simply by virtue of Cersei's sex.

another way brienne is a beautiful inverse to jaime is that she feels everything very fully and very obviously- wears her heart on her sleeve. If i recall correctly, Jaime eventually gives up on teasing her because he feels there's no sport in it- she's simply too vulnerable for this to be fun for him. P.S. would love to see a brienne video when you're done with the lannisters

Jaime swore an oath to catelyn that he would never hurt any of her blood so him breaking the drive of river run was him keeping his oath not dishing out justice.

Jaime doesn't kill his cousin in the books tho,he dies from a horse accident when they are traveling through the riverlands with Brienne

I’m so happy that George changed the original outline and gave us this Jamie instead of the stereotypical villain. His redemption arc is great so far, and I love me a grey character. He and Tyrion are my favorite POVs

The best thing about Jaime’s backstory in my own personal opinion is that it’s kind of like an old Greek tragedy in away, Jaime saved an entire city…but he is tragically is viewed as (and later sort of ends up later) becoming the villain.

For all that Jaime is one of my favourite characters, it is still too easy to forget that... no, he has not actually committed to "redemption" yet. Jaime is still very much intwined with systems of violence, of corruption: he has distanced himself from the people most dangerous to his psyche but this also prompts him to direct all blame to said persons: Jaime could very easily continue to shift any & all responsibility for his actions unto Tywin, Rhaegar, Tyrion, Cersei. Jaime could also very easily sabotage the relationship between he & Brienne by attempting to replicate the early relationship he had with Cersei: assigning Brienne as his minder and conscience, her successes as his, his faults as hers. While Brienne is now physically more powerful than Jaime, in all other ways (wealth, authority, allies, age, "experience") he has the upper hand. The dynamic between Jaime & Brienne is an exploration of chivalry: what is beautiful, what is monstrous; what is honour and when does its concept stop serving its purpose; oaths and vows, the limits of fealty; gender roles; the hypocrisy of "righteousness" being achieved through violence (this is something most explored in Brienne's chapters and imminently relevant to Jaime's, as he finds an identity outside "twin" or "warrior"). The psychology of Jaime is fascinating but it is very, very easy to praise him whilst demonizing Cersei: it is a habit I myself often fall into. This study & Cersei's reminded me, again, of that habit & how very far Jaime needs to go, introspectively, before a redemption is truly possible. Assuming he survives long enough to have one, of course.

This is a great point about Jaime not knowing what he wants. He thought he knew what he wanted, but every time he got it, it was horrible. So perhaps he thinks that he literally DOESN’T know what he wants because he hesitates to decide for himself what is good for him because his decisions lead him to all these horrible things.

This has been my favorite GoT character analysis so far. Jaime really surprised me by going from someone I thought I would hate to my favorite character, with the best arc and chance for redemption. I hope GRRM does him justice, unlike how the ending of the show undid every bit of growth he had.

Part of the whole "ending the war without bloodshed" thing is because he swore to Caitlyn never to take up arms against the Tullys and their allies again, and he is trying to keep to that oath.

What you say about relationship and rivalry between twins. Is ACTUALLY spelled in the books. but from Cersei point of view. Jaime and Cersei live in a very unfair gender devided society for women and Cersei narrations shows a strong resentment towards Jaime for him being a boy, she hides it under honey words and how much she "loves" him. But I think Cersei genuinely hates Jaime to some level. Far greater (Or equally in the best case) than what she says she loves him.

Yes, about the difference between Jaime and Cersei, I think it does have to do with Jaime's status as heir. Even with an absent father, as heir Jaime would have more access to adults capable of helping and educating them, be they servants, master at arms, knights, bannermen, and friends. And if we know anything about Westerosi culture, it's that Cersei most likely grew up like Sansa was. With a Septa and a friend. Which, in Cersei's case, Cersei possibly killed her. This situation or difference in upbringing between boys and girls could also be seen in the relationship of Lannister boys and their aunts/uncles. Jaime and Tyrion are the only ones with fond memories or relationships with their extended family, Cersei, on the other hand, seemed to have grown up almost isolated, probably because of Tywin and his view of her more as a political token. All of Cersei's memories of her uncles are during large gatherings, and her opinion of them is a repeat of Tywin's opinion, or something formed in her adulthood. While Tyrion, for example, had conversations, he sought and found affection in them. Like Jaime, although this one, unlike Tyrion, did not seem to need his extended family to supply Tywin's lack of love, possibly because he had everything that his status as heir gave him, plus Cersei.

I like his character development. He is actually a man of honor in his own way. At least in the show.

Another thing I would like to add is that the loss of a limb is very similar to the loss of a loved one. I know it sounds like an abstract concept to some but in my work I've seen people go through mourning for missing limbs and senses like a loved family member. It's a very deep rooted loss to lose a literal Part of Yourself and what that means for independence, autonomy, and mortality. I once had an older man tell me that there's nothing more damning to prove how human we are than having a piece of your body die before the rest of you as evidence. But I suspect they're also could be some insight or personal growth in that experience. Not to imply that trauma is required for growth of course (I hate that trope tbh) but I think in losing his hand Jaime was forced to explore the other parts of himself outside of his knighthood and what the Knighthood was symbolic of. Hands are also symbolic of our professions in a lot of ways after all. My best friend is an occupational therapist that reteaches people how to physically function & live their lives again after severe accidents or health declines, and she's noted several times before that it's interesting how a change in physical functionality often translates to new perspectives and insights about ourselves by being forced to move through the world in a new way.

I don’t like the way people talk about “redemption” for Jaime (who is by far my favourite character) because it suggests a sort of black and white understanding of morality. One of the best parts of Martin’s writing is how he captures the complexity of real life. There is no good or evil, just complicated people. Jaime is the perfect example of this. Whatever he does throughout the story he is scrutinised by both the readers and the other characters. He’s damned if he does, damned if he doesn’t.

I always call him "Ser Jaime", because as his character stands now, he deserves that title.

I also find myself thinking about how Jaime had to stand by while each of the queens he was to protect were being raped & beaten by the kings he was to protect- how much worse for him when it was his sister/lover/mother of his children.

This was an excellent video. I think Jamie's character is one of the most interesting in the books. I think the reader can go from seeing him as a cold-blooded villain to understand some of the things he's done and feeling empathy for him. It's quite an experience.

Theres a scene early in the first book where Ned tells Robert Jaimes a monster because he saw him sitting on the throne, and Robert laughs in his face.

Thank you for this video. Ever since I first started reading GoT at 13 years old (can't believe it's been over a decade!) Jaime has been by far my favourite character. It felt strange that despite there being characters whose morality (Ned), intelligence (Tyrion), or a combination of those (Jon) I really related to, I kept rooting for the guy who seemed like one of the most evil characters in the book. I personally struggle with the trauma and low self-worth that seems inherent to growing up a gifted child with undiagnosed ADHD. As a child and teenager, I always knew I was brilliant, but the world seemed determined to drag me down. I still remember one moment when I was in 5th grade. The grade average required to finish with honours was 4.75. I looked down at my certificate of graduation. 4.74. I had a 5 from almost every subject, a couple of 4s... And a 2 for behaviour. Had that been even a 3, I would have realised my parents' dream of me graduating with honours. But no. It felt so unfair, and on top of many other slights, I started feeling that the world hates me. So I hated the world in return, laughed at it, pretended not to be bothered by anything and not caring about anyone. I was a sarcastic twit, joked all the time, ridiculed everyone who tried to accomplish anything. I never put in any effort. I just coasted on my above average intelligence. I think that is why it was so easy to relate to Jaime. His humour hiding his disappointment and hurt. His journey of opening up to Brienne was beautiful. It took me years after reading these chapter to go on this journey myself, but when I did, I often did feel as if I was Jaime, talking to Brienne, finally being real for the first time in years.

This was the only time where the spoiled rich boy ended up being my favorite character.

Most tragic thing about Jaime is contrast between what he knows about himself, and what world know. He falls into denial of his true idenity not because he don't want to be honourable and righteous. He deceives himself, because he want to fit into the persona that was created by opinions about him.

Have to point out, Jaime dream happened when he slept on a weirwood tree stump. A magic tree. It’s quite possible it’s not all his imagination. It’s probable someone sent this dream to him.

How amazing is GRRM to be able to create such amazing 3 dimensional characters in one family let alone a whole book series

In the books he never killed his cousin in captivity. It is a very important point, I wonder how you don't know it. 32:57

Please keep up with the ASOIAF content. An episode about Theon Greyjoy would be incredible

Damn, I didn't realize how much I related to the Kingslayer until most of this breakdown applied to me. Clicking on a MLTT video always means I'm gonna end up questioning some things about me life. Pointing out that Jaime is the middle child made a lot of things connect. I think the whole twins aspect is interesting, I'm not a twin but me and my older brother are very close and I think growing up I formed a lot of my identity around being the younger brother, following whatever he was doing and supporting his wants more than my own. One of the problems with that was once we were adults and doing our own things I was faced with finding a new identity for myself while not only being used to following someone else but so used to supporting their needs that it's been challenging to even know what I should be doing for myself. I feel like that's kind of where Jaime ended up. You can move past the people you were putting your identity and direction in, and you can decide what sort of person you'd like to be, but then it's challenging to know what you can do from there to actually live out that identity and you end up just kind of passively going with the flow hoping you come across an opportunity to do what you think you should. But like we see with Jaime the problem with that approach is the opportunities that come up are usually small and insignificant, he probably wants a chance to do something big but doesn't know how or what without someone to give him that direction.

"Goldenhand the Just" was perhaps the funniest, most naive, and most endearing thought Jaime has in the entire series.

Jamie is such a great character for most of the series. And Nicolaj is an amazing actor, great at playing a villain, which is why I want him to play Doctor Doom in the new fantastic four films.

well george has said hes exploring redemption with jaime so i do think he is on that road. in fact i suspect in winds (if it ever comes out) hes going to be faced with a lot of the questions you posed. especially considering he will be meeting lady stoneheart the woman he wronged and failed the most. i suspect bran, the edmure trebuchet situation, the red wedding will all be brought up. even brienne’s injuries considering he sent her on a quest that was meant for himself will all put a lot of things in to perspective for jaime and send him down a new course.

After watching this cements Jamie as someone who I fully consider a person who wants to the right thing but he just unfortunately doesn't understand what that actually means. It's tragic

Jamie, the golden Anti-Skywalker.

13:22 I think that’s a little harsh on Jamie sure it was impulsive but that’s because Aerys order the pyromancer to blow up king landing and kill over 500,000 people so he can’t exactly plan it out if he only had minutes to decide.

I would love to see Jaime get his redemption and have him end up a hero, but i don’t see it happening. He’ll come to the realization that he’s just not a very good guy and he’ll make peace with that and possibly embrace it or he’ll die before he can really make a big change or he will be redeemed and he’ll go out a hero, but everyone else will believe he was a monster. I’m keeping my fingers crossed he gets a happy ending or at least finds peace.

I have personal experience with dissociation. I think of my dissociated state as going into the storm shelter. I’m stuck in a small space but I’m safe from the storm that is raging outside.

This was the most comprehensive, well considered and insightful review of Jamie's character that I've seen. Well done lad.

I think Jaime is more empathetic, than his sister because of Tyrion. She has no links to love other than her father who she tries to emulate. Jamie has more than just his father, He has his brother. He knows how to love, and he knows what his brother has to go through being that he’s fought on his behalf multiple times.

Jaime is a tragic figure really. He had a lot of going for him (discounting the obvious child on child SA - Cersei was the instigator and the dominant one), got knighted by his knightly idol, etc. And then that 15 year old became a hostage in a fancy dress to a cruel madman. And had to bear him for 2 years until that Day of Reckoning. I am fully convinced that 17 year old Jaime wasn't fully present in his mind when he killed the king, the whole thing left him with PTSD and he also never fully left the 'inside place'. Going 'inside' was his coping mechanism and I think he stayed there until confessing to Brienne. And with no other friends left to him, with judgment and scorn, it's no wonder he latched onto his toxic family, and bound himself even closer with Cersei. There was really no one else there for him. From the Kingsguard only Ser Barristan lived still but he was injured and away, and I doubt his character would make him suitable to lead Jaime through it. Ned Stark didn't bother to ask and got deceived by a mask of confidence. So Jaime had no other allies.

FYI: while I cannot speak to KZfaq's algorithm and how it reacts to mentions of SA, SA is also a really useful acronym that can help prepare people for triggering content in a shorter, gentler way. Using SA instead of directly referencing sensitive material is a caring thing to do for your audience. The term can help people avoid being triggered by more explicit content warnings. Sometimes even the mention of the act can trigger trauma responses. If that seems over the top, consider that even if it prevents just one person from having a trauma response, it is worthwhile.

44:29 yeah, she says so enough in the books. He got a sword and she got nothing, and from that day on she was left with septas and carers and he was taken on as heir. He was taught he could be worthy and how to get to that point, she was taught she never had much worth to begin with outside of marriage. It makes sense she has the darker mindset, and would want that control over his mind.

I always loved Jamie’s character! You did an awesome job of explaining the psychology behind him and his motives at point that really made sense to me as a reader

I enjoy these videos so much despite not being a reader of the series and you make me want to read the books; I will however not put myself through another Wheel of Time and risk the author dying before the series is complete.

I think you see him as Lawful Good, battling his inner moral compass due his turns and desires. I see him as Lawful Neutral who has inner battles not due to what is good pr bad, but by he deviated from his own code of chivalry.

I love how “idealism” is playing in the background music. ❤

Can you do Theon/reek next? But I would say they are different persons in show and books

good analysis. I have speculated whether the dreams about Eddard Stark maybe a foreshadow of a future book, as there is the possibility that as the winter reaches the Stark castle all the dead starks including Eddard will reanimate (placing him and his wife of opposite sides of the conflict). I have always liked the symbolism of the hand and fingers imagery in the books too. Related Jamie Looses his hand Tywin was the hand and Jamie separates from the hand and its influence, including the sexual imagery he distances from Cersei, Being maimed he moves closer to Tyrion. I wonder if Jaime is less cold than Cersie because of Tyrions influence he seems the only person he could have got that early on or perhaps his mother. the new hand he has ironically he wears like armour.

First off, I want to say: I love this series of videos about the Lannisters! They've been my favourite characters in the book series and your insights are really interesting. I can't wait for your Cerei video. I think if Jaime immediately became moral and just, it would come off as a little too easy. He's had a lifetime of growing up a Lannister, both in the sense of how he sees himself/how he wants to be seen and also how he deals with others ie. the river lands. My impression is that he's still really unsure of who he is and what his place in this world is and, like any of us, wonders how he'll be viewed by others. His interactions with Hoss is interesting, even though he acts outwardly like he doesn't like this kid, he seems to want to learn from him. If he was satisfied with the way he was, I'd be more concerned but he's clearly not happy doing the bidding of Cersie in taking Riverrun or with having to interact with the Freys. He even abandoned his duty without any hesitation to help Brienne.

I've always seen Jaime as an honorable guy. He just make his own code. He don't follow his vows or let anyone force him to do something chivalrous, but if something really clicks with his honor code, he's relentless and very very thorough. He jumped into the bear pit, ended the siege of Riverun without breaking his oath, because he respected Kat and a lot more. What a character...

Please please please do Cersei next! This was an amazing and descriptive breakdown of Jaimes mental and cognitive processing and problem solving

I dont think Ned haunts Jamie just because Ned was a honorable man. I think Jamie actually looked up to Ned, Ned was the embodiment of everything Jamie wants to be. Honerable, respected and renowned in battle. And Jamie sat back and did nothing to stop him being killed at the hands of his tyrant son. Just like he sits back and does nothing to defend himself. I think thats the reason Ned makes such a huge impact on Jamie next to everyone else. When everyone else calls him kingslayer he has a Easier time shrugging it off. But when it comes from people like Ned and Brian. People who embody everything he wants to be, it cuts him very deeply. In his mind he probably sees it as Honorable to keep the truth to himself, taking responsibility for breaking his oath dispite the reasons. But his desire to want to go down hlin history as a Honorable man leads him to confide in Brian about why he actually broke his Oath. He confided in the one honerable person like himself who history will likely judge unfairly due to her gender.

I would love a Break down in the character of the 3 Baratheon brothers

Awe. I love your opening animation. It's so tranquil.

Another great video!

Amazing video, i love the depth

Your Lannister videos are so thought-provoking, even beyond ASOIAF & literature, this one probably even more so than the first two! I suggest you make one on Kevan after Cersei. I've always found him very interesting,both different &similar to his kin and a fair bit like jaime. What a psycho(logical) gift this entire family is! Btw, i've only now realised how similar Jaime is to Tyrion(&cersei).Apart from his recklessness,arrogance &sarcasm, I've always seen him as the least Lannaster-ish at heart . Thnx for opening my eyes😁😳🤯🖤🖤🖤

Jaime is the middle child but only by a few minutes. Being the heir, he was also the oldest in a way. He would have been treated as the oldest over Cersei because she didn't count in that way. But he gave way to her because she felt (and was, let's face it) passed over.

2 minutes in then I hear "on the one hand" and all was right in my world, for a moment.

I had a long one hour drive home late tonight. Listening to this relaxed me and made the time fly. Thank you!

Loved the Tywin one. Glad too see a new one!

He basically goes from a skeptic, cynical boy who wants glory, to villainous but not evil (capable of malice), to anti-hero

I kind of loved idea that Jamie outperformed Tyrion in few battles. Sure you can read the books all you want, but practice is a whole different beast which made Jamie beat Tyrion.

Love this!!

So glad I discovered this channel!

Soo happy this is out

This keeps reminding me I really need to pick up ASOIAF books cause the characters go through a lot more and it's interesting. Plus I'm sure I won't be disappointed Jaime's development in the end compared to the show (super disappointing). The length of the books is a bit intimidating. It makes more sense to me now that he was conflicted a lot, protecting the King of fulfilling the promise. And learned he watched traumatic stuff when he was in the kingsguard. I understood why some of the stuff was cut in the beginning of GoT for the first few seasons (we don't count the last ones) and didn't see much of him dealing with his internal conflicts and unfulfilled flaw. I so can't wait to see your video on Cersei. And hope you can do one of Brienne eventually

Hey what's up just dropping in to say do more of this, please and thank you

Thank goodness you chose to discuss the Jamie from the books, if it was the show I would have thrown up, but still have watched 👍

❤ Great Vid bro!

Great video!

👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 great video essay

You don't really deal much with his relationship with Brienne (even cutting her out of the Lannister family portrait in which she is so interestingly included--probably for Entertainment Weekly), and I feel that their thoughts of one another throughout A Feast for Crows and their reunion at the end of A Dance with Dragons are very important for Jaime's character (and hers). It would be interesting for you to do a video about Brienne and/or Jaime and Brienne.

can't wait for cersie analysis

Really love this video. I think you're a bit strict with judging his acts now as mainly for how it will be conceived rather as out of guilt or for redemption or betterment. I think in a way those are tied. I think Jaime is at this point more concerned with finding himself anew. He lost his sword-hand (and with that all he defined himself as), his relationship to his twin is suffering, by that point when he's appeasing the riverlands (which defined him as he saw them as one extended person, and not just in a way to push his faults on her. Actually it's quite the opposite at first. In the beginning he seems to see her as the better part, only making a180 once he finds out about her unfaithfulness), he lost his brother, father and first born son too (who also played a part in defining him, as they pulled him anywhich way they wanted. As you mentioned, he's a bit like the glue keeping his family together, in a way, though they'Re all clashing and impossible to match, trying to keep his family happy and at peace with each other, and funnily, it's with him gone, that they implode), in a way. The only thing that'S left to him is his reputation and that's a pretty shitty one he hates. On the other hand, due to "wearing it like an armor" he has somewhat allowed the reputation to define him. He became what they saw him as. So for him to change how they see him is not just a means of bettering his own mention, it is, in a way, a part, almost synonymous with reinventing himself. And he desperately needs to. I think that may not necessarily mean redemption, I think he's necessarily seeking redemption---but he HAS to find himself. All the things that made up who he was are gone. So, he has to find new ways, and I think it'S fitting that therefore how he is seen is a natural starting point for him. So, I wouldn't be so harsh as to say it'S simply selfishly to better his image not to become a "better person" also. In that regard, I also think the order of his thoughts is a bit crucial. He does something good or right first, then comments about how it feels right, and then about how this might affect his image, and then that this might make him "Goldenhand the Just". In his own thought process the just act comes first, followed by both the emotional satisfaction he feels at it and the hope that it might change how he'S seen and thus who he may become in the future. I'm also looking forward to, whether we'll get more about his "justice". He calls it Justice when he hangs those men in the Riverlands, and he invents the moniker "the just" for himself. And he seemingly feels emotional gratification, "feeling like Justice". So I wonder if he'll try and go with that now. With Jaime you can kind of see different ethics systems failing. Doing things for Honor, Glory and Loyalty all failed him, so maybe he'll go for a sort of personal justice.

9:43 I think nobody asks because they see the way he acts, if he seemed like a nice guy then people might wonder about it since it would seem out of character, but since he acts so horrible, they might think yeah, that seems like something that guy would do

I'm sorry if I'm just noticing something that's been going on, but I LOVE your intro!

I have a theory that Tywin sexually molested Cersei as a child, and the sexual relationship with Jaime started as Cersei acting out her trauma. Lots of farm kids see animals mating, but it doesn't seem to lead automatically to sibling incest. Consider: Tywin has Cersei keeping secrets with him, i. e., that she's going to marry Prince Rhaegar, but don't tell anyone. But in Cersei's memory, Joanna isn't there. Why? Tywin trusts Joanna to manage the Westerlands for him while he's ruling the Seven Kingdoms for him, but he entrusts this hot secret to a small child without informing his wife? We know Joanna doesn't know about this planned scheme because before her death because just before her death she invites the Princess of Dorne to Casterley Rock to discuss a marriage agreement. Enticing a victim into keeping secrets with them is part of the groomer's playbook. Then there's Cersei's hysterical tears when her father summons her to live with him in the Tower of the Hand with him. Her Aunt Genna takes this for nervousness about how she'll do at court, but Cersei's memory doesn't confirm that. Was she really feeling insecure about her looks... or was she terrified about living with her father without a high-ranking female relative to keep him in check? When you consider Cersei's joy at watching the Hand's Tower burn, it certainly would fit in, wouldn't it?

I have enjoyed listening to your analysis of the GOT character’s. Why they do what they do? Great job 👏

Amazing video

You kind of have to remember when talking about Honor and Justice in the Goldenhand section that Jaime is in a Medieval world, where your Honor is your legacy, and Justice can be highly subjective depending on your point of view. By trying to be honorable and change how people perceive him, he is trying to change what his legacy would be after he is gone- after all, even if HE knows the reason, what man would want to be known to history as The Kingslayer? Even in Martin's alternate version of history, you very much get the sense that many people, at least the High Born, view the world through much the same eyes our own ancestors would have. Many people of that strata would have viewed their 'eternity' as how men remember them, and if Jaime began to come out of the PTSD shell he had built around himself and see beyond the moment to what would come later, he may have begun to see that he had to change how he carried and presented himself. After all, if he had died instead of being captured, or when being recaptured, what sort of a legacy would he have left? If he was remembered at all, it would have been as nothing more than The Kingslayer, a minor footnote in the history of the Seven Kingdoms. In my view, he began to try and change himself to be what HE saw as an honorable knight- he may be on the 'wrong' side, but he can attempt to mitigate the damage. He could try to do 'right', in his view, while still serving the 'wrong' side, and he had to pick and choose his battles. He couldn't just sweep in and undo what his father had set up, but he COULD try and lessen the harm those actions were causing, where it was within his power. In our own history, there are many instances of men who we still remember for at least TRYING to do the right thing, even when it was difficult to do so- and all of them are flawed men in their own right. I think Jaime is an excellent fictional representation of that struggle and just how difficult it really is- as well as how much it can cost you.

41:06 there was a great video I recently watched abouthow if Joanna was someone Tywin loved, it was likely she wasn’t a sweet paragon of love but instead a cunning, almost shrewd lady that knows what she’s doing and how to continue the line and it’s reputation. Why would Tywin like someone who is lovely and innocent and would cry at his actions rather than one he could talk to and get good ideas from. She was obviously still beautiful but that’s got nothing to do with her as a person.

I also think with twin you can get the outright refusal to separate they depend on each other so much and have such a closeness literally from day one that the idea of doing thing without the other and being individual is unthinkable

Love your content please do video of roose Bolton and ramsay Bolton what love see how two biggest monster and their personality are both similar but difference

I would love to see these videos on some of the characters in Peaky Blinders!!!!

I think one thing we should point out is that Jaime is right: the whole concept of knighthood being a special or honorable thing has always been fraudulent from start to finish. Historically knights start out as basically the armed lackey of the landowner class who could more or less do what they want, not just because they are the ones with the weapons, but also because their boss is literally the state. And then they became their own class of nobility that was basically a specialized arm of the military. That‘s what knights were irl. In-universe George R R Martin never spells this out fully because the story is told by people who overwhelmingly don‘t see it that way, but it‘s true all the same. And in-universe it should be obvious that people like Arthur Dayne and Gerold Hightower aren‘t really better people than Jaime. After all, they‘re the ones that let Aerys burn all these people to death. I wouldn‘t call them evil since, what the hell were they supposed to do, but they definitely aren‘t better than the one guy who actually broke his oath when it mattered. At the same time, while people like Tywin and Bolton and Aerys are definitely villains, there‘s not really a side in any of this that‘s fundamentally better or more humane. At the end of the day, most of the atrocities are not abberations but actually the norm in this kind of society*. And it was definitely the worst when they were fighting. *by the way, I don‘t want to condemn feudalism any more than I want to glorify it. The society that preceded it was even worse and the treatment of the peasant class actually got worse toward the end of feudalism and well into the period that followed. But we should have no illusions about this social order or the people at the top of it, no matter whether their names were Lancaster, Stark, Wittelsbach or Targaryen.

I think Aemond will do the same and embrace being called Kinslayer in season 2 after what happened with Luce even though he didn’t intend on hurting him

If there ever was an alternative scenario i would love to read, it would be one in which Jaime was forced to take the black. I think he would be resentful at first, but then start to enjoy his duties as a ranger, become at home with his new brothers who care little or less for his family name. And when the others start rising, him lending his voice to the plea to the iron throne would make a difference... At the same time: Tywin would be forced to turn to tyrion as heir. And cersei would not give birth to 3 bastards..

Funnily enough, I think Ned and Jaime are more similar than they would ever admit. Ned wouldn't hesitate to drop his honor to protect his family or innocent children. I think he would have killed Areys for commanding that the city be burned, probably in the exact same way. Ned's resentment for Jaime is misplaced and maybe some of it is due to him being a Lannister.

He was the only one.... ...who did not treat me like a monster.... I love you brother. Now and always.

I have almost no knowledge on mental health and what the cause and effect of these things might be but I feel like maybe Jamie never knows what he wants as an adult because he’s never been allowed to do what he wants his whole life. The only thing I can think of that he’s explicitly stated he wants is to be with Cersei but he can’t do that either so maybe whenever he tries to think of what he wants he just rules out anything he’d actually want because he figures that he can’t have it. Just my thoughts though, great video by the way.