💥 PSYCHOPATH Body Language - Erin Caffey True Crime Casefile ft. Dr Phil

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The Behavior Panel

The Behavior Panel

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What is the body language of a psychopath? Erin Caffey is convicted of the capital homicide of her mother and two brothers. What do four of the world's top experts on human behavior and body language make of her Erin Caffey interview with Dr Phil? ⭐JOIN OUR BODY LANGUAGE MASTERCLASS: thebehaviorpanel.com/
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A teenage girl charged with capital homicide for her role in the demise of her mother and two young brothers agreed to a plea deal that could make her eligible for parole when she's 59, her attorney said. Erin Caffey, 17, accepted the agreement, said defense attorney William McDowell. She had been scheduled to be tried as an adult next month in Hopkins County. Authorities said Caffey, her boyfriend and two other co-defendants plotted against Caffey's parents because they didn't approve of her boyfriend. Caffey was 16 at the time of the crime. Police reports said she and Bobbi Gale Johnson waited in a car down the road from Caffey's home in Alba while boyfriend Charlie James Wilkinson, 19, and Charles Allen Waid, 20, went on a shooting and stabbing rampage before setting fire to the house. Penny Caffey, 37, and her sons Mathew, 13, and Tyler, 8, died in the attack in March. Terry Caffey, 41, was shot five times but escaped from the burning house, saying he recognized Wilkinson shooting him and his wife in their bed, sheriff's officials said. Caffey has since recovered from his gunshot wounds. All four defendants were initially charged with three counts of capital homicide. Prosecutors had said they didn't plan to seek the highest penalty against Erin Caffey. Wilkinson and Waid also avoided the highest penalty in November by pleading guilty for their involvement. McDowell said both would likely receive life sentences with parole.
The Behavior Panel comprises the world's top body language and behavior experts: Scott Rouse, Mark Bowden, Chase Hughes, and Greg Hartley. They analyze behavior and body language in videos of public interest. This non-partisan group aims to educate and entertain, focusing on nonverbal communication, deception detection, behavioral analysis, statement analysis, interrogation, and resistance to interrogation. Through careful examination of gestures, expressions, linguistics, and cultural context, they reveal truths and deceptions. The Behavior Panel is prominently featured on The Dr. Phil Show and has its own show on the US TV Network, Merit Street Media.
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Greg Hartley: BodyLanguageTactics.com
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Chapters:
0:00 Erin Caffey Body Language
06:46 Girl's Psychopathic Traits Analysis
13:42 Woman's Disturbing Ex-Partner Behavior
20:43 Events Structure and Psychopathy
27:50 Rarity of Family Killings
34:32 Woman Accused of Planning Parents' Murder
41:12 Effective Communication Tactics
48:10 Power by Proxy Discussion
56:19 Woman Confronted About Lying
1:03:55 Analyzing Woman's Concerns
1:10:53 Failure to Accept Responsibility Discussion
1:18:08 Lack of Cognitive Empathy
1:25:40 Unusual Behavior and Facial Expressions
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@kaitlinfuller8636
@kaitlinfuller8636 Жыл бұрын
WHOS HERE FROM TICTOK? FROM THE LADIES VIDEO WHEN SHE WORKED IN THE TEXAS JAIL? NO WONDER SHE HAD PANIC ATTACTS
@shailynnlamb4013
@shailynnlamb4013 Жыл бұрын
YESS
@joannalodermeier8668
@joannalodermeier8668 Жыл бұрын
yep!!
@chalzochizzler
@chalzochizzler Жыл бұрын
Yes omg. And ppl talking about the wavering.
@amandarazak6120
@amandarazak6120 Жыл бұрын
Yep
@tracigreene-farmer8598
@tracigreene-farmer8598 Жыл бұрын
Yes
@Lilyys
@Lilyys Жыл бұрын
Came from the women's tiktok where she thought she's just a timid girl who can't do this. Her story gave me chills 🥲
@neonsvampen1
@neonsvampen1 Жыл бұрын
Me too
@jillnerby6063
@jillnerby6063 Жыл бұрын
Same
@andrealuna6975
@andrealuna6975 Жыл бұрын
Yup, same here
@kellydaylan851
@kellydaylan851 Жыл бұрын
Same reason I came here to watch this, saw that lady's video too on tictok.
@marymbatia6744
@marymbatia6744 Жыл бұрын
Me too here
@judithnelson1228
@judithnelson1228 8 ай бұрын
The bit that surprises me, is not that there is one behaviourally disordered girl going to a local school but the fact that she is able to find three more, willing to join in, is REALLY disturbing.
@cassiesalter5442
@cassiesalter5442 3 ай бұрын
Think of Charles Manson. It can be easier than you'd think to have people do your dirty work. There was also a case of 3 young girls who killed another girl. One was essentially the "ring leader".
@audreydaleski1067
@audreydaleski1067 2 ай бұрын
Sex.
@user-ry6sg3hy8f
@user-ry6sg3hy8f Ай бұрын
Granny as she is known got three others to help her kill her daughter in law over child custody.
@HAHA-rm3ii
@HAHA-rm3ii Ай бұрын
Can a person be born psychopath, is that possible?
@pamelajordan2890
@pamelajordan2890 22 күн бұрын
@@HAHA-rm3iiI believe they are definitely born that way. I don’t know why but some are born without empathy. Soulless
@dedrasteele8583
@dedrasteele8583 9 ай бұрын
Respectfully, as a southern female, I would point out that “yes sir.“ Is not always a tell. For some southern people, especially women. It is an automatic thing
@AxeltheGSD
@AxeltheGSD 3 жыл бұрын
“Her blink rate is ‘yesterday’.” -GH
@Jen-U
@Jen-U 3 жыл бұрын
So many fantastic catchphrases/dance moves to enjoy….. 😀
@eileenking9987
@eileenking9987 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah brilliant 😉. “shes a dang monster !” ,,,Scott
@hannavuorio83
@hannavuorio83 3 жыл бұрын
This video was sooo good!!! Funny and educating 🤣🤣🤣
@thefasttomato
@thefasttomato 2 жыл бұрын
Quote of the recording
@cooljerk4362
@cooljerk4362 2 жыл бұрын
LOLLL
@denisejustdenise
@denisejustdenise 3 жыл бұрын
Not through watching, but the father was shot many times, (I think 11 times, even though that sounds absurd), fled the burning house, SWAM A CREEK and made it to the neighbor's house and was awake to tell name the shooter. That man is an incredible hero.
@tsully4368
@tsully4368 3 жыл бұрын
Terry Caffey (father) was shot 5 times.
@rablanchard981
@rablanchard981 3 жыл бұрын
I still wonder how he knew his boys were dead. I saw him in another interview where he said the neighbor asked about his family. He said that he told the neighbor they were all dead. It's the only other interview I've seen. I guess it's possible he's said before that he checked. Or with the fire he assumed. Sad case anyway. Scary girl. I can just imagine her in jail. Yikes.
@denisejustdenise
@denisejustdenise 3 жыл бұрын
@@rablanchard981 He knew because the house was on fire and he heard the shots. I don't know but he knew. Yeah, scary. It seemed like she wasn't even thinking in terms of life insurance she was just murderous.
@eleanorrigby9556
@eleanorrigby9556 3 жыл бұрын
It's just really sad that he still believes his daughter.
@jogrant3851
@jogrant3851 2 жыл бұрын
@@rablanchard981 He was there.
@hollyray5573
@hollyray5573 Жыл бұрын
I love listening to this. Nobody interrupts. Everyone listens intently so the viewer can hear a complete thought. You can even tell when another person has something to say but they wait and listen. It’s how all humans should listen and respond.
@juju4842
@juju4842 Жыл бұрын
Communication like that would probably stop most arguments, fights, divorce, and wars. Of course I'm sure they're on their best behavior when filming!
@RockCityCookies
@RockCityCookies Жыл бұрын
I totally agree. They totally respect each other and it’s so refreshing to see.
@gracenote1837
@gracenote1837 Жыл бұрын
I grew up in a violent alcoholic abusive home but not once did I ever have a conversation with anyone about killing them. I considered killing myself but not them. She is definitely not normal.
@oceangirl2661
@oceangirl2661 Жыл бұрын
Yes usually these teenagers raised in that type of environment end up turning their violence on themselves.
@saronnnn22
@saronnnn22 Жыл бұрын
Same I had a horrible childhood with my mother but I ran away and thought about ending my own life never her let alone my whole family
@nikki7962
@nikki7962 Жыл бұрын
Same here, terrible beating so often my high school counselor bought me a bus ticket out of state before they could kill me, I never thought about hurting either of them.
@ursinha115
@ursinha115 3 жыл бұрын
When I am in an argument and cry, I absolutely hate it, because people think it's because I'm afraid or sad, when in reality I'm so, so mad that I need to vent it, and it comes out as tears... When I heard Greg saying women cry when frustrated, I just about blew a kiss to him!!! 😁
@kemeee5407
@kemeee5407 3 жыл бұрын
Amen to that!!
@artcreationsbydar
@artcreationsbydar 2 жыл бұрын
Omg! That is so me as well! And when I start to cry, it makes me even more frustrated! And then I cry more!!!!! Just so annoying! Lol
@ursinha115
@ursinha115 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly!!! LOL
@onewomanandherdog5219
@onewomanandherdog5219 2 жыл бұрын
Same here, frustration or injustice.
@Nyquil5
@Nyquil5 2 жыл бұрын
I looked at hubby and said, "See?"
@machagreen7397
@machagreen7397 3 жыл бұрын
I love Greg's comment, "Her blink rate was yesterday." All of you had such great input! Erin Caffey is scary! In fact, it's scary to think that people like her and Chris Watts roam among us.
@TheKatell52
@TheKatell52 2 жыл бұрын
I think many are in public office.
@menashearer253
@menashearer253 2 жыл бұрын
She also seemed to be a simple person.
@lavonnehensley9993
@lavonnehensley9993 2 жыл бұрын
It's great they are now locked up!
@demaupin
@demaupin 2 жыл бұрын
I've noticed a couple of people lately in political interviews who just don't blink, except as an extremely occasional punctuation mark, the same way she does. It's deeply unsettling. Does it generally indicate psychopathy, or are are there also some types of training (intel orgs or such) to control that in order to try to not "give themselves away," or medications that block the reflex, etc?
@annette2892
@annette2892 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheKatell52 I think that you are correct. ✌
@AAAMANDA
@AAAMANDA Жыл бұрын
Most people know but incase you don’t, there is a woman on TikTok who recently went viral after posting a video about meeting Erin Caffey. The woman volunteered at the prison as a mentor-type figure for the inmates. Erin was new to the prison at the time and the woman was assigned to meet with her. She did not know what crime Erin had committed (she never looked up the crimes of the inmates she mentored). Erin seemed quiet, sweet, and in no way came off like a violent person. Erin started talking about her version of what happened that night and convinced the woman she was a victim. She whole-heartedly believed Erin was innocent and wrongfully convicted…until Erin gave her one single look. The woman describes it as “looking into the face of Evil”. 45:14 is the look I imagine she was talking about. She said she felt as though something evil followed her out of the prison that day that still haunts her today.
@amandarhoads4640
@amandarhoads4640 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! The TikTok is no longer available. I appreciate your explanation!
@nunyabeeswax7937
@nunyabeeswax7937 Жыл бұрын
I watched that video yesterday and as Scott explains it is slow synapses, not a demon 🤣🤣
@Jimmyboygohome
@Jimmyboygohome Жыл бұрын
Good time stamp
@normabates007
@normabates007 Жыл бұрын
I saw it on Facebook today, that's why I ended up here lol
@francoherrera1265
@francoherrera1265 Жыл бұрын
@@amandarhoads4640 I just watched today
@fionawilsoncreates
@fionawilsoncreates Жыл бұрын
For the record: Her previous boyfriend reports that she asked him if he would kill her parents. She's colder than ice.
@PHANTOMLIMBRECORDS
@PHANTOMLIMBRECORDS 3 жыл бұрын
I'm here for Mark's hand gestures!
@MrsDannunzio
@MrsDannunzio 3 жыл бұрын
Mark is awesome! such a great communicator.
@Paradise-on-Earth
@Paradise-on-Earth 3 жыл бұрын
:D He REALLY adds to the entertainment!! And I love it
@ursa8400
@ursa8400 3 жыл бұрын
Hey-ulp hey-ulp!
@inTruthbyGrace
@inTruthbyGrace 3 жыл бұрын
i like him the best out of the 4
@Rescuemom3
@Rescuemom3 3 жыл бұрын
@@inTruthbyGrace I can't pick a favorite. They are all amazing.
@joceelee
@joceelee 3 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure I’d rather have Chucky as a cell mate than this girl.
@cpea587
@cpea587 3 жыл бұрын
lol!
@dukeanddauphindonald8849
@dukeanddauphindonald8849 3 жыл бұрын
😁
@annfellows9403
@annfellows9403 2 жыл бұрын
No contest!
@kathyhooker4968
@kathyhooker4968 2 жыл бұрын
@@joceelee bwahahahaha
@clancaster9410
@clancaster9410 Жыл бұрын
Her smirk at the end says it ALL following "you was tired of the bickering and wanted them dead"
@andyaustinfnp-c5286
@andyaustinfnp-c5286 3 жыл бұрын
That look reminded me of the quote from Jaws- Quint: The thing about a shark, it's got lifeless eyes, black eyes, like a doll's eyes. When it comes at you it doesn't seem to be livin'...
@elenagagarina7662
@elenagagarina7662 3 жыл бұрын
Actually, it is how J. K. Rowling describes a murderer in one of her detectives.
@ruthmitchell3011
@ruthmitchell3011 2 жыл бұрын
the guy from 'the Jinx' series who murdered a few (Netflix) was described as having eyes like a shark...shudder
@janebrown3587
@janebrown3587 2 жыл бұрын
@Andy Austin FNP-C Excellent memory and comparison! It's a perfect description of her. (that movie is one of my all-time favorites for characters)
@sputnik1941
@sputnik1941 2 жыл бұрын
Sharks have got a little more life in their eyes .
@crgutman
@crgutman 2 жыл бұрын
I would be interested in seeing your assessment of someone who was initially found guilty, and later unequivocally exonerated. How did people end up believing that an innocent person was guilty?
@reachingtheotherside6503
@reachingtheotherside6503 2 жыл бұрын
Normally cops that couldn’t be bothered doing there job properly or people that had motive but didn’t kill them but also had no alibi to
@ramblinrose8
@ramblinrose8 Жыл бұрын
there is a long history of innocent people confessing to murders they didn't commit and yet were incarcerated for...which segues into your comment...I too would love to see their assessment of some of those folks as well...
@katielee3119
@katielee3119 Жыл бұрын
Behavioral arts has a video on it and another with chase about false confession
@crazyduck1254
@crazyduck1254 Жыл бұрын
C.G you’ve posed a very interesting question. My neighbour for instance speaks to his children (aged 8-10) like dogs, where are you effing going with that, get out of the effing pool, one day i heard his wife say to the young boy “I cant believe you just effing spoke to your sister like that) The man hit his head on the eaves one day and you’d think he got hit by a meteor for goodness sake, the loud yelling, cursing, swearing, and i have found myself wondering if this is the man we never suspected could take the life of a family member. he strikes me as underlying “insane” Just how many people are borderline psychopathic, every day ordinary people. We are just about all powder kegs waiting to be lit.
@Independence62
@Independence62 Жыл бұрын
Usually, evidence convicts most people. Unfortunately the true rule is guilty until proven innocent and one or two pieces of evidence is enough to convince most people.
@dearbh1736
@dearbh1736 10 ай бұрын
I am stuck at home because I recently dislocated and fractured my shoulder so I have been binge watching older videos from The Behavior Panel and it is proving to be wonderful, not least of all because each one delivers a true burst of laughter moment which I welcome so much right now. That little bit of humour in the midst of these tragic stories is much needed. Scott really cracked me up with the roller coaster story at the end 🤣🤣🤣
@ameliashostak4764
@ameliashostak4764 10 ай бұрын
I hope you have a speedy recovery! I JUST found these guys, and NOTHING'S getting done around the house now LOL. I died at "the guy gave me a bouchy"
@jaybanks1947
@jaybanks1947 8 ай бұрын
Me too. I broke 5 vertebrae and my ankle so I’ve been binge watching too. Cheers to a speedy recovery for both of us
@kellydaylan851
@kellydaylan851 Жыл бұрын
I'm no body behavior expert, but her lack of emotion of her parents death is a dead giveaway. Both my parents died of natural causes years ago and I still miss them. My mind can't grasp this.
@Ashfcknley.
@Ashfcknley. Жыл бұрын
From What I Read Her Parents Were Very Strict And Kept Her Away From The Outside World They Homeschooled Her She Wasnt Allowed To Have Friends Or Hangout…. There May Be Lack Of Emotions Because She May Be Glad She Doesnt Have To Deal With That Toxic And Overly Controlling Parenting Her Parents Did. They Held Her As A Damn Prisoner She’s Wrong For Doing What She Did But I Understand … Also You Cant Grasp Because Your Parents Probably Wasnt Like Her’s Thank God.
@denisemand4391
@denisemand4391 Жыл бұрын
@@Ashfcknley. Her father survived and visits her frequently. Oddly enough, they seem to have become closer. Of course, he is in complete denial that she actually had anything to do with it, but on some level, I think he must know. And, she didn't just try to have her parents killed, she also is responsible for the murders of her brothers. Two innocent little boys and she had no problem at all saying go ahead and kill them too. That's a straight-up psychopath!
@sharonthompson672
@sharonthompson672 Жыл бұрын
​@@Ashfcknley. Yeah, I don't know why home schooling has become so popular (probably mass shootings, I guess, seems reasonable) but I'd never. The kids don't learn to socialize properly, imo. You can always tell the home schooled vs public vs private school kids at a park & such. 😆 Helicopter parents etc.
@susanburchett3207
@susanburchett3207 3 жыл бұрын
So basically, psychopaths know the LYRICS, but they can't hum the TUNE. The right words are there, but their timing, rhythm and pitch are off. They can't hear if they're flat or sharp - they're tone deaf. You can't correct what you can't HEAR. Not only do all the musical elements have to be there- they have to be perfectly in sync for the song to be coherent and moving. Psychopaths can memorize the words, but they can't get the nonverbal quite right- and even if they could, they can't sync all of it up.
@leep0710
@leep0710 3 жыл бұрын
absolutely amazing explanation! Makes it clear to understand
@Germania72
@Germania72 3 жыл бұрын
I love your analogy!
@pimlico3225
@pimlico3225 3 жыл бұрын
what about psychopaths that study music/play an instrument, figuratively speaking?
@Yamthief
@Yamthief 3 жыл бұрын
@@pimlico3225 Susan's analogy here is great. To answer your question based on this analogy: Erin Caffey thinks she is doing just that; she's acting in a manner that she thinks is normal, and in any usual conversation with a friend or neighbour it might pass as normal, but she's discussing the murder of her family and she fails to realise that this is in no way a normal situation or conversation to be having, and doesn't know that the "tricks" she's used all her life to get by in social situations won't work for this. She probably doesn't even realise she's looking or acting abnormally for the situation. Zero empathy. Going back to Susan's analogy: Erin's turned up to a death metal concert with a harmonica and trumpet and some sheet music from the 1920s.
@piaxgft5799
@piaxgft5799 3 жыл бұрын
Such a clever analogy... :)
@nizdolls
@nizdolls 3 жыл бұрын
Did anyone else find it really weird that the metaphor she used was that she might have 'put a little fuel on the fire'... Considering they burnt the house down after?!
@Smaugette
@Smaugette 3 жыл бұрын
😳 oh dear.
@sharonthompson672
@sharonthompson672 Жыл бұрын
Freudian slip for sure 👍
@jaybanks1947
@jaybanks1947 8 ай бұрын
I’m trying to think back to when I was a teenager. As far as I know, I never wanted to kill my family and my mother and I fought a lot. Never in my wildest imagination would I have thought murder was the solution.
@eugenetswong
@eugenetswong Ай бұрын
I think that most kids have had a mild desire to have their parents killed, because some parents are genuinely evil, and because some kids have no perspective. There was a cliche about wanting their dads to get hit by a truck. Imagine that desire being so common across history...now add the lack of discipline across the Millenial and Gen Z generations.
@Whoamidontknow17707
@Whoamidontknow17707 Жыл бұрын
I find it very interesting that she specifics says “I probably added fuel to the fire”…. Because she set the house on fire after killing her family. An unconscious admission disguised as a metaphor.
@rablanchard981
@rablanchard981 3 жыл бұрын
I bet she literally added fuel to the fire, and couldn't resist smiling at the slip in word choice.
@brainmolko
@brainmolko 3 жыл бұрын
I caught that one too!
@sixxygrrl
@sixxygrrl 3 жыл бұрын
I bet she did.
@loup3
@loup3 3 жыл бұрын
Good point.
@spiceshewrites
@spiceshewrites 3 жыл бұрын
OMG! This is gold!
@jonio214
@jonio214 2 жыл бұрын
I missed that one! Brilliant. is that an "embedded confession"?
@hummingbird_chirps8520
@hummingbird_chirps8520 3 жыл бұрын
Her eyes became larger & black... like no soul existed... when Dr. Phil asked her "did you do it!?... in the last clip... creepy! That smile she tried to hide... after she paused in thought about Dr. Phil's question..."you wanted them dead, didn't you"... again...spine chilling! Great video, awesome job Behavioral Panel!🦋
@luizathir13en
@luizathir13en 3 жыл бұрын
there's even a term for it: the "psychopath stare"
@cradames
@cradames Жыл бұрын
Erin's father needs to watch this. I feel so much empathy for him. He's in total denial of what his daughter truly is. It's heartbreaking 💔
@micheleerwin2848
@micheleerwin2848 9 ай бұрын
As the mother of 4 kids, I cannot fathom one of my children having been involved in the murder of my spouse and other kids. Im certain her father does not want to believe his daughter was behind the death of his family . It would be too painful to come to terms with.
@anovemberstar
@anovemberstar 3 жыл бұрын
so basically, she is focusing SO hard on appearing 'normal', by her tone, her words, that she's completely forgotten that this is not the context to act 'normally'.
@peterwelsh1932
@peterwelsh1932 2 жыл бұрын
It’s not exactly forgetting. I had a rather violent childhood, mixed with some severe times of scarcity. But luckily (?) I always had the highest IQ and aptitude test scores. So, I was able to earn an education. So one day in high school, the psychiatrist social worker explained to me that I flattened affect (from what they call childhood PTSD.I don’t feel sorry for myself, it’s just what they call it). And this naturally makes some people uneasy. So: I guess some survivors of abuse are similar to sociopaths in that, they don’t pick up all the traits from The Herd that others do. One weird example: I kind of taught myself to say “ow” if I bumped into something, or someone hit me. Even though my tolerance for pain was through the roof. People would freak out that I didn’t have the right reactions to pain, so I slowly, over years, learned to mimic them. So, for someone this young, her personality could be a house of cards on a windy beach…. For starters: one of everyone’s main personalities is the one you use with your parents. That’s probably the most important one😹 I do wanna put it out there that not all of us “sociopaths”? Or maybe just “people with flattened affect “ are evil narcissists. I’ve always believed in The Sermon on the Mound, Never lie, never steal, defend the week, care for the elderly… But if I have ANYtHiNG in common with that girl: she’s probably so busy analyzing his communications, in ways that are totally irrelevant to what he is saying, that she doesn’t have time to “act right”. Normal people develop a Short-Hand type of communication, and things just flow, Largely non-verbally. Crazy people over analyze (or ignore) every word like it’s a new language they are hearing. People bond with me, almost uncomfortably fast in person. (Forgot to mention: I’m overly empathic, so that’s what separates people like me from psychopaths). But I constantly lose friends in texts , posts and comments sections. The same jokes that get me invited to every dinner party, they get me blocked and banned online🎭. Something doesn’t translate. The harder I push the worse it gets. It’s amazing that this girl can talk about her parents so freely. I think a normal person would crack a little, somehow, every time they said the word “parents”. I always hated my parents. I always prayed for God to either kill me or them. But I think I’d still look upset talking about there gruesome murders. If not upset that they were gone, specifically, you’ve gotta have some strong emotions about unresolved anger, the knowLedge that there will never be closure, and just the meaningless tragedy of life
@picnic66
@picnic66 2 жыл бұрын
Hi @@peterwelsh1932 At the risk of sounding trite it's worth mentioning that all of us are "abnormal" to some degree or another, just some of us just have the mixed blessing of knowing how. That leaves us at risk of fixating on negatives and being unkind when judging ourself but also typically results in us being far more tolerant of other people's "flaws". I mention that because while I'm at peace with the ignorant confusing 'people with flattened affect' as "sociopathic" (and narcissistic people as "evil",) it breaks my heart to think you might still see yourself in that light, or imagine others should, especially if you're overly empathic (as many of us who suffered repeated childhood traumas are). Unless you're unable to express your empathy in a healthy way that element of your personality will always shine through, regardless of how "flattened" your affect is, and people worth associating with will always respond positively to that. As to your issues online, one trick that should help there is to form a habit of writing drafts, as often times we see what others might react negatively to only after reviewing what we've written (some time afterward [edit: like now...]), not while we're actually writing it. It takes far more practice than many realise to translate our inner thoughts, on the fly, into writing that others find palatable. Again, there's no value in beating yourself up when you get it wrong (which is what "pushing harder" comes across as to me), or in thinking "something doesn't translate" means you can't find a way to change that. As any sociopath can tell you my friend, there's more than one way to skin a cat... ;)
@daljordan8921
@daljordan8921 3 жыл бұрын
Does anybody else check frequently for a new episode even though you know it's not time for one? I'm like a kid waiting for Christmas in October.
@artcreationsbydar
@artcreationsbydar 2 жыл бұрын
Lol Always!
@dukeanddauphindonald8849
@dukeanddauphindonald8849 2 жыл бұрын
😁
@kathyhooker4968
@kathyhooker4968 2 жыл бұрын
I thought this was fairly new wasn't it?
@steveszerodawnforbiddenwes361
@steveszerodawnforbiddenwes361 Жыл бұрын
There is little or no change in her body position throughout this entire interview. No tears. No rising shoulders. Little or no side glances - she is so emotionally vacant it’s unreal. Dr. Phil confronts her about the death of her two brothers and there isn’t even a sign of discomfort. Scary, really scary…
@steveszerodawnforbiddenwes361
@steveszerodawnforbiddenwes361 Жыл бұрын
Look at her body position at the beginning and end compared to say Stephanie Lazarus. Zero ‘turtleing’
@steveszerodawnforbiddenwes361
@steveszerodawnforbiddenwes361 Жыл бұрын
She looks like someone who was brought up under extremely authoritarian parenting. It breeds dishonesty.
@heathersvanity8648
@heathersvanity8648 Жыл бұрын
​@@steveszerodawnforbiddenwes361 Absolutely. I can relate. I had to work hard to overcome the push to always lie to protect myself.
@MultiMyrie
@MultiMyrie Жыл бұрын
The moment Dr Phil says ‘…you emphatically insisted that your family be killed…’ that moment she shakes her head, then looks up, was my first sign that she’s psycho! Scary, chilling stuff
@dieselbaits
@dieselbaits 3 жыл бұрын
Im active duty army, and I teach insider threat to deploying soldiers. It's all about the domains of threat detection and behavior. I just recently found your videos. Fantastic stuff. Ive found a few things I can use in the class. Keep up the great work.
@logresmentotum7065
@logresmentotum7065 3 жыл бұрын
Keep it up!
@megroux
@megroux 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your service❤️🤍💙
@JakeR541
@JakeR541 3 жыл бұрын
@@megroux seconded
@leonardsmith82
@leonardsmith82 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your service sir 🙏
@lindahaggard6416
@lindahaggard6416 3 жыл бұрын
Also, I would like to thank you for your service ~ an American Grandmother💜💜
@songbird1307
@songbird1307 3 жыл бұрын
I just wanted to say another big "Thank you, Gentlemen" for starting this channel. It is obvious you guys are world class experts and I am sure have very busy schedules. Everytime that I watch your videos I feel so lucky to get some insight into your world of reading body language. I'm always amazed at how each of you read the subjects so quickly and with such thoroughness because I usually only catch a few, if any, of the body language cues that you do. Thank you for taking the time to teach us who are interested in reading and understanding other people beyond just words. 😊
@mabrams12
@mabrams12 3 жыл бұрын
Well said, Songbird. You guys are doing a great public service.
@songbird1307
@songbird1307 3 жыл бұрын
@@mabrams12 Thanks ~ 😊
@moiracistola1112
@moiracistola1112 2 жыл бұрын
Perfectly articulated how I feel as well... thank you.
@andreshernandez-xp2rl
@andreshernandez-xp2rl 2 жыл бұрын
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@alicemontaclairf9479
@alicemontaclairf9479 2 жыл бұрын
Begaudeau caligula
@andrewchochola7584
@andrewchochola7584 6 ай бұрын
At the advice of a friend who, like me, has autism, I have been studying body language by watching youtube videos like these and others as well. Your videos have been an asset to my learning as I want to build a social life by socialising with other people. Learning body language will be an asset to that effect as I need to recognise cues as to when someone is interested or not interested, comfortable or uncomfortable, whether they want to socialise or be left alone and so on. I am therefore honoured to be a part of the panellists among your subscribers. Thank you for your work and thank you for having me.
@adelinewurzer4533
@adelinewurzer4533 Жыл бұрын
Came from a woman's tiktok where she was talking about working with and meeting Erin in prison. Wow am I glad I did! This is so interesting. I have a new thing to watch while nursing my son to sleep in the recliner every night. Thanks, guys!
@MindiB
@MindiB 2 жыл бұрын
I am not a fan of Dr. Phil’s talk show-I think it does a disservice to real therapy and can do harm to the genuinely troubled people it involves. BUT, seeing the panelists highlight his interviewing techniques does give me a new appreciation for his skills. The entertainment/live audience format (IMO) encourages questionably “therapeutic” (and sometimes questionably ethical) interventions. This sort of work seems a more valuable use of his expertise.
@vivio2852
@vivio2852 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with you.
@annangela3998
@annangela3998 2 жыл бұрын
I see your point.
@ellie.v9765
@ellie.v9765 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@VintageRose75
@VintageRose75 2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree!!! I think he should do much more of these interviews with killers in prison, than all the family drama episodes. The forensic psychology and his interviewing techniques are more well-suited here. I would watch almost every day, if he switched to only this.
@notsorry3631
@notsorry3631 2 жыл бұрын
But Dr Phil does not claim to be doing therapy on his show. It's a talk show people go onto willingly. But he does offer to refer people to therapy. Don't believe the rumors, he IS a real doctor, he just isn't a psychiatrist. He is highly educated and skilled and trained. He has endless connections and resources that he worked hard to aquire. But he's also an entertainer. There's only so much he can do, especially in the small time frame of an episode. I'm sure there's a lot they can't show, that has to be cut. There are things I don't like about Phil, but I find him very impressive. He always surprises me with his skills and knowledge.
@mariedowney1676
@mariedowney1676 3 жыл бұрын
The Behavior Panel is waaay too addicting
@janemarlow
@janemarlow 3 жыл бұрын
I think so too!!!!!
@tam44770
@tam44770 3 жыл бұрын
Same here
@mabrams12
@mabrams12 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite channel. Before I found this, I watched interesting body language videos from other sources but those presenters have no qualifications/training. If they did, they would said so. I understand now that you can't become a body language expert just by reading about it. I remember one video by a guy who absolutely slammed the McCanns. He thought both parents were guilty and commented on how cold the dad was. When the Behavior Panel analayzed the McCanns, they didn't find signs of deception. I thought it was so interesting that one of them commented that Gerry McCann is a heart surgeon (discussing his baseline). He's not cold--he had spent years having to talk about health emergencies and deaths with patients in a calm, professional manner.
@thesincitymama
@thesincitymama 2 жыл бұрын
I love this show. I pause my life for this
@Greatbiggrandma
@Greatbiggrandma 2 жыл бұрын
Gosh yes!!
@nancydashiell1429
@nancydashiell1429 2 ай бұрын
I need these guys when I go on a date.
@ashleightatarcyk2126
@ashleightatarcyk2126 Жыл бұрын
This is so fascinating. Its such conflicting to view her because she does have that quiet, timid sweet thing going on that its hard to catch all the things being mentioned, or see it super clearly. I just saw a tik tok of a woman who worked with her in prison and at first she bought into the whole innocent thing, and even wanted to advocate for her. By the end of the season Erin looked up and stared at her and she described it as "chilling, like I was in the room with a predator". Is that chilling feelings a true sign?? Great video. Only suggestion would be would be bring back up the freeze frame of what someone's talking about, for a moment to jog memory. Its 4 people, extensively talking and as a viewer you go "wait what thing?" and want to see it.
@jordanhelaine
@jordanhelaine Жыл бұрын
i saw the same video!!
@kimeazizzari
@kimeazizzari Жыл бұрын
@@jordanhelaine Guess a lot of us are here because of that Tiktok 😂
@carlabarboza9089
@carlabarboza9089 Жыл бұрын
😊here from TikTok
@YourMirandaRights973
@YourMirandaRights973 Жыл бұрын
Here because of TikTok as well. They didn’t live to far from me and we’re around the same age. Kinda freaked me out 😅
@heathersvanity8648
@heathersvanity8648 Жыл бұрын
Same. Also, great suggestion about the freezer frame to jog the memory while discussing her behavior
@tuppybash625
@tuppybash625 3 жыл бұрын
Please. Keep doing what you do exactly as you do it. Don't follow a fad ever. Those of us who are learning aren't into fads. Chew your gum, pull out that DSM5 and give it to us as you see it. Mark keep giving us the human emotion angle. You guys are a perfect fit.
@Independence62
@Independence62 Жыл бұрын
Greg, Chase, and Mark see the cues, and Scott's skill is diagnostic. Super brilliant, all 4 guys.
@noloosmond6688
@noloosmond6688 3 жыл бұрын
I got Mark's "truth and lies" today and i was disappointed that it isnt narrated by him cause man, that would've been a heavenly listen! Can you imagine Mark reading a whole book in his voice and accent? 🤩🤩
@anniespringate2401
@anniespringate2401 3 жыл бұрын
Thought the same thing when I got the book!
@2peek
@2peek 2 жыл бұрын
Ditto!! I really wish he would record his book.
@tigerlily8117
@tigerlily8117 Жыл бұрын
My ex husband had that same intense stare whenever he talked to anyone he saw as a threat. No blinking; giant pupils that made his eyes look black. I always called it "shark eyes" because he would look at me like that before he suddenly hit me or broke something within his reach. He also would put his hands in his front hoodie pocket the whole time he stared at someone that way while they talked and I always wondered why he did that. Now I know what I suspected when I left him. He's a psychopath.
@olgatrilogymartin3143
@olgatrilogymartin3143 Жыл бұрын
These people make you sick heartless souls
@dr.laurawil402
@dr.laurawil402 Жыл бұрын
@@olgatrilogymartin3143 Try to remember it's physiological. They can't help it. So they need to be contained.
@scarletamazon3455
@scarletamazon3455 Жыл бұрын
I love Scott's stories, like the one at the end! I'd happily watch videos of the guys telling stories to each other and seeing their reactions to each other, the way you all get along is just as entertaining as the behavioural analysis! I also remember another time where Mark was explaining about why we're extra protective of joints like the elbow/wrist etc, and Chase described how Mark taught him about that concept by explaining it to him in person, then as Chase was considering the merits of the theory, Mark grabbed his elbow, and that Chase's reaction was "visceral"! More stories like these, and when you banter with each other are always very welcome. Thank you so much for all the content and education.
@Pardy_Animalz
@Pardy_Animalz 3 жыл бұрын
When Dr Phil said she wanted her parents dead there was a micro nod.
@ricanhavoc9965
@ricanhavoc9965 2 жыл бұрын
Damn! When she said "I probably added fuel to the fire" I got chills! I think THAT'S what the grin shortly after was all about! She made a "funny" about helping burn the house down and was absolutely giddy with her own wit! Did anyone else interpret that the way I did? 😳
@eloisehooper1801
@eloisehooper1801 2 жыл бұрын
Makes sense. You might be right about that! Maybe sometime I'll watch it over again.
@clarebaxter777
@clarebaxter777 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I saw her smile, she is a very creepy demon, was acting through it all, but a smile escaped. A cold-hearted demon.
@garyluciani1082
@garyluciani1082 15 күн бұрын
The smile at the end just after dr.phil says you wanted this to happen,was the most revealing thing in this whole video to me. My thought was what's she smiling about?
@user-mm2bg7tc2u
@user-mm2bg7tc2u 27 күн бұрын
at 1:22:20 she smirk when Dr Phil said " You wanted them dead" OMG she tried not to smile but I saw the smirk. That is the part that got me. She needs to stay in prison. She still won't be honest about her part in the murder of her family.
@gtogrovestexasoutlaw8700
@gtogrovestexasoutlaw8700 20 күн бұрын
I don’t think that was a smirk. That was remorse. Her mouth turned down. Not up.
@kw3113
@kw3113 3 жыл бұрын
What bugs me is how not one of them walked away and said no to killing. That’s evil.
@Ann-md8pu
@Ann-md8pu 2 жыл бұрын
It's ADOLESCENTS who display this kind of meanness and willingness to be cruel, to hurt, or even to kill. Many adolescents have a lot of behavior that lies on the "cruelty/dangerous/harmful" spectrum. That's why they bully weaker kids, or drop kittens out of the hole in the floorboard of a speeding car, or make good soldiers. It's also why teenagers are bad parents. As the brain matures, it develops more capability for compassion, sympathy, moral clearness.
@TheKatell52
@TheKatell52 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ann-md8pu Even though 3 of the 4 are legal adults. And there are some that want to lower the voting age to 16?? How about raise it back to 21?
@Ano-Nymous
@Ano-Nymous 2 жыл бұрын
@@doublehelix2609 Practise becoming a killer on video games. Sounds legit.
@ileolai
@ileolai 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ann-md8pu this may blow your mind, but lots of adults kill people too
@Ann-md8pu
@Ann-md8pu 2 жыл бұрын
@@ileolai For sure. In fact, even MORE adults than teens kill people, but not just for the sake of simple meanness. Adults kill more often in part because their testosterone levels are higher, and because they have learned that using force and violence is a successful strategy.
@donnatarawneh2014
@donnatarawneh2014 3 жыл бұрын
When the boyfriend said he was going to kill her parents, she said "how?". Greg said he would have said "WHY" I would have said "WHAT?" as in WHAT DID YOU JUST SAY?!!" That statement would have been the end to this story.
@kantwinnada
@kantwinnada 3 жыл бұрын
That was my reaction.
@karlypearl9701
@karlypearl9701 3 жыл бұрын
I know that cracked me up.. But it actually makes sense, coming from an investigator. "Normal" people would say What?! But these guys brains are deeply hard wired to get information. In reality, if someone said that to him , I think he'd actually say "WHAT?! WHY?!" at once. But I don't know
@hannavuorio83
@hannavuorio83 3 жыл бұрын
Well... I would like to know why someone would say that... Because there might be serious threat behind those words.
@greghartley9975
@greghartley9975 3 жыл бұрын
Why to determine Is that a real threat or manner of speaking. What may not get the response. At any rate how are you planning wouldn't enter the conversation.
@donnatarawneh2014
@donnatarawneh2014 3 жыл бұрын
@@greghartley9975 I know! Just unthinkable to most!
@AwesomeMom1234
@AwesomeMom1234 9 ай бұрын
I wish you'd show her actions while you describe them.
@arlenebaker2220
@arlenebaker2220 Жыл бұрын
Greg is dead on (pardon the word usage). I am a 68 year old woman and the #1 reason I cry IS frustration! Bingo!
@katfromthekong414
@katfromthekong414 2 жыл бұрын
What fascinates me is that people like Jodie Arias or the Iceman aren't psychopaths when they come across like they are, while this girl, who comes across like any old self-involved teenager, is a basically a walking example of the dark triad. Psychopathy really is misrpresented in pop culture and we end up looking for all the wrong signs
@helianabanes4875
@helianabanes4875 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. Well said.
@TheBluesman511
@TheBluesman511 Жыл бұрын
Nothing fascinating there but notorius, diabolical and disgusting !
@alexiscollection3423
@alexiscollection3423 2 жыл бұрын
Requesting Robert Wagner or Christopher Walken interviews on Natalie Wood
@ricanhavoc9965
@ricanhavoc9965 2 жыл бұрын
Oooh good one!
@cathrinegamst3184
@cathrinegamst3184 2 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to use normal person analytical techniques on Walken??
@siaeva
@siaeva 2 жыл бұрын
Yes that would be super interesting!
@gregorgeeinterviews
@gregorgeeinterviews 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yes please!!!
@cpcattin
@cpcattin 2 жыл бұрын
I think that shipped sailed years ago. No pun intended.
@micciehedge9253
@micciehedge9253 Жыл бұрын
I spent 3 years in prison. I had women tell me their stories. One went to prison at 16 after killing her grandmother. Her home life wasn't good, so her grandmother took her in. She wanted to go out with her friends one night and her grandmother told her no. She went into the kitchen, grabbed a knife and stabbed her grandmother 17 times. She was sentenced to life in prison. Now, I don't know what makes young people snap like this, but it happens more than anyone ever thinks. How any child could not only have, or attempt to have, their parent/parents murdered is completely beyond my comprehension. In this case, it boggles my mind how she could agree to murder her siblings as well. It hurts my heart to hear these things.
@briseasodinson9424
@briseasodinson9424 Жыл бұрын
I find it wild that no one commented on how she had to restrain herself from nodding at 1:22:13 when he says she wanted them dead. Its like she was going to nod, stopped herself, blinked to reset, then went back to the conversation. It was blatant!
@marjory3855
@marjory3855 Жыл бұрын
Yes it also sounds like she started off saying that it had to happen and then changed it to "it just happened" It's like there was a second part of the plan that didn't get to occur because they were caught
@kymfrancis4612
@kymfrancis4612 3 жыл бұрын
When I was working as a behaviour clinician in a major psychiatric institution I met a woman like this, who was detained for killing her family & the hairs on the back of my neck stood up at certain times in our sessions. This young woman reminds me of my client 👀
@olgatrilogymartin3143
@olgatrilogymartin3143 Жыл бұрын
Sorry you have to put up with people like this it affects you phycic
@jpwhiddon
@jpwhiddon 3 жыл бұрын
I know that Greg has made this point numerous times, but each person brings their own special spin to what they are seeing. I am interesting in everyone's take on the person's behaviors. This is such a good balanced group. I am so glad that I found this channel.
@tuppybash625
@tuppybash625 3 жыл бұрын
Watch the comments. That's a whole different experience.
@whiterose9343
@whiterose9343 3 жыл бұрын
@Janet Whiddon - Yes! I love them all - so interesting.
@ClaudiaGundi
@ClaudiaGundi 3 жыл бұрын
They are a great team 🤍🤍🤍🤍🔥
@TheDistingueOne
@TheDistingueOne Ай бұрын
I watched the interview Piers Morgan did with her which included several scenes with her dad. Her dad is in total denial imo because she is all he has left of the immediate family. Based on some of the things he said during that interview, and the fact he is so blinded by her evil, I would say she has used this psychopathic charade on him numerous times and gotten away with a lot. One might even say she learned to perfect it through practice on him without him even knowing it. It is a hallmark trait of a psychopath, and I feel terrible for her dad because he seems like a genuinely good guy who is just blinded by the unconditional love he has for his child.
@linwei-lee110
@linwei-lee110 Жыл бұрын
Apparently, she tried to talk a previous boyfriend into killing her family. She also talked about killing her family with friends, who didn't take her seriously. Israel Lewis, the criminal therapist who first worked with her, described as the most dangerous person he'd worked with and the best liar. Her father still believes she was a vulnerable girl who came under the control of a psychopathic man.
@TerriResists
@TerriResists 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoy seeing who cracks first when someone talks with their mic off.
@fiona-lyons
@fiona-lyons 3 жыл бұрын
Her previous boyfriend testified that she asked him to kill her parents too. So Charlie wasn't the source of her brand of evil.
@eileenking9987
@eileenking9987 3 жыл бұрын
First plan got foiled two week prior to that night. She used the situation with the boyfriend to manipulate him, her parents welcomed him into their home etc but when they said she was seeing too much of him and wanted her to study she “added fuel to the fire” then too. As you say Evil !
@toniespino293
@toniespino293 4 ай бұрын
Great episode...had to watch it again. The part where she has that restrained smile when Dr. Phil asks about her wanting them killed, is just frightening
@jessicajones641
@jessicajones641 Жыл бұрын
She terrified me. I totally got the micro nod of yes when Phil states “you wanted them dead”. She does a slight nod as if to say yes.
@NajwyzszaKaplanka
@NajwyzszaKaplanka 3 жыл бұрын
I was crying at Mark's nodding when Greg was muted and Chase and Scott trying not to laugh at that. That was so hilarious! 😂 Just brilliant!
@lauriekaryl1
@lauriekaryl1 3 жыл бұрын
When she looks up real slow and creepy, she looks like Norman Bates at the end scene of psycho when he thinks "I wouldn't hurt a fly."
@tengallonhat2741
@tengallonhat2741 3 жыл бұрын
OMG. Perfect analogy!
@audreydaleski1067
@audreydaleski1067 2 ай бұрын
This scares me: she doesnt cry, i miss my mom and brothers.
@Abbyj19
@Abbyj19 Жыл бұрын
I think her eyes welled up because the thought of her boyfriend and friends “ratting” her out, upset her
@leenypower3992
@leenypower3992 2 жыл бұрын
She creeps me out, so young and so cold. Another great analysis…when chase said he had to turn the lights on 😂 and greg I think about her smile being creepy. You’re all awesome, still can believe you do this for us all when you’re all so busy and important, you still make time for us. Means a lot.
@cpcattin
@cpcattin 2 жыл бұрын
Must be cool to get credit for your gift of the marketing of your business. Love your career choice.
@tracieday8661
@tracieday8661 3 жыл бұрын
I needed these guy's to weigh in on every man I've ever dated, lived with or married. I could have saved sooo much time.
@russianaloha4576
@russianaloha4576 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha Same!!
@subconsciouslyaware
@subconsciouslyaware 3 жыл бұрын
Best comment ever!
@tuppybash625
@tuppybash625 3 жыл бұрын
Keep watching. They will help.
@plantitude8042
@plantitude8042 3 жыл бұрын
I could say the same but, as was pointed out to me in the past, I was the common denominator in all those relationships lol
@SomeGuy905
@SomeGuy905 Ай бұрын
I read after the Piers Morgan interview, that the father now understands what she did, and has no relationship with her. He has also moved on with new wife/children.
@madsdee7803
@madsdee7803 Ай бұрын
Good. I hope he doesn't encourage his kids to have anything to do with that either. She wanted them all dead because she could not handle being told no and having parents in her way. She obviously wanted her siblings killed too because they were in the way of any inheritance she'd get. None of them wore a disguise, so she knew what they were doing and she planned it all.
@hrabmv
@hrabmv Ай бұрын
@@madsdee7803 this is all true but let's face it ALL people have traits of what she has: not taking responsibility, mind that never works, going into rage mode when you face them with the truth etc.....they are NOT so much different from her, its only that she has all of the worst stuff, the majority has 2-3 of those....and they are not nice at all....every lie leads to death...one leads immediately like in her case and some kill you over 50 years time
@tonibiava1047
@tonibiava1047 Жыл бұрын
And Greg you are right ( as you probably well know) about people showing shame as looking away or dropping their chins. I was in a group of women who experienced incest. At one point in the therapy, all of us were slumped in our chairs, chins down. Enough to have the therapist remark upon it. And gently told us the shame was not ours. I remember this, decades later. It helped.
@dianawright8334
@dianawright8334 3 жыл бұрын
This girl has always scared the crap out of me. She is void of emotion and empathy. Her never admitting any wrong doing just blows me away. I’m so sad for her Father. He is in denial, I hope she never gits let out. Ever
@thetimeisnow760
@thetimeisnow760 3 жыл бұрын
The father has been conditioned as a Christian to forgive. Erin doesn't deserve his love and forgiveness.
@joandolliedoyle775
@joandolliedoyle775 3 жыл бұрын
@@thetimeisnow760 I was listening to a podcast yesterday about forgiveness. I think if he really forgives her its a sign of his strength. I think you can forgive someone and still know that they have to face up to the consequences of their actions. It is hard to know how you would be if it was your child. Personally once my trust is broken that is kind of it for me. The reality is that if you are around these people, you are expendable the moment you are an obstacle to them getting what they want. So scary.
@ursa8400
@ursa8400 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if her father, or other family members, had any inclination that something was off about Erin before the murders.
@krisl6661
@krisl6661 3 жыл бұрын
Killing those little brothers was such a sickening thing to do- it’s hard to even look at her knowing that!
@kyliemcmillan701
@kyliemcmillan701 Жыл бұрын
Please do Courtney Love talking about Kurt Cobain's death. Would absolutely love to hear all your thoughts.
@EmilyBlueJaye
@EmilyBlueJaye Жыл бұрын
Ooo this is a good one!
@lorir5728
@lorir5728 Жыл бұрын
Yes! That would be a great one. She is so all over the place
@amandaduerk5866
@amandaduerk5866 Жыл бұрын
Yes!! I find her grotesque
@tiffknox6158
@tiffknox6158 Жыл бұрын
Yeah. I saw that movie back in the day, Kurt and Courtney, and it made me wonder about her.
@freiagalacar5786
@freiagalacar5786 Жыл бұрын
I couldn’t finish watching this interview at first cause this girl is one of the scariest people I’ve ever seen. She is not even trying to mimic emotions. Most psychopaths are at least good at faking them.
@heathermatthies3638
@heathermatthies3638 2 жыл бұрын
An interesting follow up to this would be to analyze the other 3 kids and what motivated them go along with her & how truthful they are in general.
@carlamarlene2927
@carlamarlene2927 2 жыл бұрын
For sure! And I would watch every single one of them
@cpcattin
@cpcattin 2 жыл бұрын
How many psychopaths can be in the same town of the same age willing to kill a friends family ? And how many willing people were rejected from participating ? I would like to believe this is a rare collection of killers. Are these people everywhere ?
@nerdmythicalfighter_2130
@nerdmythicalfighter_2130 2 жыл бұрын
@@cpcattin Maybe not psychopaths everywhere but people who can be manipulated by them
@joanneblack7697
@joanneblack7697 2 жыл бұрын
@@cpcattin Wow, yeah. Good point. It looks like there are cases where as a group, some people will do extreme stuff that, on their own, they probably wouldn't or couldn't.
@slangintxbbq1129
@slangintxbbq1129 2 жыл бұрын
I went to school with Charlie and Bobby. They were both younger than me and seemed like nice normal kids. I also knew Erin she worked with me for a month or so at a local restaurant. She was very quiet. She had only been in public school for one year. She had homeschooling by her parents her whole life. I wish I remembered more about her. She was very quiet, polite and reserved. This truly shocked our community. Also my husband knew Charlie Wilkinson well and that he was a nice normal guy.
@jedilegoarts9882
@jedilegoarts9882 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been an inner city secondary school teacher for 25years. I’ve only met a few psychopathic kids. But… there’s not much else scarier than a psychopathic teen brain.
@forpetessake3532
@forpetessake3532 Жыл бұрын
immaturity with craziness is a bad recipe - POISON
@pennyp7382
@pennyp7382 Жыл бұрын
Yes quite terrifying. I have a close friend with a terrifying child. She's been saying he's going to be wildly successful as many psycopaths are..or in prison. He's got no empathy and has every hallmark including torturing animals. She quit having pets when she realized it was him hurting them. She can't have any alcohol in the house because he thought it was hilarious to sneak shots at 5 years old. She has other kids and they are all sweet and fun loving. He also thought it was really funny to sneak out of the house and walk his little brother far down the street to the aqueduct and bolt away running back home and leaving the little one there. He's a teenager now and I agree nothing much scarier.
@Ellectric_amp
@Ellectric_amp Жыл бұрын
Something interesting I think is the “yes sir/no sir” is something that is ingrained into children in the South. They’re taught that it is a sign of respect to anyone in authority/ their elders. And so I think that every time she uses the “yes sir/no sir” it is to try and assure Dr. Phil that she is a typical good kid, she’s respectful, you can tell because she calls him Sir. And I think she purposely does this because this is what normal people do. They show respect to their elders. So she’s got to be normal too, right?
@steviecrow914
@steviecrow914 3 жыл бұрын
“Uncanny valley” exists when you’re with a psychopath. You can sense something critical is missing. It’s scary as hell.
@LeighRobinsonBushcraft
@LeighRobinsonBushcraft 3 жыл бұрын
Yep. What is most scary, is that some people don't sense it and end up a victim. I've met a few psychopaths and they are terrifying.
@nettejohnson7492
@nettejohnson7492 3 жыл бұрын
I was married to one for *33* years = 6 and on the 6th day, GOoD was ar*rested* for crimes not committed as jesUS is the innocent victim who is persecuted, prosecuted and convicted because only PETers$ with purse CAIN walk on just-ICE v justUS who is the FIRE... WE are the 1's who CARry PETer's bROCKen croSS up the hILLs$ of cal-vary stATES$ where the FED CoUrT of APPeaLES$ where juDAS$ is pAID and mulitpLIED as $ talks$ and CAIN was ABEL to 'leAVE'...
@jrgenlervik9374
@jrgenlervik9374 3 жыл бұрын
@@LeighRobinsonBushcraft You've probably met a lot more psychopaths than you're aware of. As the panel commented on in their video on Darlie Routier video, a majority of psychopaths live well functioning, normal lives.
@LeighRobinsonBushcraft
@LeighRobinsonBushcraft 3 жыл бұрын
@@jrgenlervik9374 I just looked it up and they're about 1% of the population. I guess you're right! This girl though, she's the super scary 'don't turn your back on' sort!
@Germania72
@Germania72 3 жыл бұрын
@@jrgenlervik9374 And I read that you need to have psychopathy under control to be a neurosurgeon, for example. I read that many CEOs have a level of psychopathy as well...
@gwenowens6727
@gwenowens6727 3 жыл бұрын
In a review published in the Journal of Neurochemistry published in 2016 it was reported that “slight but persistent perturbations in synapse physiology can result in major defects that may manifest as brain disorders.” Scott, Chase and Mark all commented that Erin Caffey exhibited signs of some kind of synaptic delay, the very slow blink, a lack of understanding of questions, reduced intellect and a general impression that there was some sort of disconnect. So my question is, is it right to describe Erin Caffey as “a monster” if her behaviour may be the result of a brain disorder? Do the panel know if Erin Caffey had a psychiatric assessment? Also, does the panel think the fact that females very rarely kill their family has a bearing on how we regard murders committed by women. Do we hold women to a higher standard than men where violent crime is concerned? As always another fascinating analysis. Thank you.
@BookishDark
@BookishDark 7 ай бұрын
I feel like her statement of “it just happened” actually means “it’s just a thing that happened. It’s done. It’s not relevant anymore.” vs “it was impulsive” - it obviously wasn’t impulsive.
@readventurekids
@readventurekids 8 ай бұрын
"EmPHAsis on the wrong sylLAble." Wonderful! I am going to be borrowing this beauty.
@badgersandpackers5132
@badgersandpackers5132 3 жыл бұрын
In my mind, the Behavioral panel members are highly intelligent and insightful.
@jillybean67
@jillybean67 3 жыл бұрын
Her blink rate....." yesterday !! ".....😂😂
@lissalives1
@lissalives1 Жыл бұрын
Killers have that certain gaze and dark look in their eyes. Her eyes spook me. 😳
@2nicnag2
@2nicnag2 6 ай бұрын
It is such a cliche but I absolutely cannot imagine being her father, he lost everyone he loved due to one decision
@nmrowdy4605
@nmrowdy4605 3 жыл бұрын
When that girl looks up slowly it's like when a demon possessing someone shows itself in a horror movie!
@Stuppardsd
@Stuppardsd 2 жыл бұрын
And on a side note: Chase is the scariest on the panel. You have an unreadable, deadpan manner; Greg is as cutthroat, but has a honest approach to it; Scott is disarming with his southern charm -- almost Columbo tactics that work so well; and everyone who see Mark wants to have a personal "make me a better person" session
@Weepypeach
@Weepypeach 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. I see him as probably being both the sweetest and the scariest of these guys.
@HerMajesty1
@HerMajesty1 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting. I find nothing scary about them. Incredibly interesting to learn from and would love to have them and theirs over for drinks around the fire and listen to stories. 🍷🔥
@Stuppardsd
@Stuppardsd 2 жыл бұрын
@@HerMajesty1 I'm not saying they are all not fascinating and would be mesmerizing to listen to. Chase Hughes has the perfect poker face, with (like the others, although they use different techniques) a predatory way of cornering a person of interest in a way that would be eviscerating - and you wouldn't see it coming until it was too late
@Weepypeach
@Weepypeach 2 жыл бұрын
@@HerMajesty1 they’re not scary people at their core, but imagine yourself being ruthlessly interrogated by one of them…
@e.claire1718
@e.claire1718 2 жыл бұрын
Does it seem to anyone else that (in every video) Chase is unimpressed by or generally doesn't care for Mark? Lol seems to me that maybe Chase doesn't feel like Mark is necessarily as qualified...
@Bluntobject
@Bluntobject Жыл бұрын
Greg I like your assessment of the smile as a facade crack. My ex-wife had this terrifying grimace that would happen when she was caught in court in a lie she couldn't explain. It only happened during those times when she was questioned unscriptedly.
@genomic_
@genomic_ Жыл бұрын
Wow! I noticed her lack of eye blinking after Greg pointed it out, gee it’s eerie 😱
@ec3134
@ec3134 2 жыл бұрын
Most women cry out of frustration... FINALLY a man who gets it!
@diogenes5654
@diogenes5654 2 жыл бұрын
and suppressed anger
@danp1471
@danp1471 2 жыл бұрын
Timestamp Guide 2:02 Background of case 3:03 Clip One Things the B.P. covers: Matching behavior, question vs command, using "and" instead of "but", facts about psychopaths, baseline, changes of tone & volume output, pupil dilation specific to psychopaths, bracing, eye lock (creeper), front of mouth talking vs back of mouth, looking for cracks in the facade, blink rate or lack there of, & draw in of breath. 13:59 Clip Two The B.P. discuss: Front of mouth talking, eye blocks & eye locks, 'word coughing', use of language, cognitive empathy, being more structural than relational, imitation, & robotic movement. 16:57 Chases 'Using past perfect' tip 18:04 Hallmark of Psychopathy One & Two: Absence of affect & Eye shifting 22:10 What a psychopath is 25:18 Clip Three The B.P. discuss: Transfer of emotions, excitement vs anger, hand adapting, shift of cadance when going into story telling mode, eye drawing, distaste, using 'before I knew it' to hide time, verbal bridging, elevated animation, lack of remorse/guilt, & inhibitor of emotions. 32:50 Hallmark: Lack of remorse or guilt 34:02 Clip Four Things to take note of: Lack of shame, word salad, blame sharing, lengthening of time by putting weight behind the words she's saying, indicator of cooperation & compliance through the use of present/past tense, lack of emotional affect & lack of empathy. 36:14 Greg explains what subject & object means 40:55 Scotts Mind Virus: Fake accusation of contradiction tactic 43:15 Hallmark: Shallow Affect 43:52 Scotts book recommendation Without Conscience by Robert Hare. 45:01 Clip Five The B.P. discuss: A crack in the facade possibly holding back a smile or show of anger, a contained ball of anger, using power by proxy, regression, an attempt to appear innocent, & that there was no positive denial. 48:46 Chases 4th law of human behavior: "Every adult is a product of childhood suffering & reward." 49:33 Hallmark: Positive Image Management (P.I.M.) 53:30 Clip Six B.P. discuss: Regressive behavior, spike in politeness, body shrinking, 2 reasons we cry (Buss & Schmitt 1993), slight sadness in lower face, promiscuous sexual behavior, avoidance, some forehead involvement, fading facts, crying could be from frustration. 55:32 Hallmark: Promiscuous sexual behavior 1:02:41 Clip Seven 1:03:15 The Panel has fun with Greg before discussing: Fading facts, fading tone, fading volume, bobbleheading, dopamine & unfairness. 1:07:26 Mark explains the actual reason people get mad when they are accused of something they didn't do. 1:10:53 Hallmark: Failure to take responsibility for personal actions. 1:11:57 Clip Eight B.P. discuss: Facade, redirecting approach by giving a command instead of question, matching behavior, "Golluming" forcing out words, denial by proxy, slight disgust, & abstract thoughts. 1:17:12 Hallmark: Impulsivity (saying it just happened) 1:18:34 Perceptual positioning (what do you think I mean when I say...") cognitive empathy 1:21:56 Clip Nine Greg describes using cascading scale of guilt in hopes of getting a confession, a smile that cracks through her facade, & a increase in blink rate. Chase points out that there was no denial, along with the many odd child like tiny headshakes she was doing, before pointing out the quick shift of facial expression from 'innocent little girl' to 'stone cold monster' after Dr. Phil says is that true? 1:22:36 to catch the shift that may well forever haunt Chase. Lol 1:28:10 Final Hallmark: Need for stimulation & prone to boredom. Thanks for another amazing episode guys. Today's actually my birthday & I pretty much spent the whole day listening to you guys lol. I was stuck at work anyway so thanks for keeping me company : )
@marciatex
@marciatex 2 жыл бұрын
Just going to leave my comment here to return to.
@danp1471
@danp1471 2 жыл бұрын
@@marciatex will give it a like in case that helps you
@coastalfamily
@coastalfamily 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@barbwall3678
@barbwall3678 2 жыл бұрын
This helps so much, thank you! There were more than a few key points I wanted to refer back to. One almost needs to take notes, but now there’s Dan.😉 But your hooded cat scares me!🙀
@ilsevdg1194
@ilsevdg1194 Ай бұрын
I love the respectful, open-minded, professional, generous collaboration between you guys. And the shared passion. It's a feast to see. Great body language.
@daniwright7192
@daniwright7192 Жыл бұрын
I noticed that she made sure to say she was petting her "little" dog buddy. That instantly stood out as her trying to be innocent and normal. Not only was she petting her dog but HER "little" dog.
@lisaa8437
@lisaa8437 9 күн бұрын
“All the way to the end of the driveway” she says….exactly!
@rhodaadams9575
@rhodaadams9575 3 жыл бұрын
Chase is very articulate and always references insightful studies. I think he delivers his analysis the best, straightforward, and easy to understand.
@rheamickens3128
@rheamickens3128 3 жыл бұрын
He's my favorite
@serendipitous_synchronicity
@serendipitous_synchronicity 2 жыл бұрын
They all add flair I feel... a bit like the seinfeld characters lol... it wouldn't be quite the same without their four-sight! 🙃 Tho chase makes for easy learning... Greg too!! Then my next 2 favourites... come in at third 😊 not for any other reason than my particular manner of comprehension, I guess. I often take notes while watching too.. Chases brainwash yourself video is a bloody ripper I think ☺
@yappalachia
@yappalachia 2 жыл бұрын
This channel is addictive. I've watched so many videos this week I feel like I should send these guys a Christmas card.
@cathyincolorado1432
@cathyincolorado1432 Ай бұрын
I ran across this last night. I see a young woman still using her soft voice to come across as an innocent little thing. She's been interviewed several times so she's got her act down pat.
@insight1256
@insight1256 Жыл бұрын
My older brother was a full blown psychopath and I can say with certainty he wasn’t a product of environment, he was born that way.
@HadassaMoon144
@HadassaMoon144 Жыл бұрын
It absolutely does happen. It's very sad and rare but does happen.
@tinajeppesen5948
@tinajeppesen5948 Жыл бұрын
I have always wondered about her dad tho, not keeping the dog is a sign of a bad person to me.
@barrymaxwell3487
@barrymaxwell3487 Жыл бұрын
@@tinajeppesen5948 I agree
@loriburnip
@loriburnip Жыл бұрын
Same with my Uncle. He was babied & coddled by my Grandma, but wasn't mistreated in any way. He is a violent psychopath & my Mum, his sister, is the kindest most wonderful person ever. Both raised in the same home. He was talking about killing people with an axe when he was 3 or 4.
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