PT. 3 LORD JAMAR responds to KRS-ONE "BEEF" and DEBATE about who started hip hop

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The Past Journey and Present Progression Podcast

The Past Journey and Present Progression Podcast

14 күн бұрын

#lordjamar
#krs-one
#hiphopnews
#debate
#hiphop
#hiphopculture
#nojumper
#vladtv
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@Aziz.Hakim.
@Aziz.Hakim. 12 күн бұрын
WE MUST SUPPORT AND PROTECT L.J.
@alistairfannell6694
@alistairfannell6694 12 күн бұрын
I agree
@lockvegas05
@lockvegas05 12 күн бұрын
@@alistairfannell6694facts! I behind him 100 percent.
@dwightgayle9589
@dwightgayle9589 12 күн бұрын
For what? Telling lies😂🤦
@user-wb7nv9ht1g
@user-wb7nv9ht1g 12 күн бұрын
You can serve and protect him if his life is more valuable than your own. You can be his bodyguard. Kevin Costnae to his Whitney Houston if he's that important to you.
@forevershampoo
@forevershampoo 12 күн бұрын
yes, peace to the god
@GH-gd9yf
@GH-gd9yf 12 күн бұрын
This is deeper than Hip Hop. .KRS1 is so disappointing. The Bambaataa comments and now this. I still love his music, but it's like he's a programmed clone now. Anyone that grew up in that era,, especially NYC knows that "regular black ' people started and ran HH. That's the deep part....Please tell em L Jamar.
@juliancolvil5124
@juliancolvil5124 12 күн бұрын
When you said this is deeper than Hip Hop, I don't think most people know how serious that statement is!
@terrencemalone2110
@terrencemalone2110 12 күн бұрын
His music was garbage, boring and garbage
@ramire7heavenz252
@ramire7heavenz252 12 күн бұрын
What he say about bambatta?
@360will7
@360will7 12 күн бұрын
@@terrencemalone2110 KRS1 is in his feelings with Jamaicans but his music da shit.
@idread3523
@idread3523 12 күн бұрын
Yeah and equivocates and wants to please all. He's an appeaser
@ignaciofuentes2642
@ignaciofuentes2642 12 күн бұрын
100% truth spoken.
@will232bc
@will232bc 12 күн бұрын
As Dominican American from the Bronx. Born and raised in the 80s. I don't get why some of my fellow Hispanics are trying to lie about this matter when it is so obvious of who were the creators of Hip-Hop.🙈
@mrwhite77781
@mrwhite77781 12 күн бұрын
The whites and Latinos called rap jungle music
@will232bc
@will232bc 11 күн бұрын
@@mrwhite77781 , true..
@Whatsthe_411
@Whatsthe_411 11 күн бұрын
@@mrwhite77781 that was our parents from a different generation that would say that but not us who were young and friends from the hood. Both sides of this argument are not telling the whole entire truth of how it went down. Blacks invented it but we helped evolve it since it was just a natural progression since many of our friends were black and they like to chill with us.
@randee4550
@randee4550 10 күн бұрын
Dominicans came later. Like way later. Y'all can't talk. It was is Puerto Ricans
@will232bc
@will232bc 10 күн бұрын
@randee4550 , yeah, Puerto Ricans 🇵🇷 were here before any other Hispanic bc of their American citizenship, but I'm not arguing with that. I'm arguing that Puerto Ricans 🇵🇷 were 50%-50% in the creation of Hip hop is really tough to prove looking back? When I was growing up, there were probably a handful that I could remember? I remember Cypress Hill(Mexican) & the Beatnuts, etc, etc? It wasn't really that many? Fabulous (Dominican/Black) from the past decade and just a handful now? So, I mean? Just looking at the whole history of hip-hop, you can't really say that it was 50%-50% , I'm just speaking the truth...
@amarlittle1361
@amarlittle1361 12 күн бұрын
I'm from the Bronx. Born in the 50's. Puerto Ricans and Jamaican, we're there but was not down. They started getting down after the 1977 blackout.
@yourmomlovesme1824
@yourmomlovesme1824 12 күн бұрын
That’s a lie
@celebneilz1023
@celebneilz1023 12 күн бұрын
Exactly 😂😂😂😂😂 way later , no way they created anything
@celebneilz1023
@celebneilz1023 12 күн бұрын
And I’m Jamaican and I know for facts my uncles wasn’t fucking wit hip hop in the 70s
@cow212tst
@cow212tst 12 күн бұрын
I'm puerto rican and I can admit we emulated fba style , but they accepted us into their culture.
@yourmomlovesme1824
@yourmomlovesme1824 12 күн бұрын
@@celebneilz1023 and guess what a lot of black Americans didn’t rock with hiphop either they were more into pop, funk etc my elders told me the black American radio stations would clown the hell out of hiphop!!!! They would say on the radio” we have rnb but no hiphop!!!!!” Research you will see , Caribbean , Afro Latinos mostly Puerto Ricans and black Americans fought for the genre and they also created it , you can’t re write history
@kevindixon7240
@kevindixon7240 12 күн бұрын
FBA all day, we create the culture
@dwightgayle9589
@dwightgayle9589 12 күн бұрын
Created nothing bro Jamaicans been doing the culture of hip-hop yrs b4 It caught on in the bronx
@wayofthekodiak3118
@wayofthekodiak3118 12 күн бұрын
The culture is quite gay now. You still wanna claim that shit? 😂😂😂
@ummeshariff
@ummeshariff 11 күн бұрын
​@@dwightgayle9589where can I go on KZfaq??
@enochrry6024
@enochrry6024 10 күн бұрын
​@@dwightgayle9589...Created nothing?, that right there shows you're bias every race of people created something.
@FBA-ld6tj
@FBA-ld6tj 4 күн бұрын
@@dwightgayle9589 Jamaican's didn't create shit us FBA don't even understand y'all when y'all talk FBA created hip hop from the rhyming rapping slang and dress styles we created all of it because hip hop comes from soul and hard funk and that's all FBA Jamaican's should stick to cooking jerk chicken 😂
@Hassan-lt7xm
@Hassan-lt7xm 12 күн бұрын
Just Ice and Krs 1 made a song called " going way back" about the beginning of hip hop. I didn't hear any Puerto Rican names ijs
@negroantonio28
@negroantonio28 12 күн бұрын
That proves that KRS1 was paid to say what he recently said by his behind the scene benefactors
@mrwhite77781
@mrwhite77781 12 күн бұрын
I heard the black spades just ice was Jamaican rapping like a black American
@alishamoss6801
@alishamoss6801 9 күн бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😂😂😂😂😂 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
@Whatsthe_411
@Whatsthe_411 12 күн бұрын
I’m a nuyorican and there’s no way that us Puerto Ricans created hip-hop, but we were down and help carry the torch and was involved in the evolution of hip-hop. But all creation of it was 100% black.
@ummeshariff
@ummeshariff 11 күн бұрын
How did you help carry the torch?? 🙄
@Whatsthe_411
@Whatsthe_411 11 күн бұрын
@@ummeshariff you serious? lol Everyone know if you lived in NYC in the 70s and ‘80s that Puerto Rican and even Dominicans lived in the same hood together. We breakdance and popped and up rock together, we beat box together, some engaged in graffiti together, they DJ together and some rap as I remember my friends doing it. Also, we introduced our own flavor in fashion. I saw some breakdancers that would go to Long Island from Brooklyn to breakdancers competition at some clubs introducing different moves. This was never a question as Hip Hop culture was evolving in front of our eyes and we all enjoyed it.
@ummeshariff
@ummeshariff 11 күн бұрын
@@Whatsthe_411 oh stop it it's like playing basketball for the first time and liking it and then you just continue to play it for the rest of your life.
@ummeshariff
@ummeshariff 11 күн бұрын
@@Whatsthe_411 yeah it was evolving and it was a trend. But when you have everybody and their mother saying they made it up, it's time to take a step back. I mean I don't know what style you are talking about. I mean you don't have your own little style present day. You are still doing what black people do, acting like that also y'all. Face the facts that you took on the black man and black woman's identity.
@Whatsthe_411
@Whatsthe_411 11 күн бұрын
@@ummeshariff did you create Hip Hop?
@seanjenkins8588
@seanjenkins8588 12 күн бұрын
I know how to protect the culture. Stop supporting everyone non fba.
@yoyo103queenan5
@yoyo103queenan5 12 күн бұрын
There ya go👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾💯💯
@TheGOTDAMN1
@TheGOTDAMN1 12 күн бұрын
💯
@mzeastcoastgirl390
@mzeastcoastgirl390 9 күн бұрын
Facts we gotta gatekeep
@GOD-lw4qf
@GOD-lw4qf 12 күн бұрын
Lord Jamar always stands on business.
@deondimicks8159
@deondimicks8159 12 күн бұрын
These other groups did nothing for hip hop or any of the other music genre that we created
@terrellcuevo2369
@terrellcuevo2369 12 күн бұрын
They definitely contributed BUT did NOT create it.
@MrSupplementScene
@MrSupplementScene 12 күн бұрын
You didn't create anything yourself
@ummeshariff
@ummeshariff 11 күн бұрын
​@@terrellcuevo2369how did they contribute? 🙄
@twongreen9968
@twongreen9968 10 күн бұрын
@@ummeshariffthese be these 🦝 brothers and sistas who really wanna join hands with them so they are going to continue to say and need they oppressors by they side it’s pathetic at this point
@negusdawoo
@negusdawoo 10 күн бұрын
That's a lie .. u need to stop taking a truth and holding it up with a lie. Don't forget lord jamar used jamaican slang and voice in most his songs
@blackjesus6433
@blackjesus6433 12 күн бұрын
Low key Reggae was influenced by FBA. 🤫 🙏🏾
@kirkwardy3481
@kirkwardy3481 12 күн бұрын
Not low key at all. The creator of Reggae Toots Hibert stated that Rocksteady music ( not the dance group) was of the main catalyst but also R&b had a huge impact on the him creating the Reggage style of music.
@TheGOTDAMN1
@TheGOTDAMN1 12 күн бұрын
💯
@mrwhite77781
@mrwhite77781 12 күн бұрын
The ninja mimic like a soul singer 6748 was my number hey hey hey I knew he copied Black Americans just by hearing his voice
@njandrews4105
@njandrews4105 10 күн бұрын
Americans created calypso now ? lol 😆
@HouseMusicDefined
@HouseMusicDefined 10 күн бұрын
Who listens to calypso? What does that demographic look like? Not being sarcastic. Seriously. Because I have never heard anyone ever listen to it in America.
@MM-cp8nt
@MM-cp8nt 12 күн бұрын
"JAMES EDWARD WEST" invented microphones a FBA 1931
@DJLordShango
@DJLordShango 12 күн бұрын
So a black American invented the microphone???? Do you have receipts?? That’s incredible really but never talked about
@BRUHVADO
@BRUHVADO 12 күн бұрын
FBA? Isnt he He's biracial?
@enochrry6024
@enochrry6024 10 күн бұрын
​@@DJLordShango..Receipts?, it's on google.
@butterbwoi1344
@butterbwoi1344 12 күн бұрын
FBA’s have been very passive but it’s a new age now. No more being exploited, used and stepped on. We’re reclaiming our thrones. Get down or lay down….
@wayofthekodiak3118
@wayofthekodiak3118 11 күн бұрын
Nobody is using and stepping on you except your own people.
@njandrews4105
@njandrews4105 10 күн бұрын
But you all think you’re Cherokee Olmec’s lol 😆
@wayofthekodiak3118
@wayofthekodiak3118 10 күн бұрын
@@njandrews4105 LMAO 🤣 straight facts!
@mzeastcoastgirl390
@mzeastcoastgirl390 9 күн бұрын
Facts!!!!! We need our culture to be ours. Eminem fans think he own it too smh shut em down
@njandrews4105
@njandrews4105 9 күн бұрын
@@mzeastcoastgirl390 this isn’t a traditional culture it was made a product accessible to anyone in the public as soon as it went on wax
@mrcmid9132
@mrcmid9132 12 күн бұрын
💡 these are facts. Non fba people hated hip hop and rap music when it was created.
@QuikNik14
@QuikNik14 12 күн бұрын
So did the FBA elders.
@Perk10blvd
@Perk10blvd 12 күн бұрын
True indeed and they came around
@QuikNik14
@QuikNik14 12 күн бұрын
@@Perk10blvd at the same time like most
@dwightgayle9589
@dwightgayle9589 12 күн бұрын
U obviously don't kn Jamaican music culture
@stone5578
@stone5578 12 күн бұрын
@@QuikNik14 that's a fact
@alstone5005
@alstone5005 12 күн бұрын
In my lifetime I have seen the voice of the culture switch hands. There is no greater voice for the culture than Lord Jamar. There is no debate. It is no longer KRS. He can simply rap better
@crliny1
@crliny1 12 күн бұрын
What part of Puerto Rican culture can Black Americans claim based on "We wuz there in New York"?
@uptownbladebrown
@uptownbladebrown 12 күн бұрын
We showed puerto ricans how we helped to create afro cuban jazz aka salsa here in nyc and they said no thats just their music. When we actually have the receipts unlike them with hip hop. So their mentality is whats theirs is theirs and whats ours is theirs.
@QuikNik14
@QuikNik14 12 күн бұрын
@@uptownbladebrownsalsa derived from Bomba. African percussion music from our African ancestors in Puerto Rico that were brought over on slave ships.
@jerzydevoos5413
@jerzydevoos5413 12 күн бұрын
⁠@@QuikNik14Salsa is more than just “African percussion”
@jerzydevoos5413
@jerzydevoos5413 12 күн бұрын
@@uptownbladebrownExactly, and they would never limit salsa to being nyc music and culture that doesn’t belong to puerto ricans everywhere
@FBA-ld6tj
@FBA-ld6tj 12 күн бұрын
​@@uptownbladebrownExactly they got the same colonizer mindset as the regular anglo saxons this is why we def need to gatekeep everything FBA from here on out
@kingintef5017
@kingintef5017 12 күн бұрын
Thank you lord Jamar! My name is Jamar also, I always respected you keeping it real.
@98sta-Reputable
@98sta-Reputable 12 күн бұрын
He 100% right!!!
@jayregal6478
@jayregal6478 12 күн бұрын
JAZZ, THE BLUES, COUNTRY, and ROCK and ROLL have all been stolen from us, and goddammit, we are taking ALL of it back!
@user-qb6fq5xr6b
@user-qb6fq5xr6b 12 күн бұрын
Correct, dont forget House, and Techno.
@LBoria-my5xx
@LBoria-my5xx 11 күн бұрын
Our identity as the original Americans was also stolen by foreigners
@juliocortez5209
@juliocortez5209 10 күн бұрын
no you're not. it originated there...but its gone now.
@LBoria-my5xx
@LBoria-my5xx 10 күн бұрын
@@jayregal6478 that's right no foreigner should be involved in our culture at all. They need to create their own thing but they are not creative period. 💯🔥💯🔥
@victorhampton3452
@victorhampton3452 12 күн бұрын
Powerful I didn't even know people had the balls to stand up too this 💪🏾 lord jamar
@eddielee9990
@eddielee9990 12 күн бұрын
I'm from Atlanta Georgia and I lived in the South Bronx on Costa and Minda Street Hunts point Area and The #6 Train took me home and Puerto Ricans and black's didn't get along like that I'm not saying that we were separated I'm saying that we didn't get along like that in the Bronx
@tonysskitmarkz4257
@tonysskitmarkz4257 12 күн бұрын
Because we don't respect ourselves, no one respects us. Locally or globally.
@jeffshuford3421
@jeffshuford3421 12 күн бұрын
FBA has ultimate respect for ourselves
@jerzydevoos5413
@jerzydevoos5413 12 күн бұрын
So they respected us when we respected ourselves?
@TheGOTDAMN1
@TheGOTDAMN1 12 күн бұрын
They about to start!
@HTTC4life1981
@HTTC4life1981 10 күн бұрын
We got some of the most respected people in the world Russia president said he loved Tupac Michael Jackson had Army's guarding in Europe North Korea ask Dennis Rodman to come visit and teach them basketball Dr King known globally as a intellectual speaker and civil rights freedom fighter globally along with Malcom X people have classes in China how to dress and act like American blacks a google would have stop this self hate in 3 seconds smh
@stilllookingforthetruth4465
@stilllookingforthetruth4465 12 күн бұрын
They not gonna like this 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@BelovedBrotha
@BelovedBrotha 12 күн бұрын
The brother is 1000% correct. I dont even know how it’s a question about who started this thing called hip hop.
@denzibluesolinfinitymusicw6535
@denzibluesolinfinitymusicw6535 12 күн бұрын
I was there at the street jams and block parties in Harlem NYC and The Bronx in the late 70's and Jamaican people didn't rock with us neither did Puerto Ricans these people didn't get with the culture until it became popular... facts Latin is a dead language plus if you not from Spain then how are you Spanish 🤔
@douglasjessie8242
@douglasjessie8242 12 күн бұрын
💯
@dwightgayle9589
@dwightgayle9589 12 күн бұрын
Jamaican been had street parties n house parties
@stone5578
@stone5578 12 күн бұрын
not my part of the bronx , blacks and Latins were 1
@LOU1982
@LOU1982 12 күн бұрын
@@dwightgayle9589Not in the United States 😂😂
@calbog1990
@calbog1990 12 күн бұрын
Listening comprehension is a lost skill. The GOD never said other races didn't contribute to this great art form known as hip-hop. He said that Blacks are the creators, and other races learned the art form from us. I disagreed with what he said about Jamaica, but he said Jamaica and HIP-HOP, not Jamaica and Reggie.
@mackinshizzaveli4202
@mackinshizzaveli4202 12 күн бұрын
It’s not about comprehension, it’s about erasure. The history of Black American music from the negro spirituals from the killing fields of the south to rap music has been documented already. They’re trying to act like American blacks aren’t as influential and important as we are.
@ummeshariff
@ummeshariff 11 күн бұрын
​@@mackinshizzaveli4202that's what happens when you call them black even though they're mixed. And you want to date the women 🤷🏾‍♀️
@parishkennedy3528
@parishkennedy3528 12 күн бұрын
No fba no hiphop
@knighthawkt.k.4648
@knighthawkt.k.4648 12 күн бұрын
Like I always say!!!! If you take Puerto Ricans and Jamaicans out of the culture it would still be great with just Blk Americans that let's u know right there the type of influential frequency we have on Hip Hop music in general our people set trends like no other and this was understood yrs ago now we're in 2024 They feel like there contributions are equal to Native Blk people if we we're all one how come Blacks wasn't allowed to join the Latin Kings🤔. Whereas the Bloods have several Latin brothers in they organizations
@BIGCHRISRC
@BIGCHRISRC 12 күн бұрын
Might as well say it James Brown really started hip hop everything rooted in his sound.
@eeefriend4life562
@eeefriend4life562 12 күн бұрын
They are tryna say James Brown got his moves from them. 😂😂😂
@unionelectricialworker
@unionelectricialworker 12 күн бұрын
No, Pigmeat Mark,he died in the Bronx and was from Durham NC.
@blackjesus6433
@blackjesus6433 12 күн бұрын
​@@unionelectricialworkerNo the enslaved brothas. They had hip-hop on the plantations. 🙏🏾
@FBA-ld6tj
@FBA-ld6tj 12 күн бұрын
​@@eeefriend4life562Next these PR clowns will say James Brown was a Black Dominican or PR 😅
@dwightgayle9589
@dwightgayle9589 12 күн бұрын
Stop the nonsense
@markburns2344
@markburns2344 12 күн бұрын
100% Truth
@MarshaScott-ns1zd
@MarshaScott-ns1zd 12 күн бұрын
That yt boy is lying, they are the reasons for all of this division
@Originalking
@Originalking 12 күн бұрын
😂
@njandrews4105
@njandrews4105 10 күн бұрын
lol 😆
@peplu7110
@peplu7110 12 күн бұрын
Bx in da building.much love family.Black power.bx🏆💜🌎📺🎶📰📚🔥💯🎊🖤👑
@stephenmarte9929
@stephenmarte9929 12 күн бұрын
Dj kool herc father of hip hop music was born in Jamaica facts.
@LOU1982
@LOU1982 12 күн бұрын
No he’s not😂
@stephenmarte9929
@stephenmarte9929 12 күн бұрын
@@LOU1982 if he's not then who is?
@DerekHenderson-cw4gs
@DerekHenderson-cw4gs 12 күн бұрын
Peace lord speak on it
@mrwhite77781
@mrwhite77781 12 күн бұрын
Universal truth he speaking
@timmyreg
@timmyreg 12 күн бұрын
First off, I have nothing but respect and love for Lord Jamar. I love his stance and unapologetic, researched knowledge. Hence, Seeing as we're keeping in 100, the surname Dixon doesn't mean you're not Jamaican. I'm not saying Grand Puba is, but we gotta keep shit real so as not to leave perforations. Jamaican surnames come from British slave masters, Dixon is a British name, so of course, a black American of Jamaican decent can have the name. That's all. Peace and blessings 🙌🏿
@themightyfp
@themightyfp 12 күн бұрын
Problem is people think Hiphop started with Wild Style and Beat Street that’s a lot of people’s reference points.
@mrwhite77781
@mrwhite77781 12 күн бұрын
Rap started way before that even in beat street the black Americans ruled the star roles
@themightyfp
@themightyfp 11 күн бұрын
@@mrwhite77781 agreed but in beat street and wild style they have Latinos all throughout so it gives off the impression that they was were part of the creation.
@chennao
@chennao 12 күн бұрын
Nothing but the facts, sometimes the truth hurts.LJ is on point
@Aion-wt1it
@Aion-wt1it 12 күн бұрын
That just ice (going way back) song with krs was banging.i didn't hear no Puerto Rican names up there either.but I can't forget my homeboy ziggknott!!!
@shariefrobinson604
@shariefrobinson604 12 күн бұрын
That’s Right lord Jamar spit them Facts FBA all day 🫡💯❤️🖤💚✊🏾
@Lovely-ff7uv
@Lovely-ff7uv 12 күн бұрын
Which hip hop song in the 70's/80's represented "toasting"? Can someone please explain what toasting is? If possible, leave a song as reference. I would like to listen for myself.
@Andrew-gq2ot
@Andrew-gq2ot 12 күн бұрын
Lord Jamar is speaking 100% facts. Raggae Music was never a commercial success in America. Youd hear it on listener supported Public Radio ( KPFK Los Angeles ) who sponsored a concert at the fourm on 9/23.1982 . but mainstream Radio didnt play Reggae only Public Radio did usually on the Weekends. I remember KJLH Los Angeles ( stevie wonders ststion ) playing some Raggae Songs by Bob Marley, Gregory Issacs, Third World, Burning Spear but it didnt appeal to listeners. Im not knocking Raggae or Puerto Rican or Jsmaican Music or Culture I still have Raggae records. But there's no way in hell Puerto Rican or Jamacian Music and Cultures could have created Hip Hop. Its strickly a 100% Black American Art Form. You cant Rap, break dance, lock, pop lock or do the electric boogaloo off Puerto Rican or Jamacian Music. Google Burning Spear 9/23/1982 Reggae Concert at the Los Angeles Fourm. And the 1972 Movie: The Harder They Come. Starring Reggae Artist Jimmy Cliff. That was Jamaican Culture.
@HouseMusicDefined
@HouseMusicDefined 10 күн бұрын
Also, In LA I never heard the name Bob Marley until they announced on the news he died. Seriously, I was like, Who is Bob Marley?
@mansamusa9465
@mansamusa9465 12 күн бұрын
Lietinos even stole Reggaeton "Reggaeton Copyright Infringement Lawsuit Targeting Over 100 of the Genre’s Biggest Acts to Move Forward A federal judge denied the motion to dismiss the massive infringement lawsuit targeting one of Latin music's most profitable genres."
@mrwhite77781
@mrwhite77781 12 күн бұрын
And the Jamaicans don't bitch but want in on hip hop but they should be saying they created reggaeton
@thaunseencamp1009
@thaunseencamp1009 12 күн бұрын
Lord Jamar, Love you God... No Diddy! yoou been the truth been a favorite since Punks jump up! Blessed!
@alistairfannell6694
@alistairfannell6694 12 күн бұрын
Real talk
@kayadavid1037
@kayadavid1037 12 күн бұрын
I went to school in the bronx with Puerto Ricans & Dominicans Darker & the same complexion as me with the same hair texture. I'd always have to check them when they call me Black like as if it differentiated me from them. What Lord Jamar said struck a chord with me because its the same thing I was saying in the 90's. You're not Spanish, you're Spanish speaking. Just like how im an English speaking Black man. I'm not British. BTW. I am Jamaican. Been in NYC since I was 13 & while I will say we contributed since the beginning, I can't say Jamaicans INVENTED hip-hop. & when I say we helped. We helped with RAP MUSIC. Rap Music is a MUSICAL GENRE that is bi-product of a culture, a culture that existed before Jamaicans were in NY in large numbers. A culture that predates Rap music itself. I love Rap music but culturally speaking, I wouldn't describe myself as hip-hop. I like a lot of Rock music & blues too. But I am not of those cultures. Just like how I've seen Black Americans or white ppl from America to Europe loving Reggae but they are not a part of my culture. I'm not trying g to kiss ass right now. But the Black American is possibly the single most copied demographic on earth. Whatever slang a "black yanky" speaks today will be heard out the mouth of suburban white Men who work for a sports chanel or when they are telling the weather forecast on the news station next week. . & this gives them popularity.
@mrwhite77781
@mrwhite77781 12 күн бұрын
Fba chuck Berry created rock n roll and Jamaicans who grew up in fba culture in NYC had way better rappers than Puerto Ricans as a whole
@HouseMusicDefined
@HouseMusicDefined 10 күн бұрын
Respect!
@lmatruckinginc4035
@lmatruckinginc4035 12 күн бұрын
And we will do that and all of our brothers are standing on straight business about the things that our ancestors from this land we had created. Our FBA are such amazing people I'm from Memphis TN just down here alone music go so back.
@kingofallman4380
@kingofallman4380 12 күн бұрын
And our ancestors!!! Cities over 150k yrs old!!! ✊🏾🏹🪓🪶🐺
@njandrews4105
@njandrews4105 10 күн бұрын
Your not indigenous to the America’s you’re not even in every corner of this continent with a history going back more than 300 years lol 😆
@njandrews4105
@njandrews4105 10 күн бұрын
@@kingofallman4380 Your not indigenous to the America’s you’re not even in every corner of this continent with a history going back more than 300 years lol 😆
@kingofallman4380
@kingofallman4380 10 күн бұрын
@@njandrews4105 unlike yourself, my history goes back to the disappearance of those lost foreigners. How far can you go back uneducated one?
@ministerforprofitministerf1671
@ministerforprofitministerf1671 12 күн бұрын
Somebody tell Lord Jamar to read my comment do you know what this really brings light to this issue brings light to how other cultures who are in this country now would truly act if the federal government ever financially repaired through reparations what happened to Black people in America during segregation And during the civil rights fight if immigrated Melanated people can’t understand this history of hip-hop I think this exposes how they would act if black Americans received reparations. I can see them now, jumping in front of Black people in the reparations lines claiming to be black American themselves them other folks knew exactly what they were doing, when they poured other Melanated groups of people into this country after Martin Luther King spearheaded the civil rights legislative bill, they knew exactly what they were doing by opening up the floodgates to other people they even called the NAACP association for the advancement of colored people notice it says colored, not Black peopleand I digress
@Risingblksun
@Risingblksun 12 күн бұрын
Super facts
@tabathacooksey6042
@tabathacooksey6042 7 күн бұрын
The truth and facts!! Right on my brother!! Stilled listening today’s!!
@Rio-uv1gs
@Rio-uv1gs 12 күн бұрын
Jamaican last names are slave names..common names are Taylor, Campbell, Johnson, Brown, Innis, etc
@user-oq8og3nz9n
@user-oq8og3nz9n 12 күн бұрын
We still waiting for your point, dexter😂😂😂😂
@themessage6114
@themessage6114 11 күн бұрын
HERES A NAME PEOPLE DISRESPECTFULLY FORGET! Grandmaster flowers was doing it in the 60s. There were other too! They were black American. Before the 70s
@millionairemaine8901
@millionairemaine8901 12 күн бұрын
When/how did this become a topic of discussion? Like where did it come from?
@ktyler687
@ktyler687 9 күн бұрын
Thanks man .Its crazy because they trying to take Hiphop from us in LA the Mexicans they took the radio stations and took our old school music .Now they plan to take our Rap gigs they can have the N words.The tension is high.
@swood248
@swood248 12 күн бұрын
No lies told bruh
@Favoriterappersfavoriterapper_
@Favoriterappersfavoriterapper_ 12 күн бұрын
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾✊🏾
@DemontraScales
@DemontraScales 12 күн бұрын
Frfr
@thaiboxing67
@thaiboxing67 12 күн бұрын
There were a few groups that had Spanish speaking individuals in them. Fearless Four was one of them. Rocking it was a big hit in hip hop’s early days
@TheGOTDAMN1
@TheGOTDAMN1 12 күн бұрын
They were invited. Yall know better.
@mrwhite77781
@mrwhite77781 12 күн бұрын
That's 80 rap is older than that
@82Brooklyn7
@82Brooklyn7 12 күн бұрын
Salute to the 7 Lord Jamar definitely speaking facts💯💯💯
@user-lv4zx1ji6i
@user-lv4zx1ji6i 2 күн бұрын
I'm black, from Brooklyn and old enough to remember They participated in the music. From the hitmakers, of stax records and Motown. In many documentaries, these creators of the music, spoke about the Caribbean, and Latino influences to create their work. So wake up, do your homework! when people start directing you to multiple documentaries, you're going to be embarrassed! People of color have always participated in rap music.
@percyvolnar8010
@percyvolnar8010 10 күн бұрын
Anyone dissing Lord Jamar needs to look at the wall behind him and realize he contributed to the culture he is defending and has earned his right to an opinion of the culture...
@user-kd1jy6cy6f
@user-kd1jy6cy6f 12 күн бұрын
You telling the truth
@blackether5094
@blackether5094 11 күн бұрын
Salute Lord Jamar ...well articulated ✊🏽✊🏽✊🏽💎
@anthonywhitaker7455
@anthonywhitaker7455 8 күн бұрын
The question we must ask is, Why are Puerto Ricans and Jamaicans going so hard to get partial creative credit for hip hop? Black Americans' creative credit can not be questioned, but Puerto Ricans and Jamaicans creative credit is questionable. Black Americans are the common denominator in this discussion as to who created hip hop, because Hip Hop is a Black American cultural construct. The music is Black American, The slang is Black American, The dress code and style is Black American, The body and hand gesturing is Black American, The environment of the parties and jams was Black American and it was already in place and established many years ago prior to others participation. So once again, Why are Puerto Ricans and Jamaicans going so hard to get partial creative credit for hip hop? The answer is a bit deeper than simply bragging rights. It has to do with the country of America and who this country belongs to and who rightfully belongs here and whose position can not be usurped. Black Americans of all people in America hold a very unique position. Black Americans literally created the culture of America. One can go so far as to say Black Foundational Americans are the culture of America. The Blues and Jazz are considered by many to be the only true original and authentic elements of American culture, and Black Americans are solely responsible for both. Now throw Rag Time, Country, Rock-n-Roll, Funk, Soul Music, Gospel, Rhythm and Blues, disco etc Black Americans have created all of these genres. This music has traveled the world and has become synonymous with America and thereby firmly establishing Black Americans position and role in developing America. No other group can claim or challenge this fact. America presently is the crown jewel of the world, and the world desires to come here. People from Africa, Latin America, China, India, Europe, The Middle East etc all want to come and migrate to America. But also what these foreign immigrants covet is the unbreakable cultural position of Black Americans because this would grant them a stake in America, and the world wants a stake in America, the greatest nation on the planet. This is partly the cause of the hatred, jealousy and Anti-Black rhetoric directed towards Black Americans by immigrants to America. The foundation and history of America rests on and is directly tied to Black Americans. Black Americans are the only group that have been slaves on American soil and slavery produced the economic bedrock which this nation has been built on. You'll hear people say slavery has existed throughout history and has been practiced around the world, but slavery in America was different. The brutality of American chattel slavery was unspeakable. Blacks were not even allowed to read and were stripped of their history, names, language and culture. Slavery of this sort and inhumanity never existed anywhere in the world prior to the creation of America, and to compare it to previous slavery is actually an insult and another attack on trying to wrestle the cultural position away from Black Americans. Also which even greatly heightens the strength of Black Americans cultural position is that all of the forms of music was literally birthed out of the pain and suffering experienced by American slavery. Now here we are, Hip Hop is born and once again Black Americans are at the forefront of this American cultural phenomenon that has captured the entire world within its unbreakable grip. Puerto Ricans and Caribbeans were in the proximity of Black Americans in the Bronx in the 60's and 70's and realize the cultural importance of Hip Hop to America and they will stop at nothing to be a part of and claim creative credit for hip hop so as to stake claim in the greatest country the world has ever known, America. Lying, stealing and yes even outright murder is not off the table, for what they are truly seeking is of immeasurable value, so much so, and even to further prove my point, now it's to the point that all Latino's and Caribbeans Including Mexicans, Cubans, Dominicans, etc are trying to lay claim to hip Hop as partially theirs culturally and this is clearly not the case.
@spreejay24
@spreejay24 10 күн бұрын
Lord Jamar please speak it!!!
@beatsdrumming7992
@beatsdrumming7992 12 күн бұрын
Well...he's not wrong..
@Det1911
@Det1911 12 күн бұрын
At all, and I don't always agree with him
@joshuabeldo2656
@joshuabeldo2656 12 күн бұрын
💯💯💯🙏🏾🇺🇸
@jayregal6478
@jayregal6478 12 күн бұрын
COWBOY CULTURE is also BLACK culture!
@timharris1675
@timharris1675 12 күн бұрын
Yes the only thing we don't be understanding is that this "black" label is still new to us meaning they change the definition of our "race" to lie about our contributions to this earth and our true history
@DJLordShango
@DJLordShango 12 күн бұрын
Absolutely they contributed by promoting and participating in the evolution of rap . But did they actually create the concept itself???? And I’m not even fba saying this shift 🤷🏽‍♂️
@ummeshariff
@ummeshariff 11 күн бұрын
How many Hispanics or whatever you call them, rappers have there been since the creation of hip hop??
@GhosTownMusic3
@GhosTownMusic3 12 күн бұрын
#factsonly Lord
@travelwiththefullers2390
@travelwiththefullers2390 11 күн бұрын
I believe that this is an Energy that's being addressed in many different ways and levels at this time and that Lord Jamar understands this and his part in this shift to the God Energy of Truth! Well Done Fam 👍🏼
@ambfilm1188
@ambfilm1188 10 күн бұрын
Hip Hop / Jazz / Rock and Roll / Gospel / R&B / Blues / Country music all started by FBA people. We will NOT let these others lay claim to Hip Hop like they did all the other musical genres (We) FBA’s created.
@sirmalikone1520
@sirmalikone1520 9 күн бұрын
Peace and prosperity to All Hiphop Citizens Worldwide! Especially to Lord Jamar and everyone who engage for the benefit of HipHop people, everywhere. HipHop as a shared experience, is inclusive. The practitioners who pioneered HipHop is unquestionable. My goal is to be more clear where using KRS’ words to suggest anything contrary to the truth about “who” created, popularized and advanced Emceein, deejayin, graffiti, beatboxin, Breakin, language, fashion, knowledge, entrepreneurship. Caz, Cold Crush, Herc, Flash etc. So there’s no debate about who created, established etc. However, the inclusivity developed, the common spirit developed, the collective, now known and recognized as culture. So with that shared experience transferable contributions were developed. Breakin. An accepted foundational element of HipHop. Was in fact developed through various cultures, forms and arts. Martial Arts, copoiera, West African dances, etc. Some of which were Brazilian, Cuban, Puerto Rican and African. There is a difference between who created, mastered and perfected and those who came after. So by virtue, there is no debate. Especially with KRS.
@deanivan3951
@deanivan3951 11 күн бұрын
The Truth Hurts!
@mannysavage88
@mannysavage88 12 күн бұрын
💪🏾🇺🇸
@Rio-uv1gs
@Rio-uv1gs 12 күн бұрын
People aren't upset about FBA creating hiphop its the retheroic that comes with like other blacks and latins have no creativity of their own, or we learned everything from fba like we can't create..What is weird is the majority of fba will crown Eminem as the king of hiphop but have so much negative words to say about first generation Caribbean and latinos who are American..its very interesting
@uptownbladebrown
@uptownbladebrown 12 күн бұрын
No majority of Black Americans have never and will never crown eminem. What FBA is saying is yall arent creating within your own cultures at the level we're creating within ours. Plus yall assimilate into our culture and use our culture to create art then try to claim our culture as your own. Thats not going to fly, yall participate in our culture but it isnt yours.
@jerzydevoos5413
@jerzydevoos5413 12 күн бұрын
Idk what you want people to do. Black Americans can say the same things abt Caribbeans and their rhetoric towards Americans. And this Eminem statement sounds ridiculous lol stop it
@LOU1982
@LOU1982 12 күн бұрын
The only people crowning Eminem as a king of hip hop are immigrants and white boys. 😂
@mrwhite77781
@mrwhite77781 12 күн бұрын
No blacks don't crown em I never heard a black playing em in the hood personally
@ummeshariff
@ummeshariff 11 күн бұрын
So what did y'all create?? I'll give Jamaicans a pass because they are actually black just from another Island. But the Spanish speaking people that look White and mixed, what did y'all create??
@marklawrence76
@marklawrence76 12 күн бұрын
New Subscriber. Keep the videos coming
@HallWayGang
@HallWayGang 12 күн бұрын
It's not so much about what was introduced into Hip Hop culture, but more about the added contributions, especially in the realms of breakdancing and graffiti. Jamaicans and Puerto Ricans have definitely infused style and elevated the culture. But let's not get it twisted. Hip Hop is Black culture.
@JoeCoopNagaXCoop
@JoeCoopNagaXCoop 12 күн бұрын
KRS ONE ADMITS WHEN HE MAKES MISTAKES THO. HE REPS THIS SHIT TO THE FULLEST. HAS OVER 20 ALBUMS MAN. WROTE A HIP HOP BIBLE AND THERE'S A VID TALKING ABOUT WHERE HE GOT PARTS WRONG. ✊🏾
@jerzydevoos5413
@jerzydevoos5413 12 күн бұрын
Infused what style tho, is the question
@HallWayGang
@HallWayGang 12 күн бұрын
@@jerzydevoos5413 Remember this: Check out Rock Steady Crazy Legs, check out Tats Crew. Learn your history.
@ummeshariff
@ummeshariff 11 күн бұрын
​@@jerzydevoos5413nothing
@elnumerico8444
@elnumerico8444 11 күн бұрын
Knowledge Reigns Supreme Over Nearly Everybody, except the haters who will always allow the enemy to divide and conquer us! Right, Lord Jamar....
@MentalPistol
@MentalPistol 12 күн бұрын
I agree with some of Jamar is saying but I just wanna say... Tthis man is in NY. Our popular, or "urban" stations have been playing NUFF international music in spanish and other languages for at least 5 years now. Our experience as blacks in America is changing man. Shit is much bigger than two sets of blacks arguing over who created what 50 years ago, while the wyatt and the jeu pull all the strings to that in realtime. Stay vigilant yall.
@ummeshariff
@ummeshariff 11 күн бұрын
See now this says why they are really arguing. Been telling these people they were black for years and now it's like y'all are switching up.
@jerzydevoos5413
@jerzydevoos5413 12 күн бұрын
Ayo we still say “why you dressed like a puerto rican? All them colors on”😂😂😂😅😅
@dawnayewing6759
@dawnayewing6759 12 күн бұрын
Who is we??
@jerzydevoos5413
@jerzydevoos5413 12 күн бұрын
@@dawnayewing6759 … folks i know
@ummeshariff
@ummeshariff 11 күн бұрын
I heard they use to dress like the rainbow 🌈
@chadalahio8266
@chadalahio8266 10 күн бұрын
Truth be told, Puerto Ricans may have embellished some history and said there was unity, but haven’t ever denied the black American roots. It’s the Jamaican and Basian cats that said the ish came from Jamaica. They low key jumped out of the window and said it came from The Carribean; not the PR’s.
@majorchutzpah7265
@majorchutzpah7265 10 күн бұрын
I never heard a Puerto Rican say they invented Hip Hop!
@PapaDuck360
@PapaDuck360 12 күн бұрын
It’s embarrassing that we have to even have these conversations. Everyone knows we created hip hop. The fact we have to even debate this matter is asinine.
@fatherfire4343
@fatherfire4343 12 күн бұрын
Yo, we keep starting the Kultures story with music. The music is the "Having Fun" part. Peace,Unity,Love, and then safely having fun. And we cant have Peace, Unity, or Love without establishing Freedom Justice and Equality. Who brought that bold and courageous spirit to The Bronx in the 70's ? What really happened ?
@nicolethompson1515
@nicolethompson1515 12 күн бұрын
FBA 💯❤️
@alforte155
@alforte155 12 күн бұрын
People hate the truth...can't open the doors for everyone they will eat all your food...
@israellomeli595
@israellomeli595 10 күн бұрын
VICO C!!!! From PUERTO RICO
@wayofthekodiak3118
@wayofthekodiak3118 12 күн бұрын
Lord Jamar is the definition of old man yells at cloud.
@coldsholda
@coldsholda 9 күн бұрын
Break dancing was Puerto Rican graffiti was white Hiphop is NYC CULTURE
@mykchek7
@mykchek7 12 күн бұрын
The Puerto Ricans and Jamaicans were just SPECTATORS of our art then!!
@ummeshariff
@ummeshariff 11 күн бұрын
And and they are still spectators to this day
@sirgodblackman8530
@sirgodblackman8530 4 күн бұрын
THE MERRY-GO-ROUND KOOL HERC
@meyou5789
@meyou5789 8 күн бұрын
Only thing we can claim is Nuwaupu.
@jerzydevoos5413
@jerzydevoos5413 12 күн бұрын
This seems like the part 2 not 3
@BigKeefTV
@BigKeefTV 10 күн бұрын
Hip Hop is black American culture only, I do NOT agree with the Spanish, Jamaicans, or any other none Black American culture had nothing to do with Hip Hop. Graffiti in my opinion isn't Hip Hop in my eyes, that's graffiti not music.
@ray1411
@ray1411 12 күн бұрын
Grand Puba is Caribbean
@brooklynstudent73
@brooklynstudent73 12 күн бұрын
Puba is half-Black American and half-Caribbean.
@timharris1675
@timharris1675 12 күн бұрын
He whatever his daddy is
@KannaBlissLLC
@KannaBlissLLC 10 күн бұрын
Hip Hop Life Style belongs to Black Americans. We've allowed others to come visit but ut seems overstaying their visit is affecting their reality.
@bknzty
@bknzty 12 күн бұрын
IF U ACTUALLY HAVE AN EAR FOR BLACK MUSIC HISTORICLY...I TRULY BLEEV THAT RAPPING ORIGINATED UNKNOWINGLY N THAT SKAT BACK JAZZ ERA💯...
@lovememoremeticulous4378
@lovememoremeticulous4378 12 күн бұрын
Black American adults hated Hip-Hop. They was riding right along w/whites, had a whole argument with my dad early 90s about it.
@360will7
@360will7 12 күн бұрын
They didn't hate music they hated the behavior associated with hip hop
@jerzydevoos5413
@jerzydevoos5413 12 күн бұрын
And most Chinese don’t practice Kung Fu, still Chinese culture
@stone5578
@stone5578 12 күн бұрын
@@360will7 hip hop was positive when it came out . they didn't like it cause they thought it wasn't real music cause of the sampling and scratching of the turntables
@LOU1982
@LOU1982 12 күн бұрын
@@jerzydevoos5413💯💯
@lovememoremeticulous4378
@lovememoremeticulous4378 10 күн бұрын
@@360will7 Na they hated it, dislike it, and systematically tried to downplay it. FunkFlex talks about the radio programming early. It wasn’t until mid 90s when Russell and DefJam and largely Suge Knight & Puffy and a generation of executives made it more digestible and why is that? They were shrewd executives/businessmen on the business side. Adult black Americans still looked at it funny but had no choice but to accept it cause their children begin to listen and Hip-Hop started to change corporate America.
@knighthawkt.k.4648
@knighthawkt.k.4648 12 күн бұрын
Krs1 is the same dude that said Africa Bambatta should be untouchable because he's a forefather of HipHop when the Molestations allegations came out to the public 🤔😔😔
@edcastilla7530
@edcastilla7530 12 күн бұрын
he didnt say that.. at all... as someone who disagrees with lots of what krs says as of late.... thats not what he says. its improtant to understand the layers. and details of someones point. so you are not disgreeing with a point they are not actually making.
@knighthawkt.k.4648
@knighthawkt.k.4648 12 күн бұрын
@@edcastilla7530 uhhh yes he did
@knighthawkt.k.4648
@knighthawkt.k.4648 12 күн бұрын
@@edcastilla7530 watch the video with Poppie and Doggie Diamonds Hassan has on a red shirt in this interview. If I'm wrong about the shirt color. Excuse Me💙💙
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