Deviate nitro 2 is a TOP TIER cruiser in my opinion especially after it broke in! It does great on trails too. Highly recommend the DN2 on sale if you can get it for easy/steady/long runs
@Fozzee.19704 ай бұрын
How long to break in? I've done about 20km in mine and i hate them. The midfoot is dead.
@Crose464 ай бұрын
@@Fozzee.1970 I think it was around the 30k-40k mark. I land on my midfoot and hated them at first as well but then cushioning up front came alive
@pana1253 ай бұрын
😊
@BillyBobJoeSnr3 ай бұрын
Last week took a pair of DN2 for sub-2 hour half and they were nice and easy on my feet. The plate is very subtle so doesn't feel like it's pushing you to go faster.
@MarianoUrbina4 ай бұрын
If you're undecided between these two options, consider purchasing both; you won't regret it. Both shoes are great on rainy conditions. Best all around trainers, The only training session I won't include with these shoes are the Sunday long runs.
@atlasthegracious4 ай бұрын
Coming from a quite rough winter here in Scandinavia. The Deviate Nitro 2 has been great for snowy and icy conditions with its grippy outsole. Also good upper hold. Have used mostly for uptempo work and intervals. Now after 200+ miles I will try to rotate in the Boston 12 as successor. Not loving the feel after the first couple of runs. Upper is quite difficult to like, either gets it too tight or too loose. Midsole a bit clunky. But hopefully it will become better after some more miles. Only have around 10 miles this far on them. Keep up the great work with your channel!
@justoutlaw64234 ай бұрын
I have both. DN2 much comfortable, especially for easy running but you can do intervals in it. B12 is not good at all for slower paces, upper is stiff, uncomfortable, ticker socks are mandatory. If you are forefoot striker B12 would work wonders for you. B12 is just not a good long run shoe for me and i use it for fast stuff.
@remcodejong91494 ай бұрын
Completely agree. Love it for faster paces, but going slow in the Boston 12 is torture.
@captaincaveman94112 ай бұрын
B12 just wanna run fast! I can never run slow in it. DN2 is definitely the more chill of the 2 shoes. Love both of them.
@kye4554 ай бұрын
Love the devaite such a good shoe . I've put 150 miles on mine, and there's no visible wear at all . I've run in the snow and rain and had no issues with traction, and they always seem to be on sale, so there deffo a bargain really good shoe
@paulmulks4 ай бұрын
I sold my Boston 12's and purchased the Deviate Nitro 2 and boy was that the right decision 👌🏻 I personally don't get the hype behind the Boston because I just found it bang average. The Puma for me is just better all round 😊
@davidmcquade47434 ай бұрын
I bought a pair of Deviate Nitro 2s and Velocity Nitros 2s for $40 each. Amazing deal. I have over 30 miles on the Velocity 2s and they show wear on the lateral heel side too. And no treadmill runs. The rest of the outsole looks brand new.
@supwell4 ай бұрын
Amazing deal! Was that the one at Ross or did you snag somewhere else?
@davidmcquade47434 ай бұрын
@@supwell it was. I was very lucky to have a nearby Ross carry them and get them in my size. I’m hoping they’ll also get a shipment of the Magnify or Forevers.
@davidmcquade47434 ай бұрын
In fairness to the lateral heel wear on Pumas… it seems like Adidas didn’t put any tread on that same spot. I know my Adizero SLs are smooth in that place.
@haroholic4 ай бұрын
Wet test- genius!
@jvmoony4 ай бұрын
I have both. And I agree with your thoughts about those two shoes.
@pseudoty4 ай бұрын
DN2 is my go to for when it is raining.
@Klian1594 ай бұрын
🤣that wet grip test was too funny!
@supwell4 ай бұрын
Hahaha I appreciate you! Btw you'll be happy to know my sleep average for the last 7 days is exactly 7:00 hours 💪🏽 banking those Zs for the marathon
@em0haircutx4 ай бұрын
Can’t speak for the Deviate Nitro, but it started raining pretty hard during my early morning run today and the Boston 12 had me feeling quite confident on the road.
@jonb9194Ай бұрын
I recently got a pair of DN2's and really like them. I do very poorly with big rocker designs, as my calfs activate very late and with more focus than most runners. One look at the Boston 12 with very little foam under the toe and I know it wouldn't work for me. While the plate isn't very noticeable in the DN2, the forefoot cushioning and rocker design works very well.
@kuriosites4 ай бұрын
Agree with the DN2 assessment. I think the grip is also the rubber compound because even at 600 miles, it still grips pretty well on wet ground. I used it for my first solo 1/2 Marathon and it's not quite as cushioned as I'd like for that distance. Also, I agree about plated vs. non-plated in that the DN2 doesn't feel more snappy than the Novablast 3. I think Novablast 3 was a little faster for 10K paces for me. I was looking at the outsole on my original Energy Boost shoes with Continental rubber and the outsole is not done after about 1,000 miles. I think durability has to go to Continental. I'm curious to see you get more miles on the Craft Pacer. That shoe is $135 on RW.
@supwell4 ай бұрын
Wow those durability numbers are wild - that's great to hear
@MedicineRunner4 ай бұрын
7:42 haha yessir, I think everyone will be here for that one 🍿 Just hit 100 miles on my nitro velocity 3s and I’ve abused that shoe in every terrain and weather possible. I’m literally trying to get it to show signs of wear and I can’t lol.
@haroholic4 ай бұрын
Quite different experience for me as a forefoot/midfoot/depends on the shoe type striker, puma just a bit firm for relaxed running, fine but not great, very nice for uptempo work, also like sprinting in it. Boston feel similar in description but a bit different on foot, definitely makes me want to go harder like I can't wait to take off when I wear the bostons. Pretty great for something that walks normal, I love the design as well, casual Boston has been rocked in the past.
@charlesthorn65064 ай бұрын
you should try the doctors of running type reviews as they do sub 2 type reviews along with their hour long insightful podcasts reviews. Helps to spice it up, love the content tho your long vids are the best for not paying attention in class.
@supwell4 ай бұрын
thanks! btw check out the @supwellrunning instagram - i've been putting shorter writeups there for some of the shoes
@timobrien2564 ай бұрын
These are my two go to training shoes. I alternate between them and occasionally throw in the endorphin 3s for longer runs. I run 30 to 40 per week 3 to for days as part of my triathlon training. Both shoes go well over 300 miles. I haven’t run in the nitro 2s….just the 1s because pumas are impossible to find in running stores in the USA where you can try them on against other training shoes. That’s how I got into the 12s (trying them on at running store) because I was looking for a good alternative to the 1s which used to be carried by the Boulder Running Company where I was able to actually try them on.
@captlove87883 ай бұрын
I really fall in Love with both Puma DN2 and DNE2 design esthetics, and have tried very hard to make (either of) them work as my tempo/interval training shoes. However I failed, due for some reason both my heels seem to always “fallen off” the medial side of these lovely looking shoes inward. Same thing happen when I tried to test run with Adizero Takumi Sen 10, which would’ve been another awesome tempo/interval training shoes, had it not been for the same heel fallen inward thing.
@deshkanagrikhoon4 ай бұрын
The WTR Puma deviate Nitro is about 25 grams heavier it seems from the regular version .My puma Deviate Nitro 2 regular weighs around 243 grams in Men's UK 7
@theghostofpcs23914 ай бұрын
After reading your post, I also weighed mine. The regular vs WTR is 235 vs 251 gram in my women's EU 40. I do have to say that my WTR version looks completely different than Yowana's pair. Mine are black with a kind of triangle pattern (similar to the gore-tex version of the velocity 2), and the Nitro Elite foam is covered with some kind of fabric.
@davidg91204 ай бұрын
Was at the adidas outlet today and still have the Boston 12 for 80 and the SL for 60 plus tax. Basically 50% off original price
@AdventureAwaits9722 ай бұрын
As an older runner with tons of mileage, a few years ago ... I started experiencing a sharp pain in the balls of one of my feet. I decided to switch exclusively to carbon-plated running shoes. The pain has been nonexistent ever since ... For some reason, non-carbon-plated running shoes ...with great cushion ... do not seem as protective. Before making the switch, I was a huge fan of New Balance ... ASICS ... Mizuno I am pain-free now ... for some carbarn-plates are worth it ... even if the science says there is a downside
@supwell2 ай бұрын
Glad to hear the carbon plates helped the pain go away - I hope you love the Diadora Garas coming your way!
@AdventureAwaits9722 ай бұрын
@@supwell My Gara Carbons are great. I got them in last week. My first run was a light 4 miler ... because I was sore after a good yoga glass. ...about to take them out for another spin. So far, based on the initial run, they have been great ... definitely more cushiony than the Saucony
@maverickgoose46794 ай бұрын
love mine for easy runs!
@deshkanagrikhoon4 ай бұрын
I have two Puma Velocity Nitro 2 shoes with different colors and Puma Grip has worn out differently in both of them. The one with lesser kilometers is worn out much quicker. Infact the upper varies greatly in terms of the material between different color with same model and Puma still gives them the same model name.
@31_pandeputuarymahendra584 ай бұрын
agree
@joaoqrafael4 ай бұрын
Which color is better between the ones you have?
@theghostofpcs23914 ай бұрын
Did one of them happen to be a 'First mile' version? Those have uppers from recycled plastic.
@haroholic4 ай бұрын
The under the radar dark horse hidden gem kofuzi shoe of the year 2023, the puma deviate nitro 2, sounds weird, still true
@Fozzee.19704 ай бұрын
Except its not under the radar. Virtually every shoetuber has highlighted it. Doesn't work for me though.
@haroholic4 ай бұрын
Exactly! It's the kind of under the radar that shows us that shoetubing can be a growth sector, every shoetuber reccomends it but people don't buy it irl. @@Fozzee.1970
@klipschs4 ай бұрын
What would u recommend for long +2hrs run, marathon distance, with some support for pronation when leg is feeling weaker closer to end of the run, and for hot weather. 3 criterias :) is Boston 12 the answer? See a lot in YT saying nimbus or triumph..?
@supwell4 ай бұрын
My top pick would be new balance sc trainer v2 - it's more comfortable than the Boston 12 but with a bouncier midsole set up than the triumph or nimbus. If you want non plated the triumph is a good choice but it's not as stable
@tuckertech4 ай бұрын
I haven’t run in either of these but great content as always! I think I’m pretty set on running shoes for the spring/summer. I bought some Clifton 9’s and my wallet said done! (For now 😉
@supwell4 ай бұрын
Hahaha I feel that. Well let me know what else you want to see on the channel besides shoes ... I'm hoping to bring more training insights after my race
@tuckertech4 ай бұрын
@@supwell definitely training info. How a newbie/beginner runner could potentially set up training for their first 5k/10k. So many training videos focus on marathon training but everyone has to start somewhere.
@supwell4 ай бұрын
@@tuckertechI love that idea
@reginaldgonzales4 ай бұрын
DN2 is superb shoe if it’s fit well on you. Better to find wide version if you have wide feet. This shoe is a hell narrow.
@MrSiwydym4 ай бұрын
The wider Version is still narrow. You get only more upper
@nicksantos75864 ай бұрын
good evening brotha
@mattc233712 күн бұрын
Would I be good to run a marathon in the Boston 12?
@johnnygarr64 ай бұрын
DN2 gave me heel injury. Replaced with B12.
@Charles-kc2vt4 ай бұрын
Do you have any particular thoughts on Under Armour shoes? Don't see too many reviews of them 🤔
@supwell4 ай бұрын
I haven't tried any under armour shoes yet but they are on the list!
@mheliantanedo30622 ай бұрын
How does the Nitro 2 compare to Rebel v4?
@TOMTOM-bn5hz4 ай бұрын
The best daddy ever!!!😄😁
@romuelgorvymadraga17933 ай бұрын
Hi. May I know what's that book for your training?
@supwell3 ай бұрын
The running formula by Jack daniels!
@TheKzwai2 ай бұрын
How's the puma vs novablast 4 for a slow runner?
@supwell2 ай бұрын
Novablast 4 is more forgiving and stable for me when running at slower paces. So if you're looking for something comfortable for more relaxed runs I'd go Novablast. If you want something for faster running relative to your own paces I'd go with the puma - nice and bouncy for faster running. It's not the most stable though