PUNISH SOFT INTERS + SWARM SECRETS! | The Dive Driven by Kia

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Күн бұрын

Hello and welcome back to another episode of The Dive Driven by Kia! Kobe, Azael, and Meteos discuss their fourth of July breaks, soft inting, and punishments toxic players should face in League. Then the guys are joined by Sope May, the Product Lead for Swarm and ask him every question about the new game mode!
Week 4 of the LCS will be back on July 20th at 1PM PT/4PM ET where DIG takes on TL, but there will still be episodes of The Dive next week. Thanks for tuning in, and catch you all next week!
Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro, July 4th break recap, and Elden Ring
8:03 - Soft inting
13:29 - What is soft inting & League toxicity
24:51 - Red side/blue side advantage/punishments in League
38:45 - Quick break/Intro Sope May, Swarm Product Lead
39:44 - What were the goals with Swarm?
41:43 - Can you play Swarm solo?
43:37 - Was visual clutter a concern?
47:34 - How do you measure success with Swarm?
49:17 - Champ mechanics
50:15 - How long will beating the game take?
51:46 - Any tips or tricks?
54:16 - Champ breakdowns & character builds in Swarm
1:04:44 - What’s next for the Dev Team?
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@Kojakesh99
@Kojakesh99 21 күн бұрын
Dont let this banger episode distract you from the fact that Meteos did, in fact, stand up Kobe on their plans to watch Dune 2 in cinema.
@stephendinkler9851
@stephendinkler9851 21 күн бұрын
Pin this man. Never forget.
@botbadger
@botbadger 21 күн бұрын
Meteos no ;_; 🚨🚨DRAMA ALERT🚨🚨
@soru_-_
@soru_-_ 21 күн бұрын
yea but did you see his new haircut! 🔥🔥🔥
@NickBender
@NickBender 21 күн бұрын
People don’t forget!
@LBUKid01
@LBUKid01 21 күн бұрын
Kobe's laugh when Azael said Poo-Poo Lasers was from the soul man.
@Bigbakes1526
@Bigbakes1526 21 күн бұрын
This might be one of my favorite Dive moments! That energy is contagious.
@xOscarAx
@xOscarAx 19 күн бұрын
time stamp?
@LBUKid01
@LBUKid01 19 күн бұрын
​@xOscarAx first time stamp in the video description actually
@SerYordles
@SerYordles 21 күн бұрын
Everyone needs a friend like Kobe! Knows that Meteos accomplished a personal goal but was too humble/didn't think it was big enough to talk about and brings it up for him.
@r0flcopter
@r0flcopter 21 күн бұрын
Time stamp?
@fathead1616
@fathead1616 20 күн бұрын
​@@r0flcopter @3:00
@hyoketsuenjoyer
@hyoketsuenjoyer 21 күн бұрын
Meteos has really improved his speaking skills / expressing himself in an articulate manner - feels much smoother than previous episodes. Kudos!
@EasyCakes6771
@EasyCakes6771 21 күн бұрын
Yeah he has! That's what he was working on when he dodged Dune 2 with Kobe. 😅
@blueleaftuber
@blueleaftuber 21 күн бұрын
Thumbs up for "survivorship bias" 👍
@davidmducc
@davidmducc 21 күн бұрын
I'm glad he's talking more, that was kinda my complaints about him being on here but I'm glad he improved :)
@32juan
@32juan 20 күн бұрын
Yeah his English has gotten really good
@ASSASSIN79100
@ASSASSIN79100 21 күн бұрын
The soft inting thing reminds me of Meteos's 1-27 Brand game.
@Airsicktitan
@Airsicktitan 21 күн бұрын
We've gone full circle with going back to Tribunal review, lol, that's the only way to know fully if someone is 'soft' inting.
@reginaldwent2321
@reginaldwent2321 21 күн бұрын
meteos barber is grand theft stealing paychecks with that job
@atrain-wr9je
@atrain-wr9je 21 күн бұрын
The soft inting ban thing won't be easy. Hard inters dont get banned half the time. Quasi afkers who just afk farm or even just walk in and out of fountain dont get banned. It will be real hard to detect.
@josephharty5048
@josephharty5048 21 күн бұрын
Soft inting is so subjective and impossible to actually define. I am with Kobe
@HOLLOWKILLER514
@HOLLOWKILLER514 21 күн бұрын
well said.
@gregpartridge7554
@gregpartridge7554 21 күн бұрын
Agreed. It could be hard to tell for sure even with manual review whether a player is soft inting, or disagreeing with their team about the best strategy but still trying to win, or just having a bad game (especially at lower ranks). I think it would be completely impossible to do automatically.
@Stomaia87
@Stomaia87 21 күн бұрын
While true, and how far they take it will be interesting, for now they've clarified they're looking at things like following the jungler and stealing camps. Things that haven't historically been automatically trackable and aren't hard inting, and by that definition fall under soft inting...for now. So I'm ok with the current new things they're adding to the automated system, but wary if it goes too far.
@rynejones8513
@rynejones8513 20 күн бұрын
Same. If Riot are going to use this vanguard bs to start hardware banning then I will just stop playing league. Its not that good.
@Dwhizzle
@Dwhizzle 21 күн бұрын
New drinking game: Everytime Kobe says “These types of things” take a shot. Edit: I died from alcohol poisoning
@ValtronHK
@ValtronHK 21 күн бұрын
Hypothetically, if Riot decides to ban people for soft inting retroactively, Meteos will get banned.
@999dawnfm
@999dawnfm 21 күн бұрын
soft inting has been going on for YEARS. and it’s sad that we finally getting a discussion about it when the player base in NA is the lowest it’s ever been. reason why i quit the game is 9/10 games someone gets petty to the point where they will stop trying to win the game because they’re upset at their own teammate for bullshit
@MrAlihassanein
@MrAlihassanein 21 күн бұрын
Yeah, and the worst part is it often still ruins the game even when the problematic person is on the other team. I quit league when I was about to queue and I literally thought “I’m probably not gonna enjoy this at all, and I’ll feel empty after”. Could also be that the game in general outstayed its welcome for me, but I think the constant tantrums and soft inting didn’t help.
@999dawnfm
@999dawnfm 21 күн бұрын
@@MrAlihassanein think the older i got the less time i got to play and the less games i got and that just meant that even the few games i got, every game was filled with inters on either side and there’s just no escape
@ovs4744
@ovs4744 21 күн бұрын
@@999dawnfmpeople didn’t quit league in NA because of soft inters lmao
@999dawnfm
@999dawnfm 21 күн бұрын
@@ovs4744 re read my comment
@rivv4902
@rivv4902 20 күн бұрын
You have to double as a therapist while playing this game lmao
@bornwithanak440
@bornwithanak440 21 күн бұрын
Thank you for keeping this podcast going during the break! Even just talking about the game of league, I still love tuning in
@HienLeGia
@HienLeGia 21 күн бұрын
Cool episode, definitely makes me want to tune in whenever the LCS is back😂
@theJoelness
@theJoelness 21 күн бұрын
ive come across more toxicity in WoW Mythic+ Dungeons than I have in League. I am also in Iron/bronze so i probably just havent seen a whole lot of inting since we are all bad lol
@jacobsum123
@jacobsum123 21 күн бұрын
only at 16:00 in the video so idk if they mention this, maybe a good punishment for people "soft inting" could be to ban them from playing ranked? it could be like how CS does it where it scales from 24 hours, 3 days, a week, etc.? its just hard to really classify what "soft inting" is when people could genuinely be clueless about the game or just misplay.
@DarkSlimeSera
@DarkSlimeSera 21 күн бұрын
The problem with this is that smurfs exist so it doesn't really stop the behavior.
@incelwincel
@incelwincel 21 күн бұрын
what an INSANELY good episode
@kayleeanderson1713
@kayleeanderson1713 21 күн бұрын
Love the dive!
@BaconGale
@BaconGale 21 күн бұрын
Did not expect Clint Stevens to be brought up here of all places lmao
@saintsataniko2116
@saintsataniko2116 21 күн бұрын
Punish Soft Inters, but what to do about a HARD INTER like Bwipo?
@eargandonaa
@eargandonaa 21 күн бұрын
Banger episode! 😍 the soft inting and dodgers were the reason that made me leave the game a few months ago, i just play my 5 placement keep gold+, get skin. leave the game again, or only play aram, champ select its a torture. The last second dodge, omg, hate those guys! 😂😂
@Chubbysquirrel8
@Chubbysquirrel8 21 күн бұрын
Meteos on the dive let's go!
@zacharyfaulkner9978
@zacharyfaulkner9978 21 күн бұрын
I’d listen to the dive even if LCS wasn’t a thing. I just like listening to y’all
@TooTallDesk
@TooTallDesk 21 күн бұрын
Being able to default chat to party only is the best gift riot has ever given junglers
@Stomaia87
@Stomaia87 21 күн бұрын
While I might acknowledge others are better, Brotato is my favorite Bullet Heaven.
@SteefPip
@SteefPip 21 күн бұрын
Azael has the right idea, I muted all chat back in 2012 when I first started playing and have never turned it back on since.
@AwkwardPain
@AwkwardPain 21 күн бұрын
as someone who doesn't usually expand my games that I play... You made me excited to at least try swarm!
@faveology
@faveology 21 күн бұрын
If they do it at a hardware level, it will decrease the soft inters by a drastic margin. Most soft inters aren't smart enough to solve it or won't want to bother solving it. Just like when they cracked down on scripting. It decreased scripting significantly. Nothing is 100%, but any decrease at all is better than doing nothing
@jeffreyhoffman1220
@jeffreyhoffman1220 21 күн бұрын
What if instead of banning people, each time a player soft ints they get points added to a hidden weight and the higher that weight is the more likely you are to get placed with people who also have a high weight. Slowly they'll be moved out of games with people who try and are respectful, but they can still play the game the way the want, but only with people who want to play the same toxic way. And if they have an epiphany and start to play better perhaps their number could go down and they could rejoin polite society.
@atrain-wr9je
@atrain-wr9je 21 күн бұрын
That sounds good except also ban the inters
@dealbreakerc
@dealbreakerc 19 күн бұрын
Prisoner island systems like that just don't work
@DBasedAlex
@DBasedAlex 21 күн бұрын
Love how they reiterate the fact that if you’re normal, you have nothing to worry about. I’ve played over a decade and I get mad, I flame, I troll, but I’ve never gotten banned or chat restricted. It takes a lot to get you there and if you’re genuinely worried then maybe you are soft inting more than you think
@SubsidingBird2
@SubsidingBird2 21 күн бұрын
No discussion on ewc? Was looking forward to them talk about tl and fly quest there.
@aleckraynick5669
@aleckraynick5669 21 күн бұрын
There’s a player I consistently run in to (I’m extremely low elo) and he always types “only I decide who wins this game” and will either 1v9 or soft int it’s so weird to see happen because he actually does it EVERY TIME I think riot needs to limit how much one singular player can negatively impact the game? Dunno if that’s possible
@gibson8686
@gibson8686 20 күн бұрын
Can't wait to continue getting banned by 5k dmg adcs, 3 kp junglers, and first time champ mids because I'm trying to create a competitive game against an enemy team with a team that is not competitive and die a lot because of it
@colinhendry6116
@colinhendry6116 21 күн бұрын
16:55 That's Clint "Isn't league for angry people?" Stevens. That's quality
@thecanadiankiwibirb4512
@thecanadiankiwibirb4512 21 күн бұрын
The goal of Leauge is to get farm, get kills, get vision or get objectives. A player can easily soft int by only participating in one of these tasks in a game, because they then aren't trying to bring their full value to their team and therefore make losing far more likely. But, since they are still doing *something* they don't get banned.
@spike2439
@spike2439 20 күн бұрын
I agree about soft inting. It's complicated and a lot of factors go into trying to objectively identify it to hand out hardware bans. I think a good baseline is to factor in the person's historical punishments and reports they've received.
@SerYordles
@SerYordles 21 күн бұрын
I wonder if in regards to the red/blue side abuse for lp gain....maybe they need to make the time penalty for dodging longer with a larger exponential growth for successive dodges per day instead of just dodges in a row. They would have to take into account people taking troll picks/summoner spells to try and force others to dodge but that could be taken into consideration with the soft inting problem.
@aprildempster9441
@aprildempster9441 21 күн бұрын
That Adc/support scenario legit happens so often as an Adc main this shit is on my last nerve and im going to jungle
@LL43216
@LL43216 21 күн бұрын
I love playing ADC champs but I refuse to play a 2v2 lane it’s just too much for my teeny tiny brain and I cannot trust rando supports to be on the same page as me ever
@1638whatsuphello
@1638whatsuphello 21 күн бұрын
Support perspective here. If I am buying space, winning trades, and I identify that you can’t cs in an efficient manner with a heavy advantage. I will straight up leave you in an attempt to bring my CC and vision control to a player that gives us a higher chance of winning.
@Speeds_Gaming_Corner
@Speeds_Gaming_Corner 21 күн бұрын
@@1638whatsuphello adc main here. When my support dies level 1 to a blitzcrank hook, comes back to lane, dies level 1 to a blitzcrank hook. Comes back and dies level 2 to a blitzcrank hook while I'm level 3/level 4 and leaves, I'm not sure what space they bought me.
@rynejones8513
@rynejones8513 20 күн бұрын
​@@1638whatsuphelloyeah and if my ADC is missing CS then I'm going to start taking some.
@NumberOneBlitz
@NumberOneBlitz 20 күн бұрын
Never surrender. You don't get to say I'm holding you hostage when your the one soft Inting
@attackonhumby
@attackonhumby 21 күн бұрын
i agree with azael more than kobe about the aggressiveness of punishments. if you incrementally increase punishment people adapt. if you go hard people stop BECAUSE it’s so serious.
@swervbe
@swervbe 21 күн бұрын
Kobe the voice of reason
@KingSMOrcthe9th
@KingSMOrcthe9th 16 күн бұрын
Kobe for sure is NOT paranoid from soft int’n bans because he’s a completely above board type of stand up player…. 😂😂😂
@raymondandsweetheart7150
@raymondandsweetheart7150 21 күн бұрын
Every time meteos talks about soft inting. I think about meteos brand game the 0-25 what a game. I ran it down once and I only got to 18 before the game ended.
@PhyrexianPraetor
@PhyrexianPraetor 21 күн бұрын
Why isn't anyone mentioning that they replaced meteos with Jensen
@kylesmeltzer8045
@kylesmeltzer8045 21 күн бұрын
4 out of 21 games were soft inters that I remember from the last 2 weeks. Probably more of these were soft inting, but I didn't notice as much because it didn't affect my lane, etc.
@joshuacharles7769
@joshuacharles7769 21 күн бұрын
Where is the discussion on TL this past weekend????
@TOGS355
@TOGS355 21 күн бұрын
They are pretending like EWC doesnt exist
@joshuacharles7769
@joshuacharles7769 21 күн бұрын
@@TOGS355 We had TL 2-0 FNC and then take a game off SKT. This should be discussed....
@midgevong41
@midgevong41 21 күн бұрын
@@joshuacharles7769 The tourny is too controversial, it's just not worth it
@fernandoarrieta2364
@fernandoarrieta2364 20 күн бұрын
its sucks how much this podcast influences the community. Since they mentioned soft inting I have gotten soft inted 2 out of the last 3 games
@ryderthibault8893
@ryderthibault8893 21 күн бұрын
With the soft inting first thing they would need to do is look at yummi the champ itself is soft inting
@TheJodalorn
@TheJodalorn 21 күн бұрын
Kobe's take on soft inting is 100% spot on. The way in which they are able to "detect" soft inting in game and roll out punishments is going to be massively important. How the hell are you going to ban someone for soft inting, let's say in iron and bronze elo, when 99% of games play out in a constant state of non-optimal play due to players just simply not being that good? I can foresee this system rolling out bans for a lot of these casual/normal players it's seeking to protect.
@TwitchIlluminati
@TwitchIlluminati 21 күн бұрын
Yooo shoutout ClintStevens
@turdboy962
@turdboy962 21 күн бұрын
what show matches were Kobe and Azael talking about in the intro?
@letgomylegho7406
@letgomylegho7406 20 күн бұрын
drip god azael
@TheUnderJaker
@TheUnderJaker 21 күн бұрын
Shadow of the Erd definitely does have an ending cinematic, don’t know what Azael is saying
@blinkonefreakin82
@blinkonefreakin82 21 күн бұрын
Love that Azeal made sure to make the point of how much it sucks to go through queue time, draft, and game just to have almost an hour wasted. So frustrating. As an attorney working crazy hours and living with a partner, sometimes all I have time for is 1 game. It fucking SUCKS when that’s ruined by some a-hole soft inter. And honestly, even on those rare days where I can spend a handful of hours playing, it is still a huge shot to the gut when even just one of those hours is wasted by these people. Get em out!
@artemisthefox6457
@artemisthefox6457 21 күн бұрын
regarding blue side red side i wonder would it be better to be able to enable an option to have a wild rift mode where the red side can just be flipped to act like blue side
@ink2467
@ink2467 21 күн бұрын
nice haircut Meteos :O
@purplekey9330
@purplekey9330 21 күн бұрын
The comments section of any league video is wild. As a 4 year veteran of the game now, the only reason i dont tell people to play the game is because of the insane toxicitiy in the game. Ive been told to off myself, ive been threatened with violence, ive been false reported, ive been hostaged, ive seen it all. But then the community is always like "the games dying because the metas bad and my teamates suck!"
@botbadger
@botbadger 21 күн бұрын
Nah I think everyone knows it is toxic and that's a problem. I tell my friends to play but just don't play solo. If you're in it with a friend you can make soft inter games fun if you have the right mindset and don't take everything so seriously
@andresavila8856
@andresavila8856 20 күн бұрын
I was interested to hear what you guys thought about the World Cup
@sladevalen2120
@sladevalen2120 21 күн бұрын
People soft inting is what made me quit playing. Most of the time they also wouldn't surrender so you were stuck until the enemy finally decided to end the misery for you
@joshuachartrand268
@joshuachartrand268 21 күн бұрын
How often would you FF a game? What percentage
@gregpartridge7554
@gregpartridge7554 21 күн бұрын
That's true sometimes, but I actually think it goes the other way more often. A lot of my experience with "soft inting" is by players who want to surrender, but when their teammates disagree they stop trying to win the game (and ironically, THEY complain about being held hostage by their teammates). And often these are even in games where the enemy team has only a small advantage, not completely hopeless unwinnable ones.
@pregnanttomato9576
@pregnanttomato9576 20 күн бұрын
​@@joshuachartrand268 Id say at least 50% of my games end in an ff, whether it's mine or the enemy team. My perspective is definitely skewed because I really only play norms with friends these days, so there's no LP on the line. I'm sure that makes ff more likely.
@rynejones8513
@rynejones8513 20 күн бұрын
I think that could be fixed with a different surrender system. Instead of being allowed to change your vote, if it instead was once you agree to surrender then your vote is locked in I think FF votes would happen more consistently.
@dealbreakerc
@dealbreakerc 19 күн бұрын
​@@rynejones8513that would be terrible because there have been many games where a team looks well behind but then manages to make a pick and take an objective once or twice and it completely swings the game back the other way
@Genevagirls-h2x
@Genevagirls-h2x 21 күн бұрын
15:20 Azael describing the quintessential league experience. I don't get that many hard inters either. But i get soft inter baby raging run it into opponent fight fight fight kids every single game. Its absurd and ridiculous how common it is and, as Azael stated, it makes you NOT want to play the game.
@botbadger
@botbadger 21 күн бұрын
I just wish Riot refunded LP when someone trolled your game and got banned for it.
@KDOG4796
@KDOG4796 21 күн бұрын
I feel like 90% of my games are just 20 min stomps in either directipn and it really kills the fun for me
@ElReyDeNoche
@ElReyDeNoche 21 күн бұрын
I would only be ok with shrinking the selection time if we had more time post comp chosen to update runes. A person being last pick when you don't know what your opposing laner is playing can be very disadvantageous if you're trying to update a rune page you want. There's just a lot of variance to champ select that I think makes the current time it takes a necessary evil. League is a complex game so having the time is to the benefit. But some of my champs have up to four rune pages that work with them IE Jayce can run, First strike, phase rush, conqueror or electrocute if you're feeling spicy. And I do realize there are some champs that can actually run the same setup every game no matter what.
@MagusMik
@MagusMik 21 күн бұрын
They need to ban whoever goes 10 deaths before 15min ngl
@christopherriordan2057
@christopherriordan2057 21 күн бұрын
There is a lane phase in wild rift just maybe not quite as long
@simpabla1068
@simpabla1068 21 күн бұрын
I wasn't around for league's early days, but I've heard a little about tribunal. Would something like having ur last 2 games that you got reports on be reviewed if you've received over 100 reports be similar to old tribunal?
@tonyswu
@tonyswu 20 күн бұрын
I wonder what percentage of soft inting is targeted, and if an anonymous mode might be useful in League.
@BlueBuffAndChill
@BlueBuffAndChill 20 күн бұрын
wiping my runny nose and scratching my big bite with the same napkin was a good time ya ya
@eric4892
@eric4892 21 күн бұрын
Imagine a gaming PC cafe having all their pcs banned from league 😂
@mrbiggus925
@mrbiggus925 21 күн бұрын
Man i'd love a non League podcast from you guys, my favorite part is always the intro where you guys are talking about what you're been up to and games you're playing
@ennalivesketta3267
@ennalivesketta3267 18 күн бұрын
Did lcs get cancelled? No games this weekend?
@ramusvinicini
@ramusvinicini 20 күн бұрын
Do decreased champ select time for ranked games above a certain rank.
@oraclegenesis1366
@oraclegenesis1366 20 күн бұрын
SOULSTONE SURVIVORS MENTIONED!! PEAK!!
@botbadger
@botbadger 21 күн бұрын
Meteos always bringing those balanced and interesting takes
@botbadger
@botbadger 21 күн бұрын
Ok maybe not always balanced but seems correct most of the time
@ethangilworth7891
@ethangilworth7891 21 күн бұрын
I love Meteos but dude says some wild stuff. That’s part of the appeal though.
@botbadger
@botbadger 21 күн бұрын
Got anything you're thinking of? I love meteos but can't think of a wild take
@ethangilworth7891
@ethangilworth7891 21 күн бұрын
@@botbadger I recall some earlier episodes him asserting that coaches are not helpful and it’s all about putting up teams with good vibes. That’s just the first that comes to mind, I feel like I could come up with a plethora of hot takes from his history on the dive that I disagree with. This is not to disparage him at all for the record, there was a point where I was subscribed to his twitch channel for 2 years straight. His hot takes are fun and bring lively discussion.
@midgevong41
@midgevong41 21 күн бұрын
@@ethangilworth7891 He didn't say coaches weren't helpful, he said most of the NA coaches aren't helpful because they don't know the game very well and they power trip like crazy.
@Roxscy
@Roxscy 18 күн бұрын
I also mute all chat and it's the best to combat toxic players. Once people know they can't get under you skin bc you have mute chat, then it's obvious to see who's actually inting. The standing in the same area... I agree with KOBE 100%
@jcprs69
@jcprs69 21 күн бұрын
HOLY Clint Stevens reference. Come back Clonk
@rktect941
@rktect941 21 күн бұрын
I’m sorry but what’s the point of bringing on a Rioter if all they’re going to say is corporate jargon?
@tatro222
@tatro222 21 күн бұрын
i think in order to fix soft inting they need to innact some type of system where the soft inter either is automated or through a vote like a surrender is subject to either minus lp gains or positive lp losses. Ive had many times where a player tried their hardest to int the game and make it unwinnable but myself snd my team win the game, that soft inter gets lp for that, then that helps them climb and stay in higher ranks, if you go 3/15 and your team wins the other players should get your lp divided up and you should get none, or if you lose vice versa.
@normancraytor6749
@normancraytor6749 21 күн бұрын
every time i watch dive i am reminded that kobe is so much smarter than azael and meteos. Not surprising that kobe is also the best dressed
@purplekey9330
@purplekey9330 21 күн бұрын
My only concern about soft int bans is if its done poorly. Itll dtart bamning people for playing badly
@pie1pie2pie3pie4
@pie1pie2pie3pie4 17 күн бұрын
Thank you The Dive for focusing on soft inting!!! This is such a big problem that happens *all* the time on N.A. server, about 50%+/- of ranked games it feels like. (bronze/silver in my experience) This generally, but not always, involves someone who gives up at 5 - 10 min and then absolutely ruins the game for everyone. They may even Blame Game others for the loss. People who do this with some level of consistency, shouldn't be allowed to play ranked in my opinion. Maybe a month ban from ranked is needed.
@pie1pie2pie3pie4
@pie1pie2pie3pie4 17 күн бұрын
Double post!!! Riot needs to ban people who show a statistically significant number of games that are soft inted over a certain number of games. So like out of 20 games, 5 or more are soft inted could be a sign. In determining what soft inting is, Riot should not only look at negatives such as a player with a large number of deaths. If a player is actively trying to moves for their team (meaning, gold positive plays) despite otherwise "bad performance", then they should be ok. Gold positive plays can include split pushing even though your team dies on the other side of the map. On the other hand, farming jg at minute 20-30 instead of taking towers or team fighting could be a sign of soft inting. As the hosts said, automating this system would be tricky though, I can imagine.
@rivv4902
@rivv4902 20 күн бұрын
Twisted treeline walked so this shit could crawl
@bjornneuhauser6636
@bjornneuhauser6636 14 күн бұрын
there's no way battlerite AND legion TD2 gets a shoutout on the dive! those games are hecking awesome
@ZeroRizing
@ZeroRizing 21 күн бұрын
I would love to just see the win rate of top lane on red side
@JoeSpizz
@JoeSpizz 20 күн бұрын
Azael speaks the truth so many times in this video.
@nationalSoup29
@nationalSoup29 21 күн бұрын
Why not bring back Tribunal for those with good account standing?
@austinhodges3976
@austinhodges3976 18 күн бұрын
Would hardware bans be used for permabanning? If so then what happens if that computer is given to someone second-hand? They’re shit out of luck?
@SnoopPogg
@SnoopPogg 21 күн бұрын
maybe I'm crazy, but I feel like for the past couple seasons, its been a way better experience in solo queue. I see much less inting and many fewer afks. I'm in high gold/low plat
@sidequest76
@sidequest76 20 күн бұрын
What is Swarm?
@trysephiroth007
@trysephiroth007 21 күн бұрын
For the swarm mode, I feel like I'm more likely to beat it and stop playing since I know it's going away. I wonder how stuff like thar will affect their metrics.
@timothygleis5322
@timothygleis5322 21 күн бұрын
I think there should be a minimum rank for the 'soft-inting' bans. As much as I agree that this is still a thing in my Plat game, half the time I feel like people are just dumb and don't know what the 'optimal' play is lol.
@adamdaniels1572
@adamdaniels1572 21 күн бұрын
Was this recorded before ESWC? Kinda shocked there was I mention of NA doing really well at that tourney.
@TOGS355
@TOGS355 21 күн бұрын
They pretend like that tourney doesnt exist
@tufmonkey7255
@tufmonkey7255 21 күн бұрын
Spoiling the last boss of Elden ring dlc for me was crazy meteos
@bashvash
@bashvash 21 күн бұрын
Thanks for this comment just bought it 3 days ago
@SunshineBr0
@SunshineBr0 21 күн бұрын
I play games like meteos. I like a structured game - open world almost feels like there’s too much to do
@User-pu3lc
@User-pu3lc 20 күн бұрын
Soft inting happens because it’s easier to feel agency throwing the game than playing to win… The prevalence of the behavior is a symptom of a core gameplay design issue. Spending time trying to identify and ban the behavior is a “band aid fix” and will only result in a different mini-game to feel agency in the game.
@HeartLancer
@HeartLancer 21 күн бұрын
I wonder if the topic of soft inting was brought up by the recent Agurin game. Free him!
@marc-antoinemorel411
@marc-antoinemorel411 21 күн бұрын
Has a toplaner im scared of the ‘’soft inting’’ change because if you get dove on stacked wave, you are out of the game and the enemy team can choose to dive you repeatedly and then your 0/10 and the whole team is flaming
@AverageGreg
@AverageGreg 21 күн бұрын
Kobe should talk to the Player Behavior team if he thinks people are getting false chat bans.
@jimmic888
@jimmic888 21 күн бұрын
I have a 10 year old starting to play. Is he going to get hardware banned (including my account) for his play. Because sometimes it looks pretty awful.
@ElReyDeNoche
@ElReyDeNoche 21 күн бұрын
Actually very likely if he is playing on your account as that is against TOS anyway. Make sure he has his own account and as long as his deaths are from him being actually bad and not him running it down in game you're good.
@jimmic888
@jimmic888 21 күн бұрын
@@ElReyDeNoche he has his own account, but if it is a hardware ban that it would effect me as well. Maybe running it down in iron is not a big deal.
@ElReyDeNoche
@ElReyDeNoche 21 күн бұрын
@@jimmic888 There's a chance he could get flagged as a deranking bot. Best bet is just to talk to him and make sure he is legit trying his best. Possibly give him some sit behind coaching to fix the bad habits. That way you get some fun parent kid bonding and your hardware is safe. It's what I'm looking forward to when my daughter is old enough to game.
@dm4226
@dm4226 21 күн бұрын
League needs to have something like csgo had with the overwatch system. Let the community police themselves. Make it so that you gotta be gold-plat and atleast level 100 or something and a jury of 10 people get sent a 10min clip of a game where a bunch of reports come in and they decide the fate.
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