Imo scarra quote on 1-17 team Coast is up there in terms of all time great quotes. "Up until they lose the game, they're winning" was just so hilariously accurate about that team cos boy they could sure blow an early game lead.

I know that the old lore about summoners and the like was terrible and totally a geeky gamer thing, but I still love it. It was lore made by a bunch of people just thinking up interesting (And often really dark) storylines for how the characters got to the rift, not having to worry about the larger world or how anything fits together. The lore these days just feels... corporate. If nothing else, the old lore gave context for why the game happens.

TL dunk incoming

Its crazy how after everything Gala still gets this disrespect of being a Kaisa otp, smh. This guy is so good and criminally underrated.

Quality content is nice

Even years later your intros still are straight fire.

That Thorin pose on the thumbnail is so funny

Banger episode, always like Jensen as a guest.

Not sure why Jensen is so down on JDG? If you hadn't watched LPL and listened to this episode you'd come away thinking they're an underwhelming team. Reality is they are the most cohesive of the best LPL teams and are stacked in every position, 369 best top in LPL, Kanavi goes without saying, Yagao performing out of his mind this year, Hope and Missing don't get talked about much but are extremely good.

"JDG are frauds" Someone find Jensen after that 10k gold comeback and game 5

Yesssss, finally LPL episode

Faker vs Apdo would be really entertaining to watch for sure, good call

Danny his pool in this meta was for sure exposed. I swear if teams give him Zeri/Seraphine in playoffs they are dumb. He played 3 Sivir games and they were all against C9. The first 1 was in the super week, it was a win but the win was all 'cause of Inspired his Vi. And then 2 losses in this series against C9. Not being able to play Kalista, Lucian and Draven is a huge problem especially vs C9 who plays all 3. Though I would not want to see Lucian/Nami for C9 considering how good Berserker is on other picks and even the Aphelios who he is so good on and could arguably be his best champ. The difference is Zeri is just too easy to dominate team fights with especially when they pick shit like Zilean mid and Renata support. I do think Danny has an amazing Zeri and wouldn't really just say that Berserker > Danny when it comes to Zeri. Danny has had amazing Zeri performances. Danny is 11-2 on the Zeri and hard carried on Zeri in Spring Playoffs. Berserker on the other hand wasn't very good on it in Spring but in Summer is now doing really well with it. Berserker is 8-6 on the Zeri so yeah I wouldn't say Berserker > Danny on Zeri because of 1 series because Danny for sure can look like the best adc on specific picks like the Trist, Jinx and I also think Zeri. Berserker is just an overall better player with a better champion pool. As for Jensen performance in the regular split. I don't know honestly why he's rated as doing poorly when if you compare his stats to jojo in the season even though the winrate isn't close, Jensen has very similar stats. KDA is close, DPM is close, Jensen does a little higher % dmg inside the team because often Danny did the most damage by far. Jensen got 5 solo kills, jojo got 2. Ahead in CS at 15 minutes Jensen actually has that more often than jojo does. jojo is more a first blood victim than Jensen is. Jensen played 11 champs, jojo played 8. But honestly for Jensen to have these stats even though the winrate wasn't close is pretty crazy. But somehow he had such a mediocre or even poor split performance. But jojo was 1st all pro. Someone gotta explain that to me. gol.gg/players/player-stats/583/season-ALL/split-ALL/tournament-LCS%20Summer%202022/ gol.gg/players/player-stats/3544/season-ALL/split-ALL/tournament-LCS%20Summer%202022/

Jensen Goh was such a great and insightful guest. Hope we see more of him in this show!

The Problem with damwon is that the stupid coaching staff is playing burden and not Nuguri. Why the fk would I play burden when I have Nuguri. Even a bad Nuguri is still better than a good playing burden.

Where is dom when i need him, he would own these two frauds jensen n monte

Finally some time spent talking around LPL. Last Hit and Doms content is great but fully welcome more discussion around the Chinese scene

I agree that regional summer season play offs should have double elimination brackets to extend the tournament as a pay off for the 2/3 month long season like lpls , however i disagree that worlds should be designed this way, it follows a system much like the champions league in football which is competitive enough and allows for upsets to happen. Regional competition should be treated diffrently to international, a double elimination bracket would kill some of the hype i think and make the whole tournament too predictable. As a fan i like the hype around how every match you play really matters, thats what its about. If you loose then, unfortuantley you didnt perform well in 6 games in groups or you lost 3 games in a b05. Those are enough games i feel at the end of a season to prove yourself, but i think they should do it on the same patch as regional play offs. I dont see how a double elmination bracket would even work without reginal bias by saying lck and lpl is just better than lec which is true but then whats the point of the tournament if those teams just get a hugely unfair advantage, Its an international competiton at some if you seed lpl or lck teams as throin suggests then it just becomes rift rivals for a couple of other teams .

The problem for me is that EG doesn't have strong enough lanes: Impact is a weak side player and he kinda got exposed on Monday. Is he planning to blind pick tanks or Aatrox at Worlds? Danny and Vulcan are still weak in lane, and the champ pool thing is still an issue for Danny. Jojo's "strength" is supposed to be his laning, but against Chovy, Faker, Showmaker and Clozer? He gets clapped. VS Knight, Yagao, Scout, Xiaohu, DoinB or Rookie? He is blasted. He doesn't stand a chance against Caps, Vetheo, or Nisqy either, he'll have to pray he gets matched against Larsen who chokes or Humainoid plays like regular season and they avoid a Chinese or Korean team? Not happening.

peak design for a trophy ever was the flashpoint ak 47 and its not close

thorin's face on the chapters thumbnail is hilarious

This world championship most probably would have a winners from previous worlds until 2014. Do you believe Riot would do something with that or we never are going to have another music video like Rise?

My problem with the west is doomed takes is that people assume eastern teams are going to keep their high level while western teams are not going to get better. Because of the bootcamps, things usually change, because western teams finally get to practice against better teams, which let’s remember is a luxury we can’t afford with the current system. Meanwhile Korean and Chinese teams get to scrim each other all year long. Also what does doomed mean? Not winning worlds, then yeah no shit. Not reaching semis? Maybe. Not reaching quarters? What is it? I don’t see the latter happening

Tom Brady also a great example. Came on for an injured Bledsoe and then ended up the GOAT

C9 baby!!

For a show match I'd like to see the casters take on LCS pros in WC3 DotA.

Thorin should have had a 2 minute trailer for his channel made for this last 2 weeks a hall of fame level run reflections with ls larsen forest valde sunny plus videos on shroud shox "I was wrong (taco xizt)"

Thorin says he wants bjerg to get shit on at world's again. I want TSM to beat TL then go 0-6 at worlds

3:07:30 I personally can’t stand most NA casters. I like CaptainFlowers and I think Azael would be better on the analyst desk imo.

I wonder if summoners cup is based off the Stanley cup because im pretty sure thats the only major sports trophy which records the name of team on it.

I totally forgot about pro mod. What an incredible callback. It was actually legit. 1.6 is king but man it aged so badly for the spectator.

Jensen Goh? who?

Hans Sama seems weak as fuck right now. Easily the weakest link on TL. I think unironically TL needs Doublelift back. He’ll call every shot (around himself, but at least he’s calling something), he has a history with everyone but Bwipo, and he would straighten the team out. I just don’t know if he’s too washed or could actually come back and perform well. But his personality and big voice would do well in this team I think.

Although I love Doinb both as a person and as a player. Imagine if Rookie was on LNG instead of Doinb. LNG would literally be best team in world right now

the old lore was better by a mile lol

how was EG an anomoly when they perma lost botlane and won lategame teamfights but c9 in 2020 and 2021 with perkz in spring won with aggressive picks and tried winning the game under 30minutes and did not like scaling champs. they literally played faster then EG with more aggressive lanes but ye EG were an anomoly EVERY OTHER na team that ever won just won off scaling champs 40minute games.

Banger Content

I think most teams have bad midgame in general, not just JDG. I don't know how many teams will be able to punish them in groupstage lol

Looked it up after the intro section I think the cup looks fine and everyone's just being crotchety about it

I like that Jensen had a different opinion, even if i don't quite agree with it. It made the show more interesting. Definitely miss the old lore.

Last worlds FPX Tian was sick

Monte & Thorin since the beginning of Summoning Insight: "Why does NA try to play the same meta as other major regions just to get crushed? They should develop their own style and try to beat other regions with it. That's why LS approach would be much better for NA internationally. Why don't other teams try to play LS champions?" Monte & Thorin when NA teams try to play Seraphine (which LS has always considered super broken) and Zilean (similar concept to Seraphine): "Why are NA teams picking Seraphine and Zilean? These champions are not even meta in other regions. NA so bad ahah they can't play LPL and LCK meta" Which one is it?

Joe Marsh kills me

indeed a good time

Jensen didn’t do anything in the EG series… he had to play Leblanc as a comfort pick.

I was excited for Jensen to be on after Thorin talked him up so much recently and damn what a disappointment... For such a smart guy he is really dumb about JDG.... Not defending as a fan (no one cares but I have publicly hated on JDG for years have twitter receipts). Let's get specific for starters he openly admits he didn't watch every JDG game... If you don't watch every game from the best team in the region then you aren't an expert on the region. He then says they have bad set up on objectives and references 369 walking in jungle getting chunked for free and uses that as an example of why a western team like EG might win against them... WHAT THE FUCK? He doesn't say the specific game but I can infer it's game 2 JDG vs TES because it has the 8k gold lead for JDG and they still lose. I'm specifically assuming he's talking about the jungle fight at 37:08 where he complains about this losing them the game and being punished by other teams. This is a top for jungle trade where JDG then takes the mid inhib for free and also claims all of TES jungle. Before the play you can watch the pings go down on the map and 369 ults before walking into team because he knows where they are and he also knows that if the enemy team burns everything to kill him his team will have the health lead and resource lead to take objectives if not the game after. This dude should probably go watch all the games and also look at the mini map before coming on a show like this... He wanted to expose frauds and as far as I can tell did a pretty good job exposing himself. long comment I know but I was so hyped for this and this dude is just so very wrong it's hard to deal with

comments for da boyz

NA is ready to speed run worlds and fly no walk home .

Loco is the ultimate LoL court jester

I want it now.. 3 hours wait wtf Also 1st

Its time to say: Gumayusi most overated adc in lck, even teddy outperform him lmao 😂

Bad take on jdg

while the game XL vs FNC wasn't high class I don't think FNC played scared or bad on lucian. I don't think G2 or FNC would go far at Worlds. Also I am wondering how much of Yamatos spirit/teaching is still in the Sandbox team.

Lmfao

"GenG will blow JDG out of the water" Meanwhile the rumor is GenG can't win a game vs JDG in scrims. XD XD XD XD

western teams will never win worlds until they change their attitude towards the game. All these discussions are hopeless.it only adds salt to the wounds and humiliation we had for the past 11 years. ONLY G2 CAN BRING UPSET AGAINST TOP EASTERN TEAMS BUT AGAIN THEY ARE DEFINITELY NOT WINNING WORLDS THIS YEAR OR ANY YEAR. i suggest fans to only watch highlights videos not the live match.we viewers and fans need to tell our lazy western players and teams to get their shit right and play like eastern teams or become irrelevant. As a fan i really really want them to ATLEAST win 1 worlds.

So.... Jensen was wrong

I don't know if it is just XQC but his quebecan accent is a struggle to understand sometimes.

Calm down G2 got to play MSF, that's not a real test, other teams had to play better opponents to move forward. Hopefully G2 are able to replicate. But based on the samples we have G2 and 100T look like the only competent teams from the west.

Cloud9 is not winning the series. 100T 3-1.

Brother monte, the esports infidels must be jihaded for the haram they commit regularly. think of brother RL, and all who've fallen before him