CDC aren’t “politicians”, they are scientists and medical professionals that think they are protecting our furry family members. A lot of dogs have died from that mysterious illness, I believe they understand it now. Contact the administration, your senators and house representatives, help them to understand what the CDC don’t know, missed and/or misunderstood. President Biden loves dogs, he’s always had dogs, and even adopted a rescue dog. This would matter to him!

As much as we adore Robert, it only applies to 113 countries and is an extension of what was already in place from Covid. This was not started by the current administration. Germany and Belgium are not part of the 113.

Really doesn't matter what administration. It's the CDC that's the problem. There is no trust any longer in any government agency. We have no say over how our tax dollars are being spent.

This isn’t about voting, CDC aren’t “politicians”, they are scientists and medical professionals that think they are protecting our furry family members. A lot of dogs have died from that mysterious illness, I believe they understand it now. Contact the administration, your senators and house representatives, help them to understand what they don’t know, missed and/or misunderstood. President Biden loves dogs, he’s always had dogs, and even adopted a rescue dog. This would matter to him!

Killing hundreds of thousands of dogs killed every yr. In the US should tell you we have too many unwanted dogs. The price of imports has gotten out of control. Seems to me we have imported for long enough that US breeders have been able to establish the lines here.

@@Rina-sv5ui that's not the point. Education is really the key to people learning that just because two dogs can breed doesn't mean that they should. This is why people need sound dogs for dog sports, work and other necessities, good bloodlines with solid nerves and genetics. The gene pool for good dogs is small in the U S. Europe just happens to have a much better system only breeding dogs that have been health tested, temperament tested, conformation tested and worked. This has not been happening in the United States with the exception of responsible breeders who are not in it for just how much money they can get but for the foundation and the future of the breeds.

Puppy mills exist in every country as do prisons. Afghanistan prison verses US prison. The CDC is having to do this because the US citizens are importing fraudulent dogs from countries with high Rabies populations.

Damn straight!! I'm with you!!

I think we could all say i There’s nothing wrong with agreeing to disagree. Have a good weekend everyone

This isn’t about voting, CDC aren’t “politicians”, they are scientists and medical professionals that think they are protecting our furry family members. A lot of dogs have died from that mysterious illness, I believe they understand it now. Contact the administration, your senators and house representatives, help them to understand what they don’t know, missed and/or misunderstood. President Biden loves dogs, he’s always had dogs, and even adopted a rescue dog. This would matter to him!

I'm with you! We need to bring back normal all over the world that those lefties are destroying. Support from Germany ❤

Just so you're aware, this was a co-sponsored bill between Rs and Ds, so maybe it's time to stop looking at the initials after the name and start looking at what the individuals have done. We must educate ourselves on ALL elected officials for whom we have the power to vote in our states and districts.

Universal non-compliance Just like we should have during covid.

The CDC didn't make up this rule, Chuck Grassley and Tina Smith co-wrote this bill.

This is trying to get rid of some very specific puppy mills.

@@grt49er yes, this wasn’t directed at Robert I’m just expressing my frustration with those disgusting puppy mills

You don't think they're working on a variety of things at once? It IS possible, you know.

All of the above information is false. All of it. Every bit. That is all

@@Gravityembracegary Look at the British government website and you will see the temporary DEFRA ban.. On the diseases they brought in you can also view British Veterinary's surgeons websites. Our vets wrote an article on it.

@@Gravityembracegary The UK is about to limit them and they may have already started. UK ranchers are getting crushed by Bovine TB. They have been culling badgers for few years now and it isn’t working. Dogs are a carrier.

@grt49er absolutely incorrect.. the badger cull was stopped after a year or two.. the rules for foreign, live animal import are stricter.. we don't have ranchers but our farmers are fine thanks.. bovine tb by the way has NOTHING to do with the import of dogs. Nothing. Dogs absolutely do not carry bovine tb. Please stop spreading falsehood, you're making yourself sound very stupid.

EXACTLY!!! Case in point that they DON"T really care. Quite obvious when they just let people pour over our border after covid. All of a sudden it is okay to just let an invasion happen, who knows what diseases are coming thru? NOTHING MAKES SENSE>people need to wake up

the old rules were at least 12 weeks so 16 isnt' that much longer honestly.

It is 113 countries and the announcement is that it will be extended which it was suppose to end July31. These countries and political units are considered high risk for importing dog rabies into the United States. Afghanistan Algeria Angola Armenia Azerbaijan Bangladesh Belarus Belize Benin Bolivia Botswana Brazil Burkina Faso Burundi Cambodia Cameroon Central African Republic Ceuta Chad China (excluding Hong Kong, Macau, and Taiwan) Colombia Comoros Côte d’Ivoire (Ivory Coast) Cuba Democratic Republic of the Congo Djibouti Dominican Republic Ecuador Egypt El Salvador Equatorial Guinea Eritrea Eswatini (Swaziland) Ethiopia Gabon Gambia Georgia Ghana Guatemala Guinea Guinea-Bissau Guyana Haiti Honduras India Indonesia Iran Iraq Jordan Kazakhstan Kenya Kuwait Kyrgyzstan Laos Lebanon Lesotho Liberia Libya Madagascar Malawi Malaysia Mali Mauritania Melilla Moldova Mongolia Morocco (including Western Sahara) Mozambique Myanmar (Burma) Namibia

@@mell.7817 ty

Where did you get this information? Is it on the CDC website?

Well said!!!🎉❤

It’s not legislation, this was an edict dictated by unelected, un accountable bureaucrats with non congressional approval or oversight.

I live in Oregon and heard at least one case every year here.

ditto

I kind of agree but I maybe unusual but I rescued 3 rspca dogs in uk where I live then 5 more Eastern European rescues as rescuing in uk is complicated. I am probably exceptional. I have 9 dogs.

He is not talking rescues he is talking about working line dogs

@@gerdberg4188 I hear you thank you

@@gerdberg4188 just to add I’ve moved to north of England and a guy some streets away has been importing illegal dogs. Big ones and no idea where they are going. I go out with trepidation as odd ones occasionally escape. I have four bull terriers and five mongrels I don’t now let my dogs off leads we go out in twos. So I suspect my view tainted. I adore all dogs but feel their can be dangerous if idiots have them x

True. And that may be what has got the CDC's attention on this. So now they want to punish everyone importing dogs here. No wonder we have so many homeless dogs.

Which is why this is a potential issue in the first place. Insanity.

It is the same in every country. All countries are going to have a percentage of fraudulent breeders. It’s a human nature thing not a nationality issue.

@@grt49er of course every country has bad breeders. That’s not what my point was. My point is that, for example, Germany has stricter breeding guidelines and regulations if the breeder is part of an fci breed club. They have regional breed specific overseers that visit the breeders, make breeding recommendations according to the health of dam and sire, and make sure breeders follow all guidelines of raising litters. They also do in home and kennel visits. It is very organized. There is nothing like it in the USA.

@@CCOREY5 All those guidelines in place and yet the breeder allowed you to take 8 week old puppies onto an international flight. Sounds like a puppy mill to me. More concerned with selling puppies than the puppies well being.

@@grt49er nothing wrong with flying with a puppy if you follow certain guidelines. I always knew the breeder. I always went to Germany to get the puppy. I only use direct non-stop flights. Never any in-between stops or plane changes. And I only use the German airline Lufthansa. Lufthansa has professional guidelines for the transfer of pets. This is not uncommon for the German shepherd world of breeders. These are definitely not puppy mills.

@@CCOREY5 In that scenario those guys are getting screwed by the limitations.

That’s so sad.

Is France on the list of countries that have been banned?

Sadly it was an unethical rescue and unethical vet or vets that falsified the papers for this dog to make it to the US, and not the dog. Any rescue organization along with any vets who have signed falsified papers should be hit with HUGE fines and possible jail time time and any vet who falsifies papers should lose their license immediately along with huge fines and possible jail time as well. The CDC need to punish the people who falsify, play the system under the radar knowing the CDC is not too bright. These same people will continue to do what they have been doing, as this rule only punishes the responsible law abiding dog owner. The CDC has absolutely no clue that this rule WILL NOT solve their problem. Common sense and CDC should never be in the same sentence!

@@robinrutherfordcost4748 after August 1 it won’t matter if the country is considered rabies free, it will still be a 6 month wait. France has and will continue to be one of the rabies free states I imagine due to their policy to control it.

You’ll have to prove that as the CDCs own data dates there has not been a case of canine rabies since 2008.

Excellent!

You get a front row seat.

Vaccines work though don't be a moron

Unless the breeder run a huge kennel with network of puppy raisers, that he/she can live off by breeding dogs almost full time; even with the meant well breeder up until now can't carter to the US market this way when they can sell puppies to other market. Also breeders would pass the cost to buyers, and there are things they can't carter to buyers without the buyer to pay significantly more than if the buyer raise the puppy themselves. Let's say an American future dog owner live on a farm. He has a stable supply of meat, bone, organ scrap to supplement the main mill. It would cut the feeding cost greatly., especially for raw feeding diet. Good luck keeping the cost down asking breeders to raw feed your choice of puppy. Remember the point Mr Cabral raised in the video: It's not like breeders don't have other inquiries from different market. People from Asia, Africa, Oceania and other European countries... would still be happy to buy young puppies. Breeders (mostly small scale) would prefer to sell than taking risk holding onto a puppies until 6 month old. Accidents can happen to the puppies and the future owners, that can change the plan. Buyer can fall ill suddenly, and no longer want the dog. Or the puppy get into some sort of life changing incident. You can't force said buyer to just take this puppy then, nor you just take the deposit. Noone wants to take this risk, when there is a clear more convenient alternative (selling other market). Not many kennels are on big enough scale to carter to this new law. Most if not all of them that run on big scale meant to carter to the law enforcement, working, sport market, which meant more of kennel dogs settings. It allows them to lower their cost, yet the price for puppies, and green dogs alone are ever increasing. A puppy raising system for pet dogs to live with the family, likely cost more to implement.

Mostly does more good than harm the CDC - actually its the laws that make huge corporations in the pharmaceutical and medical device industries more powerful and CDC weaker that leads to catastrophic places from time to time,,,, that said I have no clue why they would even care about individual breeders bringing in puppies. The CDC looks at how drugs etc are developed - have more to do as far as I know with the pharmaceutical industry. I know they use a lot of dogs for research. I do not know whether they import puppies. I still do not understand the reason at this time for this change. I don't want to speculate further. But I don't know why the CDC would have jurisdiction over an individual dog owner purchaser in the first place. It goes against everything I understand about how medicine is run in this country.

The ignorance of this is stunning. It's not breeders filling shelters. Go after retail-rescue and puppy mills. THAT is where your shelter dogs are coming from. You don't get to dictate for others what dogs they can choose from or where they can get them just as nobody gets to dictate that to you. Wow.

Pfizer and Moderna would be my guess.

This was actually started when Covid started and it only applies to high risk countries. Most European countries are not on the CDC list. It is only being extended to the same countries.

Probably not, but I believe they import older dogs

No. They bought green dogs (6month old up to under 2 years old), not puppies. The vendors to sell these green dogs would have puppy raising, and foundation training program. So they don't exactly care.

They do. The CDC has a list of 113 countries that this is extended to. It was a ban put on during Covid. For the 113 they are extending it further. European countries such as Germany and Belgium are not part of the ban. Unfortunately, Robert did not do his complete research on this issue before making his feelings known.

@@mell.7817 Thank you for the clarification. Then it’s not that bad :)

We're in the same boat. We live close to the US border and our veterinarian will often refer dogs to the specialty clinics in Spokane, WA or to the vet school in Pullman, WA. She won't be able to do this anymore if it's an emergency because of all the time-consuming paperwork involved to "import" a Canadian dog into the US. We also like to occasionally vacation south of the border and we'll have to think long and hard if we want to jump through all of the paperwork hoops the CDC has put in place for those of us in Canada and other rabies-free countries.

you kinda answered your own question, the reason it's 6 months is that that's when we vaccinate.

It gets immunity from it’s Mom. I don’t know if it would work, but you can titer a dog for a rabies level. I have done it with my senior dogs as I don’t do rabies after 10 yo. I wonder if the titer would show the Mother transferred immunity.

@@1packatak I would think so. Humans can get titers done for immunities to diseases too. My daughter had a titer done to see if she was still immune to chicken pox. She did this in her early 30s to keep from having to get the vaccine.(That was required for her new job and carreer) She had chicken pox when she 3 years old, but there was no medical record proving that. So when she was required to show proof that she had chicken pox, she went and had a titer done. She still showed immunity 3o years later. This should always be done and quit vaccinating when it is not needed. Too much vaccinating goes on these days. And I believe causing a LOT of health issues. In humans and animals. There is truth to 'too much of a good thing is too much'.

Canada starts rabies vaccines at 16 weeks

Most states require a rabies vaccination for imported dogs from other states. Which means 6 month olds.

Good idea but then you create a middle man which means higher prices for a puppy.

People gonna have to research breeders in the USA the dogs are there the breeds and bloodlined are there, just take good breeding and the understanding of the breeding process

@@KyleTheCorsoKid It's not that simple. Perhaps you're not familiar with breeding work? Outside of very few dog breeds created in the US, dogs have always been imported to the US. It takes trial and errors for ethical and good breeders to find compatible stud and bitch. You don't just breed any female nor male even if they come from good pedigree and papered. Good ethical breeders look out for and pick the right individuals from the lines. So in short, unless someone import hundred of these expensive dogs and raise them properly all by themselves, they would still rely on a network of other breeders. And those networks are stronger in Europe for dogs that originated there. Even a working class person may have a quality stud/bitch. Whereas in the US, it takes a small fortune to own similar quality stud/bitch. When people invest more money, of course they at least want to get their return.

Robert was misinformed. This is an extension from Covid of 113 high risk countries. Belgium is not on the list.

You are misinformed - per the CDC, it is ALL countries now, not just extending the current ban on high risk countries. This includes Germany, Belgium, and *Canada* ​@@mell.7817

They're for you

All dogs are equal is simply educatedly wrong. Also the saying that people are equal meant to be said about basic right. Not on talent level, such as not everyone should have access to specialist education talent because they want without prove their talent. Why would someone who have no talent in music getting to study program funded by art tax just because they want? Back to dogs. A breed have been heavily selective bred, and developed to be how they are. They're already very different. Even for just beauty contest, non protection dogs, there are categories such as herding breed, spitz, hunting, retrieving... More advance, you have to prove that Border Collie can work as police dog as good as Malinois, German Shepherd and their mix, to at least be considered worthy of debate. Yes Malinois and German Shepherd came from herding ancestors, but certain individuals that meet requirement and pass breed test were selected out and bred to improve to become what they are. The herding ancestors of these two breed in this example are landrace dogs (look it up if you don't understand what landrace dogs are). There were huge naturally selected genes to develop from. Whereas the only landrace dog in the US is Carolina dog, and they're not well suited for any work, all US geographical climate and living situation alone. There is little to build them up before develop some distinctive breed with beneficial working trait out of them. The genetic diversity within breeds for purebred dogs in the US alone are not strong enough for American people to maintain a healthy, strong enough lines to stay well of import. And some breeds have different bonding, socialization requirement for different growth stage. Some take longer to bond if not start the bonding process before the fear periods. Money is also a thing. A trainer owner can train their puppies and save that expense. Why would that person have to pay for training expense for the same dog because of a silly law? You can't expect a breeder to spend all their time training each puppy individually and not asking you to pay the expense, ain't you? Are you aware that even an untrained green dog (with working potential) are getting into $10k plus region and less well funded police department still bite their lips to get them. The well trained, tested working dog would cost a small fortune. Law enforcement are the type that usually get dog finish teething phase. The same dog when acquired as puppy would be significantly less expensive. Police dog can be a mix which means not good breeding prospect with attached expense for breeding right. Imagine how much stellar papered 6 month dog with all the extra quality required care and training coming from great pedigree. In short, each breeds have their own demands. How is that equality in any shape or form? Can't treat a border collie, like a Great Pyrenese. Just treat them generically as dog is actually abuse.

Well, I don’t wanna keep getting back-and-forth, but I do believe all dogs are equal and if somebody’s looking for a certain dog, if they look hard enough, they’ll find it either in a shelter or where someone can’t keep it anymore or a friend of a friend Just gotta do a lot of homework and keep looking. You’ll find the dog that suits your needs whether you do obedience agility personal protection or just a good, happy, healthy pet. You’ll find it. And it will have all the qualities that it was Bread to do just didn’t fit in in that home and crying to find its perfect home.

Breed

@@watchmoivies123 . You don't see the contradiction in your own words? Why would you have to look hard for specific traits (also talent) if every dog is equal?! As I pointed out before, show me a Border Collie that can do apprehension police work just as well as Malinois or German Shepherd. Anyone experienced enough know the reason is that Border Collie is not only physically incompatible but mentally incompatible since they're bred to be extreme sound sensitive. Stop and projecting. Yes shelter is not good a place for dogs to live, but dogs don't have the same perception as human. They don't dream of a ideal home in their mind, and crying. We love dog because they follow their master through thick and thin. Finding a good match between a dog and the master is uttermost important. However, the master would have specific expectation for their future dogs. That specific expectation means inequality. Some expectation is lower standard, and that person may find such dogs in shelters. For high standard expectations, it would cost more in time to find a dog that meet such standard. For example: How do you guarantee a dog would be free of certain physical issue down the road when you have no pedigree to look at? Nobody can outtrain genetic. Let's agree to disagree. You have your ideal, but you don't have argument in this debate. I'm not here to change you, but to say what I did.

@@lukeryuzaki2328 all dogs are equal, but some dogs were bred to do specific things and you can find that dog in a shelter or elsewhere you don’t have to go to another country to find that dog

but they did such a great job with COVID lockdowns and mask mandates. oh wait, masks never worked against COVID.

certainly not you LOL

Robert did not complete his research. This only applies to 113 high risk countries. It started during Covid by the previous admin and is being extended to the 113. Most European countries are not included. It wasn’t political, but done for safety standards.

Health concerns. It was started during Covid and only applies to 113 high risk countries. Most European countries aren’t on the list. These countries often don’t have the same guidelines for animal health. Rabies is still problematic in these countries and it can’t always be assumed that the puppies will have antibodies since the mom may never have been vaccinated. There are also many more virus and bacteria that we don’t have a problem with in this country.

These countries and political units are considered high risk for importing dog rabies into the United States. It has been on the books for years. This is the list from the CDC. It’s on the website.They just extended it. Afghanistan Algeria Angola Armenia Azerbaijan Bangladesh Belarus Belize Benin Bolivia Botswana Brazil Burkina Faso Burundi Cambodia Cameroon Central African Republic Ceuta Chad China (excluding Hong Kong, Macau, and Taiwan) Colombia Comoros Côte d’Ivoire (Ivory Coast) Cuba Democratic Republic of the Congo Djibouti Dominican Republic Ecuador Egypt El Salvador Equatorial Guinea Eritrea Eswatini (Swaziland) Ethiopia Gabon Gambia Georgia Ghana Guatemala Guinea Guinea-Bissau Guyana Haiti Honduras India Indonesia Iran Iraq Jordan Kazakhstan Kenya Kuwait Kyrgyzstan Laos Lebanon Lesotho Liberia Libya Madagascar Malawi Malaysia Mali Mauritania Melilla Moldova Mongolia Morocco (including Western Sahara) Mozambique Myanmar (Burma) Namibia

Just found an article from 2022: "CDC Documents Reveal Dog Import Ban Isn’t Due to Rabies Increase" - The CDC ... “identified a significant increase compared with the previous two years in the number of imported dogs that were denied entry into the United States from high-risk countries.” In 2020, 458 out of the approximately one million dogs entering the United States were denied entry due to invalid, incomplete, or falsified paperwork. In 2019, 298 dogs were denied entry for the same reasons. This makes the increase from 2019 to 2020 a mere 160 additional dogs.

The Humane Society of the US was the one who was originally campaigning for this rule! Now they’re ‘disappointed’ in the final outcome. Another example of why they don’t get any donations from me.

I'd watch the hell out of an interview/chat between Robert and Haz.

Larry Krohn is a fed though

You know Haz is Canadian, right!?

@@brendad7559 Yup - hasn't prevented him from commenting on what goes on here in The States. He's got an eye on European, Canadian, & US trends. He buys alot from Europe & sold alot through Canada & the United States. Not to mention one of his IPO buddies lives in N.Y. So yeah - he's got his finger on the pulse of the industry.

I also want to be clear that I have already written to Senator Tina Smith (D, Minn), to voice my disgust with this policy that she co-wrote with Grassley.

Whoever initiated this bill is off base. I don’t care what party they’re in, they’re wrong.

@@RobertCabralDogs I agree 100%.

The CDC itself says you will not be able to import a puppy from Canada until it is six months old. It applies to all dogs entering from outside of the U.S. from any country.

Nope. Incorrect. NO county of origin as of aug 1 is ok if the pup is under 6 mo of age. No matter what country. You can not import a dog under 6 months as of aug. 1 …period.

This is straight from the CDC. Make sure you do your research before flying off the handle.

As long as we don’t have a truth in broadcast news law, we will have fake Fox propaganda infecting our country with multiple other noxious right wing outlets poisoning minds 24/7. The right wing is still supporting an outright incompetent criminal for the highest office in our country, which is simply unbelievable.

That's for sure.

and looking for a politician to give you your rights is also not right