Yea

Yup, the love of money is the root of all evil

True 👍

@@MatthewDavidson03 ye

That's why we need people with good morals to lead companies

It spreads via jar files, its unlikely curseforge was the only target.

also bukkit

@@wo0zee533 and moderanth

@@LeroxYT modrinth could find no malicious mods with that virus on their platform, their staff ran a scan

Its most likely just targeted at the entire modding community in general.

I hate "support" forums. ether you wait an eternity for a response, or get a useless one. I don't need help "later" i need it now!

Yeah I just recently got into mods as I just got a pc and I exclusively use modrinth it’s super simple and just awesome

the day twitch bought curse it was destined to go to ruins and shambles, i use to have a giant server(voice chat) in curse app and i hated every bit of the twitch changes

Late stage capitalism is structured to function this way. When greed is rewarded sadly people will do bad things

@@hadrian.2796late stage capitalism? We're not even in the middle stage. Greed has always been a human issue, and is hardly argue greed is good for a business. Curseforge/twitch/ every company with a monopoly eventually fails due to poor quality product and complacency until a competitor arrives to challenge them again, that's just capitalism

The sheer willpower needed to resist greed. Most people dont have it

​@@Jiub_SNActually, yeah, you're so right about this. I was about to argue that this was definitely the late stages of capitalism because the only way you can progress in it is to get so greedy you take over everything and destroy it, but they haven't even gotten there yet. All capitalism is guaranteed to become the story of Icarus; they fly too close to the sun, burn up, and then crash into the ocean below. But they haven't even succeeded in having a completely locked down monopoly yet. Somehow they're already burning up before they could even bleed the community dry, and idk if it's incompetence on their part or a surprising amount of awareness from the community. Maybe a combo of both? I'm kinda proud. Hopefully Modrynrh works out better.

1 we're in late stage capitalism, it's 2023 not 1950 2 no greed is directly beneficial for your business especially if there are no alternatives, people won't stop using Facebook because there is no alternative, they can do whatever they want and people would still use Facebook, it's the same here, the only difference is that curseforge isn't big enough

"The original people who care" doesn't really work considering if they cared they wouldn't have sold out in the first place.

@@IamMortuithe only problem with your statement is that if they desperately NEED money they’ll have to sell it, or become homeless with a lot of company buyouts.

@@frozenolafnick5813 They never desperately needed money though and that argument doesn't work. Because if they were homeless they would not be on a computer hosting a website that was VERY popular and made TONS of revenue from just ADS alone. Nice try.

@@IamMortui frozen said they'll have to sell it or BECOME homeless not that they were.

​@@IamMortuiYou also fail to realize, most of the times when companies "sell out" they need it to maintain updates or to expand their team for better updates. Money doesn't just come out of nowhere especially when you become an employer.

I just made a server using it hah, god damn it.... I am still going to use CurseForge for the server though as this is way easier for my use case and is already set up.

same lol

"modded minecraft server using curseforge" please make the distinction between "Forge", the modloader, and "CurseForge", the mod distribution site, as they're 2 completely separate things

@@rosemary1541 why would you assume they meant forge? the players of the server could be using the cursed forge launcher to easily have a separate instance for the mod pack like many people do.

@@thephoenixking1086 i just worked on a mod pack with this…

it took me a few hours last week to find a working maven repo for hwyla, I really hope modrinth gets this right

You can do this already with the curseforge launcher

@@CoreTestines I've always had issues with curseforge API lol, not had really anything go wrong with modrinth

what is maven?

@@tooru a software build automation tool

The GPL family of licenses were made to prevent any entity from controlling the software licensed by it and any derivatives of it, this includes the author themselves. I don't know why the author would license it under the LGPL and then expect to have exclusive control, as the license is designed to prevent that. It ensures that software legally cannot be taken away from the community that wishes to use it or improve upon it. If someone takes the mod and improves, the original author should be glad of that, for it gives people better software.

Also Modrinth is way faster than CurseForge

Yes, but files and stuff, and I’m too lazy to do all dat (I will prob switch tho)

modrinth is also actually used for setting mod dependencies for mods developed on top of the fabric api

While not used by the average player, the API is top-notch as well. I only use ~20 mods, but get all of them from Modrinth, with the exception of Litematica and WorldEdit because they are not available there.

iv used both every now and again i use curseforge the most because of friends but prefer modrinth

Same i didnt update since 19.2 i had luck

We gotta wait till those exist my guy

Same

Careful about updating right now-there’s been a serious virus going around

shit i just updated

They still require all mods in a pack to be from Curseforge, though. No mixing in downloads from Modrinth are allowed.

@@benjaminmiddaugh2729wait that’s why, I’ve been having so many problems with this exact scenario and was so confused why it doesn’t work

@@Akhimed There are apparently a few approved exceptions (Sodium being the major one I know of). I don't know what's on the list or where to find it, though.

@@benjaminmiddaugh2729 yea cause sometimes I would try search mods in curseforge to try to mix with some modrinth ones and it never worked only showed me mod packs

Yooo Knarfy! I'm a huge fan. Glad to see we got someone like you on our side.

half of it isn't even true anymore lmao

Oh hey kool it's Knarfy

Nobody cares about origin realms sadly

​@@sylv512 "anymore"? A lot of it just flat out isn't true to begin with. For instance the claim that viruses got spread through compromised curseforge accounts, which just isn't true. The virus was designed to spread to other .jar files on your system so mod developers, who tend to download and use a lot of .jar files, would get infected, and then the virus would copy itself into their in-development versions of the mods before upload. It was phrased like it was an issue with curseforge and their security, but it wasn't even remotely related to that. It'd be like blaming walmart because you got the flu there from other customers.

When I ran Better MC (Forge) BM3 with complementary shaders (yes I didn't get malware, this was a couple days ago.) I got 80/90 fps with freezing frames on Curseforge launcher. Then I did it with ATlauncher and I got 100-200 fps and no freezing. If that doesn't say something about Curseforge then idk what does.

The legacy version is here half of the time cuz it's still under rework and some pages were not replaced atm ...

​@@Ihave0braincellz AT and any MultiMC fork are just way better honestly

@@Ihave0braincellz honestly thats not possible because after launching minecraft nothing seperates the launchers anymore. Minecraft doesnt care what its launched by, UNLESS you set a custom java version and/or custom JVM arguments in the launchers settings, which can be done on both (although changing java itself on curseforge is not easy to do)

@@commander3494 "I like your funny words, magic man." - JFK, Clone High. No but seriously. The most likely reason for AT performing better than CF is because when launching Minecraft, CF makes some errors (learned this from Lunapixel.) AT supposedly makes less errors than CF so the performance is better.

And what is wrong with nexusmods?

​@teratokomi8731 everything. Oh my god try modding fallout 4.

@@tearex8688 That doesnt answer the question at all.

​@tearex8688 I don't understand I have like 400 mods and the game is actually stable.

@@tearex8688 thats just the game my guy, coming from a man who has been modding fallout 4 and skyrim since release.

There isn't any real exodus. ONE person and a small clique split off, and they themselves were so toxic that fabric didn't last more than a few years before its entire community (such as it is) split again into quilt. Every serious content mod for minecraft is on Forge. The forge community is about minecraft, the fabric community is about how much it hates forge.

@@superslash7254 as small as it was it had some good mods that dropped support for forge. But yeah, modding community should be about the game.

For a user you're getting effectively double the Ads as a result. Before Modrinth eventually gets owned by someone it will be fine. Then we just have 2 Curseforges. Modrinth is less then a 1 piece of tissue paper on a serious wound. There isn't anything wrong with standing up for yourself, but it is just going to make everything worse still unless society grows and stops going off the deep end.

I'll second that. There was a lot of backlash at the beginning (Forge is evil, go to Fabric!), but my experience with Fabric has been... disappointing to say the least. I personally never used Fabric because their lack of experience did not make me want to try it. Rightfully so. A couple weeks ago, I tried creating a Fabric profile to use MiniHUD (which discontinued support for Forge) and low and behold, Fabrig is plagued with compatibility issues between the loader, the API and to mods themselves. I play in 1.20.1 and the optifabric mod for 1.20.1 has compatibility issue with the latest available version of the loader and the API for 1.20.1 so I had to try older versions of them until I found a working version... Talk about user experience. Result of it: went back to Forge and I use the fabric profile only when I need miniHUD, I mark what I need and switch back to the forge install.

@@superslash7254 the fabric modding community is very much alive. A lot of insanely good performance and content mods are only available for fabric (and via modrinth). And forge is still a legal (and technical) minefield from a devs POV. Forge is IMO just... worse and they should have just discontinued it after Fabric gained traction.

Its imortant, that you informate us

HAHA MY COMMENT WAS BEFORE YOUR COMMENT

As a person who uses mods i think you did very well by spreading the word. Honestly it wont be bad to do this sort of informational videos about minecraft in general. This both alerts people of important news and gets you some much deserved views. Perhaps do it more often :)

ures still bluedragonnuke

sad

Same

same

After hearing this, I finally understand that not even the most trusted ones are clean

​@@smokeys1254 fracturiser can spread between jar files, so yes, not all mods are safe and you should check

Same, even though I’m 1 month late.

Me too :l

.. i just wanted to play skyblock

Same

Um Me Too

Hi ModMuss I love your work. keep being awesome

LiNa Modrinth

Well you should

Modrinth is shit

2nd comment on Rasplins comment check

Third hi rasplin ◡̈⋆🅷🅸(●’◡’●)ﾉ😊

Rasplin!

Rasplin, when new video?

@@notallthatskilled no one cares

Lol 😂

you could move the mods manually especially if any of those mods are no longer supported they won't be moved

How did they sabotage themself ?

​@@teezy1234Have you watched video?

Wha

Curse forge isn’t bad it’s just the hacker using malware from it

The moderators are also kinda unfriendly. At least mine... I tried uploading a modpack, and they were not really friendly

Much like any Purplers video

@@toniee98 fr

Lot of outdated / misinformation + explaining for 3 minutes why something is bad to end up in a sentence to explain why in fact it was logical for CF to do it, isn't the best way to prevent useless hate yeah

@@armin0427 I think you need to realize that logical doesn't mean good

@@LineOfThy i think you need to realise that you don't make money from not making a logical choice. Restricting their API wasn't especially ideal but between that and knowing all devs would have earned at least 30 to 50% less money as one myself, sometime you need to make a restrictive choice, and talking for 3 minutes of how bad this idea was before saying "oh btw i said that but yeah it's true that without that they would have lost a huge part of their main money making method, so they were kinda forced to do that" is only a way to antagonize CF for no reason. Saying modrinth don't do this kind of stuff is stupid since modrinth benefits way more of being able to use mods on CF than the other way around, and I doubt that CF love the idea of not only losing money but also giving free money to concurrent for no other reason than "some peoples will find that nice"

@@armin0427 exactly. So why are you suggesting that purples was contradicting himself?

@@LineOfThy because showing a logical choice under the prism of evilness only raise fee hate and misperception of this informations

Fabric was made because of some forge modloader issues or coding specifics that hindered some modders. Now there is also another mod loader called Quilt with some mods being Quilt only as well. Thankfully, this one has support for 99% of fabric mods so it isn't really an issue in terms of low mod author use. I was also very very hesitant about moving from Forge, but Sodium + Iris mods has been such an upgrade for me. Many essential type mods and Fabric/Quilt equivalent versions of other favorite mods are out now that the switch is easier to try. Another big plus was that MultiMC has support for all modloaders, making installation super easy. Now Im back to waiting for some mods to update to newer MC versions like before lol

I think it's already under control now so no need (Curseforge's words)

He did; he just didn't name it by name

Curseforge has nothing to do with it…. It’s an .jar virus so it can happen anywhere

I have to use it for 1.12.2, because 1..12.2 versions of mods aren't on modrinth

?

Java is the larger part of the youtube section of the game. There are like 2 big bedrock youtubers in the community.

@@rexyjp1237 That doesn't really sound like danger, that just sounds like people making videos on the version they prefer

@@1unar_eclipse (I don't think they were responding to you)

@@GrantGryczan Ah

GD launcher auto downloads some dependencies but not all dependencies. I don’t fully understand it but they basically download dependencies they themselves trust. Besides that they have an check for updates button and an update all mods button, they kinda make the second thing you want pointless.

I had luck i only had better mc (forge) bm1

there were only 6000 downloads of the malware across the entire website

Glad that better mc got targeted since the modpack is mid and overrated

@@frankierodriguez866 I disagree but it's your opinion.

Apparently this virus laid dormant for a few weeks before getting discovered yesterday. I also can't explain why my Better MC isn't infested though.

Well, Modrinth is also more Fabric-heavy and encourages people to use Fabric, because it's more modern and most devs on there use it, while CurseForge literally has Forge in the name.

@@radstevee True hopefully it does cause a move to fabric though I wish all mod creators could get together and switch to fabric but I get that will never happen

@@radstevee fabric is heavily unstable

@@frankierodriguez866 me after spreading misinformation

@@baconiumo it really isn’t misinformation ive crashed a lot more with fabric than forge.

can you elaborate

@@distendedmist5840 look for ProspectorModrinth's comment in the comment section

​@@distendedmist5840 Outdated information, and also the virus is not a fault of CF and they dealt with it

It's also got a very clickbait title; the video has absolutely nothing to do with its title.

@@Aphelia. You could have just linked the comment btw... I was interested in this, but I am not scrolling this ass long comment section to find this one comment you're talking about...

As a mod developer with over 10 mil total downloads, that's a way better rate than I'm getting.

​@@mcsmileycorp I know you. You developed LDoH and Dawncraft. I've spend hundreds of hours playing those, especially LDoH. Thank you for your hard work there!

modpack dev = slapping mods developed by others together and getting money for it, you should be fucking happy to get a hundred bucks for that

​@@Bipbip2109 it's waaay more than that.

@@Swirluser1 mad noname

ye, I would prefer if everyone just stayed in one area so I don't need to hop around websites and launchers and shit just to play a fucking block game without getting bored.

@@ligma6992 The key takeaway here is that competition is good. Whether people want to stick with CF or try something new, the fact that there are viable options will always be better than putting your eggs all in one basket.

I already did lol,it's really faster when it comes to downloading.On CurseForge when you download a mod online,you have a 5 seconds timer.On Modrinth you just click download and that's it!

Yes, there is definetely hope. There have been many incredible optimization mods made recently (sodium, lithium, starlight, ferritecore, modernfix, to name a few) that greatly improve the games performance making it run with so much less resources

Sodium is utterly insane for optimization of modern versions, and if you want something to make older versions just a tinge better than they used to be, Ears, despite being primarily a Fabric mod that modifies skin rendering for extra features, also has Forge backports that let 1.9+ skins render in 1.8 and earlier. Both of these are entirely clientside, and don't effect gameplay outside of what the individual lone player sees, and thus could be used even on Vanilla servers without issue or tripping anticheat.

Aye....does it have a lot of the mods of curseforge...i have mods i like...unless i manually moved files over from curseforge to mondrith...

​@@tearex8688 Most of the mods on there can be found in both places, albeit Modrinth is more Fabric/Quilt-centric. This isn't because of the site itself, but simply the community who upload there. That said, CurseForge is obviously still the larger platform, not even counting a large back catalog of mods for older game versions that are no longer maintained contributing to its higher numbers. To give an idea from a practical standpoint, I use ~20 mods total in a typical game (Fabric), and only have to go to CurseForge for two of them (namely Litematic and WorldEdit). Literally every other mod I use is on Modrinth.

​@@NotRyken why not make a virus that spreads from actual proximity to other mods?

Why discord?

@@alpuxr.l.not OP and a bit late to the party but: - rampant inappropriateness with minors going unchecked - rampant racism and bigotry going unchecked to the point that they were connected to the planning of a white nationalist meeting and a shooting - multiple changes to mod tools that make it harder to keep said bad people away - and much, much more.

Most likely :/

Modrinth is worse