Putting Canada's 30 Season Cup Drought Into Perspective

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The Hockey Guy

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16 күн бұрын

I have seen all of the memes about the Cup residing in the US, but it's not as simple as that.
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@ryguy6577
@ryguy6577 14 күн бұрын
it’s been so long that patrick marleau, NHL history’s most games played guy, played an entire career from draft to retirement (with wiggle room on both sides!) without seeing a canadian cup champ
@nickholmes5610
@nickholmes5610 14 күн бұрын
*Sad Canadian Noises*
@lanemars
@lanemars 14 күн бұрын
Nail yakupov has never been alive for a Canadian teams Stanley cup win and he's wayyyy out of the league
@ThnkQ
@ThnkQ 14 күн бұрын
@@lanemarsOilers have had lots of high picks, this century. Nail nailed his own NHL cough cough in
@jkliao6486
@jkliao6486 14 күн бұрын
Now that you've put it that way...
@JoeLouis-hc7mm
@JoeLouis-hc7mm 14 күн бұрын
Think it's just bad luck for canadian teams
@neeltheother2342
@neeltheother2342 14 күн бұрын
Babe, wake up. It's madness board time!
@trisgilmour
@trisgilmour 14 күн бұрын
Yea!
@chrisbelos2834
@chrisbelos2834 14 күн бұрын
nothing more iconic that a board with "1967" and " lost Rd.1" next to a Leafs magnet
@Borodin410
@Borodin410 14 күн бұрын
The refs benefit from expansion. More expansion, more refs, more power. Canadian teams winning the Cup does not increase the popularity of the game in the US, and so does not support expansion. The refs know what to do. Support Bettman's plan to sell hockey to NASCAR dads. They don't have to be told.
@brAnd7onX87
@brAnd7onX87 14 күн бұрын
@@Borodin410 This is the dumbest thing I have read today. Thank you.
@Borodin410
@Borodin410 14 күн бұрын
@@brAnd7onX87 Look it up. Canadian teams, before Bettman, were penalized in an even distribution. Ever since Bettman took over they are all collected near the top of the league in penalties.
@HarryRiceHockey
@HarryRiceHockey 14 күн бұрын
@@Borodin410 Sure thing buddy lmao. That explains why the Ducks, Panthers, Coyotes, and Wild were top 4 in penalties and Montreal was 5th, Ottawa was 6th and they both have an enforcer on board so it makes sense why they're near the top. You clearly don't like the fact that Winnipeg was near the bottom of the league in terms of penalized teams. Most of the Canadian teams were more so in the middle for last season. It's kind of funny you clear the NHL wants to help their newer markets when the Islanders, Penguins, and Blues were some of the least penalized teams in the league, and it makes sense. It's almost like if your team holds an enforcer or a very physical player (or multiple), your team will take more penalties wow who would have thought!!
@Borodin410
@Borodin410 14 күн бұрын
@@HarryRiceHockey One season in isolation. Look at penalties taken in the playoffs by Canadian teams vs US teams since Bettman took over.
@Pyrospriter042
@Pyrospriter042 14 күн бұрын
Can't believe you got a Utah jersey early! Very cool they went with the "Utah Hockey Guys", hopefully you're getting some type of royalty!
@LSA30
@LSA30 14 күн бұрын
Low-key a better name than Yeti or Blizzard😂
@KINGPOOPS
@KINGPOOPS 14 күн бұрын
Utah HG > Utah HC
@TheHeston83
@TheHeston83 13 күн бұрын
@@LSA30 Yeti is betther than Hockey Club or Blizzard
@dustyb58
@dustyb58 14 күн бұрын
I feel like Winnipeg breaking the curse would piss the most people off so that's what I want.
@beaverchicken
@beaverchicken 14 күн бұрын
I've always thought it'd be Winnipeg or Ottawa to break the curse, just because that'd be funniest and no one would expect it
@bradenkalke2500
@bradenkalke2500 14 күн бұрын
@dustyb58 many variables would be funny if the Jets won, no doubt. But the Leafs doing it would "piss off" the most people. For suuuuuuure 😂 Im a Canucks fan btw 🙃
@vipeholmskolan6052
@vipeholmskolan6052 13 күн бұрын
Leafs would piss off the most people by winning.
@JohnnySportsfan
@JohnnySportsfan 13 күн бұрын
Edmonton or Toronto for me.
@user-te9ni9hp7f
@user-te9ni9hp7f 13 күн бұрын
Why
@dfp_01
@dfp_01 11 күн бұрын
The most important aspect of building a Cup contender is triple-checking that you haven't inadvertently signed Corey Perry
@patch8376
@patch8376 14 күн бұрын
It's crazy that from 95 to 98 there were 4 consecutive years of 4-0 sweeps in the cup final. No wonder people wanted to go back to 1-16, especially 96-98 when the "real cup final" felt like it had been played in an earlier round between the likes of Colorado and Detroit.
@Ansible2
@Ansible2 14 күн бұрын
I'm just stunned that there were four sweeps in the Stanley Cup Final in a row 😆.
@NickAdams1981
@NickAdams1981 14 күн бұрын
...and none since 98...
@klompsauce
@klompsauce 14 күн бұрын
LGRW 🐙🐙🐙🐙
@DodgerFan1988
@DodgerFan1988 14 күн бұрын
And three game sevens in a row in the SCF during the mid-2000's.
@SortaNonymous
@SortaNonymous 12 күн бұрын
​@@DodgerFan1988 The last two of them having teams from the south winning their first Cup while defeating Alberta teams whose last cups came back-to-back (Calgary in '89 and Edmonton in '90)
@NickAdams1981
@NickAdams1981 14 күн бұрын
There's actually 11 first-time champs in that timeframe, 2012 was the first for the Kings...
@ja3188
@ja3188 14 күн бұрын
You forgot the LA Kings, it was their 1st cup in 2012
@mjsteele42
@mjsteele42 12 күн бұрын
@@ja3188 I was coming here to say this. I was surprised that he missed that. THG is usually so accurate
@dfp_01
@dfp_01 11 күн бұрын
I always forget that Gretzky didn't win one down there
@tommyjack6425
@tommyjack6425 14 күн бұрын
So many people blame Bettman as if he is moving chess pieces around with Refs to make sure Canadian teams don't win lol. I don't think most people know he works for the owners.
@TheHeston83
@TheHeston83 14 күн бұрын
yeah also as THG pointed the League would lose money by rigging games
@davidwordsworth5584
@davidwordsworth5584 14 күн бұрын
Bettman works for money. more money to be made in the US hence he is inclined to support conditions that support the US.
@beaverchicken
@beaverchicken 14 күн бұрын
​@@TheHeston83and Hockey seems like an incredibly hard game to rig. Especially considering the amount of staff needed to run these games, the outcomes being pre-determined WITHOUT ever being leaked seems like an impossibility
@beaverchicken
@beaverchicken 14 күн бұрын
​@@davidwordsworth5584Isn't Toronto the 2nd most profitable franchise? Montreal is up there too. If he wanted money he'd send those teams to the finals and would cash in BIG time
@nathanbrisebois8756
@nathanbrisebois8756 14 күн бұрын
It's not a single force preventing canadian forces from winning, it's alot of factors, namely higher taxes, and its a sheer numbers game at the end of the day, there's only 7 canadian teams of 32 teams, and even before expansions, there have generally been more American teams, that skews the odds in American teams' favor.
@darcycordell2757
@darcycordell2757 13 күн бұрын
I feel like one thing you neglected to mention is that nearly every Canadian team has made it to the final during the drought (Vancouver '94, Calgary '04, Oilers '06, Ottawa '07, Vancouver '11, Montreal '21, Oilers '24). Not only that, but five of those series went to 7 games (Calgary, both Oilers, and both Vancouver). Game 7 of the Stanley Cup Final means anything can happen when a few bounces go your way, and its really shocking that none of those four teams could get the job done! That's what makes it feel like a curse for me. *None* of the American teams on the right side of your board have made it to Game 7 of the final during the drought. (Although four of them have made it to the final (Philly '97, Buffalo '99, Philly '10, San Jose '16, Nashville '17)).
@BloodRider1914
@BloodRider1914 14 күн бұрын
Who knows, maybe Paul Maurice blessed the Jets for next season when he wished they would win a cup
@GoJays
@GoJays 14 күн бұрын
I will never not laugh at the fact an American team has won the Grey cup more recently than a Canadian team has won the Stanley Cup
@raytaylor6412
@raytaylor6412 14 күн бұрын
And that team (Baltimore Stallions) moved to Montreal after winning the Grey Cup.
@Newbobdole
@Newbobdole 14 күн бұрын
The Baltimore Stallions’ success played a HUGE role in us getting the Ravens not long after
@bryanthomas7022
@bryanthomas7022 14 күн бұрын
They saw to it in the CFL that An American based team made it to the Grey Cup, right out of the gate. Much like they did with the NHL during their 1968 expansion. The NHL actively works to ensure we see 2 American based teams whenever they can. The day before the League looked the other way on the Wayne Gretzky High stick that cut Doug Gilmour under his chin for 7 stitches, in OT of game 6 of the 93 Conference Final, with the Leaf's up 3 games to 2 and Montreal already clinching as the Eastern Conference representative, the American Networks had announced that their would be no Stanley Cup Final coverage if it were to be the Leaf's vs Hab's. Gretzky should have got 5 and a game and the Leaf's who were short handed at the time, should have had a 4 minute PP after about a minute of 4 on 4 had expired. But the Kings were protected and there was no call and Gretzky himself was allowed to stay on the ice and score the Kings PP OT winner, seconds later. That happened, whether you like it or not. BTW, the Leaf's swept the season series with the Hab's that year. A Finals against them would have been a favorable match-up for Toronto.
@BloodRider1914
@BloodRider1914 14 күн бұрын
Also keep in mind that the Blue Jays won the World Series twice, the Raptors won the NBA Finals, and Toronto FC has won the MLS cup in the meantime
@marcpower4167
@marcpower4167 14 күн бұрын
​@BloodRider1914 well the jays last world championship was in 93. Ironically the same year Montreal won the Stanley cup. So it's also been 31 years since a Canadian team won an MLB world series, granted the blue jays are the only Canadian team currently, but the Montreal Expos didn't move to Washington until 2005.
@September2004
@September2004 14 күн бұрын
1:30 Kansas City Scouts actually entered in 1974 with the Capitals. (1972 was Islanders and Atlanta Flames.)
@markhodge7
@markhodge7 14 күн бұрын
I've been watching this silly game since '66, I have to agree with your view of Quick's run. He was almost a video game at times. Not Dryden, Smith, Fuhr, Roy, Hasek, Brodeur or Crawford and Fleury, absolutely stole as many games in the playoffs, as did Jonathan Quick.
@RelaxingGhost
@RelaxingGhost 14 күн бұрын
This was also The Kings first
@justinz39sabres
@justinz39sabres 14 күн бұрын
i was about to comment to same thing but i’m only half way through so i wasn’t sure if he was guna fix it or not lol
@tjolsonmcse
@tjolsonmcse 14 күн бұрын
@@justinz39sabres Took 45 years
@russell-di8js
@russell-di8js 14 күн бұрын
Welcome to the Hockey Guy's house of fun!!!
@chrisstorment1123
@chrisstorment1123 13 күн бұрын
The oilers remind me of the 89-90 Chicago bulls. Jordan didn't get his first championship til he was 30. When he and Pippen figured out how to win that was it for the rest of the league, for a long while.
@ShaunAnderson_Sauce
@ShaunAnderson_Sauce 13 күн бұрын
"they would have re hired them and fired them again" love it lol
@LouieNJ
@LouieNJ 14 күн бұрын
Man if NJ could have only gotten a split at home in one of those 2 OT games that series would have looked different. 2 posts in the one game, but wasn't meant to be. Quick felt unbeatable.
@boriskovtun6094
@boriskovtun6094 13 күн бұрын
Agreed. However, the 2001 finals stang worse for me. That collapse after taking a 3-2 lead in the series and with game 6 at home was surreal.
@sheldoncedwardthibault3599
@sheldoncedwardthibault3599 14 күн бұрын
In my lifetime I'd love to see a Buffalo v Vancouver SCF! I'm 55!
@JonDoe-ln6nl
@JonDoe-ln6nl 14 күн бұрын
As a Sabres fan, I think the series would be called off at 3-3 so neither team would win. Sigh. 😢
@RRaquello
@RRaquello 14 күн бұрын
Funny thing is right up to 94, the Canadian teams dominated winning the Cup. If we start in 1955, when the Red Wings won their 4th cup in seven years, and go to 94, Chicago won once, Boston won twice, Philly won twice, the Islanders won 4 times and Pittsburgh won twice. That's 11 cups to US teams out of 39, and most of that time the US teams outnumbered Canadian teams at least 2-to-1. When I was growing up I attributed this to the Canadian teams being more serious about winning while the American teams just liked to party & get drunk (having heard lots of stories, especially about the Bruins). And in those days, ALL the players in the league were Canadian, except for Tommy Williams. It's just that when they played for Canadian teams they were there to win, but when they came south of the border it was all for fun (and money).
@BMXIX
@BMXIX 14 күн бұрын
Bettman put an end to that nonsense lol.....As a Habs fan he's gotta go
@RRaquello
@RRaquello 14 күн бұрын
@@BMXIX In the case of the Canadiens, they have qualifications irrelevant to competence in building a team, unique to their team, that may keep them from hiring the best man for coach, GM, team president, etc. That is, they have to speak French. It seems to me this is also the case with other Canadian teams. Not the "speak French" part, but political (and business) considerations that have nothing to do with running a hockey team keep them from hiring the best man for the job. US teams usually aren't held to the same constraints and this has helped them be more successful over the last 30 years.
@lordrayden3045
@lordrayden3045 14 күн бұрын
@@BMXIX Right….. bettman Sure thing
@dunnowy123
@dunnowy123 13 күн бұрын
Yeah, if you were to tell someone in 1984 or something that Canadian teams wouldn't hoist the Stanley Cup for an unbroken period of 31 FUCKING YEARS, they'd probably think you were on something. It's utterly bizarre.
@MDK2_Radio
@MDK2_Radio 13 күн бұрын
@@RRaquello if you really look at it, it’s just that dynasties were easier to assemble then, and it just happened that two of them were home in Canadian cities.
@AgAg-yn3cv
@AgAg-yn3cv 14 күн бұрын
Ohhh Canada…
@MrBlazemaster525
@MrBlazemaster525 14 күн бұрын
That Tampa-Montreal Cup Final will always be odd to me for the novelty of two Wales teams playing for the Cup
@kokocaptainqc
@kokocaptainqc 14 күн бұрын
habs did something no other team has been able to or will ever be able to do again....an eastern team won the western trophy
@Conquistador1519
@Conquistador1519 14 күн бұрын
"I could see Vegas winning another (Stanley cup), which I'm sure everybody will have a completely rational reaction to" made me laugh out loud. You're so based, honestly, in your takes. Love your videos man!
@BloodRider1914
@BloodRider1914 14 күн бұрын
I don't hate Vegas, they have real hockey fans there who do properly love their team.
@desertfox486
@desertfox486 14 күн бұрын
The Cup is quite old and prefers to live in Florida at this stage in its life.
@dorksn
@dorksn 13 күн бұрын
Thank you Shannon for an amazing video! Puts things nicely into a perspective.
@BoyNamedSue4
@BoyNamedSue4 14 күн бұрын
Its madness. Total madness. And I love it.
@Hoovie9596
@Hoovie9596 14 күн бұрын
These people who keep saying Bettman won’t ALLOW a Canadian team to win the Cup. There’s NO conspiracy. What do you think he’s doing? Going into the Canadian team dressing rooms and ordering them to lose ?
@Newbobdole
@Newbobdole 14 күн бұрын
My headcanon is that Bettman impishly traipses around the locker rooms during the playoffs, pulling sick pranks on the Canadian NHL teams Like, electric shocker in his palm for handshakes, a lapel flower that sprays water, whoopee cushions on the benches…the whole nine yards
@danieljow3510
@danieljow3510 12 күн бұрын
This video obviously took a ton of time and effort. Well done!
@Moekoffee2001
@Moekoffee2001 14 күн бұрын
From rabbit hole to beyond the looking glass! I’m in as usual
@flattrack33
@flattrack33 14 күн бұрын
Thank you for posting this on July 4th Weekend. We in the US are smiling as we watch this video!
@adam.vision
@adam.vision 13 күн бұрын
Your smiling because a Canadian team hasn't won in over 30 years? Nice.
@flattrack33
@flattrack33 13 күн бұрын
@@adam.vision bit funny, innit?
@4517onlyglory
@4517onlyglory 14 күн бұрын
It would be either Montreal or Edmonton break the thing
@olgak57
@olgak57 14 күн бұрын
I hope Montreal
@sonny99123
@sonny99123 14 күн бұрын
Honestly, no Canadian team has any chance during the salary explosion in the 90s. 2004 Flames, 2006 Oilers and 2021 Canadiens are total flukes. 2007 Sens and 2024 Oilers just aren't meant to be. 2011 Canucks had the best shot (up 2 games to none) but self destructed late in Game 3. Right now the Oilers and the Canucks have the best chance to end the drought, providing their key players can stay healthy. In the foreseeable future, I like the Sens.
@beaverchicken
@beaverchicken 14 күн бұрын
Didn't the the Flames and Oilers take it to 7 games in 2004 and 6? Calling that a fluke when Flames MIGHT'VE scored a cup winning goal that wasn't called.... Idk man
@Helvigster
@Helvigster 14 күн бұрын
@@beaverchicken ehh it was pretty much a fluke looking back at it now. 2004 was their first time they made it past Round 1 since their cup win, they had missed the playoffs about 6 or 7 seasons in a row before 2004, and they didn't even make it past Round 1 again until 2015. I'd say that's a fluke run
@kokocaptainqc
@kokocaptainqc 14 күн бұрын
@@beaverchicken i wouldnt call them flukes but id call them goalie epic runs tho
@PistonHeaven
@PistonHeaven 14 күн бұрын
2024 oilers wasn’t a fluke either you don’t get to game 7 of the SCF by luck
@dumbestoyster
@dumbestoyster 14 күн бұрын
Vancouver isn't making the playoffs in 24/25
@TheBoyer19
@TheBoyer19 14 күн бұрын
I feel like the Colorado avalanche's first Stanley cup could almost be considered a cup win for Canada
@lilPavs13
@lilPavs13 11 күн бұрын
Look at that the wings have the most cups in the last 30 years
@lilPavs13
@lilPavs13 11 күн бұрын
And it’s been 16 years
@JWex-jy7sk
@JWex-jy7sk 14 күн бұрын
Love how some people really blame Bettman as the reason for the drought and that he’s somehow 100% responsible for why the Oilers lost that Game 7 Nothing to blame on the Edmonton players and coaches…just Gary Bettman?
@Borodin410
@Borodin410 14 күн бұрын
The refs benefit from expansion. More expansion, more refs, more power. Canadian teams winning the Cup does not increase the popularity of the game in the US, and so does not support expansion. The refs know what to do. Support Bettman's plan to sell hockey to NASCAR dads. They don't have to be told.
@TheHeston83
@TheHeston83 14 күн бұрын
@@Borodin410 bad calls happen its not some conspiracy you just posted teams have been just good please I am american hockey fan stop making us the enemy
@Borodin410
@Borodin410 14 күн бұрын
@@TheHeston83 Before Bettman came in with the expansion mandate, Canadian teams were evenly distributed among the other teams in the league in terms of taking penalties. After Bettman, and since, Canadian teams have collected near the top of the league in taking penalties. The refs know what they're doing. So does Bettman.
@MDK2_Radio
@MDK2_Radio 14 күн бұрын
@@Borodin410your claim is demonstrably false. Please stop.
@JWex-jy7sk
@JWex-jy7sk 14 күн бұрын
@@Borodin410 Okay…so how does any of that explain Edmonton not being able to shoot a puck with accuracy into the net Game 7?
@kkkkkk-km7ss
@kkkkkk-km7ss 14 күн бұрын
Colorado is the only team with a perfect finals record
@INMATEofARKHAM
@INMATEofARKHAM 14 күн бұрын
Have you considered getting a team USA jersey for this yearly video? 😂
@ChickensinHighDef
@ChickensinHighDef 14 күн бұрын
I'm a Minnesotan, many Minnesotans have won the Cup over the years, but not the North Stars or the Wild. I hope both Minnesota and Canada break the droughts soon.
@jackyfudge5115
@jackyfudge5115 10 күн бұрын
I always say that the Wild is practically a Canadian team with the hockey culture. Sad to see the curse extends to it too...
@TheHeston83
@TheHeston83 14 күн бұрын
as an American Hockey fan I hope to see a Canadian Team hoist the Stanley Cup in my lifetime .
@raptor4916
@raptor4916 14 күн бұрын
Why? I hope the Cup naturalizes and renounces its Title so it just becomes Fred Stanley's Cup.
@aangoz5041
@aangoz5041 12 күн бұрын
"Gretzky called them a mickey mouse organization in the 80s" i love you hockey guy HA
@Crimsonfangg
@Crimsonfangg 14 күн бұрын
"I dont want to just sit here and dump on Canadian franchises." Cmon Shannon, why do you think we're all here?
@olgak57
@olgak57 14 күн бұрын
Exactly 😂
@user-nt8kj8wl5x
@user-nt8kj8wl5x 14 күн бұрын
great video, I cannot believe the canadiens have only been top 10 6 times...embarrassing
@benlee7864
@benlee7864 14 күн бұрын
Anaheim wasnt a favorite going into the 2007 playoffs? Are you kidding me? People were handing them The Cup in December 2006. 😂
@nathanbrisebois8756
@nathanbrisebois8756 14 күн бұрын
I am a Sens fan, I remember most people I talked to said we needed to be perfect in the SCF against them, and even still it might not be enough. That Anaheim Team was complete from the net out in every way, we were lucky to win 1 game against them
@nathanbrisebois8756
@nathanbrisebois8756 14 күн бұрын
Young Bobby Ryan in his prime, a young Corey Perry in his prime, Getzlaf in his prime, Silferberg in his prime, Scott Neidermayer and Chris Pronger as your top d pair, that Anaheim team was killer
@benlee7864
@benlee7864 14 күн бұрын
@@nathanbrisebois8756 Bobby Ryan wasn't on the Cup winning Anaheim team.
@CrimsonicStorm
@CrimsonicStorm 14 күн бұрын
@@nathanbrisebois8756 You clearly dont have a good memory lmfao. Bobby Ryan "in his prime"... you sure? Dude Bobby Ryan wasn't even on the team, let alone "in his prime". Ryan was *just* drafted in 2005. Silfverberg in his prime?? Bro, Silfverberg wasn't even drafted yet he was 16 years old, when Anaheim won the cup. Ottawa drafted Silfverberg in the second round in 2009 and traded him to the ducks in 2013... he wasn't even a duck until 2013... yet somehow you remember him beating your Sens in 2007...??
@nathanbrisebois8756
@nathanbrisebois8756 14 күн бұрын
@@CrimsonicStorm daydrunk my bad
@OneNationUnderGod.
@OneNationUnderGod. 12 күн бұрын
It's pretty simple really, Patrick Roy not only cursed the Canadians he cursed all of Canada! The question is when will he lift the curse?!?
@ryans413
@ryans413 14 күн бұрын
The oilers lost twice in the finals in game 7 to two teams that won there first Stanley Cups.
@Frizzyy
@Frizzyy 14 күн бұрын
Vancouver has also had 2 x game 7 L's during the drought
@tjolsonmcse
@tjolsonmcse 14 күн бұрын
@@Frizzyy I see 5 Game 7 loses by Canadian teams Oilers x2 Canucks x2 Flames x1
@nickr5311
@nickr5311 12 күн бұрын
And those two teams were both from the American South
@Pijonty
@Pijonty 14 күн бұрын
Sad reminder the only time Columbus finished in the top 10, they finished 4th. That was 3rd in their division. Finishing 4th in the NHL and not even getting home ice. Horrendous luck.
@dirk903
@dirk903 14 күн бұрын
Fully half the current NHL teams have not won in this time span. Under 1/3 of current NHL teams are Canadian. Not really a curse to me lol
@HDreamer
@HDreamer 14 күн бұрын
There's 32 teams in the league after all, if the Cup was awarded on a rotation, each team would win once in 32 years. But since that's not how it's done and the same teams win multiple times, there just have to be a lot of teams with long droughts.
@flowinginthewin3191
@flowinginthewin3191 14 күн бұрын
It's coming home. 30 years of hurt never stopped us dreaming.
@suestruve1786
@suestruve1786 14 күн бұрын
Watch out for Nashville this upcoming year !
@williammartin2349
@williammartin2349 14 күн бұрын
a Canadian team will not win a cup again until Montreal does first, they were the last to win therefor they have to be the one to break the curse. after they win we will start seeing more Canadian teams win more often but will not happen until Habs do first
@MDK2_Radio
@MDK2_Radio 14 күн бұрын
What are some of your other superstitions?
@powerhound
@powerhound 14 күн бұрын
Toronto and Buffalo feel like the most cursed.
@JaredLS10
@JaredLS10 14 күн бұрын
Must be something in the waters of Lake Ontario.
@JonDoe-ln6nl
@JonDoe-ln6nl 14 күн бұрын
Tell me about it (says this Sabres fan). I’m coming to terms with never seeing a Championship (Bills included). But it’s OK as long as (1) Toronto never wins (2) Vancouver (expansion twin) only wins after a Sabres miracle.
@Spanishflea.
@Spanishflea. 13 күн бұрын
I dunno man Ottawa feels real cursed.
@Tim5000x
@Tim5000x 11 күн бұрын
I'm sorry, I chuckled so hard at the Leafs "And of course they lost in the first round this year".
@buzzee9961
@buzzee9961 14 күн бұрын
Avs only team to go cup to rebuild to cup in this span. Would also like to see which cup winners had a #1 draft selection on their roster.
@MDK2_Radio
@MDK2_Radio 14 күн бұрын
Just off the top of my head, Avs had MacKinnon and Erik Johnson for the most recent one (though obviously they didn’t draft Johnson), Penguins had two (Crosby and Fleury) along with 2nd overall (behind Ovi) Evgeni Malkin, Capitals had Ovi.
@Mr.Ed_Wayner
@Mr.Ed_Wayner 14 күн бұрын
Good information.
@starkiller34
@starkiller34 14 күн бұрын
Yes, location has a small part to play, some players simply prefer to play in the US, that's a fact, and taxes/language sometimes comes into play. But if you think any of that is MORE of a factor than the league adding more teams and just globalization as a whole, you are kidding yourself. There is proportionally many less Canadians than then there ever was in the league, because there are more Americans, more Europeans, more Russians and heck, Asian players coming in. That's a good thing. That means the game, globally is getting healthier and healthier. The Czech Republic just won a gold medal at the worlds that no one saw coming, that's a good thing. It's called growth, and although it's MUCH slower than the other sports/leagues, it's there. Good.
@cows543
@cows543 10 күн бұрын
I think the 30 year Canadian cup drought is a top 5 favorite thing in sports for me
@jimmtl9736
@jimmtl9736 14 күн бұрын
It's insane there's billions of people that have not been alive long enough to see a Canadian team win the cup
@BobbyWhiting-hk8ds
@BobbyWhiting-hk8ds 10 күн бұрын
Shannon where do you get your magnets?
@peterolbrisch8970
@peterolbrisch8970 14 күн бұрын
Getting fired by the same company multiple times.... I never considered that....too late now. 😢😢😢😢
@bobantoniuk3953
@bobantoniuk3953 14 күн бұрын
The KC Scouts entered the league in 1974 (now New Jersey).
@BlakeWheelersBurnerAccount
@BlakeWheelersBurnerAccount 14 күн бұрын
Shannon loves to use 1994 as an important reference in time 🤭
@johnyoung8745
@johnyoung8745 11 күн бұрын
I swear I’ve read an article about how the flyers have been historically unlucky in their history and should’ve had more cups
@EluneMusic
@EluneMusic 14 күн бұрын
Here’s to another 30 🥂
@f15stroke
@f15stroke 14 күн бұрын
I honestly believe this isn't scripted and Shannon is pouring this knowledge out of his brain.
@ryanhillier107
@ryanhillier107 14 күн бұрын
I counted for fun, he has 440 magnets on that board
@cdfmmcc
@cdfmmcc 14 күн бұрын
Madness on both ends
@kokocaptainqc
@kokocaptainqc 14 күн бұрын
yep and 440 are good V8 engines....in engine you need ....OIL!...Oilers win next year! 😂
@RedWingsFanClub
@RedWingsFanClub 13 күн бұрын
Look at all those Winged Wheels up there.
@colekampschroeder746
@colekampschroeder746 5 күн бұрын
“Mickey Mouse organization” lol
@peterolbrisch8970
@peterolbrisch8970 14 күн бұрын
Anyone but Edmonton.
@ShantyIrishman
@ShantyIrishman 14 күн бұрын
Gelinas scored
@AnimalClans
@AnimalClans 14 күн бұрын
Where's the proof?
@joetoh6675
@joetoh6675 12 күн бұрын
Good point: 19 of 28 SC's for 6 teams. Cups are won in runs of dominance. I'd divide it by "team cores" though. The first two Av wins were by a totally different core from the most recent one. As was TBL's cores from their first SC and their two most recent.
@OldRustySteele
@OldRustySteele 13 күн бұрын
Hi Shannon! This video made me of the 6 expansion teams of 1967 and how relatively unsuccessful they’ve been other than the Penguins. Blues 1 Cup, Stars 1 Cup, Kings 2 Cups, Flyers 2 Cups, Seals/Barons defunct. Only the Penguins have as many as 5 Cups. In addition, many of them had severe financial troubles or needed to move. I think this could be a topic you could present.
@shawa666
@shawa666 14 күн бұрын
16 teams have not won. Of the 16, 7 are canadian, or 43.75% Considering that those canadian teams make 21.87% of the league, we can safely say that canadian teams are over-represemted in the "have not won the cup" subset. This is not an anomaly, this is by design.
@lordrayden3045
@lordrayden3045 14 күн бұрын
Yeah….. Real big brained comment there Feel free to expand on your conspiracy
@OldDistantHermit
@OldDistantHermit 13 күн бұрын
Tell me you don't know how probability works without saying it outright
@lordrayden3045
@lordrayden3045 13 күн бұрын
@@OldDistantHermit It’s incredible mental gymnastics
@redizit
@redizit 14 күн бұрын
Man I would love to see Vancouver win the cup but I do feel Edmonton is the favorite, Calgary and Winnipeg would be awesome as well, Montreal seems to be building a good pipeline, Ottawa building there core and Toronto seems to implode from within
@ishave1627
@ishave1627 14 күн бұрын
Here's a theory, especially for the more recent Cup champions. Canadian teams are highly reluctant to incorporate high-performing Russian superstars into their teams. Look at Bobrovsky, Kucherov, Vasilevsky, Ovechkin, Malkin, Taraschenko, etc. In fact, I can't recall a single Russian superstar ever playing for a Canadian team (but my memory is not that good). I call this the "Don Cherry Effect". There may be an inherent bias for Canadian teams to acquire top Russian players, which often makes a big difference.
@andreylopatin7230
@andreylopatin7230 14 күн бұрын
Pavel Bure was one, I guess? Vancouver in general seems to be incorporating plenty of russian players. So does Montreal I think. Markov and Emelin were the staples of their defence for years. Kovalev also played there significant time. Teams like Jets, Oilers, Flames don't use a lot of russian players indeed (although Oilers tried to draft Yakupov, to their credit. Did not end well for them). But I think they are just more canadian-leaning in general. I saw a chart that showed this year's Oliers were almost entirely canadian, which is pretty rare in today's league. Also, on the other hand, Boston is one of the least russian-friendly teams in the league, and they've been doing relatively well in the last 15 years. So I'm not sure there are any grand conspiracies in this regard.
@gp2k00
@gp2k00 14 күн бұрын
Pavel Bure for the Canucks (and he did play for them in the drought era).
@ishave1627
@ishave1627 14 күн бұрын
@@andreylopatin7230 I was referring to a more recent trend of SC winners, say in the last decade. The examples you gave me, like Bure (retired in 2003) and Boston (last SC cup in 2011), do not really address my point of recent SC winners having Russian superstars. Markov and Emelin were decent players, but not on the level of Russian superstars I gave in my list. I still stand by my hypothesis.
@MDK2_Radio
@MDK2_Radio 14 күн бұрын
@@ishave1627some of the guys you mentioned were can’t-miss top draft picks so Canadian teams didn’t have a chance at them unless it was via free agency years into their careers. And although I can’t speak for every team, my Avs never had a key Russian player during any of their Cup runs. I remember one Russian being on the 96 squad but he wasn’t a top player.
@ishave1627
@ishave1627 14 күн бұрын
@@MDK2_Radio I'm not saying you absolutely need a Russian superstar to win the Cup (like your Avs). And I know some of those players were top draft picks. but Kucherov was drafted 58th, so every team had a shot at him, Vasilevsky 19th, Tarasenko 16th and Bobrovsky was undrafted. And some Canadian teams have been pretty bad over the years so it can't be argued they didn't have high draft picks. The biggest implication here is that if certain teams exclusively "neglect" a geographical area containing high-end players, they're not availing themselves of the best talent pool. I don't know what goes on in the war rooms of Canadian NHL teams, and I'm pretty sure it's not explicitly said, it's just that it struck me as a pretty obvious roster coincidence that all of the Canadian teams don't seem to have Russian superstars.
@chrisxavier3147
@chrisxavier3147 14 күн бұрын
At this point, I don’t care who pulls it off
@atomiczam4066
@atomiczam4066 8 күн бұрын
Was really hoping you'd bring up Hossa during that 2008-2010 run. Lost win the Pens, moved to Detroit. Lost with Detroit, moves to Chicago. Finally wins it with Chicago and I don't think I've ever rooted against a team harder; partly as a Wings fan but most because losing in the Final 3 times in a row with 3 different teams would have been a hilarious record.
@WarioSaysSo
@WarioSaysSo 12 күн бұрын
# 1993 - Montreal Canadiens beats LA Kings = To date the last time a Canadian team won the Cup. # 1994 - NY Rangers beats Vancouver Canucks. # 2004 - Tampa Bay Lightning beats Calgary Flames. # 2006 - Carolina Hurricanes beats Edmonton Oilers. # 2007 - Anaheim Ducks beats Ottawa Senators. # 2011 - Boston Bruins beats Vancouver Canucks. # 2021 - TB Lightning beats Montreal Canadiens. # 2024 - Florida Panthers beats Edmonton Oilers. No Canadian based NHL team since 1993 have won a Stanley Cup championship, and in 30 seasons since then, ONLY 7 Finals have featured a Canadian NHL team, including Canucks & Oilers 2x each. Winnipeg Jets (both versions) have so far never managed to play a finals-series and the Maple Leafs have not been in the finals since 1967 = Record Finals Cup drought of 57 years and counting.
@jeffw6666
@jeffw6666 14 күн бұрын
weird question not to do with this video. Arizona is now Utah and starting from scratch. Do they still have to pay out the buyout penalty for retaing on o.e.l from the vancouver buyout??
@jmorrison230582
@jmorrison230582 14 күн бұрын
There is an element of bad luck to it. During the "drought" there have been nine 7-game finals, and a Canadian team has lost five of those (Canucks x2, Oilers x2, Flames).
@jamiesomerville8196
@jamiesomerville8196 14 күн бұрын
I think the Sens are shaping up well and could get there in a couple years. Need to see them make the playoffs this coming season, though!
@paladin677
@paladin677 14 күн бұрын
LA Kings fans knew it was going to be a drought. We still remember 1993. We will always remember!
@ronfehr7899
@ronfehr7899 13 күн бұрын
The only reason that St. Louis was in last place (regular season) during their Stanley Cup season was because they had played fewer games than any of the other teams at that point in the season.
@father042
@father042 14 күн бұрын
What's with those Stars and Red Wings stickers?
@michaellangille5815
@michaellangille5815 14 күн бұрын
@@father042 They're shimmering stickers. Don't know the technical term, but they have some special finish to reflect light
@AnimalClans
@AnimalClans 14 күн бұрын
Aside from the 2011 Canucks, was any Canadian tesm considered a favorite going into any playoffs, or even considered a favorite when they've reached the Final?
12 күн бұрын
Coincidentally, the 1994 NHL playoffs are considered the greatest of any of the major North American pro sports ever.
@TheMe9595
@TheMe9595 12 күн бұрын
I can use my age as a tracker for this since I was born in 93. Never in my lifetime has a canadian team won the cup.
@worldwiderelocationspecialist
@worldwiderelocationspecialist 5 күн бұрын
It also helps that with the NHL’s strict salary cap, that teams based in lower income taxed areas, such as states with no income tax (FL, TX, NV) would find a benefit with attracting better talent because they would keep more of their check when playing in a state like Florida; compared to playing in Canada where I know that people get taxed on their income a lot more. What the NHL can do is figure the fact that teams based in US states with no income tax have an advantage over NHL teams based in Canada, where income is taxed more and maybe give Canadian teams more salary cap cushion over a team like the Lightning or the Panthers, or factor in which NHL team is based in a city with the highest income tax rates out of all 32 NHL teams and give each team a different salary cap figure; to make things fair for all 32 teams
@stevelacroix2404
@stevelacroix2404 14 күн бұрын
This Minnesota fan feels your pain. We are as close to Canada as you can get when it comes to hockey. No cups and got the added bonus of watching my favorite team hoist the cup 6 years after they left us. Thank god for alcohol 🍻
@JanSobieskiIII
@JanSobieskiIII 13 күн бұрын
Samalis invading the twin cities and you’re drinking over sportsball……?
@TheHeston83
@TheHeston83 13 күн бұрын
Florida is now the State Of Hockey not shitty Minnesota
@stevelacroix2404
@stevelacroix2404 13 күн бұрын
Thanks for that. You really bring a lot to the discussion
@Zach3ry
@Zach3ry 13 күн бұрын
Bring back the Thrashers!
@Trigger200284
@Trigger200284 13 күн бұрын
It has to be taxes. There’s no other explanation for the drought besides maybe Gary pulling some strings to swing series on occasion.
@kashitumbapura6691
@kashitumbapura6691 14 күн бұрын
I love that my canes have finished top 3 the last 4 years and have 0 wins in the ecf 😁
@yesnooo9029
@yesnooo9029 14 күн бұрын
Me sitting in northern Oakland county looking at those red wings cups.... Damn it feels good to be a gangster
@ayroau
@ayroau 14 күн бұрын
Hated when Pittsburgh beat Preds in finals
@justinmercado6515
@justinmercado6515 13 күн бұрын
O Canada when will you win a Stanley Cup? Probably never.
@brientaylorcohen
@brientaylorcohen 14 күн бұрын
Someone (not THG, he gets it) needs to explain to me how it's Bettman's fault that the Canucks lost a Game 7 (twice), the Oilers lost a Game 7 (twice), the Flames lost a Game 7, the Senators and Habs couldn't even get to a Game 7, the Leafs (who got Auston Mathews even though lots of fans up north swore up and down the lottery would be "rigged" for Arizona) and Jets (who many fans up north blame Bettman for losing but don't credit him for returning??!) cant even get to a Final. Yep, all Bettman's fault.
@greensmadden13
@greensmadden13 12 күн бұрын
Once Canadian teams are in the final, anything can happen. The fact that they're 0-7 is an anomaly Gary continually expanding the league though into the US is a big problem for Canadian teams. It's more teams to play against, free agents going elsewhere, draft picks going south etc. All this for American cities where the NHL is the #4 or #5 sports league in town. Edmonton was a street party for three weeks
@staringatthesun861
@staringatthesun861 6 күн бұрын
That's the thing. When Canadian teams make the Final, it's almost always as the underdog. Of the 7 who've reached that point since 1994, only Vancouver had home-ice advantage. And they decided not to show up for their away games (in Boston), leaving them on thin ice. It'd be one thing if Canadian teams dominate and then inexplicably wilt in the Final. But the fact is they simply haven't been operating on as high a level as some of their American counterparts.
@Freemon34
@Freemon34 14 күн бұрын
14:18 I'm pretty sure they did do that in Claude Julien's case.
@kokocaptainqc
@kokocaptainqc 14 күн бұрын
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