I can just imagine Mythra and Addam having a father daughter argument Addam- That’s it, no more artifice for you young lady Mythra- SHUT UP, YOU’RE NOT EVEN MY REAL DAD I’m laughing way too much at the concept

mom he's making fanfiction again

Considering Pyra's character, I'm sure she's a composite of all the "good" traits that Mythra saw from all of the characters she traveled with rather than just one entity. But if I had to choose a character that formed the shell (as someone who hasn't played TTGC yet), I'd actually go with Haze. Primarily because they're both sweet and caring, but it could also explain why Rex was so attracted to her. It's very possible that when he looked at Haze he subconsciously saw another Pyra, even if it was faintly.

The most dubious thing about Pyra's awakening that I can think of is how Mythra managed to encode cooking skills into her despite not having any herself. The best explanation I can think of is that she's Aegis and can literally download Jin's cooking skills.

I had to read that title like a dozen times to finally understand wtf was going on

I personally always just saw Pyra as an embodiment of all that Mythra isn't. Pyra is gentle and sweet, a good cook, and well liked. Mythra is the complete opposite. She most likely, in her revulsion to her self and her own actions and their outcomes just inadvertently created a personality that was very different and yet everything she desired to be.

I personally see Pyra as Mythra's idea of "If I was like this, nothing would have gone wrong." But the idea that Pyra's personality was influenced by Mythra's view of Jin does makes sense as well.

We know that Addam has a kid. That being said, to me it seemed like he treated Mythra like one, particularly a brash teenage daughter who is going through her rebellious phase while he's doing his best as a dad.

I mean when I played Torna, I saw Mythra creating Pyra as an amalgamation of several traits from her teammates. Pyra got cooking skils from Aegeon and Jin, gentle kindness from Jin, Lora, and Haze, the fire element from Brighid, and her parental nature from Addam. Idk what she got from Minoth though.

I don’t think Pyra was based off of Jin. Mythra constantly tried to cook, and it’s later revealed that Mythra has very fond memories of Addam and the group. I always felt that Mythra had secretly wanted to be closer to them. After seeing Torna fall, it seems to make more sense that she used her data processing to decide that the world needed someone who wasn’t her. She wanted to be a good cook, Pyra was a good cook, she didn’t want to shut people out, Pyra was nice and polite, she didn’t want to be powerful, so she made her weaker. It seems like Mythra just wanted Pyra to be everything that Mythra couldn’t be. (I know it’s similar to what you said, and it may have been partially from Jin, but I think it was more off of what she wished she could be and not what Jin or anyone else already was)

There's a Torna Trading Card Game?! How hard is it to get a hold of Blue Eyes White Jin?!

Since aegises are likened to being a sentient computer or sorts, I like to think of Pyra and Mythra as being the same PC, but when Pyra was created, it's like putting an additional hard drive in, or creating a partition in a single hard drive.

Hmm. No I think Pyra was closer to Lora than Jin. I think Mythra observed both together and took the best of what she saw in each for her basis for Pyra.

Don't we get confirmation that herald was awakened by one of zeke's ancestors. I know we don't meet the driver in the game but we at least know of them.

ok so basically Pyra is Mythra's Mary Sue

I would love to see a “blades explained” video, even thought I already know a lot about them (especially from your videos haha) but I think it’s a great video idea. Keep it up luxin!

7:35 I love that there are two ways you could interpret “goes down” here that are both right

Lux-Lux will become crazy scientist when he all biggiepon. But crazy good, cause this seem legit. Friend keep teaching and preaching to us viewerpons.

Hey Luxin, we would definitely recommend you research DID/OSDD and plurality for when you talk about Pyra and Mythra. Because they have textbook OSDD-1b and PTSD, and understanding their plurality would be of great help in understanding them.

Okay legit, I had the idea that Mythra’s appearance and personality was sourced in Addam’s feelings toward his growing family- what he imagined a daughter might be manifested itself in Mythra. Something unpredictable, hard to control, and bratty. Mythra’s a bratty teenager because Addam was nervous about being a new parent. However, I think Pyra is, rather than based on Jin or anyone else really, is just the manifestation of Mythra’s grief causing her to despise herself- to make her wish she could not be herself anymore. And thus, Pyra is the direct opposite of Bratty Torna Mythra in almost every way- Mythra is brash, Pyra is measured. Mythra is arrogant, Pyra is humble. Mythra can’t cook, Pyra’s an amazing cook. Mythra’s a bratty teen, Pyra’s a nurturing mother-like figure. I believe Pyra’s personality is Mythra’s Aegis core basically creating a version of herself that Mythra does not hate- A version that wouldn’t have let Milton and Hugo die. A version that wouldn’t, nay, couldn’t have sunk the Tornan Titan by using Siren so recklessly.

I think I agree with these theorize. What more can I say, Luxin explains why the Aegis's act the way they do and with evidence to back it up.

My head hurts

Wait, when was it stated for a fact that Wulfric's first Driver was the Elder Arachno?

Aw pregnancy takes longer cause clause

Enjoyable vid. Dunno if I agree, but enjoyable none the less.

I’ve always thought that it seemed that Rex might be Addams descendant. Malos says something in Chapter 1 about how he looks like someone else (or words to that effect), but this is never mentioned again. Dunno, just a thought.

im so confused by this title

actually wasn't pandoria supposed to have control over genbu? if that's the case it would seem unlikely that zeke was the first to bond with her crystal

please keep making more longer videos i like your voice and it really is great hearing you talk about my favorite game in the background while i play xenoblade xD

Mythra thermal throttled down down to pyra

fun fact: when I played XC2 the first time, I thought Jin was Malos's personal version of Pyra but Malos was just stronger so they could be out at the same time.

I think as something subconscious this could track but I’d also say there’s certainly a bit of Lora in there too, or viewing Jin/Lora together as a cohesive unit.

6:41 Lora is 27 as of the game. She is explicitly stated to have resonated with Jin at age 10, 17 years prior.

I legit thought, before the game came out, from the trailer alone (where you see Pyra and Mythra - but the trailer doesn't show that they are "two in one", also Pneuma wasn't a known thing to me back then, either), that every element (there are 8: fire, water, ice, wind, earth, electric, light, dark) would have a girl (Pyra is fire, Mythra is light), like you'd have a whole sailor moon squad in the game >:D Silly, isn't it? But makes me wonder what kind of personalities and appearances would all these (besides Pyra and Mythra) have and speaking of the relationships, there aren't that many archetypes, anyway... Parent-Child, that's one (father and daughter, father and son, mother and daughter, mother and son)... Siblings (brother & brother, brother & sister, sister & sister), that's two... and "Lovers" (a couple, a pair, whatever you want to call that)... There could also be a "master-servant" one, I guess... and some others, too... The parental figure could be uncle/aunt, but also grandparent(s), or totally unrelated (not blood related, not even adopted)... Like, there's only as much you can do with storytelling and characters, because it always boils down to the archetypes, that keep repeating throughout different stories (why the perfect works, xenoGEARS, xenoSAGA, and xenoBLADE have similar themes... and they are written by the same guy, so... yeah)

There's nothing wrong with your video lengths. Your explanations are great.

HOLY MOLY FOR THE ZANZA SAKE THIS VIDS TITLE IS ENOUGH TO SLAY MALOS AND GIVE HIM A BRAIN DAMAGE

Man, I love the Torna Trading Card Game. It's my second favourite after the Miralife TGC. I can't believe I missed the video about Luxin talking about it for two whole years. So underrated.

About to experience Xenoblade Chrobicles for the first time. Picked up a copy on the New 3ds.

love this game so much, the transition from ... spoilers alert: ... The transition from Torna ending to show Rex's Golden Eyes from base game in the end tho. Reminds me of the first ever driver, Addam having golden eyes too.

Wow these games have so much thought put into them

This title made Poppi cry.

Here two years later, here on the exact day

I always saw Addam as more of an older brother figure to Mythra. Also post-torna Jins crystal is red and so is Pyra. Coincidence? I think not.

Y’know, before PTSD happened XD

I already like this

My take is that Pyra is indeed Mythra's "idealized version of herself" (12:42), but rather than based off of people she looked up to (Jin), Pyra is the embodiment of all her flaws perfected. Pyra was an avatar created by Mythra to manifest what she (inappropraitely) considered to be a better person. While she was rash and impulsive, Pyra would be calm; while she was called a simpleton, Pyra would be looked upon as wise; while she can’t cook to save her life, cooking would be Pyra’s speciality. Most importantly however, as an aegis, she was able to (and did) cause a lot of destruction, but Pyra would be incapable of burning the world a second time. It is because of this that Rex had such a big impact on her. Whiist Addam treated her with respect, as a father would his daughter, it was revealed that Addam was fearful of Mythra’s power. Rex, on the other hand, would embrace Mythra and accept her for who she is-flaws and all. When Mythra and Pyra told Rex to abandon them, Rex told them that he would fullfil his promise to them to go to Elysium together. Realizing that he had left them to walk alone while he stood in the shadow of the Aegis, Rex said, “I’m doing this, for you.” Pyra and Mythra’s reaction to this was all you need to know that their hearts were touched. “I love this world, because you’re in it.” was their response to him, as they were finally able to overcome their fears and come to terms with their vulnerabilities. The result, as we all know, was the birth of the 3rd Monado, a power that even Addam was unable to wield. Just like Pyra, Mythra was dealing with a lot of insecurities. The guilt she holds for destroying so much of the world, and killing so many was immense, and clouded her judgment to the point where the only thing she could do was to shut herself from the world, leaving behind someone she thought would be better for the world. However, even in her uncontrolled rage at the end of the Aegis war, Mythra was shown to shed a tear as she had a vision of her future with Rex, to which all she could say was, “I just want to save,” revealing that gentleness was within her all along; but it would take someone like Rex to get through to her that even someone like her could be loved. Therefore, I must disagree that Pyra is Jin. That is all.

You should talk about artifices like how Ophion got controlled after Torna DLC. And why not Gargoyles amd other World Tree Mechs

I've been thinking about this video lately. Funnily Lora even has red haircoulor lol

History channel at 3 am:

Yea I can apsolutly by in to the idea that Mythra baised Pyra's personality on Jin, Lora and potentially other members of the party, but Jin and Lora seams to have has a huge influence on Pyra's personality.

Me: Oh Enel posted a new video, let's see what it is. Also Me: Sees title, dies.

me watching the Torigoth blade awakening scene after playing Torna: LeO????!?!!!!

I finished xenoblade 2 yesterday and started torna today

Mythra awakened a Mary Sue

Lmao I cant watch any of your videos since I'm only like 8 hours into TTGC I should probably finish that

Gonna say something like Mythra trying to emulate him and his caring side?

Cool vid

Is it just me or does pyra looks alot like lora, nobody seems to be mentioning that

I would like a blade system explained

This makes more sense than my previous interpretation: Mythra created a new personality that can cook so she could be a better housewife for some reason??

About Pandoria being awakened for the first time by Zeke - hasn't Pandoria been used to control Genbu for a while before Zeke came along?

Seeing Mythra and Lora on the same frame made me tought that Mythra created Pyra based on Lora instead of Jin! I mean, both girls are red head with yellow eyes, both use fire for their elements, both are very kind and caring ! To me it's way more obvious than Jin. And of course, pyra represent everything Mythra isn't and all fear she embodies after the events of Torna. Pyra always try to find the most peaceful option and is always ready to savrifying herself.

Did... Did we take a spider away from it's family and kidnapped there care taker...?

So basicly Mythra wanna become a perfect waifu but instead change herself to become like one she create her perfect waifu inside herself

7:40 mythra says hell naw to this vid

little late on this, but as Mythra) is the master blade, which contains the data on all other blades, it's not unreasonable to assume Pyra was a new blade from the same crystal. This is further cemented that the AI for Mythra wasn't a single AI, but multiple in a single crystal. So technically if Mythra chose to she could've made multiple new blades, up to but not limited to, one for each element, each with varying levels of power and personality. That might also be why (SPOILERS) they're different people at the end, because the crystal was capable of creating a clone of itself, much in the way it replaced what was physically missing from Malos'

Blade system video? Can we get this initially as an april fools or something?

Addams and mythra's relationship seems like anaikins and asokas from clone wars. sorry for bad spelling

TBH Pyra seems based on both Jin and Lora.

Hang on, are you saying that Mythra is technically Pyra's Driver?!

If this is the case, then it makes[ Spoilers] The end where Pneuma makes Pyra and Mythra as seperate blades after awakening to full power make more sense. If she made Pyra while under the power high from the increased aegis energy she was throwing around against Malos, a final form that can freely manipulate ether should be able to make 2 blades based on data she already has on her.

Ok, this has been bugging me for some time now. I don't...think you understand the meaning the verb to complement XD. I'm not trying to be mean, everything else is great, as always, but come on, complementary means A has everything B does not and vice versa. If Haze and Lora, for example, are the same in pretty much every aspect, then they are the exact opposite of complementary

Could the torna blades be...well first awoken by the torna crew?

i have a question. could it be that rex was born in the family of addam like over these 500 years or is that highly unlikely?

Idk man... Addam and Mythra.. didn't seem like they were into eachother romantically. It seemed familial or friendly. But when she met Rex, it seemed the bond evolved into love from how things seem with the Chapter titles and the scenes. Rex does hold similarities to Addam, but there are differences between them which is why Rex could handle and perfectly control the full power of the Aegis, whereas Addam could not.

this that thatsanimegirl shit rn

Sadly, Pyra don't take him fighting skills.

Mothra created Pyrha with all the qualities she wishes she could have, Pyrha is not really based on Jin. Mythra wishes she could cook, so Pyrha can cook. Mythra wishes she weaker, more approachable, more outgoing etc, so Pyrha has those qualities, these are not qualities Jin has. Jin has a lot of broad admirable qualities, but there are many personality, element, and views he has that Pyrha obviously does not take after. It's foolish to think that Pyrha was based on Jin.

Wait wut?

So.....can malos create another blade??

Lora is 27 not 30

360p gang

nah mythra got jealous of jin cooking so put it into pyra

>TFW I like Pyra >TFW I don't like Jin in the base game >TFW I prefer him in Torna >MFW this video Guess I have a type.

just put metaphorically in the title

Does your back hurt?

But remember, it's just a theory. A Game Theory, thanks for watching!

I've been watching you for a long time and I've been meaning to comment this....... You stole my fucking username

Was Pyra based??

There's nothing showing Adam is married; no in game dialogue mentions about Adam being married.