I agree. Them 155’s are pretty hefty lol

Stiffy

Reminds me of a Ferdinand

gun loader is nice but storage access is danger and need a lots of muscle

We can talk how bad the autoloader and the magazine was designed...

In Germany we don't call it 'a piece of art', we call it "Taktzeitoptimierung" and I think that is beautiful.

Not a piece of art... german engineering :D but, well i think it is simular ;p

What is your opinion of the possibility of sending this to Ukraine?

@@user-lh1uu7cs9u Well you can transport it quite easy by train or truck, but you can not make it fit into a plane. It uses NATO standard ammo so it should be no problem to supply enough ordonance. BUT: it need a Command and Control Center to get its Fire Commands or you need to know how to enter da Fire Command localy. The Software is German and most Names and Commands are German. So i see no problem in mooving and supporting, but a problem in using this thing

@@markusfischhaber8178 Well I'm startled that the software is not using standard localization to the well known languages (NATO languages) or that it can't be switched somewhere in setup. Such things (gettext strings config files) are well known even for C/C++ which I would expect the software is written in. Netheerland soldiers are using German UI ? 😀 Relying on Command center is IMO illusive in real war conflicts where the connection may fail from various reasons (heavy bombardment of infrastructure or intensive jamming). The crew should be able to work independently... As I know, In Ukraine the army units are decentralized to a certain level which is an advantage to the Russian army which works on direct orders (therefore you can paralyze it by killing the top commanders etc.).

@@vencdee hahahaha IT problems

@@vencdee well, this is where you'll need training. The Indonesian submariner even partly use german order in their U-209, because the German trained them. well used to anyway.

I think it might be a sorta autoloader

Agreed

Imagine a round land every three seconds in kill zone

They can make them all hit the target at the same time. Pretty impressive

TheNuclearWarhead • 54 years ago ok

3 second reload on a 155mm cannon lol

Muricans then.

Or from people who want to deploy that system and find, that we do not have planes big enough..

@Advocatus Diaboli Nether in their A400 M nor in their C-160.. So Katar is the country how owns PzH2000 and C17 to move them around in their own planes.

I clicked dislike and I don't have, or want, or need, an auto loader. Read my other comment on this video to find out what I think of this shit. Or not, I don't care. I care about me, I care about you, I care about what we as a species universally want ... we want to be happy, feel loved and heard. We like to feel free. We do not want to be killed from a distance by whomever pays most.

@the taker Oh well, I don't know about destiny ... I won't play along, that I know.

German science is best in ze world!

I agreed

absolutely mind-boggling....so many different branches of engineering and science all combined into a powerful machine and a weapon

@@Tounushi it was

It looks a bit more like the Conqueror gun carriage if you know what it is :)

* Breaks down even more *

It looks a hybrid of a Hummel and an Waffentragger E-100

MAUS

And nashorn is the Mom

These 105 or what ?

It was developed about 35 years later, so it's not much of a surprise.

Absolutley its just more up to date. Greets from bavaria.

It also comes with GPS, all kinds of automated calculations and communications. You need the target position and the computer determines the direction, elevation, type of shell, amount of powder... when the first shell hits the ground the system detects how much it is off and autocorrects within seconds for the next shot. Bulls eye.

Compared to this, Paladín reloads like Joe Biden himself is loading the gun 😂

I know air superiority is their ultimate doctrine, but I am a bit surprised the DOD took until very recently to come up with an actual replacement for the M107 (which is funny enough a heavily modified M107 with a new gun yet for some reason still no autoloader)

This vid shows the Dutch army using them

@@nielsrooiman772 literally noone asked

Alejandro r/ woooooosh

@@nielsrooiman772 whats the joke ??

Alejandro the Dutch army doesn’t own any tanks or howitzers

😂😂😂😂😂

At this point I keep seeing this type of jokes on the internet and i don't find it funny anymore.... Big sad for me :((

Autoloader in t72 isnt that low in the vehicle, no? Also Artillery is much less likely to be shot at soo

Do you mean Soviet-made tanks that are both used by the Ukraine and Russia right now?

@@i_cri_evertim Does it say “Made in Germany” on it?

Thanks, mate! Stay tuned, more cool videos coming soon👍

What was automated about it compared to this?

_Nashorn_ is a Tank Destroyer. So rather than him, how about _Wespe,_ _Grille,_ or _Hummel?_ No offense, sorry. Besides, i got your joke ;)

@@vwerlg9954 r/ihavereddit

HoriHero HH then don’t whoooosh you normie

@@vwerlg9954 r/wooshwithtwoos r/iamfunny

I'm deleting my comment cuz it getting cringe

Because *INSERT I9 core* .bruh Because from real camera. Lol.

Wir sollten alle unseren schicken, wir brauchen sie aktuell nicht und die Industrie kann sie rasch nachbauen...150 von denen werden den Krieg extrem beeinflussen..

А мы вашу вундервафлю малкой и раскатаем . Такие наивные вы что диву даёшся 😏 Да и как трафей в том числе для изучения . Можете присылать .

They'll probably use them in the western part of Ukraine because the donbass region is almost lost . No point of sending them there to get destroyed quickly.

@@artandarchitecture6399 look at non bias source on whats happening on the ground in Ukraine . Thats all gota say .

@@artandarchitecture6399 У нас есть поговорка поживём увидим .))) Мы уже привыкли к разным бедам и испытаниям. И эту неприятность мы переживём )))

The exercise was held in the east of Germany and Poland so, yes.

lol

Say AAH for the meat.....

I was looking for something like this but this is even better

Sup bro

@@zucktheskeleton9731 Noice and ya?

I have always been curious as to where is the ammunition stored? And can the turret turn like in tanks?

Greetings from 4th battery. Was MARS gunner 2016 feldberg

Did you shoot animals or something lol

In witch game?

Is it general zero hour Holland?

Totaly agree, but i'm every time sad, that we used this creativity and inteligence power to kill people :(

@@kniLchMilch They're evil people, so do you agree that we SHOULD NOT PUNISH the rapist, murderers, serial killers, corrupt politicians and drug lords?

@@hammerscharlie1935 good questions. Imho its smarter to prevent not to punish. The world are not realy a bretter place when you kill people for revenge. Bad people doing bad things no matter a death penalty exists. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@@kniLchMilch I agree with you, but if they already committed horrible crimes like I mentioned above then they should be punished to death.

Nope, the MSTA-S has a semi-automatic loader. You still have to place each individual shell and case to the loader and activate the rammer each time to load, a fully automatic loader would take the shells and cases from the storage automatically. The Koalitsiya-SV does that, however, and ,as you said, it also has the whole loading mechanism and ammo storage separate from the crew.

Но какой то он маленький слишком

@@user-ss7rh2lz1i а то, что он должен зажигаться от электрозапала обязательно, и то , что его рукой запихивают, тебя не смутило?

@@namefamily2748 нет)

Все таки это заряд значит. И да то что гильз нет удивило. А заряды отличаются интересно у них. Или для каждого заряда разные мешки(но это сложно для снабжения)...

Ну какие гильзы на 155 мм.

I'm sure it depends on the breach of the gun, or something, like how Flak 88 was used, it kept going, then afterwards cleaned, like every other gun, but flak is all I know with a short reload, and same with artillery, some needed to be cleaned, and others don't like the pzh2k

To my knowledge there is compressed Air beiing Put through the Barrel ventilating it.

@Gary Edwards This is something that has to be done on the M109 A6/7 Paladin, but not on the PzH 2000. The PzH 2000 is far superior to the M109A7. It is joke that the US Army is still using such a primitive artillery system. Compare this video of M109 A7: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g96ddNOAnNHLoZ8.html To this video of the PzH 2000: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rdJ7n7pikp3HZXU.html

@@markschoning5581 why need a better one when you don't need a better one? The usa so called 1000 mile cannon is coming out sooo yea if it's a success the 2000 and the palindin would be irrelevant

put a razorblade between the shell and the fuze: they will hear the shell incoming🤪

Some people will always buy the cheaper option, even if they fight for their lives in a war, damn idiots! 😂

weak propellant charge.

Clearly the microphone is muffled to a degree. You can hear artillery at least in 20km distance. All of the guys wear ear protection.

When they were loading it earlier it was filling up a "magazine", and you can see later in the video it feeds from that mag via the robotic arms

Lmao!!!

But they are different breed

This is artillery though

# savethemaus

You mean Ferdinand

how do you know it’s a he or a she?? did you check?

So smooth sound, something you find automation in industry.

Это наверное учебный заряд?

@@user-ls4qn1lp4v боевой, система заряжания такая

@@emillio_gonzales угу, минимальный. Как только понадобится заряжать картузы побольше - скорострельность упадёт

of course

SEKAI ICHI

Могу поспорить…

well there's soldiers trained to their best

I used to serve on an M109, also a 155 mm gun, back when NL still called up conscripts. I don't know if the situation with the PZH2000 is comparable, but this is what I remember. 1) Usually the 'weaker' men were called up to be arty, i.e. fat guys, thin guys, short guys and so on. 2) After a few weeks, a lot of the guys in the crews in my battery had doctors' notes saying they weren't allowed to lift anything heave (i.e. shells). We made do with whomever did not have or did not fake a bad back. 3) Although the shells were heavy (45kg approximately), they were compact and relatively grippy, which made them easy to handle. Also, 4) rumour had it that the Germans used strong men as loaders. The reason was that they hydraulic loading system was fairly slow, whereas with manual loading you could get firing rates of, I think, 6 shots a minute.

The Dutch are strong😜

autoload is fine manual load can separate the warhead from the propellant

These Dutch guys always clean up their plates and go to bed early. That's why they can effortlessly move these heavy shells.

If u get hit as an SPG then you have already lost the battle.

yes they can, the operators of the vehicle are fully trained how to handle situations when the autoloading system fails.

It is also possible to aim manually. That is why the system needs more training than older systems.

가성비로만따지면 k9이 월등히좋음

@@user-bori2350 Yeah but Germany is a rich country with high-tech weaponry so we can afford that.

The loader manipulates every thing with the right hand. This way his hand ist not in the danger zone when he closes the breach and pushes the hot button.

That's The propellant/charge, that's why it's called a Howitzer. A cannon fires a fully assembled shell, like a bullet.

That's the propellant, the gunpowder equivalent to howitzers. It determines how far the 155mm round goes. The more propellant the farther the range, the fewer the propellant the lesser the range of the projectile.

That’s not what defines the difference between cannon and howitzer at all. Cannon is lower angle of descent (>45 deg) and howitzer is high angle of descent (>45 deg). For instance, a M101A1 fires a fully assembled round like a rifle cartridge but it is still defined as a howitzer.

It is a Dutch version :O

Its a german artillery in Dutch hands. Feel like whole Europe use German tanks and artillery.

For "short" ranges you only need to adjust the launch angle.

Уже идёт

@@VL-ie2qr Калибр уже летит

Over rated. With the old French AU-F1 you don't need to load the propellant charge manually...

@@JoJo-vm8vk LMAO now France even uses German rifles, feels bad

Мой дядя сейчас живёт в Германии и служит в армии на этом чуде а в 1999 служил в российской армии и воевал в Чечне на российской мста-с и говорит российская лучше

I come form Poland and I admire Deuchland's howitzer pzh2000. We have Krab ahs and this is not good as phz2000.

So was Volkswagen.

I think they are used to mark the working area around the howitzer but dont quote me on that

isn't it the infra red friend identification panel?

those poles are for camonets, you can put a "chute" on top of it and hang camonets around the vehicle

Не то что на расии скажи... Одни Анало-говнеты)

They can shoot ca 40 km

Probably. And the recoil is also surprisingly short.

Depending on ammunition type and weather conditions this thing can shoot between 25-60 km

Generally if they are in Europe, they have to shoot short.

You can aim with having only 1 type of bag. just adjust elevation. For practicing these loads are cheaper and good enough.

I think it's 5 but ok

@@bluestaraquamarine9214 Nah he means the artillery ability that tanks get

@@alephkasai9384 oh nvm, I thought he was saying something else

@@bluestaraquamarine9214 I see

pretty much that, even some tanks have those, either on the back (turret turned backwards, gun locked , for transportation) or instead under the turret roof to lock the gun.

Unlike a tank this is highly precise instrument, a millimeter off here makes lots of meters on the target. Think danger close setting, you do not want to be off.

propellant

Flak is for aircraft. It´s almost impossible to shoot down a plane with a howitzer.

​@@adamabele785, Thank you for that corrected technical info. I just Recklessly assumed 88 had been utilized for Target types other than Ariel flack. So Howitzers Could be re-engineered to do same or similar. It's obvious I need to expand my comprehension of Howitzer other than cocktail shot containing Sambuca & Rum.

Because it's an autoloader

코리안

탄수급을 생각햐보면 k9이 더편함 k10쓸수있으니까

@@user-rq8sh7ro8p PZH-2000 에는 K10 같은 loader 가 없는가 봅니다?

@@sung94132 네 pzh는 k10같은 탄약운반차가 없음

@@user-rq8sh7ro8p 정보 감사 합니다. 결론은 한국의 방산이 우위로군요

Потому что представлено классическое артиллерийское орудие с раздельно-картузным заряжанием. Вместо гильзы с порохом используется зарядный картуз, это по сути мешочек с порохом. Такой способ позволяет удешевить производство боеприпасов (гильза для 155мм стоит дорого), а также упростить механизм заряжения, исключив эжектор стрелянной гильзы. Ну и ещё много хороших плюшек. Единственный минус, картуз надо закидывать ручками заряжающего, то есть полный автомат заряжания не реализовать.

Tu Ksen Заряжающий может вообще без руки остаться,если немножко зазевается.

@@user-dp4mv4tx1s не не может , ведь он сам и закрывает затвор причем той же рукой что и заряжает. Орудие не идиоты же делали.

@@tuksen8078 американцы пробовали сделать crusader - заряд набирается из готовых таблеток автоматически. Но я таки понял почему-то в серию не пошло.

Николай Носак они и сейчас с этой темы иногда пыль сбивают... А вообще много производителей в инициативном порядке запили не мало годных автоматов...

Эти машины убивают бедных орков прямо сейчас. Будем надеяться, что Путин осознает свою ошибку, и меньше ваших собратьев должны погибнуть из-за Panzerhaubitze. Я не хочу тебя оскорблять. Я просто констатирую факты.

Мир всем народам этой земли.

It does, luckily. otherwise Norway would have been a lot worse during our winter exercise

I wonder too...

The Treibladung/Treibladungsbeutel? propellant/Propellant charge bag or what you mean?

@@Janoip what does it do?

The great art of loosing 2 world wars 😂😂😂