Thanks for taking time to experiment and share your experience with us. Very generous of you.

Love the way you show your wood!

I love watching your videos. Thanks

Your work is appreciated.

Great Job thinking of a Jig for Quarter Sawing, Best Idea I've seen.

You're getting there. Good to see you seeking advice while experimenting for yourself. Keep at it.

Thanks ,I was trying to figured out which is the proper way, so that woods are not wasted.

Beautiful wood!

This was a great illustration as to why quarter sawn lumber is so expensive. Great vid and keep them coming!

You need to align both ends, on the center of log. Some sort of jack? You will only get two boards of perfect quarter sawn out of each half of the tree so you need to figure out your cuts from the center line outwards. Hopefully you have taken your first two wide boards from the center of the log as quartered. Your next 4 boards will have come from the edges of the center cut on each log quarter. Prefect quarter! Now is when the more difficult cuts are to be made. You need to figure your cuts so that you get two boards out of each quarter that are separated by the blade thickness on the CL of the quarters. That gives you 8 more perfect quarter Bds. All the rest of the cuts will be rift. To get true quartered the saw blade must pass through the center of the tree, on both ends! By the way, white oak usually results in a better display of the quartered look. Sycamore displays nicely also.

This is 4 years or so old, but I just got my mill and still assembling it. I "Feel" that quarter sawn has its application like anything else. The key to that statement is... Is the desire of the product worth the added effort, in some cases, certainly so. We ran an old Frick circular growing up and don't think this method was ever brought up. Grandpa had a mill in the early 1900's not sure he applied this method(I wasn't there, and dad is not here to ask) I also applaud your efforts to this rabbit hole of the craft. thank you.

Nice job and one never knows unless you try!! I give you thumbs up for showing us all the steps you went through to do this and your honesty about the outcome!! Hope the channel grows!

Looks like some nice boards. You are lucky to have hardwood around there. Good stuff

Subscribed. I like your energy and attitude.

I’m not sure I understand all of the harsh criticism given here. QS lumber traditionally has a good bit of waste, as he also had here. I didn’t see an extreme amount of waste though. He didnt continue to turn the logs like traditional methods, but thats the point of this video, to test the jig he made to try and reduce these steps. From what I saw the lumber milled was QS. There wasn’t a lot of yield, but he admitted this in the fact that he didn’t have a large enough log to get a lot of yield. From what I can see, I don’t understand the rationale behind all of the criticism here, someone please explain this to me. I think he did a nice job with the experiment. He admitted that the LT 10 may not be the right mil for this, but there could be some improvements. I realize this is an older video and he has a new saw but raising and leveling this platform to something around 18-24 inches as well as using a bigger log should help significantly. One suggestion might be to change the title of the video to something like a Quarter-saw experiment or something like that, I think too many guys are hung up on the “teaching the proper method” theme. I would not call this a failure, simply an experiment that needs some refinement. I like it, I think he did a nice job thinking outside the box here trying to be innovative. More than I can say for most folks on here. Thanks again for showing this and the courage to withstand the barrage of negativity seen here.

Enjoyed watching. Thanks.

good job on showing us how quarter sawn lumber is produced.

Thanks for the video!

Great vid!

Consider that timber having 2 sides side A, and side B. Take a slab from side A then rotate and take a slab from side B. back and forth. less waste that way.

That was awesome cuttin all that quarter sawed wood

Thanks Dude, another beauty.

The learning curve, Right? Being creative is the secret of exploring out of the norm. It was definitely worth exploring. With the existing jigs you built one might consider sharper points for a more aggressive hold due to better penetration of the points. I agree with you, it is all attractive with the various grain and the time and waste incurred isn't, in my opinion, worth it. With my old LT40 I could clamp firewood size pieces of wood. I cut a lot of yew wood chunks this way and it was beautiful. Keep it up!

I like your idea.

My opinion is that you and your mill crossed over the line to an art form. That grain was popping. Art will always be more difficult and I enjoyed watching your effort. Thank you for sharing. Things will become clearer for reaching your goals. Big thumbs up!!!!!

I like this! So refreshing to find someone doing it the correct way and producing good, minimal shrink, stable timber/lumber. Yes there is more waste but you are producing better quality boards and the waste is mostly firewood/sawdust. Better for you and your customers.

You did great! got some beautiful stuff out of that log...sure, it's not 'real' quartersawn, but produced nice results. Some folks have said, 'that log's too small to mill' - but I think it's much too nice for stove wood. Thanks!

Thank you for actually quarter sawing correctly

i subbed because u are showing it as u learn and do it like most learn how to do it ,and thats a plus in my book ,.keep em comn ,newly subbed

You can get 3-4 quarter sawn boards out of any cant they will come out the center . you will then resale them in two to get the center out

Pretty clever rig. Thanks for figuring it out and then sharing that. Works good!

You should look into providing wood for acoustic, electric guitar bodies, also for guitar necks. You get some beautiful woods.

thanks awesome

The way the old timers did it. When quality work was a the goal, not speed or low cost. I worry that too little of that knowledge is being passed on to our younger generation as shown by many if the comments here. Many times a failure on our part not theirs. This is not "modern" quartersawing, rather the traditional way. Not just better appearance but less chance of cupping. Quality not quantity still matters to some and they are willing to pay. Hat's off to you Sir!

Lots of nice ray and fleck there.

Now this is confusing. How many methods are there for quarter sawing lumber? Frank Miller seems to have another method which i thought was the only way to do quarter sawing

Thats cool

Nice jig, I have an LT35HD. Surprised that Woodmizer doesn’t make a jig for that

I admire your effort and your honesty. Please hear my words. I strongly urge you to acquire and habitually use personal protective equipment. Eyes, hands, feet and lungs. You are a hard working young man who should live a long and healthy life.

With those angled dogs you made those cuts with where more like wedge cuts, like how the Vikings would split up a log and than plain them down into boards using broad axes.

A man of many talents!! I appreciate you sharing this! There is about a million board feet of lumber laying on the ground in South Georgia if you are ready to tackle that!!

Set your quarter pieces flat side down on your mill then take one or two cuts off the bottom, then rotate the other flat side and take two cut off the bottom and keep rotating til there is no good wood left. Cut some poor grade logs into heavy blocking to set your mill on to. Or weld some angle iron or beams. You need to raise it about 2 or 3 feet.

I want one of those saws

Great work, brother. Love seeing those logs turned into something beautiful.

I slab cut the log through the flat and most of the rift, and then separate the slab that bisects the pith and a few slabs on either side. Those slabs through the center portion are quarter sawn. Over several logs you'll stack up a good pile of quarter sawn without fighting to get them. If I am cutting for 2"x6" and 2"x4" boards, I'll cut (out of a 20" log) all slabs in one plane. The four boards in the center will give me eight quarter sawn boards...sometimes the fifth is so close to quarter (right at the border of rift sawn...30°-60°) that I'll stack them to the side for a stash. Then I put all other slabs, back on the mill (minus the quartered) and saw the boards I need. It's a little more work, but I have a small mill and very little waste. I might get one 2"x6" and two 2"×4" boards per slab and a few sticker cuts.

I love watching your videos! Very impressive and good content

Good idea. Wood looks awesome. That was a great effort.

I like how you are unafraid to try things in public. cheers to ya, bud

Quartering these sized logs by wedges or may be easier than using a a chain saw. I took a quick shallow cut with a Skil saw to start.

As i said you will have a few bugs starting out. Using a not so good logs for practice also good idea to perfect technique. Quarter sawing always produces more waste and is more work. I do agree your LT10 mill is a bit small to handle the size logs you need to get good size quarter sawn lumber. But on the other hand for lumber for personal use for say flooring, furniture and cabinetry. Your little LT 10 will save you thousands of dollars in what it would cost to buy quality quarter sawn wood. With a bit more practice trust me you will be absolutely amazed at what you can turn out on that little mill. Never give up on it but i wouldnt take on a project for others unless they were willing to pay a premium price for the sawing. Good job on the jigs they will be a big asset in the future.

There's a fascination with quartersawing and as a miller/woodworker I see that. Trouble is, I have a really hard time consistently getting more money for a quartersawn versus a flatsawn board. I know that sounds kind of crazy but it's what I've experienced in 30 years of selling lumber in small lots. When I cut a log and just saw it in the most efficient manner (flatsawn) I'll get about 10%-20% of the lumber that will be quartersawn anyway. It's just how it comes out during the milling. So I sort out the quartersawn boards, stack them separately and mark them up about 20% more than the same flatsawn lumber from the same set of logs. And often I won't get a quartersawn buyer and I end up selling the quartersawn with no premium. My experience, anyway. Good luck to the other bandsaw millers out there, and try to retire with all your fingers still attached.

Very nice results for a small log. And yes, quarter sawing a small log is almost as much work as a large log with far less to show for your efforts when it's all said and done. I sure understand you wanting to go back to plane sawing. Good luck and I really do enjoy your channel.

It is easier to 1/4 saw lumber on a Vertical mill. After you get the 1/4 Cants, you put one face down, cut the 90 deg. side, rotate the face, and cut the next one, and continue getting narrower boards. More work, yes. There are a few good videos of people doing 1/4 sawn on a Horizontal mill.

if you cut only one board near the middle, it will be really radial or rift sawn board, then you will have 2 narrower wedges, less than 1/8 of circle, that you can cut another radial ones from,

Fall Line Ridge the wood slabs have beautiful grain looks like pellets grain in the wood wow pretty.Thanks bless you.

There are other ways to do quarter sawn. The larger the log the more difficulty we have in balancing a 1/4 on its edge. It's worth trying your method.

I think you need a brace close to your handle , it would take out a lot of the wobble, and help support the whole thing

You built a contraption to straight cut quartered logs?? The proper way, eh?! Sure. To each their own. Hope all goes well for you and your endeavors

Good work, Quartersawn lumber demands a higher price! It's a lot of work, but it's worth it

Good Job but.. There are a few ways to get QS from logs bit this one is really no different than through sawing a log from the top down. you get more QS material IF you saw the log into quarters right through the center... and yes... you need the biggest logs you can find. Then lay the 1/4 flat on the bed and come up to take off a board about 1-1/16" thick. Flip the 1/4 onto the other 1/4 face and do the same ... repeat over and over or, just leave a the wedge for larger leg stock like 3" or 4" for woodturning. Wish I could post a pic. Keep up the good work.

For a minute I thought you had a good reason to go through all that. Lol. We know it's possible now.

howdy, i was just wondering if you were planning to put a roof over your mill. that way if it were raining you could make lumber anyway?

I,m kinda of a dummy with cutting wood,but what's the gain in quarter sawn lumber?

i would use a hinge on you brackets and have the bolt change the angle of the bracket it should provide a larger more stable area for the log to ride on. Like the video's makes me wish i was younger i would most likely try saw milling.

would it be a bad idea to stick a shim in the board, behind the blade? to take pressure off the blade. For example, at 2:49, is it worth doing?

I know this is a silly question to ask but I'm really curious, how DO you cut a quarter sawn log and why is it desirable to cut them that way? Thank you. I love watching these videos!

cut the log into 3rds, then cut the center down the middle. now you have 4 pieces, put each piece on the mill so you are cutting 90° to the grain.

You can still get quarter sawn with a touch less work. Set up your can't for plain sawn boards, but before you start in, die tify the quarter sawn region near the pith - above and below - and work back from there to where your first cut will be. The first cut may be an odd thickness. Once you have the plain sawn planks out, the 2 - 4 boards in the middle of the can't then go to the table saw and are ripped to remove the pith and / or center section where the board is not quaternary sawn. With some practice at identifying the cuts you can probably get some usable boards out of the pieces you will cut out of the center. This means that once you have the cant you don't have to move it. You get fewer quarter sawn out of your logs, but you still get some and you save a lot of work

Very rewarding to see you make this step. You are moving up in the sawyer world👍. As other comments mention, it produces more waste, but if the log is good, the 1/4 sawn boards are stronger and more beautiful. If you lived closer I would invite you over to use our commercial shop size planer on some of those beauties.

I am a recent subscriber and I enjoy watching your videos even though I am not likely to even do it myself. If you can please do a side by side comparison of the quarter saw board compared to a normal plane board. Thanks.

I have a question. You move the camera meany times to make the video. How long does it take you make all the shots we see in the final video?

Narrow boards hmmm... maybe use them to make bee hive supers?

Yeah....what you are doing here is sorta like rift sawing...but the silly thing is that you can easily could have done quarter sawing with your mill. All you had to do was set the quarter on the bunks like usual and cut from the bottom....turn the log...and cut from the bottom again. THAT would be truly quarter sawn

yeah! that's a nice little mill . it is what is . and pushing any thing beyond its limits ends up with bad results . and when you plain saw you get a couple boards in the middle that will make quarter sawn boards if im not mistaken I think that's a black oak log looks a lot like red oak but always has a bunch of little knots in them. anyway happy sawing check out Mathew Cremona now that's a saw mill! :0)

These things aren't sawmills, they are hobby mills, first of all you can't make much production, but as far as quarter sawing he did it right

I wonder if you realize now that you wasted a ton of wood doing it this way? Those diagonal edges cost you about an inch of good wood per board.

It strikes me that there could be another technique that would be easier for your mill to manage, and with some planning ahead, allow you to get the same result without quite so much waste. Now I've got so many bits of ideas scampering about in my head that they won't fall into any particular order. Ugh! Me, thinking on sawing logs with a largely machinist's point of view ... maybe I should just quietly step away ... :-) ... it's probably been tried before anyhow.

Well, that was a good learning experiment but that's for special projects only. There's to much waste and time being lost for a workingman, ranch hand, and medical provider. I really enjoy your videos.

that way of quarter sawing is called bastard , true quarter is sawn turning the log. white oak and sycamore have better fleck's and ray's.

YEAH I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT THERE'S A LOT OF LOSS OF TIME AND ENERGY AND I WAS WATCHING AS YOU WERE SAWING AND I THOUGHT IF YOU COULD ONLY TIP THE SAW ITSELF IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE TRACK OR TIP THE WHOLE TRACK AND RELATIONSHIP TO THE SAW BLADE DAVID GRENIS LIVING IN BOULDER COLORADO USA

I started watching how to get a straight line painting. Ended up in a youtube worm hole here. Seeing these big trees on the ground and considering every house is made of wood makes me wonder if those who cut them down are planting enough and will we run out of wood? I mean those trees are about a hundred years old. I hope you planted more.

The wood is unstable this way quarter sawn the grain lays horizontal

You might try making your 45 degree supports as 90 degree Vs so you would drop the quarters into them. Would be supported on both sides for clamping. Gripper teeth on the back side. I suppose ideally the Vs would have pivots so you could align the center of the log to the bed of the mill. Hell, as long as we are getting carried away, provide a method of jacking on one of them to center end to end. Have fun. I always thought I'd like to have a mill, didn't happen. I did build a nice commercial woodworking business.

This looks like the opposite of every quartersawn diagram I’ve ever seen. It looks like you quartered the log then treated it like plainsawed wood. Once the quarters are achieved, the log should be rotated with each pass between the two quartered sides, not sure what’s going on here. I understand that technically these are sawn into quarters, and that sometimes those quarters are too big to rotate, so cut it as you want but I think when you say “proper quartersaw” people expect that rotation and instead just saw quarters being sawn without the rotation.

on a band saw mill, true quarter sawn wood is cutting the log into quarters and then position each quarter with bark side either left or right and then cutting the log into planks without moving the log. more desirable planks are rift cut - with rift, you cut the log like a pizza but with really thin slices. also, the log cannot remain stationary. on a band saw mill, it would be difficult to rift cut planks, but not impossible. rift cutting lobs produce unbelievable planks. take a look at this website...it is too difficult to explain rift cut with a few sentences. www.hardwooddistributors.org/blog/postings/what-is-the-difference-between-quarter-sawn-rift-sawn-and-plain-sawn-lumber/

great demonstration on the vid and the sawing. lots of constructive comments below.....ignore the ones that jus want to criticize. you are learning fast....jus want you to learn a litl better chainsaw techniques. in ur first vid u left about 2 feet of really good lumber. one on the stump and one where u pulled the heart. both are easily corrected. get some safety equipment including chainsaw chaps (wil save flesh n blood). experience makes the master.....jus want u to keep experiencing!!!!! if you are sawing for yourself you wil get more usable lumber by live sawing, and bout 25-30% wil be quartered for good variety. been there done that....i harvested, sawed, and air dried bout 8500bf of red or white oak to go into our house for paneling. i was always thrilled to see what nature revealed in a fresh cut!!! sidebar...tried many finishes and found minwax golden pecan topped with polycrylic gives the most natural fresh wet look. good day and happy sawing

Seems like you are wasting alot of that log tho, no?

Man, you should get that mill up off the ground, or you'll be a broken-down old-man before you should be.

Unless you get a ridiculous amount for your quarter sawn lumber that is sooo time consuming and the amount of material waste creating it simply is not worth that effort!

Wrong. This is some hybrid of quarter-, flat- and rift-sawn. I'll stick with the correct way.

Nice job ,but my back hurts watching you ! take some of that milled wood and lift your saw bed off the ground

You didn't even show the end grain pattern... The only part that matters with quarter sawn ..

Try this way: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/kJ17p5Z617qmnHU.html

That is riff sawn, not quarter sawn, nice try though.

you should really go to a real mill and ask kindly if they would show you, because this is not right sir.

The log was too small to begin with

Seens to me there is a lot of bollocks talked about quarter sawn timber, the principle seems rather straight forward but tedious. This video is the strangest way of sawing timber I have ever seen.

there is more than ONE way to get SOME quarter sawn boards from a log

Genau so habe ich meine Esche für mein Meisterstück aufgetrennt. Meiner Meinung nach die beste Möglichkeit für stehende Jahresringe. Sry for all written in german but to explain ist is much easyer. www.deutsche-handwerks-zeitung.de/ausstellung-der-schreiner/150/3048/97738 That is the result.

This video shows the way to get TRUE quarter sawn lumber, most other methods only get a few QS and then start producing "rift" sawn lumber, that folks like to call quarter sawn! SR.