i thought grace slick was sometimes considered an ice queen

Matbe during her specific era. Certainly no with "We Built This City" :p

simply "pop" as in "popular", popular in whatever scene or subculture said artists operated in, right?

exactly! Finally someone understands

She will always be my Ice Queen.

It's more like a day doesn't go by with me! 🖖

+Lord Whitenorth 😂

Bob Doubter I know all those other bands from the 80s I can't bear anymore but Siouxsie and the Banshees still sounds modern and has nothing nostalgic about it. It

I agree. Mostly they were a great singles band.

Agree,unlike a lot of punk

100% she was and IS STILL!💃❤️💋🌺

❤ brilliant should be in hall of fame

One of the most influential bands of all time, vastly underrated especially in the states.

Awesome story. Thanks for sharing. :)

I was at that same show. Spiritualized opened. Never thought to meet them after the show. Kicking myself.

Great story, wish I could have been there. :)

Greek are you?

A hug is so American. I want to visit America once, but I am afraid of the hug. It holds me back being pushed to an old lady with hanging tits and having to like that. I fear the hug.

Cherry picking examples of those that somehow "rose up" tends to ignore the thousands that got ground down. Rising up in the music industry is a very chancy endeavour.

She mentioned her red hair as maybe being part of what caused some of the bullying. Is there a stigma against red hair in Britain? I only ask because in America of the 70s young redheaded girls were somewhat revered as being a bit unique. They would never be ousted for it.

Almost anyone interesting was bullied. The bullies are the sad, pathetic ones who are forgotten and hopefully live with guilt and shame.

​@@dinkmartini3236I wouldn't call it bullying as such but any red head, male or female, was a "ginner" first and foremost in the 70s and 80s when I grew up...speaking as a bloke redheads were not classed as being any fitter (fit is our word for hot) or uglier but if you had a disagreement with a redhead of either sex any insult u may throw at them was prefixed with "ginner" normally followed with a c...reminding them of their hair colour was a daily constant they had to endure but it didn't stop them from being accepted in any way whatsoever, it was no different than being tall or fat or poor or still wearing flares or being soft...u know kids stuff, it was tough out there in the playgrounds during the 70s as we all know😊...i think Shirley Manson was slightly over egging the bullying aspect, then again she has made a career out of it, much as I love garbage

Wipe the floor with the HOF

@ramcurequeeny Amen, too that.

When siuxies and the Banshes started ir was post punk

No! I'd vote to keep them out of that garbage bin.

Sure, along with Tupac

Laureen Zed the top one in mine

So ir is in mine 🌶🌶

I undertook a pilgrimage to Chislehurst years ago basically to see the area the Bromley contingent inhabited and the Hong Kong Garden was still there then. It really caught me by surprise when I saw it and I had a "it can't be......it must be" moment. Happy times......

Not gothic.

Yet she's taken like one of the most representative goth figures, it's like Motorhead: not metal, they were rock & roll but they are taken by many as an important metal figure sooo...

Goth, punk, rock & then some.

seanmedic 1 it makes me mad when people mention Siouxsie / Banshees as Goth(apart from her image being copied) they have never had anything to do with Goth at all as Steve Severin always say's he hates being mentioned with Goth I was an original Siouxsie /Banshees fan in the 70's they were my 1st ever gig age 13 in 1978(they were a Punk band / then post punk in early80's then a pop band) & I was there for the start of Goth in London etc etc.

Too right.

so true

They blow each other out back.

Buck Weet different genres

Buck Weet Well said!

Thank you! This was exactly what I was looking for :)

Opti mum: Oh, come on--tired of people feeling they have to put down one artist to big up another. I like both Siouxsie and Beyonce, they're both talented and carved out their own way in the music industry--which can be very tough on women artists,anyway. And Beyonce has written and produced her own songs,too, for the past decade.

Have you seen how many people are involved in making a beyonce album, Kirk? It doest take a village, it takes a friggin' state! She may 'write' her songs but so do about six other people on the same track. Why is that necessary ?! Is it any coincidence that the only original member of Destiny's Child was related to her? She used that group as a ladder to her own solo career, no matter how many casulties got hurt along the way. Plus she is a master at stealing from other people. Just google it. Here's one for free: the single ladies dance routine was done decades ago by Bob Fosse www.billboard.com/articles/columns/the-juice/1560092/op-ed-when-beyonces-inspiration-turns-into-imitation

Agreed!!!

Chris Replogle I saw them at the first Lollapalooza too🙂 I wish I had seen them more than once!

There's just something about a perfect cross that is almost like music or poetry though ... :)

Jerry Jocoy Respect to you Jerry

Jerry Jocoy Yeah I couldn't agree more she never sold out .

Jerry Jocoy I'm a fan of all types of music from hip hop to punk ,metal ,metalcore electronic and Latin music .I just got into Siouxsie and the banshees recently.

Well said!

she still is.

Why do you miss murder ? You should be glad that you gave it up 😉

we both know that's not true, but still, i agree 100%

Not Amused : Check out her other project band The Creatures!

Sweet68Camaro you missed out the second S there! 'suey'

It was a word the french used to describe the Lakota nations.

SIOUXSIE? Nope

No ones mentioned the swastika at 4.30? What was the justification for that? Irony? Not that I'm bothered about it, I'm more worried about the double standards I'm seeing more and more of.

kristianTV1974 : The swastica was worn by some punks in Great Britain within their fashion designs mainly has a shock value statement against the post WW II british political establishment: it was simply a form of protest against youth's high unemployement rate in GB during the 70's, the warlike situation in Northern Ireland and the general crisis created by Margaret Tatchers' tory government which made the working class people suffer a great deal while the upper classes, the aristocracy and banking elites still maintained their ludicrous priveleges! Sid Vicious for instance also used to wear a red t-shirt with a black swastica but he was NOT a neo-nazi! You mustn't confuse the early english punk-rock movement from 76' until late 78' with its contemporary skinhead movement or the later nazi-punk "oi-oi" bands wich had an overt far right neo-nazi ideology! There's also a bit of confusion regarding the so-called 2nd wave of U.K. punk-rock bands which started in 79' going until 84' with the anarcho-punks hardcore bands such as Crass, G.B.H., Chaos, Discharge, Conflict, The Exploited, Adicts, etc... (which some were politicized anarchist militant bands and not neo-nazis)!

Poly/X-ray Spex was around at the same time as the Banshees (both initially forming in late 1976) but the others were 2-3 years later

A woman using her looks and body to achieve fame and not giving the men behind her any credit for her success. Yup, sounds like feminism.

@@wattage2007 I mean are Women not allowed to use their looks ? Isn’t that what we Men enjoy ? after all she is married to one of them.

@@wattage2007 men use women for their looks all the time to make money. But women take control and use it for their own needs it’s wrong ?

@@simongill184 “Men use women...” So the women don’t have any say in this? Are they used without their consent? These women don’t get well rewarded? Not sure what you’re getting at but it’s not got much to do with my point.

@@wattage2007 LOL, her body? Are you serious?

I would love to see her out and about !! How does that work ? Do you pretend you didn't see her ? Say hi or pretend you don't know her ? I think I would fall at her feet !! And I don't think she is underrated , for the artist that she is , a lot of people really appreciate her and her art . She was always gonna be hard to understand for the mainstream

@@redbeki when I say she was underrated, I do mean mainstream. I do agree with you, she was very much respected as a musician, her talent & her art. I found her very approachable & humble Beautiful lady ❤️

@@1501Anne yes, she is an incredible artist, I'm an artist too and I completely understand her.

@@1501Anne Hi, it doesn't matter about mainstream, when it comes to artistic integrity. Most artists live in a different way, outside of the mainstream.

I met her also it was crazy , being in a paper shop in Maida Vale with Steve and Sioux

Howard Downes ❤

+Archvaldor's Warcraft Hacks Me - I saw the opening and thought 'I don't remember this!'. Pity it never happened :-)

LOL! That would be terrific

They actually did "Happy house", never seen it on here though!

Rupert D. Bayer I too had to do a double take, as deep down I knew it did not compute...Sadly, the last year of Pan’s People on TOTP was ‘76.

There's a Sex Pistols Pans People dance . I think its Silly Thing.

+Steve Cournane You're welcome :o)

Hong Kong Garden was their mainstream song...

Siouxsie would rather die than get a gong. That would mean acceptance. She'd hate to be lumped in with Dave Gilmour, Sir Mick and Sir Rod. She's a proper, challenging artist not an-eager-to-please entertainer. There's a difference.

+cheekyberd... yeah you're probably right... it's just a common courtesy in this country. She has probably brought more industry to this country than the Royal Yacht.