Thanks, It's always important to me to try to cover the details I feel like are being missed

We got color key pass thru at least, and you can use keyboard tracking (doesn't have to be an exact keyboard, just pick a Logitech that's the same size as what you're using and it'll probably track)

I think immersed has that option

Yeah so far I'm starting to think it's more Android app implementation issues, because it doesn't seem to be consistent for all applications. I've dabbled and flutter development there's definitely tools and techniques you can use to make sure it scales properly. But I think a lot of app UIs lean on the standard phone form factor

@bc_labs Agreed, it's actually really interesting, I use a Samsung Galaxy S22, About half the time, that join voice channel pop-up shows correctly, the other half of the time it's halfway off the right side of my screen.

There is a program you can get that scans multiple rooms. I don't know why Oculus hasn't done it yet?

This really is a strange bug. I don't usually use Bluetooth devices with my quest other than a keyboard, but I was able to play around with it for 15 or so minutes with a Bluetooth keyboard without issue. I wonder if it's controller specific. Which kind of controller are you using Playstation or Xbox?

@@bc_labs I used both and had the same trouble. But maybe it’s because the apps are side loaded. Again though, it was only in the new supersized screen with the optional dimming. I’m not sure I saw you test that in the video… would be interesting to know if your keyboard works in that with normally installed apps

Although the music was just some synthwave, the album art definitely is not necessarily free of .... suggestive art. Might clip it out if I can, but it's also kind of funny.

Tried that, it wasn't available yet. Using Meadows website for updating only got me to v66 when I was already on v66. I was checking to see if anybody had saved their binaries from when they got the update, but had no success

I honestly don't know which one it was this time I just turned on some of my cyberpunk Lo-Fi I listen to, and try to keep it muted to avoid getting myself into trouble copyright wise.

Honestly I think a lot of these things are within the realm of possibility. But there will be trade-offs. The main thing they're running up against at this point I think is battery life. If it wasn't about battery life, and a little bit to the effect of heat, I see them be able to push the quest much further than it already has been. Apple literally had to essentially cheat by offloading the battery, and making it swappable, to get the Vision Pro to last long enough, and get the weight down enough. I do wish they had pushed the ram up to about 12gb, as I think that could yield more flexibility in terms of multitasking, as well as processing

Ask her what you said about being a cheaper Vision pro, I think we're already most of the way there. I used the Vision Pro during a demo and although it was a very seamless experience, there are a lot of shortcomings with it that the quest also suffers. Apple was just able to throw hardware, and money at most their problems. Meta is really having to optimize their software to keep the BOM budget oriented. I would have paid another $150 for the quest 3 to have eye tracking though.

@@bc_labs The biggest problem with Quest 3 isn't even the battery and that it gets hot since you can increase the battery with accessories (which also solve the comfort problem) plus you don't feel or barely feel the heat from it with its face cover , the biggest problem is the lack of ram and eye tracking, with 16gb of ram, foveated rendering and a Snapdragon® XR2 Plus Gen 2 it would be possible to have an excellent improvement in the power of the VR/AR headset, if all games could use it this extra power, games like the walking dead saints and sinner chapter 1 and asgard's wrath 2, which both with the graphical update for quest 3 would run at 120fps (they currently run at 72fps), in addition to getting all the power for multitasking too, is what I hope The Asus VR/MR gamer headset that will use Horizon OS has all these improvements (and if possible QLED + Mini LED or Micro OLED screens (of course if the field of vision is not smaller)), I would easily pay 1000 dollars for it.

Furthermore, even though Apple made the Apple Vision Pro costing a fortune, it did tremendous stupid things with it, starting by making its structure out of metal, which is something that will weigh you down, like if it were titanium, which is much lighter, ok, more It's not, another thing is the useless and very poorly made external screen that increases the weight even more, another thing is the battery that even if you take the parts out and you have a wire hanging with you, you still have the same battery as the Quest 3 or worse.

What about the anime chick getting railed on one of his screens???

Testing colors for the office, haha

You have to do the trade off of joining the PTC (Public Test Channel) to get early updates.

There are definitely improvements like that that I'd like to see, but this is definitely just their first update of many on this front. I'm just glad Meta is finally trying to make some advancements on this front. The UI has definitely been a weak point for a while.

😂😂😂😂😂😂 They do have a option to make any window flat or curved bro 😂😂😂

😂😂😂😂 And you can also pin the windows as well everything you said you can actually do watch other videos and you'll know 😉

@@jdarg4163 dude I meant in new UI :D Im using quest for 3 years dont teach me its OS xD

@@jdarg4163 I meant pinning 6 windows to dock but with placing them where ever you want

I pinned a comment correcting this, there was a minimized window that count against my total when I was testing and recording

If I hadn't loaned out my quest to I would try to get an answer for you. I haven't seen any sort of notification or updates indicating that the quest to supports this. But I imagine they are going to unify The UI is between Quest 2 and Quest 3 Comma But they might limit the number of Windows Further

@@bc_labs no worries - I enabled Experimental (new window support) on my Q2 and the functionality looks like yours (with less clear passthrough ofc)

@@JMX246 how many windows max? 3 floating and 3 fixed together?

@@bc_labs good question - Ill try and get all 6 going later when back with my headset

Apple isn't working off of hand tracking most of the time, and this is the first Meta update with the ability to pinch and pull flat apps off from the dock. There are some growing pains since this is a beta update, and I'm sure by the time it gets to the official release channel it'll be cleaned up a bit. But resizing was a bit finicky some of the time.

I wonder if you can side load it. Does it require root?

@bc_labs no root I managed to work everything except for the overlay on the quest is not allow that was when the 2 first came out. So I Don't know now

I pinned a comment on this because I was incorrect. It's three floating wherever you want, and three docked. I had a minimized tab which apparently counts against your 6 totsl. I haven't used used the spatial app but I know other apps like fluidd can have more windows but they are only browser windows. You can't run unique apps. So it is a bit different.

The Meta development team is separate than those that make games though, the Meta headset development team only works on software development for the headset, while the game developer Studios make the AAA games so there's really not a misdirection of effort. I personally think some of the multitasking capabilities are more important to me than gaming at times.

@@bc_labs to play around with this capabilities....

I will do some more testing to correct myself if I'm wrong. It's possible I had an item minimize. At one point I had minimize Telegram and I noticed that minimize items count against your number of windows. I thought I closed it but it's possible I didn't

I just tested further, and at first it was still only letting me have five. I rebooted my headset and I could use six. It looks like maybe my Horizon feed or something was minimized and not closed. But that is a gotcha everyone should be mindful of, minimized tabs count against your limit. It's not a 6 window cap, it's really a 6 open application cap it seems.

If yours didn't improve with v66, it could be that they haven't pushed the changes for your headset yet. It seems to be not tied exclusively to an update, but to either a server flag or by account/device. I saw a major jump with v64, and again with v66 with warping fixes. V67 didn't really affect my pass through much, but other people mentioned that they didn't have the warping fix until after v67

​@@bc_labsThe warping fix came with v67 on mine as well.

Pinnable to what? Like where you walk around and they move with you? I would like something like that to return, as well as I would like some better snapping tools to snap to your room ( I need to rescan my room with the current update to see if they added anything like that)

@@bc_labs on the oculus rift s there was a option to pin windows onto whatever youre doing so i would play my vr games and on the side was a pinned window to watch some streams or videos

Apple did better with an unlimited budget, and still has limitations. This device way too close to the AVP feature wise for something 1/7 the price. Apple needs to show it can make a Vision Pro lite for less than $1500, otherwise it basically will remain a dev kit. I was blown away when I used it, up until I ventured through the app store. Both need work on that front.