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@jayoddityАй бұрын
I didn't really mention the asset flip accusations....I assume many assets are bought but that by default wouldn't make a game good or bad
@jayoddityАй бұрын
I'm tired.... If people want a full impressions after I've played more, let me know
@ryuno2097Ай бұрын
@@jayoddityyes Jay. Rest up. When you have the time, do a full impressions. 😊
@FablerАй бұрын
Jay u are proof that sticking with a channel works. Legendary rise imo
@jayoddityАй бұрын
Thank you :-)
@DustinHarmsАй бұрын
Hey thanks for the video, but I feel the need to quell this whole "They're using Unity so that might be why the servers are bad" thing that always pops up when any Unity game is played by creators, and as usual, it's much more complicated than that. But as a gamedev myself, it's important to me that creators not perpetuate oversimplifications when it means bias toward any product, like a game engine. So I offer this, and I hope more creators do some research: Unity has a built-in networking system that is not made for MMOs (honestly, no off-the-shelf engine has an MMO-capable networking structure...every single one must be custom to support MMO scale), however it works fine for other networked games on a small scale. But my main point is that for *every* MMO that is serious about their product, a custom solution is needed, and the expertise to create such a thing is pretty important to be successful. It is not something a small team of new developers can easily take on. So whenever this conversation comes up about bad networking in a new MMO, I have to stress that it likely has almost nothing to do with the "game engine" (a broad term already), and everything to do with whatever solution the developer has chosen. It is possible that the developer has tried to adapt Unity's small-scale networking solution to an MMO, but literally anyone with any ounce of experience would know that's a terrible idea. So that brings me to this: I just wish people would separate the idea of an engine and a network structure, especially creators and reviewers. Game development is insanely complex and I don't expect everyone to actually understand, but I hope more folks simply choose to separate these concepts instead of incorrectly associating them, even with a "I'm not really sure how it works, but..." because even with that disclaimer, an audience often already trusts their judgement and will carry that thought to other projects or people until everyone is wrong. Anyway, sorry for the essay, but it just....always comes up. And for what it's worth, I think the Quinfall is simply a far-too-ambitious project by an inexperienced studio that is hoping their hype can bring them enough support to find someone to do it right, nothing more. And unfortunately, their passable graphics and hilariously naive claims are enough to garner just enough attention to see people's hopes rise and eventually be let down. Thanks for reading, appreciate the video.
@cristiandavidmorenopalacio3963Ай бұрын
If we take into account that it is a beta, this game has a lot of potential, in the short time it has been in development it has advanced more than many other games
@96Caleb96Ай бұрын
It's a terrible game man.. quit coping
@OryyytАй бұрын
cope
@LurnWellАй бұрын
I was impressed. Far better than Pax Dei and people praised that game.
@AleksiJuvakkaАй бұрын
Because Pax has the best building system in any game, rest of the game is mediocre though
@One-12937Ай бұрын
Pax absolute garbage
@OryyytАй бұрын
i really don't get why these devs try so hard to oversell and push out overly ambitious yet severely undercooked mmos..
@AleksiJuvakkaАй бұрын
@@Oryyyt Because making an MMO costs millions and they need funding
@LurnWellАй бұрын
@AleksiJuvakka That's an excuse. They don't even have basic skills in the game and it's an afterthought.
@Nyce-GamingАй бұрын
THOSE SQUIRRELS WERE SOOO ANNOYING
@spectrecular9721Ай бұрын
Guess they'll have to wait for the "MMO Server Fix" asset pack to be released on the Unity Store 😏
@AleksiJuvakkaАй бұрын
Using assets saves developer time and should be normalized
@spectrecular9721Ай бұрын
@AleksiJuvakka It is normalized. There's no issue using store-bought assets. It's literally why they exist. But there's definitely issues if over half your game is store-bought assets. Several issues, in fact. Especially from a hodgepodge of various, unrelated authors
@AleksiJuvakkaАй бұрын
@@spectrecular9721 If the assets work together and are the same style then I see no problem. There's no need to reinvent the wheel with every new game
@spectrecular9721Ай бұрын
@@AleksiJuvakka It's not about reinventing the wheel or not. It's about how capable your studio is on doing their own thing and not having to rely on random strangers to supply your project with unrelated content. If you can't do that, then how TF do you expect to build a functional game in easily the most difficult to manage and maintain genre in the history of gaming and network architecture? Every 12 year old forum dweller dreams of creating an MMO until the realization sets in that they don't even know how to create Tetris and MMOs are not 1-year solo projects
@DustinHarmsАй бұрын
@@AleksiJuvakka Seeing this comment, I understand the sentiment. I think it's awesome how accessible game development is nowadays, and how assets can absolutely accelerate the creation of a prototype. However, there is a functional problem with using a ton of disparate asset packs, from optimization to art direction and workflow. Then, there's the marketing charade - gamers don't often know the difference between a game that looks good and a game that's even somewhat close to finished, because up until recently, a game that looked finished was near the end of its development. Now, for the purposes of growing a fanbase, a developer can skip many, many steps in the core creation of a game and present something that looks much more finished than it is. And, if the product releases in this state, its development is further jeopardized when any changes have to be made under the pressure of a public eye. Or if they ever want to change those assets - these packs aren't a "one-size-fits-all" kind of thing; each one was created with its own workflow. What could be an easy change to one asset may take multiple times as long for another, or be impossible to substitute without a skilled artist able to match. Anyway, probably way more than is warranted for the conversation, but while I agree that asset packs are a net win for game development, they really do present a horde of problems and are in no way without downsides.
@EmeraldStudioSwedenАй бұрын
I've never understood why people bash games for using store bought assets. If indie devs can't afford to hire a 3d designer on full time, this is the best thing? Supporting solo designers business and improving your own?
@RussKarlbergАй бұрын
Just tried the beta - I like it! Sure, still needs work, but it looks great and I am just excited to play any new MMO at this point...
@nervsoulyАй бұрын
Any new MMO that isn't a themepark or PvP focused at least. I got zero will to try Throne and Liberty.
@RussKarlbergАй бұрын
@@nervsouly Yeah, actually I liked Quinfall a bit better then T&L...
7 күн бұрын
Didn’t know Max Verstappen doing mmo critics.
@jayoddity7 күн бұрын
Sad thing is, I'm a Lewis fan boy
@Dalton_ReedАй бұрын
The Gru comment killed me😂
@marttituominen1859Ай бұрын
Don't expect anything out of unity MMORPG
@okredor9398Ай бұрын
Well, call me amazed by the fact it does exist! not bad.
@abdesslemmostefai4442Ай бұрын
ty
@petemisc4291Ай бұрын
This a sub, one time purchase or free to play?
@billybonb6762Ай бұрын
i wish pax dei this combat. Would be so much better
@jpevcАй бұрын
better than pax dei 💀
@ARROWliАй бұрын
THIS GAME HONESTLY LOOKS SOLID AF
@jayoddityАй бұрын
THE BOW KING WOULD POP OFF
@strangefruitlovexАй бұрын
LOL
@jakopicАй бұрын
looks like combat from the first ashes of creation pvp test
@MyGamesterGamingАй бұрын
If they fix the servers I’ll 100% check out this game
@SwapwareGamesАй бұрын
Im loving it.. action cursor mode worked in SOTA.. but i like it, if the health went into negative hp you still get xp for the negative hits, you are wrong in alot of parts, its not a 2024 game its more like at 2015 mmo.. i liked SOTA so im hoping the devs get this right..
@SwapwareGamesАй бұрын
Devs have been very proactive rolling out lots of fixes .. its getting better each day.. it is a beta..
@qiuvic4762Ай бұрын
Why I can’t play he say invalid steam session id😢
@Wild_CatАй бұрын
The developer should just not waste time and cancel the game right now instead of just wasting everyone's time!
@johnmehrnicht5970Ай бұрын
Thats black desert online, in bad Map and inventory are the same, combat looks similar
@R173YАй бұрын
that was 100% warrior combat. the Gear tab looks the same, inventory...the monster images on the map...wtf is going on lol
@undeadno2Ай бұрын
dude, your standard is pretty low. :D
@ryuno2097Ай бұрын
hmmm... major cooldown on the skills when you change your weapon feels bad. So I guess you're suppose to just stick to one weapon?
@jayoddityАй бұрын
Already changed to 30 seconds now
@johnweig4667Ай бұрын
Is your character Jeff bridges? :)
@federico8519Ай бұрын
IM HOOOKED! I didnt expect it to be any good and im impressed, having fun so far
@Tyrfx6Ай бұрын
It’s like a janky BDO
@burakkalkan5339Ай бұрын
Nice game
@MrProbstandrewАй бұрын
or what about mount n blade 2 bannerlord? that might be a fun one, as NW exchange..
@mrnuggetz871Ай бұрын
It feels like a super cheap mix of Lineage 2 and New World. Also... 10:58 Jack Sparrow? I am sure they have rights to use that lol
@nightsofsorrowАй бұрын
still looks like a scam to me
@user-nl8ni3xw9vАй бұрын
Looks like BDO 2
@Npc_NateАй бұрын
Funny seeing so many of the same assets as Embers Adrift. Unity mmos all starting to look the same lol
@sweatystonerАй бұрын
Brother i dont mean this disrespectfully but ive never in my life seen a human that looked more like a pug game seems like "mom i want new world" mom: "we have new world at home"
@jayoddityАй бұрын
As long as it's a cute pug I don't mind
@MrProbstandrewАй бұрын
what about once human Jay? just launched, and seems to scratch alotta the same itches as NW did..(apart from the fps aspect) i just cant seem to find any other good mmo atm, to replace New World. so Once Human is perfect right now. and crazy is its free! i wonder if later seasons will see some monetisations aspects, or light p2w. atm all paying is cosmetic etc
@imperialorc1Ай бұрын
Pax dei is the new best mmo
@RussKarlbergАй бұрын
Agree, Once Human is great... but the server wipes make it not a real MMO, I think... I will play both and see how it goes...
@RussKarlbergАй бұрын
I can't wait to try it, looks almost as nice as New World...
@brugs628Ай бұрын
IMO: This looks like a New World done worse.
@LurnWellАй бұрын
New World wishes it had this customisation, PVP, and world freedom. This is more of a sandbox mmorpg. Still supporting New World too.
@Label07Ай бұрын
The real question is; will this game die faster than Pax Dei?
@LurnWellАй бұрын
Pax Dei didn't survive the first 10 minutes without me being disgusted. Technically, Quinfall has already lived longer with me.
@AleksiJuvakkaАй бұрын
Every game that you don't play must be dead
@djhorst9413Ай бұрын
what a troll game wtf
@galkanftwАй бұрын
First impression it looks empty ...zzzzzzzzzz.Something I said MANY years ago is that pvp never works unless it is a fully balanced setup like a fps shooter everyone same stats.Having said that in those cases liek the old Quake/Unreal games the gameplay still needs to feel intriguing and not just some giant empty space.
@LurnWellАй бұрын
Then you have been wrong for years....This game also has more PVE servers anyways..
@scarbunkerАй бұрын
This kind of like Dollar Tree New World. I know it is beta but it doesn’t look like it is even close to being done. It’s nice it is a “real” game but for me I will pass.
@frequencyoftruth2303Ай бұрын
Funny I always thought new world was the dollar tree MMO of 2022 and 23. Especially with it's tacked on combat, weapons, magic and pvp
@krystianwujec819919 күн бұрын
jak ty wygladasz xd
@vitalhandgrenade7210Ай бұрын
You forgot to put the word BAD after Real
@Putte82123Ай бұрын
It looks and plays like a game that has gone through 0 playtesting. And then u get the morons who say the game has "potential". Just shows the sad state of mmo-gaming.
@evolgenius1150Ай бұрын
🤔
@mightymort915Ай бұрын
MMOs nowadays go ZZZZzzzzz.. Hopefully the game gets better at release.
@RikitangoableАй бұрын
Copium
@silkroad780Ай бұрын
The game looks fun for me:)
@sween1432Ай бұрын
Bro. I like you. I like your videos. But those thumbnails, bro...no.
@jayoddityАй бұрын
Sorry mate, they are currently working on youtube so sort of sticking with the style
@KaybrisАй бұрын
😆
@arianaponytailАй бұрын
this games seems to be just as expected. over promises by an unexperianced developer. and janky bugs and bad server performance.
@gmovr3736Ай бұрын
New world open beta in 2021 was better than this, so I wont even bother :(
@cinorikese5890Ай бұрын
new world sucks, even now it still sucks
@iJokesterАй бұрын
why is the character so chubby bro💀
@jayoddityАй бұрын
I made it after my IRL size
@iJokesterАй бұрын
@@jayoddity ok that's a cool feature
@bravexheart7Ай бұрын
Pax dei is a 1000 x better than this crap
@imperialorc1Ай бұрын
I agree lol
@RatanaKhengChristyleАй бұрын
This looks like a downgraded Black Desert Online with a Survival twist
@travellingslimАй бұрын
What a surprise, it looks absolutely nothing like the announcement trailer
@Label07Ай бұрын
That worked for Chronicles of Elyria....LMAO
@RikitangoableАй бұрын
Dogwater, dont need to play to realize how much of a flop this'll be
@SimiusBlackАй бұрын
This is a Real Scam. Don’t buy this shit.
@fatjay9402Ай бұрын
Image making a game worse then New World.
@coopidonАй бұрын
Gothic 1 had better combat than this garbage. :))))
@bgh12gАй бұрын
oh look over here.. another pvp centric "mmo". is trash will be trash all pvp mmos will fail
@plusultra49615 күн бұрын
SCAM
@lechuck475Ай бұрын
Its awful
@anthragestormrider2493Ай бұрын
Not everyone thought it was a scam, only stupid and ignorant people.
@moo8698Ай бұрын
It is a scam, still. It's a totally empty shell. There's nothing in it just written ideas. For me it wouldn't take so much time to make this "game". Because 99% of it just an empty copy paste map. I can't even tell you how fast one person could make this. But there's nothing in it. When a heavy attack deals the same damage as the light.. In reality that would take a lot of testing to balance it out. They did not even bother to add some basic value. It's totally a scam. You'll never ever see this play as new world. Because it is a scam. As soon as they put on a price tag on it and you pay for it, you'll scammed. Just remember that.