There are mods for this also.

To the top with your great info.

@@tokiwartooth4404 Well yeah, but where's the fun on playing with mods that make this whole game easier? Most people like the challenge because they have to adapt and can't just kill everything with the same strat.

@@couchpotatoe91 I'm just saying some mods change how quirks work. So you can lock 5. That's one of the best things about PC video games. You should see my game. I cheat like crazy because it's fun to me. I successfully removed nearly all negative quirks from the game. I changed the chance to 0% I also have 5 trinkets slots :D 7 active combat skills (that's an easy one.) And a 32 slot inventory. The 16 slot default inventory sucks. I hate dropping things due to arbitrary game restrictions. It's like I'm playing an MMO and they want more money to unlock more space lol.

@@tokiwartooth4404 Well, to each his own. Personally I like darkest dungeon's difficulty exactly because it doesn't play like an MMO where the only thing that counts is the hours you've put in and not how good you are at the game.

I really wish ur username was Dismas

@@thememelord6510 lol true

@@thememelord6510 perpetuallyTired (of Reynauld's shit.)

_"Reynauld,Reynauld, what a prick."_

XD in that situation the negative quirks are almost a blessing since they block other bad ones

@@ShuffleFM now that i think about it, maybe this could have been mentioned in the video: one quirk to remove ASAP is one that forces a certain stress relief activity when another quirk denies the same thing (tippler and resolution, gambler and known cheat, love interest and deviant tastes, enlightened and unquiet mind, god fearing/flagellant and faithless/witness)

I got a graverobber with known cheat and gambler so she couldn't heal stress outside of dungeon runs, unfortunately I accidentally removed one of them through a curio sadly. I wanted to see how long until she died of a heart attack lol

gamblen’t

Got one Vestal with "ninfomania" and "strange kinks"

Just like my leper lmao

i have a hellion that has 3 negative quirks that debuff ranged skills, debuff to accuracy, crit chance and damage. its actually incredibly helpful since there are only 2 negative quirks left which might actually be problematic

OH WOE IS ME! I COULDN'T HIT THE BROAD SIDE OF A SHAMBLER IF IT STOOD STILL A MERE METER AWAY FROM MY NOSE! OH WOE IS ME *then why don't you just stab it?* ... GREAT SCOTT!

You laugh but her baseball career is ruined

That's why i was happy when my Jester got torn rotator. That's a worthless negative thingy and i like that

To make you even more mad?

@@Anergyne to make it seem like an even bigger downside. But it has been tuned down on the fake loot creation since what it used to be

Oh wow , now that is sadistic game design.

@@hatncloak45 And i love it.

@@hatncloak45 🌈Darkest Dungeon🌈

"without a shadow of a doubt" he says i can believe you have earned the stripes of those 300 hours be them wisdom strips, or scars

@@RookieREX the only thing you can be 100% sure of in darkest dungeon is that the game will screw you over at every possible opportunity

It likes to activate in piles, wanted the vestal to help others but bitch was like "I ain't equal for this"

I just had a Hellion to skip 4 turns out of 10 she did in total before i banished that cursed save file. So i guess it's more like 40%

I remember one crusader I had with Thick skin (+10% PROT). Stack that with glittering spaulders (+15% PROT) and the Bulwark of Faith skill (+30% PROT), and give him a Fortifying Garlic (+33% bleed and blight resist), and he was damn near unstoppable.

Its interesting, although I locked this quirk in the other day on a grave robber and immediately regretted it. I was thinking I would make her less squishy, then I realised how much money I was spending, and really needed upgrades to beat the 84 week Stygian goal. Prot is ok on front line units, but only if you lean into it, like you said, a crusader would be nice with his protection ability, which also marks him. But for any other character DOT is a worse threat than DMG and 10% PROT alone is 3 less damage on a 30 hit, seems a bit of a waste when you have quirks that can give 2 speed, 5 acc, 10% damage,-10% stress, 10% scouting, bleed or blight resistance or crit quirks, which work great on every character, at all times (except scouting). That 20% PROT head trinket is always an instant sell for me, I mean even if you stack one or two characters with prot, now they cant hit stuff without accuracy or you get surprised since you dont have a scouting trinket equipped and then your tanks get sent to the back of the line while your plague doctor eats a point blank shot.

Also cleansing crystal/fortifying garlic give a huge amount of dot resistance to the point of near-immunity. Prot is absolutely amazing in combination with a resist trinket to make most characters near-immune to hitting Death's Door before a healer can top them back off. Personally I consider Prot just slightly more valuable in a vacuum to an equal amount of %maxhp, and I absolutely love max hp. In Jestal comps it's even more valuable due to vestal's camp skills. Tough Ring/Fortifying Garlic is a thing of beauty in jestal or flagester parties. Even the 5% prot on your non-religious Jester is amazing to stack with a prot trinket/quirk when you were going to cast Pray anyway for 15% on your flag(Flajestal is absurdly good against the Courtyard: it's so sustainy that I often end up no longer giving a crap about hunger checks when making my path to the boss). You can get 15% resist stat from a quirk or 10% prot from a quirk. A trinket slot can give 66 to 80 percent combined resist stats, you can't get nearly the same value in prot from a trinket slot so locking in PROT quirks is super good so you can spend only one trinket slot on dot resistance and have your tankiness quota, freeing up your other slot for either damage, stress resist or piling on more prot

@@Harrier_DuBois I like prot especially for man in arms with Ancestor's Signet Ring plus hard skinned (ez 20% prot) plus his skill 50% prot only with 1 trinket (plus 10 acc) i dont need more and i can tank a critical Treebranch Smackdown without problems plus if you use occultist's weaking curse nulificate all dmg this strategy is good for me specially in weald i do a lot of champions long runs without problems

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Thats funny my Dismas has that too lmao

Search for 'Removed Level Restrictions' on ModDB/Nexus/Steam Workshop, I can't play without it.

There is an event in the hamlet that removes level restrictions for one run

Yo. Do you know that the first quest (Scout Ruins Tutorial) is a Scripted? Always the same monsters, always the same placements for loots and rewards? Ok you do know that. BUT(T) Do you know that evading the dungeon after the first little chest let the quest locked when you retry it (without passing the first week)? (Dark runs ratio; 1kgolds/heirlooms). It means basically that you can use one of your char level 1 to clear easily the two little walkers, grab two loot spawn, without using any stuff, and gaining no negative perks cos you know, you just entered the ruins, you wont be rewarded or penalised with those. But it get's better. Cos even if it's cool to repeat and repeat again the same quest, well, sanity is now rising at an alarming point, and all hope seems lost. Aragorn is now calling for a final charge and you are so fecked. So use TWO (Omagawd) chars to clear the walkers, go in the next corridor and do the next fight (easy win, 3 monsters). enter the new room (go wild and take one of the two corridor to grab the backpack) and evade. Omagawd. This time, you gained perks/quirks The week has now passed, fresh new heroes are coming to your shi.nice little hamlet looking for glory and loot! But the same scripted quest is still here, waiting to be failed again. And again. And again. And again. So now you're week 10, failing to simply do the first quest tutorial, Braining the game that just want to kill you with love, stacking those nice heirlooms to upgrade the guild (oh yes, I forgot to mention. Fail 3 times in Quick mode to open all buildings in the hamlet), and the Blacksmith. And of course the stagecoach. It's now a national sport to enter the ruins and run the fast you can to the different loot grab and get the feck out! At this point, you have (with luck and abnegation) some antiquarian who rush in, allowing you to do quick runs for 1k/2k (1m30s without loading screens cos hey, if you play on a pile of rocks shaped like a computer like me, it's more 2m30) and "Long runs" where you go for the big chest (you'll auto loot a key in the bag before entering, because you cured Reynault of his bad habbit to take YOUR stuff) (2k/5k) (5 min 45s for my lamest rush). Wow, now, you have like 40000 golds, and if lucky, you can grab a level one hero per week, fully upgraded and ready to bolster your main rosters. You won some pretty lame trinkets that a better to be sell, allowing you to clean and lock perks for your main roster. And because your god damn smart, you didn't just cleared ALL heroes and stuff. Noooo! You're a antisocial bastard and heroes are just here to go in the dungeon, get insane and get back with more LOÛT, ready to be dismissed and replaced. You are the god of that estate now, with your ability to bend the time. You can break any rules. This whole universe can die in a single deleting click of your savefiles! What a guy/gale! You know than soon, you'll be able to recruit level 2 heroes with your stage coach! And if you grew weary of doing the same dungeon again, just get some mods and do the same with.. I dunno Sunward Islands? (10kgold, same Scripting device, but loots are now randoms. you can get big, and you can get killed) BUTT TZAT SHEATING! Nope. I just read the newspaper the other day while wallking the dog that I don't have that says that is not really an exploit. Noooooo. Mods are not an exploit too. Cos you know, achievements are still here. So why do all the stuff I said instead of downloading some mods that allow you to have a complete roster of hero first week, or tweaking your heroes to make them so overpowered they can litterally enter the dungeon and pinch packs of mobs to death, screwing the Collector, the Shambler and God in the same room without ever loosing so much than an Hit point? You read this WHOOOOOOLE damn thing. So you already know the answer; You're in hell. You're here to suffer. You played this game so much, and put so much sweat and blood in it, that you're now afflicted. You're red Hooked! That's why you cant just Nuke the ruins of out existence with trebuchet build with the remain of the hamlet, burn the weald to put a nice parking instead, and just exterminatus the whole place with your space marine barge in orbit. To sume up, as a good cultist friend of mine one said: AwulUllUlu AWuuUUuUu. The Goat OUT!

.. So I see the 'Rona quarantine is effecting some of us more than others.

DEREK!

I think "Mercurial" is pretty inconsequential, unless you're intentionally virtue-fishing (like Crimson Court trinket set Highwayman, for example). Base virtue chance is so low that it's generally better to avoid stress as much as possible, anyway. And honestly, I don't mind "Imposter Syndrome" that much. It doesn't proc very often.

W list. Only small note is that prismatic ones are all automatically locked in (though I’m pretty sure corvid ones are not)

Auto remove for me: Kleptomaniac: you know. Compulsive: annoyance goes hard Demonomania: compulsive again Mercurial (unless on leper or flagellant): me like virtue :( Weak grip on life: deathblow resist i need Antsy: +20 stress when nothing is done Perfectionist: +5 stress for every miss, very relatable

What does it mean to lock in? Noob asking. Thanks.

@@errmack3004 it means you make it permanent =)

It's short though.

"You can go to the brothel now! Never mind that this character will only Flagellate"

i think this has changed to the opposite

That is so damn unfortunate. I have never seen that before haha

one time i had about half my team get antsy (gain stress if idle). needless to say, about half my team would spend time in the treatment ward

*whistle*

It's Reynauld's old crew!

"so what can I do to relieve stress?" "No"

I can't remember what I said in the video but I would say compulsive is easily in the running for worst negative quirk. Yeah fading and nervous and stuff are really bad, but as you said compulsive can ruin critical curio like coral.

i know this is late but if you can predict the curious and compulsive effect, i think you can right click on the item you need from your inventory to interact before he activates the negative effect. it will be wasted but it's better than getting the negative quirk, sickness or debuff

Reynauld taught Dismas the five finger discount

Love wins 👉❤️👈

Im have a negative quirk irl where i waste all the gold removing negative quirks from my dudes, diseases too!

Without a doubt. The AI clearly target with purpose. You’d think it might be based on simply them preferring the target for other reasons which causes accumulated stress-maybe low dodge chance or something-but then when characters who they haven’t been targeting gets stress elsewhere they’re all over them

Definitely true(spoilers below) The tanky guys in the third darkest dungeon quest targeted my arbalest and vestel with digestion, except in my last fight with them, which is when i used holy water on both of them It then only targeted my riposte-ready highwayman

Thanks! That's a good idea too, I forgot about those new enemies. The skiver specifically is pretty troublesome imo. It puts out a lot of damage at 9 speed I think.

Maximizing negatives is the sign of a strong player, well done

@@ShuffleFM My man actually replying to comments on a 2 year old video. Mad impressed, I like your dedication. Your videos are great even for someone in the middle ground between novice and veteran player. Hope you keep up the good work.

I am totally doing this, but I was running a bounty hunter/arbalest build where he would mark and she would usually snipe the back. Deliberately slowing her might help this be a bit more reliable. Thanks. Just got the game and I have been enjoying the depth of play.

Thats a good idea!

Might be worth locking in Irrepressible at that point, that's a pretty spicy idea.

@@ShuffleFM That basically means he has a 3 in 4 chance of getting a Virtue before other factors are taken into account.

@Lilith does stuff Really? When I checked the wiki, it said that the Virtue Chance was capped at 95%. Though whether it's a 67% chance, a 75% chance, or even a 90% chance, I'm never one to bank on Virtue Chances alone.

It means a lot, thank you. The hours of work feel worth it when people enjoy it.

Thanks! Are you asking about things like turn by turn choices? I think I can make something about that but I want to make sure I understand your idea :) Also if you haven't seen it I'm gonna plug myself with my first playthrough of Darkest Dungeon. I do a lot of thinking out loud and I struggled quite a bit learning the game at first. So maybe there's something in there for you while I work on this lol. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rNGghcuDlZrak2g.html

@@ShuffleFM thats exactly what i meant man! basically, how you pair your team together when taking into account which moveset they have and how they will work in tandem with each other, and then once in battle your turn by turn choices, how you are approaching said battle and using the moves accordingly. I hope that's not too in depth. there are so many variables to consider between moves, trinkets, party members, area of exploration etc I think I spend more time looking at that stuff than actually in the dungeon hahaha and i will def check that video out in the meantime. thanks again!

Grats and oof at the same time

Same here. My arbalest is a damned magpie now.

RIP

I ignored quirks that's not called kleptomania until ~90th week where I unlocked every district and have guild, blacksmith and stagecoach fully upgraded. I thought it was too late.... ending up spending 30 weeks to farm quirks and trinkets, and fighting the annoying crimson court bosses. Not even sure if it's necessary lmao

That is awful haha

Ah yes, the inverse Thrice-Damned Mizir

Not quite, Tippler just makes someone married to the bar for stress relief. You're thinking of a different quirk, I forget the name but it's described as "has an intense craving for alcohol." Also the kegs are in the warrens, not the ruins.

@@Team_Orchid Yes. Yes I am. The food and drink obsession, sorry, they all blur together to me sometimes. I still wish for a 'Takes no BS' quirk. Someone in the party klepto-ing loot or babbling abuse? The Take No BS character shuts em down with a 1 or 2 hp backhand.

@@Babbleplay Put that on all my Antiquarians please and thank you.

I had no idea, good to know!

ShuffleFM What’s your opinion on Grey Rot?

It can be good on characters that don't need to deal direct damage. First thing that comes to mind is plague doctor and antiquarian. PD gets accuracy from blasphemous vial iirc which is plenty to offset it. Otherwise jester and occultist could also make use of it.

ShuffleFM Shame that there isn’t a building to give/lock diseases, it would be a lot easier to get/keep the good ones

Does egomaniac activate if the hero is chosen, or it doesn't matter if the hero is chosen or not at the time?

signs of this are high stress 1 or more dead heroes or unsustainable low health

I appreciate the well thought out and argued post, and you're right that dodge is the least consistent stat since it's all or nothing. The reason I value it so high is because the defensive aspect of the game is more than flat on hit style damage. Most characters are around 45hp or less, to me the mathematical way that prot functions is it extends your hp count against direct hits. This means that it scales worse for character with low hp while being much better with high hp. Your example favorably sets up your point which is fine, but even with those numbers dodge still isn't unappealing. I would value it more than prot by any means. For instance say the enemy does 2 shot you, you land at deaths door, prot no longer matters while dodge does. If I were to use a counter example, I would say that most attacks in the game are not threatening by their direct damage alone. Prot doesn't have a notable impact against the 2dmg attack that leaves a bleed, or the 20 stress damage blast, or the enemy stun, or the enemy push and pull attack. It isn't that prot isn't useful, it's that it only shines in a small amount of scenarios whereas dodge gets you past more situations. It is inconsistent, but it's also more applicable imo. Again thanks for the thought out and attentive post :)

In my honest opinion, most units that are under the sub 45 hp threshold are likely going to be spec'd more towards damage with a few exceptions. I don't see dodge gained from quirks as being advantageous unless they already had a high base dodge as adding 5 to let's say 10% dodge doesn't do much for the character's noticeable survivability compared to adding 5 to 30% dodge. I'd opt for dodge the least on characters like Lepers/Crusaders/MAA but maybe consider it for Jesters/Grave Robbers/HWM Yes I agree that dodge matters, but I can never rely on a dodging in tough situations as a series of low rolls can easily ruin anyone's day.

@Afqwa EHP has the issue of being highly situational, so i disagree with the simple formula what makes this whole conversation difficult is that 10% dodge /= 90% hit chance, at which point 10% Prot = 10% Dodge (in EHP, not considering other possible effects, so calculating dodge / prot / acc is getting significantly harder to put into real numbers) for DD4, i'd say dodge is way stronger as there isn't mainly flat dmg, rather DoT or stress. for other areas, i'd say weald/cove are better with prot (and bandages), the warrens definetly are better with dodge also: i don't fully understand what you mean by "I'm also fairly certain that PROT does nothing to mitigate crit damage", i do know for certain that when attacking enemies, it's mitigated and doubled (don't know the order, it's (2x)/(1-PROT), but depending on when the rounding happens the order doesn't matter anyway)

@@ShuffleFM Dodge does great value for your average damage taken, but an average fight in DD is an absolute curbstomp in favor of the player anyway. A campaign stretching from the Old Road to the Heart will consist of hundreds of fights and well into the 4 digits of attacks being thrown at your characters. An average fight by definition was a winning fight for the player, seeing as you had to beat a couple hundred total battles to kill the Heart and you couldn't have lost more than a handful of them on Stygian/Bloodmoon (and even on Darkest difficulty you're still not going to break higher than a 1% squad wipe average I don't think even if you're terrible). The true challenge of DD is that across 2 thousand attacks being thrown at your party over the course of the campaign you're going to roll snake eyes multiple times in a row at a few points. Boosting DOT-resistance to at- or near-immunity for the enemies you're facing is the #1 priority since it's really easy to hit and there's a huge payoff for doing so (1 resist trinket grants near immunity and a resist trinket plus another source such as a quirk campskill or other will often grant total immunity), and the #2 priority is boosting effective HP vs upfront damage. It's very rare for fights to take you from 0 to heart attack in the course of 2 rounds of a bad rng string, basically only Shambler can do it. Minimizing stress is more of a tightening-execution problem than a stat investment problem since stress buildup happens over a longer term than getting crit to death's door and dotted. Dodge, Dot-resist, stress-resist and Prot all have the quality that the more of them you have the better the next point of it is, and while Dodge gives great average results, prot and dot-resist are just so amazing vs the deadliest attacks like The Finger or Stinger Shot that it overshadows the average benefit that doesn't really need a boost.

@@sesquame9527 I agree that dot resists are fantastic. In the cove for instance, my 2 frontliners almost always have 1 or 2 bleed resist trinkets between them. My reason for valuing dodge so highly is this: not all attacks leave a dot, or stress, or do big direct damage, or shuffle, or stun etc; however, every attack needs to make contact to do something to you. Dodge is the core mechanic that combats every offense. The best argument against it is it's inconsistency, so that was a good one to target. I would also argue that dodge contributes to EHP, though it is harder to calculate and more variable. Stress isn't about going to heart attack range in a few rounds, it's about the longterm damage it does to your party. HP and mortality debuffs are healed at the end of every mission. Stress forces heroes to skip weeks and eats up gold to fix. Even in your example with the finger, the threat is the bleed it leaves behind more than the direct damage. Prot doesn't matter much there. If a giant swings the tree branch at me twice, I'd rather dodge 1 of those than get hit twice for 50 damage - whatever my prot is. High dodge can totally break fight mechanics, whereas having hp and prot means you still have to play fair. I think you can make a great case for resists and I agree they are amazing. Prot only shines with high hp pools, and because of that codependency, I cannot in good faith call it the best defensive mechanic. Maybe if a character existed that used invigorating vapors-but-prot-instead I would change my mind.

P.s. I thought I hit the jackpot when I found a +10 death low resist on my flagellant and added a trinket for +10 more, but then learned deathblow caps at 87.. 🙃. Heh, still good but not game breaking like I thought it’d be. 🥦🦖

Can you? I've never had that happen. Is it because I unequip trinkets after each mission?

@@ShuffleFM it's only for tavern activities. It's also a low chance, and the chance for actually noticable trinkets to be lost is below 1%

@@ShuffleFM I'm also pretty sure it takes from your general inventory

Ah that makes sense. I prefer using the abbey for stress relief so I must never see it. I know you can lose stuff at gambling though.

@@ShuffleFM yes, if nothing is equipped while healing stress in the facilities, nothing can get lost I have developed the habit of removing trinkets from everyone before sending heroes to the buildings

There is logic to slow speed, but I still think it's a negative overall. For instance if my Vestal goes early in the round I would rather have her stun than wait and heal. Your heal moves usually do less recovery than the damage the enemy inflicts. Slowdraw would be preferrable to slow reflexes, because I think consistently going last in the round has too many vulnerabilities.

@@ShuffleFM Yes, I prefer slow draw, not just a constant speed reduction. My problem with the stun move is the high resistance some foes have to it. Wasting a vestal's entire turn seems pretty bad to me, whereas heals are guaranteed to land. Honestly, I tend not to use stun builds very often, it's just a personal preference, but stun always seemed too risky to me, not just with the vestal, but also kind of in general. Stun moves don't do a lot of damage and they have to both hit AND bypass the stun resist. That's 2 rolls you have to pass. Yeah it's a very high reward move but to me the risk is too high. That's not to say I never stun at all, but I try to avoid it if I can. Honestly, it's a miracle I managed to beat Darkest Dungeon considering how salty I can get when rolls go bad...I guess that's why it took me as long as it did to finish the game. Let's just say I've abandoned a lot of playthroughs and started over months after...

@@davidbodor1762 It happens lol, this game can get to all of us at some point.

They are, you're right. The quirk system is a bit more rewarding if you invest in someone early and keep them for a long time. Still, if you already have a couple good quirks locked in on a high level person it's usually worth the gold to keep them strong.

@@ShuffleFM Fair point. If I feel really stingy with my money, I usually just bring med herbs to the cove (and hope no curious fingers touch the coral first)

There's a lot to unpack here so I apologize for the potentially long answer. - For roster just take who you are comfortable with. Going with 1 of each hero and 2 of your favorites is a good starting point to fill the upgraded roster. - Quirks actually aren't worth building around. The bonuses arre good but not game breaking, which is why a lot of the ones I sugges are generalist and applicable anywhere for that hero like speed on plague doctor or melee crit on hellion. You don't need torchless quirks unless you're doing full on low light the entire playthrough, otherwise they are too expensive and situational. Just get good general quirks on heroes that they don't need much support to make use of so they can mix into different teams easily. - People have been asking for quicker guides so I'm in the process of figuring out how best to do that. - Every Vestal that isn't specifically mace bash Vestal should be using judgment/dazzling/both heals. It's easy and straight forward. Mace bash would be melee attack/stun/aoe heal/hand of light from rank 2. You can put her in 1 but your options are much more limited, but it still works well. - I was going to make some region guides that included team suggestions, but I can see what else I can do as well. Thanks for the feedback, I appreciate it. There are only so many hours in the day so we'll see what I can put out in the next few weeks.

@@ShuffleFM yeah, i kind of rambled. thanks for the advice its a grate game, should have tried it earlier. pretty fascinating how they got every hero to be so unique and stay relatively balanced. sooo many combinations, its braking my minmax brain) and after playing some more and reading the wiki, your guides are actually pretty on point. and getting better with every new one. keep up the great work)

I should just take her into the warrens. Either she finds one of those curio quirk removers or she doesn't leave.

D:

Dedication lol

I am mostly a leper guy, so all of them are super good on him (including hippocratic because of solemnity) and especially Hot to Trot, if he can't downright kill something first turn, i'll use purge for damage/ACC boost instead without missing. Natural swing is also insta lock on leper With deadly, i think the specialised ones for either ranged or melee give more crit, but you know more crit is always good. (also because each class has a different buff on crit) Extra ACC just depends on how much ACC each skill has, leper's acc is low on most skills, in contrast arbalest has high ACC. I think it's best used on leper/houndmaster, but really, it doesn't hurt. Prismatic quirks are also insta locked and don't count towards the 3 locked ones. These are the most powerful ones. One of them is crit but I can't remember for how much, pretty sure it was higher than 3%

Reddit says both should activate, so I'll trust it. Awesome question!

I have individual class guides coming soon, if that's what you mean.

@@ShuffleFM I was referring more to the proportion of each type of hero in reserve, I don't know which one is better or more versatile and worth having 2 or 3 of the same type

Oh that's an interesting idea. I could do that.

Is it? I thought it increased chance of winning but didn't guarantee it. Maybe it's better than I gave it credit for.

@@ShuffleFM Im not completely sure if you win every time but every time i get skilled gambler on someone i lock it in because it is a nice and easy way to gain 3 - 5ish thousand gold on the side.

You the real MVP.

I can see it for the Leper but I don't know how great it is. Last time I looked it up people had it at about the same effectiveness as the +5 accuracy quirk. Need to see some hard math on it, but if it rerolled crit chance as well I would say it's better. It's a safe lock on Leper most likely, no one else imo.

@@ShuffleFM Awesome analysis sir. The ones that don't clearly state their numerical impact are head scratchers. Hope school and the ladies are treating you well lol You're probably graduated and married by now... 3 years later

@@dradney Thanks, I appreciate it. I'm actually graduating this semester and I'm with someone new so the married thing will be a while lol.

Yeah this one is nice, basically an accuracy buff, would be interested to know what the chance is though, it may actually be better than the 5 ACC quirk.

@@Harrier_DuBois I think this perk is quit bad (sorry). Lets assume you have a Leper with 80 % hitchance. If He misses (20% of the time) you have a 10% chance to turn it into a hit. Thats an all in all hitrate of 82%. (0.8 + 0.2*0.1 = 0.82). It is rumored that it works more offen, but If it works as stated above (as the wiki says) its pretty bad.