Sahih al Bukhari 2658: The Prophet said, "Isn't the witness of a woman equal to half of that of a man?" The women said, "Yes." He said, "This is because of the deficiency of a woman's mind."

@Aar Somali yeah. Men and women aren't equal lol. Islam doesn't take them as equal sure to their differences.

@@quintuslentulus6183 out of context

@Somali Waaqale just because women will have wealth from her husband too

@@russ8156 ok, then you put in the context? Tell me what is the full context

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@Yotchat Margui both!

@Taimoor Khan Quran statement is about general women who do not deal with money transaction most of the time

Yes it IS about experience in business. Something most wimen do not like to have. That's why God has given the responsibility to their close relative men. If THEY fail in their responsibility, they will stand before God on the day of judgement for failure in their responsibility

@@farzanatasneem its not about buisness actually , it's about about debt and loan

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Sahih al Bukhari 2658: The Prophet said, "Isn't the witness of a woman equal to half of that of a man?" The women said, "Yes." He said, "This is because of the deficiency of a woman's mind."

@Great Khan No because Allah said so

Seconic 1 One has to be brilliant to be deceptive and convincing to construct an appealing presentation of Islam. Like a brilliant lawyer. Don't be swindled by Islam. The one true God who gave you life and can save you from death is waiting for you.

Don't patronize me and don't turn this into a personal rant against Dr. Shabir.

Seconic 1 Why are you Muslim?

@@earthtones1138 so many reason

We don’t decide judgments otherwise it would be subjective and this would give way to misinterpretation of the Quran and sunnah. The commentary of the Quran and sunnah already explains how we should apply these texts. The commentary is the explanation by the prophet and his companions and their understanding. We shouldn’t be taken the Quran and sunnah to decide whether it’s time specific or not. That question is already answered in the commentary a.k.a Tafsir.

when u read more n more then u get to know about these excuses , today in modern world it is getting very hard to hide these things for scholars so they invent new things every time

Common sense

The womens witness rule for contracts is in the Quran, its not a hadith. The problem is that in Islamic jurisprudence some literalist scholars use their principle of qiyas (analogical reasoning) to generalize the womens witness rule to other situations.

@@roberthannah7983 Actually Qiyas is forbidden by the first Muslims as it takes one away from original command

@@m.waheedanwar7105 We would have to scrap a lot of fiqh, but that would not bother me.

There are situations that did not occur in the time of Muhammad(pbuh) and thus were not resolved by a revelation. But it happens today and, folowing the traditional view, we are made to ask ulemas for answers. Those ulemas will use Quran then hadiths then past occurences to give us a response. It is clear that some matters were related to the time of the prophet.

I guess the answer I'd that the general rule is that majority of the Qur'an is relevant for all time although there may be some passages that may be in a certain context or maybe time relevant. We differentiate this based on individual circumstances that may arise and let the scholars of Islam do this part since they would be more knowledgeable. not any average joe can do this. Hope that answers your question :)

This can be seen in the quran itself, but the context should be studied thoroughly though. The example of this aya in surat al-baqarah: you should know what surat al baqarah is talking about, what is its maqsid (goal it wants to lead the muslim to), and how it explains that maqsid. Following out of this, is the aya part of the maqsid or is it giving examples which illuminate what direction the maqsid goes to? As for surat al baqarah, it tells about the mistakes the previous muslims (jews and christians) made, and the maqsid of the surah is thus warning muslims of not making the same mistakes. To make clear how to understand this maqsid, Allah tells us what one should or should not believe, and how to act in our daily life on these beliefs. Then He illuminates the subject of spending money; it can be mandatory (eg zakat), rewarded and good (eg sadaqah and spending on orphans), forbidden (eg riba), hated (eg being too greedy), or just mubah; and for this last one the aya of business (ayat ad-dayn) is given in which the 2 women are given in place of 1 man). So from looking at the entire context of this surat one can extract that this verse is referring to an example, and as thus can not be generalised. Then, to make sure that we understand this aya correctly, we should do taqrir (taking all ayat and ahadith about this subject together) to form a solid, correct view. As for this subject, the shaykh already mentioned the vowing situation in which 1 woman is equal to 1 man. Ulama also agree that for women business (pregnancy and childbirth, menses and breastfeeding eg) one female women outnumbers 1 male. Her testimony is more powerful. So by looking at all this we can indeed say that the aya in surat albaqarah referringcto women's testimony is indeed ONLY a given example, which makes it changeable to times and circumstances. For this reason the linguistic scholar Abu Hayyan wrote in his tafsir on this verse that the arabic word for witness used is 'shaheed' and not 'shaahid', which means it is a superlative. It is not someone who SAW what happened, but one who UNDERSTOOD VERY WELL what happened. It was an expert in this field. So Abu Hayyan says the verse is in fact not referring to male and female, but to experts and amateuristic people. And since commerce at that thime was ruled by men, the example is used as the male expert and the female beginner. But any case in which a female is an expert and a male a layman, the court would need 2 men for 1 woman. So it's in fact just stipulating the difference between people of knowledge and people without thorough knowledge.

Oh and by the way, did you know that the khalifa Umar ibn al-Khattab (who became khalifa 2 years after the death of the prophet Muhammad) made a woman the highest official of the market trade business? So her word was the highest. The Companions themselves knew that this verse was not gender related. It's just the modern world with its concentration on gender related isues that sees it like that.

We not the same we have a different anatomy as a result women have the mensteration period which make here change physical and behavior and that is a repetetive cycle that's why u need another woman there so they comfort and help each other in case one or both going through ther period.u could check what physical and emotional changes women go through so it makes a lot of sence by

Agreed 💯

Quran is for BEST INTERPRETATION for implementing on the society. If a woman of village who has never dealt with such contract is being involved, extra precautions need to be taken.

right? and in a patriarchal society where the men hold ALL of the power, it's the men who get to interpret the verses. works out GREAT for everyone. 🙄

@@calonstanni Thankfully not in Islamic tradition....as we have lot of female scholarship in our history

@@ather319 In your history? LOTS? nope. No you don't. You have very FEW women scholars and they DON'T have the respect nor hold the sway that them men have, nor have they ever. Islamic tradition has never given women their share of power, education, respect, autonomy, freedom, money...and it's even worse now unless you're a muslim in a christian or secular nation, where we don't force women to live like mushrooms in the dark.

@@ather319 Can you name a single Islamic country where women and non-Islams and gays are 'not' second class citizens?

Absolutely…He has so much knowledge that alot of Islamic ‘scholars’ hiding their bigotry with ‘Islam’ might need to learn a thing or two from him…

That actually makes alot of sense, its sad that so many muslims are uneducated on their own faith and dont understand this simple fact. I've heard other muslim women saying its because we're not smart enough in financial matters, misinformation is ruining the ummah.

first of all, it says two men witnesses for when a financial contract is signed - not if. second, nowhere in the quran it says that if the parties are happy with 1 man and woman its all good. it clearly says two muslim men, and 2 women if a man isnt available. please check your facts before trying to make quran look and seem normal :)

So all of what you said here amounts to merely assertions, and so that which is asserted without evidence, can be dismissed. I recommend providing evidence that the Quran is really saying all that instead of what it looks like it's saying.

Question: If Mohammed was doing all the financial transactions and "heavy lifting" for his wife...how was she conducting business before they met? I mean when they married she was already a business woman and she was a bit older than he so she was doing this for a while so.... I dont understand.

@@Hum8L3S3rv4nT Exactly. Not only was she conducting business before they met, she was a very successful businesswoman. This demonstrates that women are just as capable as men in financial matters.

@@brucewayne7875 @Jan yes, she was successful business woman, Islam never stops woman doing business, It is only a preferable choice for woman to stay without any financial responsibility. Man has been asked to care for her in financial matters, it is man's responsibility according to Islamic law. But if she wants to contribute she can do so happily.

Usman012813 Mohamed’s first wife was a business woman. 👍🏼

@jchc VV khadeeja.

Lol 😂 you’re so desperate

@jchc VV ya not the 10 year old..y u r trying so hard to provoke???.😂.

@jchc VV you could have asked whether it is aayisha oru kadhijaa...y are u so eager to point out the age?? Above all ayisha never made a complaint against prophet muhamed in her entire life..al he was intrsted in preaching his teachings even after his death.. If u learn more about the social structure of that time and the life of prophet ,u might get an idea about how feeble your question is..it is a very outdated accusition my dear😁

The ethical message.

Hopefully only the good parts and get rid of all the barbaric parts.

@@Crazy88277 The WHOLE Quran. We will never abandon a single verse of the Qur'an, even if the disbelievers detest. Glory be to Allah

@@Nasserist1969 crazy guy Nobody detests. Believe what you want. Be as crazy as you want. I’m just trying to help someone live a nice balanced life so they don’t become crazy like you. Take it easy buddy.

@@Crazy88277 Now you are acting all angelic, when in your comment you have offended Islam by calling it 'barbaric '. Don't act all innocent

Except that the Hadith needs to be non-genuine in order for that to happen. Sahih Bukhari is considered the most genuine collection of hadith.

@@mikep8071 a lot of Hadith s in Sahih Bukhari are contradictory as well.. look it up…We would need to bring back the practice of ijtihad…Even in Hadith and Quran…it’s expressed that even Prophet’s generation won’t understand about The meaning of Verses in Quran as compared to the further generations.:.. Just like the world…The interpretation of Quran also change and improve…l

@@ithinkiknowme6450 Also, I came across the fact that we dont even have the original writings of Bukhari and Muslim anymore - just some fragments and the narrations in turn of their students.

Yes many scholars think this way.

It's timeless but it depends on situation. And many times with time situation also changes so it may appear to be time specific but actually it is not!

@@russ8156 Society evolves and institutions change, but the ethical principles are timeless. Consequently the specific solutions change when the principles are applied to the evolving society.

It needs a lot of time to understand such scholarly knowledge. Just mastering the Arabic language can take you 20 years long. Can't imagine being certified to give legal rulings in Islam.

@@mabrookalayk8277 The womens witness rule in the Quran 2:282 is pretty clear, and it clearly conflicts with the modern approach to gender equality. You do not need to hide behind "scholarship" and "certification". The only reasonable explanation for it is that it was historical and no longer applicable. On "scholarship" - there have been a host of silly fatwas issued over the years by scholars.

How about slavery, it was allowed and the Quran never forbade, work on that one

common sense

well slavery, marrying your cousin, marrying when puberty hits some kids hit puberty very early), I feel like reasons like this are valid enough

there’s verses in the Quran literally only directly speaking to the prophets wives, that’s for one

@@momay2670 that's different. Particular people die, but concepts (like a witness during a contract agreement) don't

We know this verse is time-sensitive because there are two other verses in the Quran which deal with witnesses, both are gender neutral. If it was something wrong with a woman they would not be neutral.

@@alihijazi2655 right! And I also think its part of the test, who will twist the meaning to further their own sexist agendas and who will not.

Mariz first of all let me thank you for the wonderful piece of information you shared with us on the issue. I think we need more research on the pregnancy related memory deficiency to reach a solid level, and once that is done a literary and permanent understanding of the related Quranic passage would hold true. On the other hand Dr. Shabir did a good job to enlighten the issue particularly in the light of marital conflict situation in which testimony of both parties is treated as equal. Thanks again for the information and if you have further knowledge on the issue I would be more than grateful to have it.

What if the the other woman also gets pregnant and develops a preg head

What a great answer. Best I heard so far, makes soooooo much more sense. Plus I'm sure it would be pretty frightening to have to be a witness as a woman at that time or even any time except for our modern day women lol so that second woman to support and maybe even remind her of something she might have left off that could be a damaging detail related to the case. Just my opinion not saying this is fact.

@@kindatheist4216 hahahaha very good question we need third one, but wait she might get pregnant too, but sister raised good information but needs solid research

A preg woman doesn't necessarily ALWAYS forget..but she has a higher chance of forgetting.. So the second woman is there JUST IN CASE.. So no u don't need a third one

is very simple the answer is because of the mensteration period within and before that period there's a lot of changes and girls know that and it's a regular think so u check the symptoms of the period and decide is better to have only one woman witness on that state or two especially in money transaction and money could cause problems

@@lasadmouissi8276 why unnecessarily bring up menstruation? What's the relevance?

Sahih al Bukhari 2658: The Prophet said, "Isn't the witness of a woman equal to half of that of a man?" The women said, "Yes." He said, "This is because of the deficiency of a woman's mind."

“Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. “Blessed are those who mourn, for they shall be comforted. “Blessed are the gentle, for they shall inherit the earth. “Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they shall be satisfied. “Blessed are the merciful, for they shall receive mercy. “Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God. Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God. (Matthew 5:1-9)

Yes indeed... The way to what? To who? To God... To paradise... To eternal life... Who's the Father? Did Jesus say no one comes to me except thru me???

Mo Juma do you wear shorts in front of her?

Good deeds wipe out bad deeds. Umar Ra said if u have sinned do not leave that place until u have done a good deed

What's wrong with wearing shorts? Iirc in the Quran it states women can show a bit of cleavage and extra skin to male relatives as well as children, while out in public that is highly discouraged if not prohibited.

bro it’s your sister

Bro it’s your sister yes she can

Rightly said.

The ethical messages are eternal, but the solutions to problems depend on the society and culture.

Islam is the religion of Tawhid, no one is able to divide Allah's order, all of Allah's verses are always relevant.

@@halilibrahim4501 Well, I can confidently say that the womens witness rule in finance and contracts Quran 2:282 is no longer relevant. I have worked in finance for 40 years and met many women in my field who are as sharp or sharper than many men.

Ohh man ... Revelation of Quranic verses was because of need e.g when there was a need of guidance in any matter Quranic verses were revealed .. And many of them were purely for that time e.g before a war the verses revealed were some how this e.g kill idol worshipers . but does not mean to kill all idol worshipers in the worl but just specific people

@@muhammadsafeernawaz7915 For sure and when Muhammed was horny for his son's wife, boom came a revelation...You guys are just another kettle of fish. You are so so captured in thought.

nabz the Quran is not time specific, but rather conditionally specific for certain circumstances. It just happen to be the case that back then women weren’t as savvy in this matters like today. Although this verse would still apply regardless for example in regions around the world that still lack a lot of education. Similarly goes for the war verses, they would still apply only under the same circumstances they initially were applied for. The conditions must be met to make any judgement and proceed in actions.

@@elhdafnishom499 so you just admitted the Quran isn't timeless since women are now more business savvy

Its timeless We not the same we have a different anatomy as a result women have the mensteration period which make here change physical and behavior and that is a repetetive cycle that's why u need another woman there so they comfort and help each other in case one or both going through ther period.u could check what physical and emotional changes women go through so it makes a lot of sence by

Ridiculous!

Ifkr!

No testing like Adam n eve

@@xtreme6018 huh?

It’s to do with loan contracts, business. The women at the time of the prophet (S.A.W) were educated and literate but not all of them, there were plenty of cases where women wouldn’t be literate and would be educated on the matter because not all places put emphasis on educating women. If one of these uneducated women wanted to create a loan contract, a second woman that was educated would be there.

At least it doesn't tell you to kill you own wife if she held the crotch of another man in a dispute...that's in the bible

@@fidelcatsro6948 now you have an argument that who is less worse than the other?

what else were you expecting? singing Indian folklore hymms about rama and bjp

The Hadith is more of an playful banter nothing else nothing more.

Libertarian Prince hhhhhhh I don’t take Hadiths as truth, anyone cann make up a story so that he has some benefit (in this case control women)

Hi mugeez are you Hindu?

@@ninjaman2254 Are you feeling alright?

@@ninjaman2254 this made me laugh ngl😂😂

@@ninjaman2254 what is your point. If Mother Aisha was 6 years old then what . when she got older she never complained about it . not to mention that at that time it was normal to get married with girls of that age ... Hmmm now lets get to sikhism baba guru nanak was a hindu, got intrested in islam about oneness of Allah , but didn't wanted to hurt the feelings of his hindu fellas, he so created a new relegion just based on some beliefs but stop .... Sikhism is not a relegion? Is it? Its just bundle of rules to follow . it have no ideology of ideal relegion . its scripture have no miracles to conform that its WAHE GURU'S word.

@@ninjaman2254 u came here for Blasphemy...why u came here??no one called u??I hv not go sikhism video for doing Negative comment??? Is this u learn from Sikhism????

Some rules r applied based on the circumstances at the time and some rules r always applied regardless of the era we live in like Praying. Quran teaches us to how to deal with things under certain circumstances and conditions to reach certain goals. we have to be dynamic in the way we think as social rules and conditions change in order to reach the same goal that God wants us to reach.

OK smart guy show me where in the bible it says women are credible witnesses when her own father or brother can nullify her testimony!

If I say the constitution of the United States says X, why would you require me to show you where the local municipality of a random time-and-place says anything to support my claim?

David - a real life situation will be as follows; This only applies in BUSINESS matters IF there is no written contract between 2 people. So if a businessman and a businesswoman have a written signed contract between them, there is no need for other witnesses. Both are equal. But if 1 of them is illiterate, then he needs witnesses to the sale, in case of disputes. if there is a dispute, then 1 of the witnesses will be called. It doesn't matter if it is the woman or the man. Only if the business people don't agree to this wo/man's testimony, will the other witnesses be called. If the business people are happy with the testimony from 1 man and 1 woman then there is NO NEED for the 2nd female, whose role is to remind/correct the other female IF she makes a mistake. But if there is still a dispute then the 2nd woman's testimony will be taken into account and she could overule the man's testimony or the other womans. Her word will be final. In other much more important matters, we always rely on the testimony of 1 woman alone such as a midwife or a female judge giving rulings or female Doctors / translators / advisors etc etc or MOST IMPORTANTLY, a female hadith scholar teaching men the religion of Islam and this testimony is the greatest of all, and it is perfectly OK for a woman to teach men. It is well known that biblical law does NOT allow women as witnesses and in cases where the husband accuses his wife, she is deemed guilty until proven innocent. In the Quran, her word is equal to the man's.

Rightly said.

Dr Shabbir Ally believes this hadith may be inauthentic even though its listed as sahih (he made a series on problematic hadiths)

@@maybefuture_youtuber2655 Yes off course it is. Haven't you noticed that every hadith that makes Muhammad look bad is a weak hadith?

@@quintuslentulus6183 probably because some of them contradict the Quran?

Isn't that what every scholar does? Choose specific passages and then make their own interpretation with some comparison to official sources? Please do enlighten me on how literal interpretation is possible.

We not the same we have a different anatomy as a result women have the mensteration period which make here change physical and behavior and that is a repetetive cycle that's why u need another woman there so they comfort and help each other in case one or both going through ther period.u could check what physical and emotional changes women go through so it makes a lot of sence by

Not at all!

some men are more compassionate than women

We're not supposed to believe all the hadiths, many are wrongly narrated. Theres even a Quran verse that warns against hadiths

Not at all.

May Allah guide you 🙏

How much did the church pay you to pose like this pastor?

fidel catsro it’s ok it is his choice. But I would like to hear his reasons to why he left Islam.

truth son that’s because ur mind cant comprehend.