Any plans to do a pcb with rgb for this?

@@coyotex850 we do have one - it's the wired ansi hotswap pcb

@@qwertykeys2119 when this keyboard will release

@@trilecebey 30th of August!

Hey, does it have a soft?

Polyfill is ideal if you have it to maintain the most amount of flex/movement in the board

thank you!

learned a trick or two from other keyboard reviewers ;)

Hey thanks! I have not tested same config for Envoy vs Neo so I don't have any thoughts on that yet specifically for the sound. I do think it will come down to what switches you use to test in both cases though. I think some switches will have no difference, but some might have noticeable difference.

​@@haurjie That is really interesting! I never knew that some switches sound different across different keyboards while some don't. I need to dig deeper into this topic!

There are no wrong answers

@@haurjie definitely agree!

Enthusiast boards are going to get a lot more cheaper, I got a fully built aluminum keyboard from China for 60$. Tri mode, hotswap, with switch and keycaps. If some manufacturers can do it then even enthusiasts brands can.

Tm680 tester68 and this are so value, but isn’t envoy 200 dollars

@@baconsaladking Just bought a prebuilt Ciidoo V65 v2 which was based on a group buy Final Key v65 case. Cost me $109 as it was on sale. Bought as a beater board for a new office job. Frankly its difficult to get much better at least for the price. It has poron foam on the inside, gasket mounted, poly carbonate plate, force break already applied to case , lubed switches, rgb , via support, wireless, and an aluminum case/knob. Gaskets are tuned for a decent amount of flex. All for $109. Switches and keycaps are actually not bad. Solid mid grade stuff. Sound profile is "marble" like with a silent style profile. I was looking to build something better and its like the custom keyboard market hasn't caught up or innovated enough as these chinese manafactures are throwing together keyboards that would have been "enthusiast" group buys in the hundreds of dollar range. As time goes on its only going to get better. Custom keyboard makers will have to innovate. My only complaint is the boring "vintage" aesthetic because the case is fairly minimalist and a spacebar that i had to stick some tape to help with ping.

thank you!

QK65 is not mine, belongs to a friend. And I am not a fan of the keycaps. I don't like weeb things but I was also too lazy to swap the keycaps for just a short time on the video XD

Neo65 had PE foam only, was mentioned in the video sound test portion (at the end of it when my discussion starts)

unfortunately those fall off easily as proven in our previous boards (qk65 kek)

​​@@qwertykeys2119that's unfortunate. I don't have one so was not aware of that. Maybe screws could have just been excluded and weight connected entirely via magnets. Just an idea. Is there a reason you used an FCC connector and cable vs a JST? I already see people nitpicking on this.

@@jgould30 saves space and more durable than JST - most importantly, this particular FPC works with both sides, you don't need to make sure that you need to insert with particular side facing up

Yes, it's mentioned in their documentation in their notion site. I believe this is the recommendation for all o-ring mounted boards so not unique. And it's awesome they're including clip ins for everyone. Honestly I have no issue with plate mounted stabs and kinda prefer them as long as they're tight. Easier to take out and service.

@@jgould30 it's not plate mounted tho - pcb mount

If you use the O-ring mount, then you can only use clip in stabs. Screw in stabs will work if you use the silicone gasket mount. I mentioned it in the video.

You can make any keyboard thocky, it just comes down to your switch selection and what mods you do to it. I personally didn't do any mods here and wanted to really show what the base sounded like. From there it's open to what people do to it. I don't want to showcase a fully modded keyboard, at least not in this video

@@haurjie thanks for replying faster than i expected suscribed and like, so in your opinion for someone new like me should i get this one is this good keyboard?

@@havoc2810 I don't know what keyboards youre coming from, but the first thing i start with is the layout of the keyboard. if you're not into 65% then don't get it, if you are or have never tried but are willing to try, then it would be a good one to jump into

it hasn't launched yet

@@haurjie Ah. Thank you. Sorry, I did not have time to watch the whole video. Release date/details?

i'll need to mention the release date on my description. getting that information right now and will update shortly.

​@@haurjiethanks bro. Give an update even if they say they got no dates yet. Thank you

@@kevincabarangao9002 They said late August

I couldn’t believe my eyes

I would send an email to QK and see if they can help you with that

Pretty sure any PVD coated weight is stainless steel underneath. It's PVD coated with a gold look. The brass and copper weights aren't PVD coated and have a different texture and look different then what's in this video.

the weight is ss

Different price points though let’s be real. This is ultra budget when it comes to group buys and the tkd is just budget.

​@@wolf-xf6hf but the tkd cycle7 beats $400 keyboards. for people that wanted a cheaper and better bakeneko, this is certainly still a step up in how budget it is while still being an improvement over the cannonkeys stuff.

I just don’t get why some keebs are so overpriced while others which are the same value of the overpriced ones cost so less imao xd

@@Shibanshokushacuz we are all getting scammed. Budget switches work just as fine as expensive switches 🤣

For sure the Cycle 7 for sure will change the hobby for sure. This will stop those $400 and up boards to compete with lower priced boards.

It comes with clip-in stabs and you'll have to use those if you use the O-ring mount. But generally speaking screw-in stabs that you'll have to purchase on your own are much better.

From another review, nopes - keycap fell out and ocb did not lol

@@YL_SC as I remember it's from nearLucid right lol 😂 hope QK can answer or having a solution for this.

​@@skygardenrikka9910solution? For what? It's not supposed to fall out... If you want to remove the assembly the recommended method in their docs is to remove 2 screws on weight, remove the weight, and push the PCB from the back. Pretty simple.

I don't think it's necessary since it friction fits, but they could have gone the mode envoy approach with 2 screws with an o-ring that goes through to the PCB attached to the case. But then again it's not really a problem in the case.

@@skygardenrikka9910 it won't fall out ... nearLucid threw his keycaps out but the pcb is still in there...

I mean, most people aren't going to be tearing it apart over and over. You can swap switches and keycaps without taking anything apart. You can even change the mount without disconnecting the cable. To remove the PCB/plate they recommend you remove the 2 screws in the weight, remove it, and push the assembly out from the bottom since it friction fits in tight. Since you are doing that anyway you can just disconnect the cable from the daughterboard. So disassembly is 2 screws and disconnect from daughter board. What's the issue here?

it hasn't launched yet

yes if you build it with oring without foam it'll sound pingy

ive seen alot more expensive boards with shittier sound and the owners are coping with "preference" so i guess this is fine

for what you get, yeah it really is.

Shiny surfaces tend to scratch easily so just be careful with it if you do

It's not released yet. Expected end of August

I would've done a plateless build test but I didn't get a solder PCB in my review sample. Hotswap isn't as stable and will have too much wobble

not really - those are gifts and costs about $2-3 if not less

@@qwertykeys2119 they are still no good, end up in a landfill and I would prefer a free pc plate, which should cost roughly the same.

hahahaha same thoughts

should see my legs ;)

Not to stir anything up, but rather just for humor. That's why at the beginning of the video I literally said the "starting price point for the lowest configuration". At about 1:40 I labeled the approximate cost of my configuration. What's fishy about it? They're facts and what I presented is fair info. Again just for humor lol, nothing serious, but if you go to a restaurant and sit down, order a plate of pasta, get the bill... do you tell the waitress "hey this is misleading and fishy because the pasta plate on the menu says $9.99, but you charged me tax, gratuity and a tip is expected? it's a bit annoying..." ??

@@haurjie It's more about what you said at the end, you said something like "just for 80 bucks", since literally nobody will order the plateless version. But yeah I get your point. At least you didn't put it in the title, and I'm sure some other reviewer will upload a "This budget king costs only 80$". It's more a dissatisfaction with this kind of barebones reviewing which happens in basically all of the reviws that are available on youtube

it does, mr. suit is my main keyboard. but mr. suit is also a different layout and also a completely different price point too, it's not a fair comparison lol

Don’t buy a stupid $120 Keybored all what I can say… meaningless

My main kb is Ms. jelly v2 lol , is worth when you get what you want or need be

Actually people buy Keycult because of their A-stock standards, quality finish and the brand name. It's worth it to some people. It's more of an art side that people pay for rather than the functionality.