BF didn't forget his mom's birthday. He deliberately didn't get anything. He didn't forget her Christmas present either. He just doesn't doesn't care to be bothered.
@codyjohnson6427Ай бұрын
Yea if you're not gonna get anything, then just say you aren't getting anything. Don't lie and say you actually had a gift when you didn't. I never give gifts nowadays just because I don't know what to get people and everyone is just fine with it, theyre family, I don't go around pretending that I gave them something just to say I gave them something
@sugarbeefАй бұрын
Yup, and mom is used to it. That's why she was so emotional about getting the vase, and so disappointed when it turned out he got her nothing again. She wouldn't have been disappointed if he hadn't gotten her hopes up.
@bigjalapeno7061Ай бұрын
Yea probably. Some people really do forget that stuff though. Not that that makes it ok
@lorilancaster5917Ай бұрын
And growing up, i bet the burden of picking out gifts was on the mom for the son and now he wanted to “bestow this honor” on OP.
@Michael.CrazedAlaskaАй бұрын
iirc Rslash also missed the part where the mom payed for her own Birthday dinner with the bf
@BennyLlamaАй бұрын
Years ago, my grandma made the mistake of saying how much she loved a gift. The gift was pig related for some reason. For the rest of her life, she received pig related gifts regularly. She told us years later that she didn't really like pigs, but the gifts were sweet, so she just went with it. She had pig paintings, statues, and even a small crystal pig I got her. Her house was full of pigs. 😂
@LilChuunosukeАй бұрын
This is a trap I fall into all the time. 😂 I get so many gifts for things I was only somewhat into a few years prior and just pretend I love it and hope people eventually stop.
@notevenlistening6072Ай бұрын
This happened with my mom and roosters 😅
@lancerevell5979Ай бұрын
This happened with my Mom and elephants. 😅
@hollytheanimalcrossingfanАй бұрын
I did this to my dad with fruit cake. Every year, after we learned he loved fruit cake, he'd get a fruit cake for Christmas. I forgot how long ago it was but he just told us one Christmas that he was kinda tired of fruit cake now.
@dealwithit9772Ай бұрын
My sister actually does like pigs. But she told us her husband says no more pigs. 😂 There is only so much pig paraphernalia that can fit in an apartment. So he wasn't being unreasonable.
@Clyde-S-WilcoxАй бұрын
Story 3: He STOLE the urn. Period. And now he's butthurt. He IS a bad son - a thief, a liar, and a victim blamer. Of course his mom was hurt - HE HURT HER. Glad he's an ex. (Lol "Dobby is free.")
@bigjalapeno7061Ай бұрын
Yea what the hell
@stevenandcarminabeedle9089Ай бұрын
And she was probably more hurt by the fact she thought her son got her something thoughtful and lovely for once. And found out he stole it and lied. I hope now they’re broken up, OP makes her another one anyway. They can still be friendly. F that dumba$$. She seemed sweet and OP was a better child to her than her own child was.
@wilhelminawill9495Ай бұрын
Story 3: It never fails to amuse me how people like that now-ex boyfriend think of themselves as a catch. "Save me the trouble of putting actual thought, let alone care, into my mother's gifts or yours and my relationship is OVER!" 😂 Despite what the common phrase states, good times are actually the best of threats.
@pompe221Ай бұрын
I'm sad for the ex-boyfriend's mom. OP said she's a sweet person. She just had a terrible son. I think it would be kind gesture if OP did make her a similar cat vase but obviously OP has no obligation to do that.
@RiveroftheWitherАй бұрын
Anyone who speaks about a baby like it's some hand me down toy, especially when they have set criteria like "must fit my religious views and can't have issues" has no business trying to raise a baby.
@dinlupus3196Ай бұрын
those who view children as their possessions, they just control freaks
@mariposa9506Ай бұрын
They didn't say religious issues, babies don't come pre religion
@RiveroftheWitherАй бұрын
@@mariposa9506 The entire premise of the story is literally how op should give up her baby due to Aunt and Cousins religious affiliation 😐
@vidal9747Ай бұрын
@@RiveroftheWitherIt had to fit her race. Not just religious views. And couldn't have any disabilities. It is worse.
@RiveroftheWitherАй бұрын
@@vidal9747 As I said to the other guy, the entire premise of this story is they want ops baby due to their different religious views. You people really need to listen to the stories.
@stefantsarev4442Ай бұрын
My mother is a Roman Catholic and my father is an atheist. Their fundamentally different beliefs and opinions did not affect me in a bad way whatsoever, because both are decent people who did their best to raise me right. Their different upbringings actually helped me develop the ability to see things from different points of view and have an open mind about most things in life.
@endernightblade1958Ай бұрын
and by this lady’s logic that would probably be the dark immoral path she meant
@autisticwitch7581Ай бұрын
@@endernightblade1958yeah. There's an good way to figure out if a church/religion is good or bad. Does it promote/not suppress critical thinking? If yes, it's likely good. Does it promote blind obedience/suppress critical thinking? If yes, it's definitely bad.
@EthinProbstАй бұрын
@@autisticwitch7581 You just described pretty much the majority of religions in your second categorization. Most religions I've seen do suppress critical thinking in one form or another. Maybe there are religions that don't suppress critical thinking, but I've yet to hear about one. Then again, I'm also incredibly cynical about religion by this point, and find myself more and more agreeing with atheism every day, so eh
@stefantsarev4442Ай бұрын
@@autisticwitch7581Well, both my parents were adamant that my religion doesn't determine who I am, it is my deeds that count, and I am ultimately responsible for my deeds. You cannot use religion as an excuse to be a monster.
@dinlupus3196Ай бұрын
yeah, but she sound like the type of person who would told you that you don't know what you're talking about because you mind is so oh-damage you can't possibly know what is good for you.. really those persons just want to feel justified for their actions , want to feel like they always on the right, they want so desperately believe that they are good people that they twist reality and refuse to see their bad actions resulting in them never changing and growing as persons and ended up as overgrown toddlers with no capacity for self-reflection. It would surprise (and disappoint) you the amount of narcissist that hide behind the religious curtain
@silverflight01Ай бұрын
Story 3: He could've just said that he forgot to get a present, but nope, he decided to use OP's gift to her mom for his mom, get mad when OP corrected, and then attempt to steal one of OP's other artwork. I honestly feel bad for the mom, her son absolutely sucks and she just learned about it
@kranberry3318Ай бұрын
I think she already knew
@anamazing2297Ай бұрын
A white lie I've told when I forgot to get someone a gift was that I ordered one online, and it just hasn't come in, yet. In reality, I placed the order right before, or right after... But they still get a gift later, and don't feel too forgotten! 😅
@WolfgangDoWАй бұрын
Story 3: "If the truth makes you look bad, it's not the truth's fault"
@bridgetmadden5716Ай бұрын
I want this on a shirt
@dracko158Ай бұрын
Story 1: The aunt literally told OP she can just have another baby later on like it's THAT easy to give birth. Giving birth is NOT easy, you have to endure pain, the inconveniences, sleepless nights and many more to have your child. These two are absolutely delusional if they thought random people are just gonna give them a baby just because they demand for it. Stand your ground, do not give in to their BS.
@theblackcatgirl7013Ай бұрын
You'd think as a mother she'd know this. Which probably means that she's even more selfish than at first glance.
@lorilancaster5917Ай бұрын
And I know the church won’t get involved and likely the cops won’t as well but I wonder if OP can get lawyers involved? There is correspondence that not only is OP being coerced into giving up her baby but other moms have been harassed by OPs cousin.
@hollytheanimalcrossingfanАй бұрын
Yeah and even if she does this, how do we know op will be able to have another? Also how they are acting is ironically against what the aunt's beliefs should be.
@Richard_NickersonАй бұрын
And coming from someone who's asking for a baby because she's literally incapable of "just having one" herself is legitimately insane.
@bettawitch4606Ай бұрын
You covered everything I could think of and more! :) Can you imagine??
@YourXavierАй бұрын
People who are so casual about asking someone else to give up a child ("you can just have another one", etc) only prove that they understand nothing about parenthood and should never be put in charge of children.
@vespernight423628 күн бұрын
Agreed, also I wouldn't be surprised to see that they'd blame the kid 'not really being hers' for any behavioral problems down the road. Kid is diagnosed with a disability later in life? "OH well now you can have the kid back, she's born wrong bc she's YOURS" The kid turns out gay? Blame OP and the husband's 'bad genes' or something. Also where they ever gonna plan to tell the kid? Or just lie and tell the kid she can never get a DNA test. Or what if the kid turns out to be a spitting image of ops husband? Op's family seem to see a child as a toy to have and idealized this future kid that probably will never turn out they way they want.
@lilwizerd9537Ай бұрын
I love how the last boyfriend was like “I never want to see you again! Call me!”
@jamiesuejefferyАй бұрын
When I was a child, a neighbor kid down the street was completely blind from birth. He was a couple of years older than me, so we never hung out. But his driveway had a fairly long slope of an entry way. I'll never forget the three weeks he tried, on his own, to learn how to ride a single (not double) bicycle. He had cuts, bruises and tenacity. It wasn't too long afterword that his parents bought a double bicycle and made one of his siblings ride in front and control the wheel.
@MrsShocoTacoАй бұрын
Story2 I believe Kay was actually harrassing Op and not trying to help at all, for whatever reason. Could be jealousy or just boredom but either way, she needed to know that her behaviour was unacceptable and Op did just just that by getting the cops involved in Kay's direction. *I'm betting Kay is calling using different names. *lol yep
@fga17Ай бұрын
It's possible that Kay wanted to be seen as the "Savior" of OP. When OP said the bruises came from her disability, good old Kay knew in her heart that something must be done, and SHE had to act!!! Kay to the rescue!
@bwpersona6718Ай бұрын
And even worse, say Kay was right and OP was being abused. How does repeatedly calling the cops going to help? She had no evidence except for bruises OP already explained away, never talked to OP like THE TEACHER SUGGESTED, and somehow, sending cops to OP's door is going to magically save OP from abuse?! She's in lalaland if she thinks it's that easy. If OP was being abused, OP could easily lie about the bruises and the cops wouldn't be able to do anything, because he refused to tell the truth! And if OP was being abused, wouldn't that just mean the abuser would get angrier at OP, since they'll automatically think OP called 911 or told someone about the abuse, AND ABUSE THEM HARDER?! But of course, she didn't think about that. And FYI, I'm pretty clumsy myself, and I have vision in both eyes. Not "I'm always covered in bruises" clumsy, but enough that I occasionally find bruises and little micro-cuts from bumping into furniture, door handles, and even wide-open doorways.
@RisingRevengeanceАй бұрын
I just think she was using OP to make herself look good. It's probably fairly obvious that OP is indeed blind on one eye so I find it hard to believe she genuinely thought she was helping him.
@backtoklondikeАй бұрын
@@bwpersona6718 I think Kays "logic" is that if she keep calling, the cops would sooner or later think OP is being forced to lie and to actually arrest their "abusers." Because nobody would call that much unless it wasn't that serious. My guess she has some sort of hero complex with her needing to "save" OP, especially since OP is disabled.
@kranberry3318Ай бұрын
@@bwpersona6718 Oh same lol When I was a kid, my grandmother would get me a Klutz of the Year award every year. As long as I’ve been walking and talking, she’ll always hear a thud from another room followed by a little voice calling out, “I’m okay!” I’m 27 now and it still hasn’t stopped lmao I have lost a lot of skin bit by bit to door handles. Many unidentified bruises over the years. The number of times I walk up to my fiancé and tell him all the stuff I’ve bumped into and he just says “oh honey…” haha yeah I’m a walking disaster 😂
@alanalirkaniАй бұрын
Story 2-Kay is going to get everything she deserves for not letting things be after the first call. She KNEW OP was saying she had a disability that causes the bruises, but she not only called the cops once (once might be legitimate concern that OP is lying) but multiple times, even after being told to stop and being moved classes for harassment. What was her goal though? What was she trying to achieve? She was told so many times that OP wasn't being abused and had a disability that caused the bruises, and that if she didn't stop, she'd get in trouble eventually. But she kept going until the police filed charges against Kay for harassment and misuse of police. Also, if OP WAS being abused in this case, Kay wouldn't have been helping. A lot of abusers get worse as the police fail to help, both sue to the power of not being arrested and out of revenge against the abused for "reporting them" even if it wasn't the abused party. And the others had a point. No abuse victim is going to willingly show the marks of abuse. It's seen as shameful and many victims believe they are at fault for being abused. I just don't understand what the end goal was here...
@pompe221Ай бұрын
Kay is going to jeopardize her own nursing career before she even takes the boards. If she has a criminal record she's going to find it difficult to get hired.
@spydersoup8447Ай бұрын
Feels more like Kay is actually an ableist and wanted a way to get of OP just because of his blind eye.
@vespernight423628 күн бұрын
@@spydersoup8447 I think she's abelist in a more patronizing and 'hero complex' way than a malicious intent. It seems like she wants to be ops savior, by 'helping' op escape from abuse. And instead of being able to admit she's wrong, she continued doubling down bc admitting she was wrong, would mean admitting to herself and friends the fact that she's been harassing and accusing a disabled student of lying about abuse, and surely she's just 'such a good person, who wants to HELP and SAVE people! Oh no she couldn't POSSIBLY be *wrong*' and it's come back to bite her. Hopefully she leaves op alone.
@spydersoup844727 күн бұрын
@@vespernight4236 That makes much more sense.
@spydersoup844720 сағат бұрын
@@vespernight4236 Though one thing I don't get, in the class, OP said that the bruises are from him being clumsy because of his blind eye, so why would she mistake that bit as if OP is hiding the fact that he's being abused?
@madramblingsofanauthor850Ай бұрын
Also, NEVER go to the Bishop for advice in marriage and relationships. Honestly, the Church is a bunch of hypocrites in some capacity depending on where you are. My sister was suffering in her marriage to her Ex and the Bishop told her to stay with her Ex and try to work it out, that they needed to work it out for the children. Y'all, wtf? Ex refused to work on himself, believing nothing was wrong. My sister left for her own sake and it was like she had the plague after. No one contacted her, people she thought were friends dropped her, and no one contacted her to see if she was okay. No, they all flocked to her Ex, lamenting how my sister had 'abandoned her kids and duty as a wife and mother'. They would rather she stay in a relationship that was detrimental to her health than have her leave so she could actually be a better mom. She's much happier now with her new boyfriend who treats her kindly and doesn't get mad at her over every little thing.
@danielbrant6740Ай бұрын
But what became of the kids? I dread to imagine if there was a daughter among them.
@evarinagarmguardian113Ай бұрын
SOOOO glad your sister is out of there! And yup, the situation sounds very mormon to me. A bunch of hypocrites the lot of them. But what would I know, I was a lazy learner lol!
@msmarvel9543Ай бұрын
Ugh.... It's stories like this that break my heart. Full disclosure, I am LDS. But stories like this break my heart. Abuse should NEVER be tolerated in our community and it makes me sick that people would suggest staying with an abuser. I agree that bishops are NOT qualified to help in cases of abuse and can often give horrible advice. If my kids or myself have issues of any sort I will be taking us to THERAPY not a bishop. I am angered sooo much hearing stories about judgemental horrific members who treat others like dirt. They are the exact opposite of how we are supposed to act. I hope your sister is thriving and happy in her new life and I am sooo relieved she got away from her abuser. I want to be horrified at her treatment, but unfortunately it's all too common in LDS communities. We need to do better.
@bigjalapeno7061Ай бұрын
Sure they can be bad but not all of them are bad
@Melvin_Master_of_RainbowsАй бұрын
My great-aunt felt overwhelmed with how many kids she had and wanted to stop having more and went to the church to talk about it. The man, who was either the pastor or bishop or something along those lines told her 'no, it was her duty' 🙄and she and her husband kept having more children. I think she had 6 or 7 total? If I recall correctly, she only wanted 1-2 or maybe 3 at most and was at about 4 when she asked. She was a kind and sweet woman who deserved happiness and did the best she could. I still feel so bad for her these many years after her passing.
@anakatsukifangirl2944Ай бұрын
How could OP's cousin think it's okay to harass *widows* for their children!?
@Clyde-S-WilcoxАй бұрын
Ahh, well, you see, she's trash.
@bigjalapeno7061Ай бұрын
Trying to lessen the pain of a loss with another loss
@ArcanineEspeonАй бұрын
@@bigjalapeno7061I feel like your pfp is oddly fitting for the situation and your comment.
@lorilancaster5917Ай бұрын
All she’s thinking about is wanting a baby in her married, religious household. She doesn’t care that she’s causing pain and turmoil in attempt to get what she wants. She only cares about having a baby.
@ScooterBond1970Ай бұрын
All she cares about is ME ME ME.
@Laz3rCat95Ай бұрын
Story 1: It's HER child coming out of HER body, if she wants to keep the child she can. Children should only be taken away from their birth moms if they're being abused or the birth mom gives the child away willingly. No one is entitled to someone else's kids just because they want them, even if they're family. Cousin could maybe adopt or find a surrogate who's willing to give her a child, but honestly it doesn't seem like she's fit to be a mother anyway. Story 2: Kay got what she deserved, she was harassing him and wasting police resources. Story 3: OP is definitely not the jerk in this situation, she made the art for her own mom and it was on her boyfriend to give a gift to his mom, not her. BF knew what he was doing, stealing it and trying to pass it off as his gift for his mom. He's definitely not a good son or a good BF, and I'd say good riddance to that relationship. Glad OP is no longer dating him.
@bigjalapeno7061Ай бұрын
Next they'll be going around with signs saying "Legalize forced adoption"
@lucascornelisse6896Ай бұрын
1st story - op should the aunt that God has made it perfectly clear who he wants to have a baby
@25ErixАй бұрын
Story 2: As someone who is constantly bruised up from my job, I feel for OP.
@TonttemanАй бұрын
Story 2: why didn't that Kay just talk with op, doing that would have been enough if she truly wanted to help op. But no, she went full Karen and called " the manager "
@spydersoup8447Ай бұрын
To me, it feels more like Kay is actually an ableist and had wanted a way to get rid of OP just because he has a blind eye.
@tippy2k2Ай бұрын
I really really really REALLY want to know the thought process of "Bruise Girl" cause that is just...baffling. I imagine it was some twisted badly thought out reasoning (maybe past abuse issues where a family member swore up and down they were just clumsy but were being abused?) but she had to have some reason for it...right?
@Clyde-S-WilcoxАй бұрын
Yeah. The reason is she thinks it's funny.
@vanguardangel6912Ай бұрын
@@Clyde-S-Wilcoxor savior/hero complex
@tippy2k2Ай бұрын
I can't imagine that's the reason @@Clyde-S-Wilcox. Maybe the first time but once she started to actually get in trouble, doing it for the lulz doesn't make sense
@octosquatch.Ай бұрын
She's probably just a moron who refuses to respect boundaries. In her mind she always knows what's happening and what's best.
@dudeorduuude5211Ай бұрын
@@vanguardangel6912this is the mentality of Gen-Z. I am not one bit surprised she was so attached to being a hero and didn't listen to reason.
@charminglady2011Ай бұрын
The 1st one, she can't adopt. That girl wouldn't pass any psychological exams because of her desperation.
@teslagod7221Ай бұрын
Thus, they are harrasing someone that would bypass that... 🙄🙄🙄
@Mr_Timi1Ай бұрын
You mean your boyfriend stole your moms gift and then tried blaming you for it.
@lorilancaster5917Ай бұрын
And the tried to steal something of OPs right in front of her after breaking up with her and demanding she make things right? No baby cakes. Time has long since come for you to be an adult and adult.
@Sanodi21Ай бұрын
Third story, it sounds like breaking up was a mercy for OP. Especially with how fast he got so aggressive over being busted like that. I do agree that chances are his mom caught on too and that might've been why OP was told about the vase
@lacko623Ай бұрын
I kinda do feel bad for OP, but mostly for her Ex's mom. She sounds like a sweetheart who's now stuck with a deadbeat ass of a son...
@smorphous8928Ай бұрын
Story 2: calling the police on a door has to be the most Kevin things I’ve ever seen. 😂
@teslagod7221Ай бұрын
You mean karen? 🤔🤔🤔
@alikat9498Ай бұрын
@@teslagod7221Kevina is the proper Reddit term 😂
@giraffegiraffe8702Ай бұрын
Baby story - the op should have gotten legal counsel from the start. I get the sense she somehow thought the bishop would be able to force the aunt and cousin to stop, but that’s not in the range of what clergy can do. He’s a spiritual advisor not a court of law.
@renfrien7009Ай бұрын
OPs aunt and sister are deeply entrenched in a strict religion. a spiritual leader CAN tell someone their behavior is not appropriate within their religion, and that does stop poor behavior in some people. unfortunately, mormonism prioritizes mormons and heavily penalizes those who leave. the OPs mistake was not assuming the bishop could resolve things without starting a permanent legal record: it was assuming her side could ever be taken as a non-member.
@evarinagarmguardian113Ай бұрын
@@renfrien7009Yup 👆 On the nose there.
@noahgibson4695Ай бұрын
I agree, a bishop is a spiritual leader and that's it. One interesting thing to note with Bishops in the Mormon church is that it's not a full time permanent position. The bishop is literally just some guy from the congregation called to serve in the position. Every few years, a new bishop is called and the previous one is released. So not only are they not marriage counselors, but they're actually just regular people. And as a regular person, there's not much he can do.
@lorilancaster5917Ай бұрын
And since OP and partner aren’t members of the church, he doesn’t care and we all the type of “counseling” he was suggesting.
@wmdkittyАй бұрын
@@renfrien7009 Not a religion, a CULT.
@mavisvioletaАй бұрын
Why people think babies are pets? Damn, not even pets are treated that way.
@lorilancaster5917Ай бұрын
In this story, I feel like cousin sees a baby more as an accessory that she must have in order to feel “complete” and not even a pet.
@AvrysatosАй бұрын
Easy bruising can be a sign of another medical condition or just genetic predisposition, like in OPs case or in my mother's case. Apparently my mother abuses herself according to Kay just by walking around since she's always got small bruises from hitting a doorknob, or having the dog step on her foot, or one time the dogs tail left a bruise on her leg the dog was wagging her tail so hard.
@bigjalapeno7061Ай бұрын
That sounds painful
@AvrysatosАй бұрын
@@bigjalapeno7061 honestly? it's not. she has chronic pain but it's not related to the bruising. people the bruise easily like that, the bruises are often very superficial and don't hurt much.
@barbaraday7662Ай бұрын
Story 1- I also had a terrible experience in the Mormon church. Bishop was of no help and they truly see women as second class citizens. The whole congregation was against me leaving my husband even though he was physically and verbally abusive to the point that he spent time in jail.
@wingracer1614Ай бұрын
Sure but what exactly was he supposed to do about it? He's not a judge, lawyer or law enforcement.
@eliassmith27Ай бұрын
If the Mormon church insist on being in charge and controlling the lives of their congregation to the point they chase them down years after they try to leave, then they can act like the so-called community leaders they claim to be and support their community by helping families, protecting their congregants and being available for counseling with an actual open ear. Y'know, like churches do historically? Instead, it appears they just do their best to keep women as second class citizens and tout their supremacy over other sects while raking in the donation money.
@danielbrant6740Ай бұрын
_Please_ tell me that you served the divorce papers while he was incarcerated.
@barbaraday7662Ай бұрын
@@wingracer1614 maybe not try to convince me to stay and be compassionate to him.
@evarinagarmguardian113Ай бұрын
@wingracer1614 Oh I don't know, call the police? Back her up? Have the congregation he has control over to help/support her while she tries to leave? Believe her? I don't know, be Christ-like? I get he's not a therapist, but being a good friend can, and often is, good enough for him to be to the members. I'm so sorry you had to go through that without the community that didn't really act like one Barbara. It is quite hypocritical when one of their own needs their help the most, they often either ignore it or throw "the blemish" out. If it wasn't obvious enough, I'm an exmo and have seen this bullshit play out with my own parents (though nowhere near as severe as your situation). I hope you're in a better place now./gen
@Fallenfromgrace1990Ай бұрын
2nd story: I am a huge clutz. I am covered in bruises from bumping into walls, doors, tables. I am far from being abused unless you consider being abused by objects 'suddenly' jumping out into my path. 😂
@bigjalapeno7061Ай бұрын
Plot twist: the house is haunted
@silverflight01Ай бұрын
Story 1: I understand that struggling with infertility is very hard, but it shouldn't make you harass random mothers for their baby. I think some therapy is in order, because I don't think any child would have a good home life with the cousin's current state
@DaBaseBallZАй бұрын
Story 3:He literally stole OP's vase because of his own failure as a son
@stuartwalker9597Ай бұрын
Story 3: “call me when you grow up” says the grown man acting like a toddler
@AltinatorXАй бұрын
I am also a “Mormon” or Latter-Day Saints as we like to call ourselves. We don’t claim OP’s aunt as one of us especially if what OP says is true. Whether they’re able to provide a better life for OP’s baby is a completely different matter compared to OP’s aunt constantly harassing her by trying to steal her baby in the name of religion! If I was in her aunt’s shoes, of course I would want OP’s baby to have a better life, but I would never force her to give her baby up to me ever! Also, that LDS Bishop is spineless if he refuses to chastise OP’s aunt for not allowing OP to do as she pleases for her own baby! It’s not OP’s aunt’s baby, it’s OP’s baby end of story!
@MurderkarpeАй бұрын
That second story. Man. The only things I can think of for why Kay was so adamant was either she was a victim of abuse as well, or she has a savior complex. There's a REASON she went off the wall with OP's accident-prone self. It still doesn't excuse it, but hopefully she got the help she clearly needed.
@wmdkittyАй бұрын
Like, maybe Kay grew up getting battered, and people saw the bruises, but did nothing, so she's on a personal crusade to "be the adult she needed"?
@taniserobnett177Ай бұрын
Story #3 - He could have paid OP to make a cat vase.
@danielbrant6740Ай бұрын
Good odds that the boyfriend was the type of cheapskate seen on r/ChoosingBeggars.
@DaBaseBallZАй бұрын
Story 2:She is in fact harassing you and wasting resources
@lancerevell5979Ай бұрын
Story one.... Awnty is an entitled fool. So, she thinks OP can just pop out another baby like an effing biscuit!? 😮 OP needs a restraining order against rabid Awnty and cousin. 🤨
@bigjalapeno7061Ай бұрын
Yea that's weird
@lorilancaster5917Ай бұрын
And hopefully the others harassed by OPs cousin would come forward with their complaints as well.
@aliciadodson2368Ай бұрын
As a practicing Mormon, I'm absolutely appalled by the first story! That's so messed up! We're not all like this! I promise!
@hafentoffen2Ай бұрын
Maybe kay has some weird saviour complex and can't get over the fact that OP doesn't actually need her help.
@FlamesAndShadowsАй бұрын
Cousin and her husband are not fairies who tricked OP out of her firstborn, and should not be treated as if she owns them as such. The kid is already cherished and loved, so much, go save some that hasn't been so lucky
@johntumahab323Ай бұрын
That first story does remind me of the strongest display of faith I've ever personally seen... The youth minister and his wife at a church I used to go to believed God had promised them that they would have a family between the two of them; i.e. natural birth as opposed to adoption or surrogates. So they got pregnant once...and it was stillborn after a couple months. They prayed again and got the same response. So they tried again...and it was stillborn after a couple months. More discouraged, they prayed yet again and still had the same response. On the third time, they got past the "danger phase" of the first two pregnancies, and finally felt their prayer was granted. They got everything ready, went through all the normal parents with new baby preparation, and got almost to the end of the seventh month...and a stillborn. Now, being a Christian myself, at that point I would have concluded that I wasn't really hearing the voice of God and just my own imagination, and I would have considered this time to give up. Especially since at this point they were emotionally devastated and hopeless; ESPECIALLY the wife. Now they have two kids and I thought I remembered them hearing they had a third along the way.
@redxlaser1562Ай бұрын
Story 1: As a Mormon myself, it’s very clear to me that OP actually meant to type Moron.
@hollytheanimalcrossingfanАй бұрын
That aunt is crazy. Also why are they talking to the bishop and not the cops? What is he supposed to do? And with the last one, it was the ex boyfriend's fault for taking the gift ment for someone else. He really is a terrible son and boyfriend.
@mxlly376Ай бұрын
Second had an update, kay continued to call, and possibly had other people call to report abuse as the cops mentioned multiple reports, cops stopped showing up at OP’s request and began noting names and numbers, Kay was charged with misuse of police resources and harassment and has been suspended because of the charges and when the charges go through she’ll be expelled. Kay’s mom went on a hunt trying to find OP to make them drop the charges, but the county/state is bringing charges, not OP. They made the school aware and are being escorted by security to class and everyone is on the lookout for Kay and family as they aren’t allowed anywhere near OP.
@phobiawitch835Ай бұрын
These videos are basically the only constant for me right now so I try to watch them when they drop. My town got flooded on Wednesday, and it destroyed the basement of my work. So on top of my job being closed for an estimated 3 weeks, but they cut power and water to the entire building, which includes my apartment. I’m staying with family right now, drugged up on allergy meds, trying to keep my sanity and not break down from all the stress. I’m hoping that something giid happens cuz after my week started with a ruined birthday, I am just exhausted and want to go home, but I can’t till they funally get the power and water on safely.
@Milk-ck1wvАй бұрын
Chrimas present: It would not have been the best thing to give a present intended for somebody else to someone it wasn't intended to be given to. I hope op tells the mom that her son is a terrible son and a liar. I'm happy they broke up because she needs a better boyfriend who WON'T steal her hard work.
@FlamesAndShadowsАй бұрын
Story 1: Why couldn't it be a 'it takes a village' situation when parents are both overbooked at their jobs at the same time, or someone just vibes with the idea of having adventure time with the kid for a few days giving them a break as a side effect?
@earlcielkittenhiveАй бұрын
Because they're literally trying to force OP to hand over their child. People like that do not want and will not compromise. They'd likely refuse to return the child, try to manipulate it into believing the bio parents are bad people, ECT.
@hyzmarca2737Ай бұрын
Story 2: Kay didn't think there was any abuse, she just didn't like OP. It happens. I've seen it before. I once rented a home from a nice old lady. Nice old lady went into a nursing home, and her evil cousin took over her finances, tricked nice old lady into signing a document giving her unlimited power and just mooched off of her without nice old lady's knowledge. Anyway, evil cousin rented the house next to me to nice family with two kids. And called CPS on them multiple times for no reason. And told them that I did it, which they didn't believe. She just liked hurting people and used abuse reports to do it, ironically while being an elder abuser herself. . She went to jail for stealing huge amounts of money from nice old lady.
@ismae-rienne4991Ай бұрын
I never showed my bruises from a classmate. They were already visible true, but I was too scared to name him. And no one questioned why my bruises went away after he left. But the point is, no one who is abused will draw attention to it in front of a group like that.
@jessicamurillo7914Ай бұрын
1st story: OP should inform the cops and other soon to be moms about her cousin and aunt. What if they steal someone else’s baby if they can’t get to OP
@reaperbrothers5487Ай бұрын
That’s the most common thing when someone is having a baby, but a family member can’t have or wants a different they want the other persons baby
@MrsShocoTacoАй бұрын
Story1 Op should get a restraining order
@nicholassanabria6493Ай бұрын
Morning everyone, talk about entitlement I do understand the infertility problems but you know can adopt right and I’m sorry for the cousin but what she’s doing isn’t the way to go
@alphawagon3571Ай бұрын
Story 1: As a member of this church, I would like to add some more information. While the aunt is correct that we believe a child should be raised in a strong, stable, and loving home and taught church doctrine. We absolutely cannot and should not force other families to do the same. Let alone try to take a child. That is way outside of the teachings of the church. Also, going to the Aunt's bishop was an interesting choice. Our bishops are unpaid, volunteers, and have very few options when it comes to discipline. Like all people, they are imperfect. They are also not police officers or therapists. When it comes to harrasment, it is much better to contact law enforcement or lawyers before going to a bishop.
@Kat-queenofnerdsАй бұрын
LDS has the odd crazy person just like any other religion or organised group. It's aggravating when the one bad apple tarnishes the reputation of the whole bunch 🤦♀️ Even christ wouldn't claim these people as his own with thier behaviour
@Milk-ck1wvАй бұрын
Just because you share some kind of blood DOES NOT MEAN you are allowed to just TAKE OR FEEL OWED A BABY!
@FlanylShirtmanАй бұрын
Dobby is free! LOL. Good on you, OP. Next get revenge by living a good life.
@theblackcatgirl7013Ай бұрын
The aunt wants the baby to go to a very religious family and saying she wants to "put the child first" when she's literally not putting the child first at all. She's putting her religion and her own daughter before what's best for the baby and trying to intimidate the pregnant lady, causing stress to the baby, and trying to force the mom into abandoning her child.
@SaturnRingBluesАй бұрын
For the first story, while I also have religious differences from the aunt and cousin, I don't like seeing potential parents suffering. There might be a simple reason the cousin is constantly losing the baby, and I want to bring this up because it caused me a few miscarriages before successfully having my daughter. Blood type incompatibility. If OP sees this, talk to your cousin about the possibility about blood type incompatibility. There's this shot they make you take twice during pregnancy to ensure your baby survives, called the RhoGAM shot. What could be happening is the baby's blood type could be different from the cousin's, and the cousin's body is treating the baby like a disease as a result. I'm not saying it's definite, but it's something for OP and the cousin to look into.
@jcorey333Ай бұрын
1st story: I'm a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and stories like this are so frustrating when dumb members do dumb things. All the members I know would think this is stupid and dumb.
@elisaatkins334Ай бұрын
THIS! I find it so frustrating that a few terrible people give us a bad name and people just end up lumping us into this category when most of us are just trying our best to love and serve others like Jesus did and don’t support or condone this behaviour at all
@InteriorDesignStudentАй бұрын
Anytime a post ends with something like, "I really love my boyfriend and want to work this out," I know the update will be a tale of how they broke up.
@Richard_NickersonАй бұрын
Christmas present: NTA, OP. Your BF, however, is a huge one. I have NO idea how you could possibly think this is your issue at all.
@privateeyety5735Ай бұрын
I had bruises all the time as a kid due to my hemophilia. My mom said she got a lot of looks in public because of my scattered bruises. She had to put a blanket over the child seat in grocery cart otherwise id be covered in bruises. Thankfully no one ever called police (to my knowledge)
@Clyde-S-WilcoxАй бұрын
Story 1: Mormon. Nuff said.
@evarinagarmguardian113Ай бұрын
Lol!
@BaldgoАй бұрын
Story 1: What would happen if the child hadn't fit the Aunt's tiny frame? What if the daughter ended up being a son or another non-genderspecific identity? What if OP's daughter was gay, under the bisexual umbrella, or aroace? What if by some strange bit of fate OP's daughter was another race (the partner's side has heritage from another race) and still was biological? What happens then? Is she just going to be thrown away? Sent back?
@nara_sayaАй бұрын
My arms and legs cover with cat scratches. I’m Asian with first shade of foundation, of course the scratches look very noticeable on me. Many people look uncomfortably at my arms 😂😂 but people with the cat clock that immediately
@JeneenRose-OsborneАй бұрын
As a visually impaired woman I can’t count the amount of bruises I have had over the years from bumping into things. I certainly am not abused just blind n sometimes clumsy. 🤣
@mafi9767Ай бұрын
Damn the 1st story shows how some ppl just don't pay attention in class. I'm a psych student and one week we had a class on OCD and how it's not just the stereotypes you see in media. A few days later me and me colleagues were making a powerpoint presentation and I told them to make sure to center the title and a girl asked me if I had OCD just cuz of that 🙄
@AtomBaconАй бұрын
The door story makes me think of an anecdote from a former employer. I worked at a mom and pop pizza shop and the owner lets call her Linda, was a fairly short woman. (I estimate maybe between 4'11-5'3?) Linda was very much a hard working, boots on the ground, lead by example type boss, and she could practically run the kitchen herself if needed. I bring up the fact that she's short because the pizza oven was very tall and fairly deep, and as a result of its size relative to her, she had her fair share of burns from her arm grazing the bottom edge when it was open. During a slow day one time she told me that she once had somebody who was a licensed counselor express concern about her "self harming" because they noticed several horizontal red lines of varying ages and degrees on her wrists and forearms.
@wmdkittyАй бұрын
S2: Bruises I'm a little torn. On the one hand, OP has a perfectly rational explanation for his injuries. On the other, every victim has told those exact lies -- I ran into a door, or whatever -- to cover for their abuser. (Source: Been there, done that, got the PTSD.) And Kay is doing, or _started out_ doing what we've all been taught the last twenty years; if you see something, SAY something, right? That said, she reported the first time, an investigation was done, and *that should have been the end of it.* Kay's duty was done. Deciding to make it her personal crusade to "save" OP was, well... she fk'd around, she found out.
@j.d.l._666Ай бұрын
Christmas-Story: Yeah.. This "boyfriend" is not worth keeping! Who doesn't buy their own mum a present and then STEAL the present thst their partner made or bought for THEIR mum?! That's dumb! He IS a BAD SON!
@bronch036 күн бұрын
I personally will be planning my wedding by telling vendors it’s “just a birthday party” 😂😂😂😂😂 It doesn’t change the service or items I’m requesting, I just know how “wedding” ups the price.
@ThoughEvolutionАй бұрын
As someone who is LDS, that is not how someone of our religion should ever act, nor are they encouraged to be like that. Although we may believe that children should be raised with good morals and where they understand how much God loves them, that doesn't mean that people aren't entitled to their own agency. And in fact, that is one of the advantages of our religion, is believing in people's free will.
@shadicusivxxradicus2253Ай бұрын
Story 3: I don't think the boyfriend has Op's back, he's still attached to his mommy. Op need to break up with him yesterday!
@UrrargАй бұрын
Story 3: He looks like a bad son because he IS a bad son. He's also a bad BF, he's stealing her things to give away to other people as presents. *edit* I'm glad she broke up with him in the end. That dude is just a user.
@crumman429927 күн бұрын
story 1: As an LDS “Mormon” I don’t accept her her daughter or her friends along with many other members harassing OP. In rexburg ID I single-handedly ended the Utah Mormon crap in my ward. THIS women and members would recieve my wrath. Also this Bishop really needs to refer the daughter and mother to LDS family services for some SERIOUS mental health counseling 80% of what op said was true. It’s free and would be helpful to them all.
@sophietierney-jf6elАй бұрын
last story you’re ex boyfriend is a jerk for forgetting to his mother a birthday present so he thought it was a good idea to steal a cat statue from your house and lied about were he got it from then he looked like a joker when his mother had to give it back and then comes back to take another statue for his mother now he is gone make sure you change your locks and put up cameras so he can’t steal anything else from your 🤬🤬😡🤨
@lostshadows768Ай бұрын
Last story: If you can live on your own, you should be smart enough to blame a lack of present on a shipping delay.
@unorthodoxchickАй бұрын
That fist story reminds me a little of something similar (but not as aggressive) that happened to me. I got pregnant with my oldest child when I was 17. I was raised mormon, so teenage pregnancy was a HUGE no-no. My Young Women's leader told me that her sister (who lived across the country) was struggling with fertility issues and that she had a "personal revelation" that I was supposed to give my baby to her sister. I told her that I felt in my heart of hearts that I was supposed to keep my baby. Even though she was my youth leader, she stopped talking to me after that. As if I wasn't worth her time because I didn't want to give my baby to a stranger who lived several states away.
@omega_berzerk5384Ай бұрын
Best thing to listen to after a bs day and a panic attack - some rslash
@blackfirephoenix3839Ай бұрын
I have a similar story to the bruise story. I have Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome, but since it's a more recently discovered condition, I wasn't diagnosed until I was 23. At the age of 9, I started having my joints pop out of place and excessive bruising from the smallest things, like lightly bumping into a table or a cat putting too much weight on one paw while in my lap. I started seeing a chiropractor, and after a year of readjustments every 3 or 4 weeks, she asked me if my dad was physically abusing me. Now, my dad can be quite a jerk, who speaks his mind (and not in a good way), so I understand why she asked, but I was extremely offended and pissed off that she assumed that; as a child, my dad never treated me poorly, quite the opposite actually. I firmly told her no, that my dad would never hit me, but she would not drop it. Her asking nicely wasn't what really upset me though. She actually blocked the door and told me that I couldn't leave until I "told her the truth". After several minutes of trying to convince her, and her practically yelling at me, demanding that I confess, I finally was so angry and scared of her, that I pushed past her HARD, and went out to my dad crying. I told him what she was accusing him of and how I had to force my way out of the room, and he confronted her, only for her to say that I was lying, that she hadn't accused him of that or tried to keep me from leaving. He told her that he hadn't raised a liar, and that we would not be coming back (to be clear, my dad had been going to her for over 12 years at that point). A few days later, my dad gets a call about the reported "abuse", and I was forced to be checked over for any "clear signs of abuse", and I had to talk with a therapist. The doctor ultimately ruled that I was not being abused, that I had early on-set arthritis and my bruises did not look like they came from abuse, but rather "from normal child clumsiness", which is what I genuinely thought it was. Fast forward to after I got diagnosed with EDS as an adult. I made a point to go to her office to tell her to her face about my diagnosis, and to tell her how I didn't appreciate how she had trapped my 10 year old self in the room and harassed me over and over to "confess", then called social services. That she could have ruined both mine and my parent's lives, and if she had suspected abuse, there were much better ways she could have handled that, instead of scaring the living hell out of me and refusing to let me leave. She just stood there, silent and dumbfounded, and I left.
@d.phantomfan1216Ай бұрын
Last story: wow what a terrible son, bf, and probably ex. He stole from you that was meant for your mom to give to his mom so he would look like a decent son for once. Then when he got caught, tried to blame you to save his own ass and actually thought he could guilt trip you into taking the blame and even try to steal your stuff it bluff about breaking up. He’s mad because hedoesn’t give free Xbox, and has to actually make an effort for his mother. All you women deserve so much better than this inconsiderate jerk that knows nothing but complaining blame shifting.
@codiehagerdon2000Ай бұрын
(Story 1) I’m a Mormon and I feel bad for the bishop because he’s just a regular person who is asked to volunteer as the bishop. So he can’t do much as OP is wanting him to do. But OP got some crazy family members.
@reddiamond6524Ай бұрын
All of these "give me your baby" stories are just depressing to me. I was adopted at birth and i don't know where id be if my parents were the type to harrass family members into giving up their kids. My bio parents couldn't care for me and willingly put me up for adoption, my parents didn't even know them. So yeah, i hate it when people are picky with children and don't see them as humans in need of a home.
@DarkEinherjarАй бұрын
I thought morality and values included not stealing someone else's baby... but obviously, most self-proclaimed "religious" people are the "rules for thee, not for me" type of hypocrites who just weaponize religion to get what they want.
@bigjalapeno7061Ай бұрын
Yea they make real religious people look bad and they're all you hear about pretty much
@condorboss3339Ай бұрын
Story 1: Never go to a church related counsellor on family matters. They are always going to view the situation through the lens of their faith. In OP's case, the fact she is married to a non-Mormon means the Bishop will automatically see her as unfit.
@j.d.l._666Ай бұрын
Story #1: for all those dense (in sane) freaky "mothers" who want babys: there is sth called LEGAL ADOPTION and it's available so almost everyone! All you have to do is get in contact with CPS or one of the proper channels like orphanages and such! Stop putting pressure in people in your vicinity and HELP the kids that NEED HELP!
@jlconnors7872Ай бұрын
story 3: If he treats his mother like that, imagine how he'll treat you down the road. This is just a glimpse of the future of being with someone who could care less about others.
@DeadBirdsLoveabyesАй бұрын
My mom bruises very easily, so do my younger brother and myself. When I was a toddler we moved from a small apartment into the house my brothers and I would grow up in. If you have every moved, you’ll know that you get bumped around a bit moving furniture and other things. My mom got pretty bruised up moving into the house. One day she got pulled aside at work by a coworker, who was concerned about her wellbeing, thinking my mom was being abused by my dad. The coworker gave her a bunch of information on women shelters and other resources for battered women. My mom had to explain that she wasn’t being abused. She just got bruised moving into the new house, that she was fine, and my dad would never hurt her. The coworker was very skeptical. My parents have been married for 40 years now. I can only think of one time I’ve heard my parents fight, And it was because of the neighbors. As I said I bruise easily too. I was a hyper active kid. With little to no fear. I also have a very high pain tolerance. So I’d climb a tree, fall out of the tree taking out all the branches on my way down. Then get back up and climb the tree again. I was always bruised and cut up because I was unstoppable! Needless to say my grade school teachers noticed that I always looked like I got into a fight. One day a group of them were discussing if they should call CPS on my parents thinking I was being abused. Our next door neighbor was a teacher at the school and over heard the conversation. She stopped and asked “are you taking about Jack MacDonald?” After to group said they were talking about me. My neighbor assured them I wasn’t being abused. I was just crazy hyper and that I was always crashing into things, falling out of tree. And my parents were great people that never hurt my brothers or me. I still bruise easily, but I’ve calm down quite a bit.
@MeowMeow-sy2miАй бұрын
It pisses me off when people make false reports to the cops like story 2. Glad she got charged
@BeanManoloАй бұрын
First story: yeah OP's aunt and cousin being part of the Mormon church explains a lot. Their "counseling" is made entirely by either other Church members, or by 'professionals' the Church has a list of recommendations for, because they always side with the Church's leadership or their beliefs instead of giving proper help; The Seven Passengers/Ruby Franke situation showed that very well: the "specialist" that Ruby was taking advice from and supporting, Jodi Hildebrandt, was on the Mormon Church list of support professionals even after all the complaints and controversies prior to her recent arrest, and another professional who was on that list said she was removed from it for not following the Church's views on sexuality (like being gay being a sin); It's also a pretty big case of financial abuse on their side aswell, since they pay for professional help only if the member goes to one of the professionals in the list, so yeah no wonder counseling didn't help OP's cousin at all, and I feel it's better if she cuts contact with her own mother and get actual help, for not only OP and her child's safety and wellbeing, but for her own aswell.
@darkxemjas2910Ай бұрын
Story 2: Well, that just became a thing. Someone's calling the cops for OP's sake because she's keeps getting bruises. But the attacker is a random door.
@savvystarfire6667Ай бұрын
1st story - cousin doesn't want the baby to have 'any issues' as though being raised by said cousin and her crazy religious mother won't give them a tone of issues
@MsTemptationАй бұрын
The last story: I feel so sorry for the mom of op’s ex because she didn’t raise her son to be a tool. The fact that he expected op to always have an appropriate gift for his mom since he just buys her crap gifts is already very telling to op about his character in general. I’m happy that op finally decided to pay attention to the red flags but she was also just too needy for a man who sucked as a person in general. So no she’s no victim. She volunteered to be a doormat because she loved him more than he wanted her.
@stevens4957Ай бұрын
Every child deserves a loving home. Not every person deserves a child.
@Muser4LifeАй бұрын
10:32 a person can be charged with a false report if they repeatedly misuse 911 all the time
@suzyboyleanderson6945Ай бұрын
My friends daughter slipped and fell on the ice in front of a small town business in their hometown. The daughter broke her arm, once at the hospital the girl and the mom were crying and my friend's husband was pissed. The nurse decided to call the cops on my friends husband for child abuse and assault cause he looked pissed enough to hurt his daughter. They hadn't even gone in to see a nurse or a doctor yet. When my friend and her husband were waiting in the room for their daughter to get back from getting X-rays a cop and a nurse came into the room to get to the bottom of the broken arm. That doctor was so pissed at this nurse and the doctor knew my friend and her family since their daughters were friends and were in the same grade at the same school and the doctors wife had falling in front of the same store two days earlier. This store has always been awful about putting ice melt on their sidewalks during winter and lots of people get hurt there each winter. The nurse was arrested for making a false police report and I think she was even fired from the hospital she worked at. She told the police she had talked to my friends daughter and she said her father had broken her arm, when in fact she never once spoken to him.
@emilieloveskiwiАй бұрын
My girlfriend is blind in one eye. It's been that way since she was a young child. She doesn't remember a time when she had two working eyes. Yet, she isn't constantly bumping into anything. And she's never mentioned anything like that to me. Did the OP of the second story go blind in one eye later in life? Is that the difference?
@SusanaOSantosАй бұрын
6:22 calling cops I used to practice kobudo which is a martial art with cold weapons when I was young (20 something, not a child). Once a woman asked me if I needed helped because she thought it was ny boyfriend I still remember her laught when I told her I was learning to use nunchaku.
@rebeccajesse4604Ай бұрын
Ooof nunchaku can bruise you like no one’s business! I did martial arts as a a kid/teen and I was covered in bruises because my training partners were my friends and we always went hard with each other. My arms were mottled. Luckily I always wore t-shirts and no one ever suspected anything about abuse.
@somewizardguy1495Ай бұрын
I think that Kay might’ve ‘liked’ OP and wanted to “save” them like a person helping a beat-up abandoned puppy. That or just a straight-up hero complex.