in a world where cameras can record anyone at anytime, one might think that people would smarten up.

@@devlynandlink You think right. My older cousin was driving at night And she came up behind a car. Stopped well behind it. That car went in reverse and slammed into her car. And a group of large men got out of the car and started screaming at her for rear-ending them. She was like I ain't getting none of the car. We're calling the cops. So she called the cops and told them that she was being threatened so they showed up really fast. And yes she was definitely being threatening. She let them go on with their complete made-up story. And how their backs are sore and their necks are sore and they're so traumatized that she'd hit them like that. Oh, and they claim that she was calling them racial slurs for Arabic people. Some of which she had never ever heard. Then when the cops came to take her statement she's like oh do you want to see my dash cams that record audio and video. And they went pale and tried to leave the scene of the accident. And her insurance company called her about 2 weeks later and told them that the same group of men had five similar scams running on five different people's insurance. All of them claiming that they had been stopped at a red light and these people backed into them claiming that they were rear-ended. The cops told her that it's a common scam in the last couple years In the city that she lives in. And they always Target single women in cars at night because they think they can intimidate them. The cop said up until about 4 or 5 years ago. This was unheard of in our city and now all the sudden it's happening constantly. So it's very important. My car has front back and internal. So somebody can't claim. I'm on my phone.

Idk, the first story sounds made up tbh. Not to take away from your point tho, dashcam is always useful to have.

@@N0xiety could definitely be made up. And you're right, you still need a dash cam. Honestly the fact that this story is made up and people would lie about such things is good. Reason why you need a dash cam.

That’s why I always tell my mother to get a dashcam and one for the back of her car cause she got rear-ended twice, one she got money from the other driver to fix it, the other got nothing and the old AH drove home happy. But, even tho I love my mother very, very much and would do what I can for her. She’s the most annoying, stubborn B- in my family. She’ll get upset if you buy her something she wants, but unable to get herself.

Also, it's pretty difficult to file while he's gone. He literally can't even sign the paper or easily meet his lawyer.

All legal processes get paused while deployed. Divorces, lawsuits, unserved warrants, etc. The default way a child born during deployment is handled is: the spouse is allowed to use tricare to cover medical expenses; a parent is expected to enroll the child in DEERS; the soldier is expected to provide for both the spouse and the child. If the soldier suspects cheating, they can file paperwork to have the divorce process begin. This includes stripping the spouse of access to military facilities, insurance (tricare), and non-BAH pay. If the child was born at a military medical facility or the soldiers name was put on the birth certificate, this is where an investigation into parentage begins. If that investigation shows that it is possible the soldier is the parent of the child, blood is drawn for genetic comparison. If the child is the soldier's, they keep their benefits. If the child is not the soldier's, they are removed from DEERS, and their benefits end. Edit: I keep saying "soldier" out of habit (U.S. Army, 20 years), but the process is pretty universal for sailors, Marines, coasties, airmen, and guardians (collectively "troopers") alike.

ok but why is no one asking how he cloned her phone?

@@christopherzapata4970 Sailors, Marines, and airmen aren't "troopers". The correct term is "military member". --YNCS(SS), USN (Ret)

@peterhobson3262 As of OEF/OIF, joint forces groups are referred to as troopers. I had the misfortune of being attached to a Cav unit when it was announced. -68W24/13B24, USA (Ret)

Tsk tsk tsk. His misogyny is showing. ... ... ... (/s obviously)

She was HR not IT 😂

Nothing like one upping someone with information that a innocent person wouldn't have.

I saw a judge Judy clip of a pair of thieving dummies who did something very similar. It was one of the few times JJ genuinely laughed (and obviously ruled against them) brilliant!

Mate you're everywhere

Ooh...Busted!!

Saying yes or no to that question still leaves you in jail

The only problem is, I think you need access to the phone to "clone" it. I think even installing malware that would allow him to see her SMS messages would require her to open an attachment to a message he sent her.

​@@buggsy5cloud backups maybe?

Classic idiots.

That's my favorite Judge Judy episode. 😂

What was even better with that episode is that Dumb and Dumber (as Judge Judy called them) still had no clue that they had incriminated themselves after she gave her verdict!

Exactly

Yes. Shout it to the audience in the back! Always. Press. Charges!

When he said the command knows what's going on I think he means he informed the command of the affair and presented him with the proof of her infidelity and since they didn't have and children together then he has 0 obligations to her even though they still are legally married he cannot be forced to help her and be forced to not be near her to actually initiate a divorce when there's no children involved

@@demarcusbennett6906yes but as long as they’re legally married he has to provide at least a roof (he did; she chose not to live there), basics (he did; she spent it on purses) so he fulfilled his obligations until he was able to divorce her. His leadership couldn’t intervene because it was a civil matter, but they could advise him of all that and make sure he was ok, which sounds like they did.

can the military clone your spouse's phone without the permission tho? how did he do that?

Of course the wife did not say anything about cheating. And the military will step in an DIRECT the servicemember to at a minimum send the the basic allowance for housing. Anything other than that is considered to be civilian jurisdiction.

Yep, exactly. I knew guys in the navy this happened to. That was 20 years ago, so even harder to prove.

That and some states (I know Texas for sure) have laws where if you’re married, it doesn’t matter who you’re pregnant by, that baby is the married partners.

​@@morgangriswoldyoung that's mental to think about, who the hell came up with that one?

​@@Yumao420 I don't know which idiot lawmaker came up with it, but I know a woman who's ex-husband used it to get revenge on her and a couple other people. The husband was abusive, my friend left him and was trying to get a divorce. She'd been separated from him for a couple years and he was dragging everything out when she started dating this other guy. The other guy knew everything, so this wasn't a shock. (For the record, I knew the husband and him being an abusive a-hole is totally not surprising.) Well, she got pregnant by the bf and they were going to let another friend, who couldn't have kids of her own adopt her. Well ex-husband used the fact that the state considers him the father (in spite of paternity tests) to drag the divorce out longer and delay the adoption for a year. Finally my friend's lawyer convinced the judge to push the divorce and adoption through because they finally got evidence of him gloating about his intentions. This was 20+ years ago. The baby is all grown up and graduated from university. Yes, realizing how long ago this all happened makes me feel old.

​@@Yumao420Texas....

I would think that since he was deployed and took actions to separate their finances and limit contact with her because of the infidelity, he could make the argument that they were separated. I think he’d still have to get a paternity test and go to court to have a judge rule it’s not his kid. An old coworker of my ex had a kid with his live in gf whose divorce wasn’t final. He gad to go to court to have the judge order his baby was his own instead of her ex’s.

Also, technology was not that advanced if it had just been a little bit further in the past, so OP would have never found out in time to save himself. He literally would have come home to a strangers child and his cheating wife with his bank account being empty. At least that is what I think, because without modern tech it was way wasier to hide stuff like that. Thank goodness OP lices in the modern era and was able to avoid that.

It's sometimes based on birth certificate so he's not there for the birth He probably wouldn't be added as the father of the child.( I am pretty sure that it can be changed in deforce preceding with the birth certificate just being a default)

​@@unknowngamer37415you have no idea how the state of Virginia works.

@@kevinpotts123 you are, correct non of the examples I was drawing from where from Virginia.

A fellow man of extremely good tastes, I see.

I think of that every time I hear the words "I need some space".

Agreed 😂 like what was she expecting

No... He was a US soldier... They're only paid to be thrown away. And if they happen to survive deployment, they'll get abused until they die on the streets with no one remembering them. The US legal system doesn't respect their soldiers even a little bit. You can be deployed in an active war zone for 1 year, get home to your wife just having given birth, and be legally considered the father and responsible for that child...

TV Tropes listed that infidelity quote in their "Rewarded As A Traitor Deserves" page.

i think it comes from a "but i'm special" narssistic point of view, where these people do know about that statistic, but they just assume that they are different, that such a thing would never happen to them. its the same mindset that has people out here voting away their rights and protections because they think that the consequences will never touch them. its the classic "person who voted for leopards eating people's face party, crying 'but i didn't think the leopard would eat MY face!'" its "person dating a cheater crying 'but i didn't think they'd cheat on ME!'"

Jodied??

​@bonefetcherbrimley7740 we call a guy who sleeps with the wife of a deployed man a 'Jody'.

This was my immediate thought as well. Tale as old as time.

Let me know what state you live in, so I never live there

i think you have like a month or so to challenge that ruling, but after that you are on the hook.

Ridiculous

That story feels incredibly fake anyway.

@@cynister7384 Most of the malicious compliance / pro revenge ones do. "I work at the Flibflab company making flubdubs. In comes this new hotshot manager and tells me I'm fired. Jokes on them, I'm the only one who knows how to configure the grobblenobber to integrate with the flubdubs. They called me back at 10,000X my normal salary, the manager was banished back to the ninth circle of Hell, and my wife totally came back and said it was all her fault we broke up."

idk, seems like unnecessary stress to take on. legal proceedings are tiring

"And now that he knows where I live he can harass me at his leisure and probably worse. Nah, it's all good."

That is the worst in those stories, ... the real victim is the kid. Growing up with a mother like that, will be .... hard. No support unless she remarries and well, pregnant/w kid is not exactly great for the dating game. And the wife beater does not exactly sound like a gentlemen member of society, going to go all dad mode and taking care of the kid. Probably one of those that will vanish after the kid is born. Moral of the story, ... 4 lives ruined. OP, The ex-wife, the cheater beater, and the kid. All because two of the 4 where unable to have a backbone. I really do not understand people and the need to cheat.

Same! I'm in a relationship with a guy in the military and he's currently in another country and he knows I'm not going to cheat. As I tell him all the time "I don't like anyone, I barely like you sometimes, I go to work and I come home, I don't wanna deal with the world's stupidity most of the time". He knows the only thing I'd ever cheat on him with is a bag of chips and a movie

@@thekathrynwest yeah when I have to order groceries I just pay the extra for the people to drop it off, I just open the door and say go ahead and just throw it in I’ll pick it up later And that’s what usually happens Only time I really go out is me having to drive my car so it can still run when I need it to, and that’s like once or twice a month

@@gggamergirl2191 I do the curbside pickup for groceries. I also have PTSD so going inside the grocery store may as well be actual torture to me.

Get a cat. They're less maintenance.

So relatable 😂I never saw the point in going out if I didn't have to and when I do it's I ride my bike through the forest or smth. I mostly stay indoors and play games, tinker on pc parts or do chores like cleaning up the house, taking care of garbage and so on.

Or he's too poor to own/operate a car because he spends all his money on beer...

Surprised he wasn't driving a lawnmower (aka a "DUI Special")

Yeah, that's entrapment. Happened to a guy I knew and it ruined his life. Because he was drunk going to his buddy's car from the bar, he lost his cool and got extra charges tacked on for knocking the officer's gun off his holster onto the ground. The stay in jail cost him his job and thus health insurance, and he died a few months later after he burst a vein in his throat and went home from the hospital because he couldn't afford the health care and didn't want to impose that on his family. He was a great guy, I wish he had told us more of what he was going through at the time.

@@RWAsur remember, the justice system hates you, the citzen.

@@lordshaxx4693 Yes.

ACAB

Does she have a contract? I missed that. In the USA, virtually no non-union, non-exec level workers have contracts.

she fed into the propaganda that if you work hard enough your job will reward you

@@sourisvoleur4854 ha? HOW do you get payed then? Don't you sign any contracts?! Never? Like "you work this and that hours for this and that pay. And your job title is this and that" You don't have that?!

They definitely would have fired her, considering they fired other women who worked there for dumb reasons as ops friend says they would have found some dumb reason to fire her.

@@fandomtrash7505 as the story tells, they did fire her in the end anyways. But that's not the point. Why would she do the work knowing, she won't earn anything from it? She should have just searched for a new job as soon as they fired the old manager and quit as soon as they implemented the new manager and denying her any raise for what she did while stepping in and doing the managers work.

Well another thing is that there is no infidelity allowed cheating at all can cause her to lose all support from the military and he can divorce her without any worries what soever however being cheated on and proving it could cause his chain of command in having his back in not taking care of her at all

Now it makes more sense, because it sounded insane that OP needed to provide for a cheater out of his own pocket. The fact that the Military was paying for it, ... well, if they want to do that, its their money.

All that said, yes technically he would have to continue providing for her until the divorce, until he cleared it with his command, which he did

@@silly_stars i would asume that op was refering to it beeing realy hard to do what he did to confirm the cheating and with having that confirmed i asume he would not get in a massive amount of trouble aftherward.

How could you get in trouble the military has absolutely no control over you if you're not enlisted nor an officer. I'd like to see specifically the proof otherwise you're full of crap

​@@Codemeister1105 your getting money from the government for following certain policies (married, kids, etc.) by you breaking away from that and still getting money your technically stealing the money.

@@Codemeister1105 He's deployed dude, that means he's enlisted. Pay attention.

Agreed, several parts of the story just sound really fishy, including how the drunk somehow knew where OP lived. Unless they already knew OP there's no way they could have tracked them down.

yeah it sounds very fake, but the message that you should get a dashcam is very real. also press charges when you can and especially do so if the crazy knows where you live.

That means she's helping another guy find that thing that's so hard for guys to find.

I used to live in California and I never heard of that being a law. I was also never told that in my driver's ed clas or by the instructor. That must be a new law.

@@amalieshelby It isn’t new, just not made aware of, and not told in defensive driving classes. That original article was from about 10 years ago. If it wasn’t for my training to read regulations because of my former job, it would have been hard to find or realize. Just like before the changes to the stop sign laws and bicycles. The bicycles claimed that they weren’t vehicles, but the definition of vehicle for that regulation included bicycles and probably still does. If you have a question about what is covered in a regulation go to the definition section which is forward of the text of the regulation.

Same can be said the other way too.

I was kinda hoping that all women would quit working there just to see what would actually happen to the business. Sexist or not I'm just curious to knowing what would happen if all employees quit. Would the men be begging them to come back? Or would the business fail? Or would they beg begging for all the information on what to do with the system?

@@amalieshelby don’t know why they didn’t honestly must be in a country that is more sexist to women in the workplace. Of course that can be anywhere but the US and EU have laws for that

​@NovaG0 No, actually. "WoMeN dO iT tOo!" doesn't work here. Pay inequality is one of the primary issues women face in the economy. If you're pissed about the "Woke Agenda", it's probably because you contribute to the problems.

@@MrCrunchytime ....lol um...woman can do that to men and other women. I fully believe the equal rights and I know that there are women out there who get paid more than what my dad does working for the government. So that's not 100% true. Plus most women want the pay not the real work like men in the story.

Sounds like OP would like to know the answer to that as well.

While those are all good points, and the story definitely feels fake, there is one thing I need to point out: > "You'd think that the cops would know that." Cops aren't required to _actually know_ what laws they are enforcing. If they _think_ a law has been broken, that is enough to make an arrest, and it's up to your lawyer (or judge if it gets to that point) to tell them their being idiots and to let you go. And that's not to say that they're doing anything wrong, or that they're incompetent, or malicious, just that: knowing all the laws they may or may not be expected to enforce isn't their job.

License plate search would accomplish both of those.

@@RevokFarthis While that’s true, the public intoxication laws actually make it illegal to make it a crime in Illinois, which a lot of people know about (even if they’re not police officers). Also, in this case multiple officers seemed to have agreed on an imaginary percentage limit for an imaginary crime. And then they went back from their cars to tell OP about the breathalyzer result, which is also a bit uncommon.

@@thisistherevolt A license plate search means that you look up where someone lives. That’s a lot different from following someone home, which was the case in this story.

The military member can waive the proceedings under the Soldier Sailor Relief Act. So they can get divorced while overseas, but they cannot be forced to get divorced while overseas.

Unfortunately yes. It’s very common. To the point where there’s a custom of sending a photo around the base of the cheater, to “make them famous.” FYI, the pictures are nsfw.

Unfortunately. Though very few actually stay loyal. My mom has so many stories of when my dad was deployed and she witnessed many of the groups wives cheating and she would literally call them out on it infront of the husband (usually she would talk to them individually and have my dad talk to the husband's before saying anything in their faces. But anyways, my mom couldn't stand those women. She only associated with the loyal wives and was cautious with new wives.

Unfortunately, soldiers are deployed for long periods of time and sometimes their partners cheat. Not everyone behaves like that, but it’s common. It’s also very frowned upon and can ruin your life and career. For the military spouse who commits infidelity, their actions can have ramifications for their military career. Adultery is viewed as a breach of the military’s core values, and it can affect their reputation, credibility, and standing within the military community. Depending on the circumstances and the military branch’s policies, disciplinary actions can impact their career advancement and opportunities for promotion. You can also be thrown off base. (Wikipedia)✌🏽

And let's not forget who the biggest victim in this is, the affair child. That kid's childhood is gonna be _rough._

That clause is still there, just not always enforced