...somehow your comment is the one that made it click in my head that was a masturbation joke. I was sitting there like "What? One handed?? Something to do with multi hand spider monster or??? What does that have to do with this???" And now it makes sense, I'm just stupid sometimes 😩

corpse party.

@@panielrosebud Someone in japan... ideas... guro tag... you know... >implying

​@@panielrosebudExplains that shit with Yuuka.

@@AManChoosesASlaveObeysero guro😂

As an anime fan turned manga-binger, TL notes are a Godsend and make consuming the media more fun and a tad bit educational.

I would finally be able to watch Monogatari if every pun was explained lol

@@xilo6830 It would take you about three months to get through each episode, but sure.

Good translators: "I spent three days wracking my brain and researching obscure 1920's slang terms to figure out how I could completely retranslate half the terminology and wordplay in a way that would make this offhand joke maybe make sense to anyone who knows the meaning of the word 'hokum'." Great translators: "*"

@@CheshireCad then you've got the shitty hacks who either put in internet memes that age like fine milk, despite being paid to do a proper job, or God forbid, people who modify and bastardize a whole chunk of the work for their own self-serving ends, spitting in the face of the artists who have entrusted them with their work. ...but on a grand day, you get pirate translators who commit to translating it in stereotypical Australian English + slang

It’s honestly amazing how many unintentionally funny scenes this visual novel has. Moochi playing rock paper scissors and then piss man whipping out a shotgun is looney tunes level of comedy

@@Ikcatcher That's a fucking baller way to win at RPS lmao

​@@cecilsmith2061 rock, paper, shotgun?

Literally, the best scene in the game, it was way funnier than the sheep thing. The comedy peaked in that moment. Who knew a finger gun would lose to a real gun?

That's literally the last battle of Persona 5.

Most common than you think actually

Great pfp

like that guy from Highschool of the Dead

​@@renalanf0rdgod that man was such a menace but in a good way

We call him Big Chungus, and man he is good. Built like a football player, brain like a pro detective. That mf is hard to deal with.

I’m in my mid-thirties and you literally just taught me that. The things you don’t notice…

Sorry could you explain, beat - els ?

@@SOLO.SHAD0W-HAWK It's like "beetles" but "beat" because music. At least I'm pretty sure.

My mouth just hit the floor at this 1:45:31 moment...

same except English is my second language. I wondered what the FUCK is up with that word untill this video explained it.

Well, he's more "Piss-man" than "Fusaishi Haruaki" anyways

Hashimoto is so based, like omfg. During the chapter when you're a Wolf he constantly had your number, and I found myself going "Fuck you, Hashimoto!~" but with all the love in my heart~

Ngl, part of me wants to play the game just for Hashimoto

Imagine if he was the protagonist instead, and the game is written as an actual grounded murder mystery, we would be watching mental masscre, man would just deduce all your insecurities and roast the living hell out of you levels of absolute domination.

Why is he Piss-man again?

It would also add a low level of narrative tension to the entire game. The audience will be left wondering who he was, whether his actions are dictated by his secret identity, and whether he's even a reliable narrator.

I would be cool if in the second loop where he was with the cop, the cop would try to read his ID but kept getting interrupted While in the village there would be some shit with his name on it they would have or Hashimoto being a fan of his works and that's the reason why he has about the same wavelength of thought as the guy

​​@@Bluecho4 I finished my playthrough of this game like a day before this video came out, and I'll tell you it's heavily heavily hinted at throughout the whole story that Haruaki Fusaishi is a fake name. There are tons of moments where he alludes to being a liar, not being who he says he is, and specifically refers to Haruaki in the third person in his own thoughts. The low tension you talk about of the audience thinking "who is this guy actually?" Is very very present. I hate making 🤓 comments like this and the game is definitely a mess but I thought that reveal was well-earned

@@Bluecho4 Fake name or not, his internal dialogue and rather ...oddly muted reactions to the craziness of the village and his analytical tendencies even near the start of the game made me pretty sure there was more going on with the guy than "I'm trying to get over a breakup by motorcycling through the countryside", although my bet was that he was either some sort of undercover investigator secretly called in by someone in the village or a criminal running to lay low from a screwup in the city. His descriptions of other characters as caricatures and general meta commentary throughout made the eventual murder mystery author reveal work for me. Of course he's half-thinking in characterization and narrative tropes and mystery solving, because that's his job. As far as reliable narration goes, my perspective might be skewed because I cut my VN teeth on Tsukihime and Fate/Stay Night, but my default assumption is that VN narrators are at least highly biased even if they're not deliberately hiding information from the reader.

​@@Bluecho4 i kinda figured out he was lying about who he was by the start of chapter 3

>the best ongoing gag would have to be the badass hashimoto WDYM, he is a badass! He's covered wars before, y'know! You're just treating him like a joke because you know he isn't in the room with you right now!

@@cecilsmith2061 If he was in the room with me I would fear for my life

​@@ghagen5552 hashimoto would deduce every single way you've ever disappointed your mom and send them to your crush for dissing him like that

Fear and hunger reference?​@@cecilsmith2061

I , on the other hand, hate Hashimoto character. It is the bad writing of a Genius type. He just magically know everyones characters and how they act. Deduce everything perfectly when there is not enough infomation to do so. The MC have the power of looping to learn. This man do it in 1 day. Magically know facts that absolutely not a red herring. Magically know what the MC'sthought process are without actually talk to the MC once. Couple with the fact that you cant actually use the loop ability to change minutr detail of the same loop. It is infuriating.

On a normal day, the "gun" hand is easily beaten by a "rock" to the nose, a "scissors" to the eyes, or, if you're feeling merciful, a "paper" to the cheek. but he's a crossdresser lol

"shit, cant win against that.." "yea ill make it quick"

I mean calling it 'unintentionally funny' isn't doing it justice, is it? This was clearly intentionally a joke, beating 'fake gun' with 'real gun' was obviously meant to be funny.

​​@cecilsmith2061 "but he's a crossdresser" what tf does that have to do with it

@@eins2001 u mad bro? :DDDDDDDD

It is a "I bet you forgot about that detail" moment - everytime Haruaki lies he begins by saying "Ummm...", and every time he gives his name he starts wth "Ummm..." so if you reread before the ending sequence it is implied that it isn't his real name. The reason isn't really explained but it is fairly consistent with his personality of being a scumbag who likes to mess with people. Meiko solving the plot is silly though.

Haruaki having lied was actually the only part of the ending that I felt made complete sense, lol.

@@TheMartianCherry yess I thought about that part a lot. When Chiemi mentioned that he uses 'umm..' before lying and always introduced himself as 'umm.. I'm Haruaki Fusaishi'. Even though this happened towards the end, I really liked it and how he used it against uematsu. I completely agree with the Meiko part of the comment

Japanese writers LOVE their stupid twists. It feels like if instead of being panned, M Night Shamalyan was the most respected writer for the last 50 years and then the results of that. What soap opera bullshit writing in western TV shows is to the west, "LA TWEEEEST!" is to Japanese popular media writing.

​@@zeriel9148The eastern narrative flow, KiShoTenKetsu is literally built around the climax being a twist. That's just how the japanese writes stuff

Well, this isn't that unbelievable. He may be smart, but he is still human, I don't think he is a combat specialist or good at fighting even when he did American Football at some point making him a solid body. Ultimately, a stab to the chest or a bullet through the head is all it takes to kill a person. No amount of confidence, wit or smarts will save you if you didn't know the knife or bullet was coming which he certainly did not the first two times.

It's cause everyone else is too damn stupid to do anything.

is it not the quintessential social deduction experience to have a teammate job constantly when you roll town, but the moment you get the power to kill they spontaneously transform into sherlock goddamn holmes

it helps that after the first 2 times he DOESN'T die instantly. I'd assume he would be a formidable "player" either of those loops if he didn't.

I mean the two times he did die were purely due to not being informed of having to stay inside all night, as far as I could tell from the video. First one he died because the van doesn't count as staying inside. Second one he died because he went outside to go to the loo, not knowing he wasn't allowed to do that. The third time we gave him a situation where he would just stay inside - and hey look, he survived to then absolutely be the biggest threat to us possible! :D

Ace Attorney Investigations 2 moment (I really liked the names the fan localization came up with honestly, if we ever do get an official translation I would be sad if they changed them).

Luke Atme Wright Miles of Edge

@@maiam388 I actually learned about this in a donation during The Nyancave's stream of case 5 of that game. Being bilingual myself I can absolutely relate tbh, and in Japanese of all languages... Afaik most Asian languages have a good amount of words that just don't even exist in most western languages, plus the slight differences between multiple versions of the same phrase (for example, suki, daisuki, aishiteru and koishiteru all sufficiently translate as "I love you" despite having VERY different connotations in Japanese) make localisations a nightmare by themselves, let alone the very particular and restricted translation a pun calls for. Edit: A creative solution Scarlet Study (iirc that's the name?) did in their fan translation of The Great Ace Attorney for Magnus McGilded specifically is that they dubbed him Cosney Megundal, by taking the pronounciation of a Japanese phrase that meant something like "keep the change" and then adjusting it to sound like a name. My memory is vague, but you can probably find the exact thing in the comment section of some older playthroughs. I always thought that was really cool.

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@@FlantisFroggu Pfp (Profile picture) and / or Banner Sauce (Source [Artist])? 🗿

😮

Hahaha 😅

Yeah, at the start I was hoping the last loop would be outfoxing the game with all your knowledge and ensuring nobody dies despite the wolves.

​@@HeckYep Same. It would have been so interesting to see this turning into a stalemate. Let's say, you would blackmail the wolves by revealing you know their identities but you will also get protection from them every night. Or let's say that is impossible to set up and you have to decide who needs to die to minimize fatalities, maybe including allies who would go berserk. So much lost potential.

Yeah, honestly, I thought the game would naturally progress that way, and eventually the final act would have him as a wolf trying to sabotage the other wolves for love-interest girl to survive with the others while sacrificing himself, somewhere along the lines of that, the story and premise was so interesting and fun when it was grounded, but when the stupid button was pressed, it was all pure slop at the end.

Why it's not the best story in the world, you can tell that Ozzy is deliberately framing the video to be as negative as possible for the sake of his own point.

The moment you go 'it wasn't magic at all, it was all a conspiracy!' it all falls apart. Take that bit out, keep the significance of the ritual relevant and then have the MC break the ritual in some fun genius way only a time looper could do. Hell he practically *did* do that, the idea of faking the killing of a god making people lose faith in him and thus nerfing his power would've been fine! Stick with it, have the mist never descend cause the god causing it is now on the same level as the badger!

Woolo and Mareep would have words, mainly one word each, but words nonetheless

The real maybe sheep along made massacres we the

I hate you, that is all.

Ha! That's what she said!

that's a lot of sheep

One of the endings is in fact called "Raging Loup" for that same reason. The translation team were really good with what they had.

ehehehe

Shin Megami has weirdly prepared me for that

Unnamed npc appearing at the start with a detailed ingame model that acts kinda off, yup yup. Since playing P3 and P4, I always end up just being suspicious of that type of npc and any kind of goofy comedy relief side character.

Correct! You win a very shitty ending for a game that could've been so much more interesting.

I'm probably 10hrs away from beating P4G and reading this has me stunned

Cant believe the gross underaged relationship had better romance writing ngl

​@nandanthony like yeah how was the relationship with the teen that killed him once the cutest one that fellthe less weird???

@@personnemay2692 Oh, 100%. It's all gore porn on underage girls. The manga is even worse.

@@nandanthony Would they be a considered a teen anymore? It's said that she's been in the loop for decades, so her body may be young but mentally she's decades old, way older than the protag. When the reverse happened in Jobless reincarnation, aka Rudeus, and he was a kid flirting with girls "his age" people had a problem with it then.

​@@ioele1000I think you misunderstood; Chiemi (black hair, main love interest, torturous time looper) isn't a teenager afaik. She's the one who killed the MC a bunch. Ozzy didn't go into detail during this video, presumably for his own sanity, but he indicated that there is a romantic subplot with Haru (brown hair) in Loop 3. Haru is 15, and while the (alleged?) badger god indicates an awareness of time loops, it does not seem to be a participating member in THESE time loops. And also Haru herself would remain a... cohost?... of the body, and SHE is still 15 both mentally and physically. That, in Loop 3, is the weird romance with a teenager the other commenter means.

He just needed a explanation, thats how you win against them

This comment has me clapping my hands and laughing

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@@SimoneBellomonte Kunoichi Tsubaki, its a scene from the anime itself

I suppose that doing both is just the latter case, but cultists working mundanely to magical ends doesn't seem like an impossible plot. In fact a lot of the cultists in Lovecraft's work do just that. This game doesn't and can't really handle that well due to the timeloops showing the monster, but if it were re-written then I think it could be pulled off well. You would need to lessen how much the mundane can do to more show the difference between the two. Hell have the MC believe and then get dissolutioned with the supernatural elements of the plot and have him discover and reveal every mundane reason for why things are the way they are, but make one thing not fit this puzzle, and that is something actually supernatural that makes him believe again, and allows for an easier bridge into the end of the world.

@@elloo98 You absolutely can have a situation where cultists or normal humans direct the supernatural entity for their own rational reasons or in ways that at first look seem to indicate no supernatural involvement. Look no further than Death Note. That kind of scenario is still supernatural horror because you can't explain away the supernatural components. So an example of structure A would be The Hound of Baskervilles, while an example of structure B would be The Horror at Red Hook. What I think would work the best for Raging Loop is creating two major unconnected mysteries- one supernatural and one not supernatural- with some smaller mysteries peppered around them. Use the not supernatural mystery as either a red herring or an obstacle to solving the supernatural mystery.

​@@wardrobewings8000 That's... Exactly what the game does though, the feast is a red herring that a first is thought to be tied in with the loop but that later turns out yo be a non supernatural element disconnected from the supernatural element.

It's like.. On the tip of my tongue... It almost feels like a Takeshi Obata work, maybe it's the All You Need is Kill cover? but at the same time, it reminds me of the manga cover for 6000? it's hard to place... I also think it reminds me of a ps1 or ps2 game... But I can't place that feeling... It feels really familiar though for sure

​@@ROAD-HORROR PS1 or PS2 would make sense for the era of Kaneko art I'm thinking of, for sure

It looks kind of like art from Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga to me

@@SBLoktopus Yeah! Kaneko was the artist on that one & that's exactly the era I was thinking of too

For some reason it gives me a very Drakengard 1 vibe... namely the Caim art with the creepy smile.

i have something similar, high intelligence low wisdom, sometimes i just figure things out and i have no clue how to explain it

@@calibursatsujin3112Yes, I'm sure that facebook iq test was totally legit.

Or he's just the special snowflake main protagonist.

That reminded me of Comet from Gnosia, who has low formal intelligence but amazing intution.

@@RoyalFusilier how the hell did I not think of that one

Idk When I heard about the Monkeys, my first thought was "Oh, its the Lovers but crooked". I really do think they were trying to play the love triangle straight, and didnt do it well.

Bro is a legend of editing and a artist at work

Something about the patter and pacing just makes the hours fly by!

Read the extras, it tells that it wasn't all not supernatural, it tells that haruaki has awakened an archetype called detective which reduces supernatural events to dumb realistic events. I can't explain it properly read the last extra.

@@balajik8473It’s in the video, but that’s not an explanation, that just turns everything from bad to worse.

Ikr? They builded such an interesting and well crafted inner folklore for their story just to throw it all down the shitter. How this have any fans is a mytery, to be it went from like 9 out 10 to 1 out of ten . Can't respect this novel on the slightest after.

This is litterally a detective conan twist, it makes everything "sci fi" or "grounded" and ruins the "mystical or supernatural elements of it"

​@@balajik8473 ah yes. the sixth spirit. the 🤓

One thing I've noticed about japanese writing is that a lot of them have a problem with some soft form of megalomania. I don't think anyone told them to add those twists, that's just how their stories go. Subtlety usually doesn't survive till the end.

​@@Totallynotkyubeywith how that last side story plays out, it feels like they had a story planned out, and then some higher up went, "but how do we tie this into the rest of our universe?" And instead of letting it play out naturally, we get this abomination of an ending. That's my hope anyways, cause I refuse to believe the writers wanted this.

@@Pzychotix I don't think small scale projects like this have a lot "higher ups".

@@Totallynotkyubey > Soft Form The Japanese just LOVE Kudzu plots. The trope is named after a Japanese plant for a reason.

@@Totallynotkyubey I've seen a number of Japanese movies that had very interesting premises and getting really good in the middle but fall flat on it's ending quite a bit. Pulse and Battle Royale comes to mind. I wonder if the authors intended to take the concept even further past the middle section of the story, but just never got to due to budgeting constraints.

Same...

They had us in the first half, not gonna lie. Maybe mystery stories should just stick to the first idea instead of coming up with another idea to throw off the tracks. Mysteries are so obsessed with coming up with plot twists that it gets in the way of actual satisfaction.

@@Boomblox5896agreed. Sometimes these twists that explain everything are kind of satisfying, but most of the time they fall so flat. I always wish it was simply supernatural

I honestly thought it seemed really good at first. It, uh, didn't last lol

@@mothmantra6289 And thus we have a critical flaw in mystery stories. They only know how to write it good for the first half before they realize "Quick, we gotta throw them off so it really feels like a mystery!" in the second half. Maybe simpler stories would be better in this case, even if it's "predictable".

Same re: pun. It might have been more obvious for people who were introduced to the Beatles as adults, but as someone who is young enough to have learned how to spell "beetle" and "Beatles" at about the same time, it completely went over my head until now

oh no. I guess you don't know why Umineko was so hated when chapter 7 and 8 first came out......

I feel like we read the wrong story because the goats in chapter 8 pissed alot of people off because it was ryu making fun of the people who tried to solve the story. I used to love wtc but have come to absolutely despise it soley for ryus writing of exponitionism of not being able to stfu and also that he took on too much to finish cico. I still adore raging loop though but I'm biased because I read it with my wife. I didn't find the reveal that bad still wonder why everyone hates it. Gnosia is really good as well if you haven't read it

LMAO THIS @@jackhou7086

@@jackhou7086 i actually hated a bit those last ones, didnt even finish because of how long it was the chapter 8

@@jackhou7086 people suspected shannon=kannon since chapter 2

The strange did feel awkward but it does make sense to me after reading all the tips and learning that the author tried to tie this vn into his universe which is full with supernatural powers. I do have complaints with this game though but they're stemming from something completely else

I think people were just turned on by how she and her family actually just has sex with everyone, so they overlook all the bad to see the appealing plot spikes.

They also have a huge The Silver Case vibe

It bugs me how much this twist COULD have been used to make the abrupt ending actually make sense and still feel like the protagonist accomplished something. Instead of the little girl abruptly destroying the spider god with never before revealed superpowers and only finding it out in Revelation mode, have the protag give out some kind of big dramatic explanation of how the spider god was totally fake, which erases it from existance. The ending could still have a mysterious aspect that encourages you to play Revelation mode, cos you've got the villain being like "wtf no that wasn't my plan at all, of course the spider god is real- wait WHAT" as it spontaneously disintegrates. Then either have revelation mode immediately reveal the protag's "making the irrational rational" power right at the start of even have the regular ending tease it after the credits. Then add more scenes in Revelation mode of him accidentally using his power throughout the story and you'd have an interesting hook to read through! You'd not only be getting all the other characters's perspectives but also unpacking what the supernatural plot REALLY was before he defeated it. (Maybe even could have the whole "it's just cameras and electric locks" thing be false too and there really was magic to it.) It would be an interesting idea of a game having two concurrent plot twists both happening and our hero has no clue he changed which one became canon. And idk, could leave off on an interesting sequel hook to wanna maybe see a game next time where he solves some other mystery now fully aware of his power and actively trying to battle the supernatural with normality! Lotta potential here, shame it's completely wasted...

The pinnacle of bad fiction is having a legitimately decent idea and then shoving it into the tail end of a story as a shocking plot twist, ruining any chance for that idea to actually develop and expand upon. It usually also ruins the entire story leading up to it, since all the potential that had is thrown out the window since it was all a ruse leading up to The Twist.

Please edit your comment so you need to tap "read more" to see the spoiler. As you are literally the top result and spoiled me of no fault of my own

@@bestaround3323 better?

@@markusbarten455 much, thanks

(Having watched the video -- I agree completely; and yet for some reason I still really like the game!)

Yea same here, I really can't get this game out of my mind, I hope there would be a sequel to this.

Rating Loop ist good and messy. It aint good cause its messy but its still enjoyable and Not in a guilty pleasure way

hey should i watch this video if i want to experience the game for myself? like are there any big good plot twist?

​​​@@paul_particularlyunhappynutah nah don't watch it, it kills the feeling of mysticism that characterizes the game right from the get go, as he is doing a quick run down of all the events of the game, effectively spoiling it Play and then watch

When I got through the second part of the game, I started calling it bootkeg/Walmart higurashi lol

It does feel like the poor man's version of Umineko

You did!? I loved it! It was one of my favorite games that year, and I was so glad to have bought it!

@@sensifacient I did bugtesting and editting on the script, so I had a minor role that involved having to play the entire thing a lot, so I was happy it was such a good game.

I bet it will get more views in the future. Just wait 😌

Professional level quality video? Dude is just saying the plot of the VN from start to finish but in 2 hours except for 10 or however long the VN is.

@@maelis9573 It takes time to decide what game to make a video on, play the game, script the video, record the script, cut the clips, edit the video, add music and make a thumbnail. I enjoy this content and feel its pretty high quality. It probably takes a lot of time to make. It’s better than the trash you upload on your channel. If you dont like the video, click off. Why tf would you go to the comments and talk shit

@@maelis9573 Also, this game is too long for it's sake. So 2 hours instead of 40 hours or so is definitely worth it.

Yeah, that's what I did. Was having the time of my life all the way up to act 3 until I'd finally prepared myself for act 4 - which I had been warned was a slog to get through. But even I, as low as my expectations were, could not have been more prepared for what I had to endure next. Holy shit, that mansion part with Kiyonosuke in that basement made me physically die. For once, I wished that I was Haruaki so that I could loop and stop myself from experiencing that god forsaken lore dump boredom. And now I'm here watching this video instead. Again, it's a good game, but the finale let it down

I think it's good if you ignore the flaws

Honestly Zero Time Dilemma was a masterpiece right up until the final act, then it just turns into the "Damn it Eric!" variety hour

I'd say ZTD is worse than this

Uneasy feeling* not worrying

That's objectively kinda bad writing cause nothing matters until piss man comes to his conclusion

I think the only the supernatural that was erased is the village method's of killing. The evil spider was still there and it had to be weakened by unbelief. The Kid's black goat was the one who killed the spider. It just happened that he unconciously make it actually "not real" due to his power.