Damn straight, Rags hitting the big time. Rags you need a Patreon soon I want to support you

How did you find out?

Undoomed hey

I ship Undoomed and Rags

+Rags Probably how many of us planned on sending it to him, some just beat others to it. Lol. Undoomed is pretty fucking wonderful, me and my girl spoke to him through twitter, he's a blast.

It's perfectly rational. You're supposed to White Knight when she says there's not enough female leads, and excuse her responsibility when she claims it doesn't matter after she's summarized her demands.

because they are not saying make every character female but sometimes throw them a bow and give more good female characters. Not much to ask for.

Double think. It doesn't matter but it does matter.

Fuck them. Everytime I see these so-called feminists complaining by even the slightest of things. I ignore and scroll on. People should be throwing a thumbs down and continue with their days.

They never talk about games that allow you to pick and customize their character, its really annoying how they either gloss over or straight out ignore that. Regardless you don't tell an artist what to paint and you don't tell a game designer how to make their game. If I made a game and I wanted the protagonist's side kick to be a floating pair of wise cracking tits with bazookas instead of nipples. Then by fucking god I will put in there because it'd be my fucking game damn it!

LMAO gold comment

It is if this is PornHub.

Lmao

tho in the comments he highlighted, there were people who were saying that they would not play such game for having a female protagonist. 2 minutes in and he is already wrong

There are two comments. Literally two. One of them is complaining more about the fact that the game may be attempting to push some feminist narrative that we haven't seen yet, which it could very well do. The other is some edgelord who can't even grammar. Don't be such a fucking twat.

a.k.a like Rey. A shit and incredibly bland Mary-Sue

Matt Allen how are they a Mary Sue

+Joe Bilson 1:she can fix the Millennium Falcon better than Han fucking Solo 2:she ca successfully pull off a Jedi mind trick despite having NO training whatsoever 3: she never held a lightsaber in her life and yet is able to beat Kylo who was trained by Luke (and no, using a staff is VERY different to using a lightsaber)

Or a shit game lol

I do care a little but only cause i feel wierd playing as a girl cause im a huy

Venerable Dreadnought Omg 😂😂

Venerable Dreadnought top kek 👌

Venerable Dreadnought Take just one wrong step and BOOM, they're triggered.

that joke was so bad. you might wanna . . . . . , . . . . . PURGE

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They do. They just getting yelled at. There's a certain irony when gamers yell "censorship" when it's in their favor. If the creator's pressured to remove something people largely don't care about(like say with Mevius Final Fantasy) you don't hear shit and the change of the artistic vision is 100% acceptable. But anyways I am not sure why I am bothering to write about this. It's mostly likely gonna get dogpiled anyways.

exactly what I say, if developers made a game based on people's ideas, you will have to make like thousands of different variations of the same game just to please certain people. a female protagonist for Gears of war, a black protagonist for Gears of War. You cannot make a game that appeals to everyone, that is why a thing called "Target Audience" exists in the Media industry, it is because they want a certain group of gamers to play it.

That's is very much true. Though is it bad to occasionally try to appeal to more people at the same time? I am not saying: change games fundamentally, but would it really be that much of a bother if say a MMO in the signup page includes a third gender option(ex. not specified). It's very little effort and doesn't affect anyone except for the ones that like it. Which may not even be that many, but still. It does little. Just baby steps, that's all.

There are no third gender. Deal with it.

A MMORPG is a different thing, I do think it is important for Roleplaying games to have more options for your player but in terms of a 3rd Gender? (I personally believe there is only male and female but have enough respect to let people decide their own views) I do not think that will cause any problems to the developers but when it comes to the majority's common views as well as other player's interpretations, they may address you as a male or a female because you generally look like one or the other, you cannot assume people are going to know you are a different gender by appearance and you cannot expect people to just accept your 3rd gender and deal with it when people judge gender on appearance. For a shooter game set in World War II, you cannot expect a multiplayer or singleplayer to give the option of playing a female or 3rd gender when such things were not seen at the time. females only recently been given the option to be on the frontlines though it is still a challenge to accept because man's instincts is to protect a woman from harm, especially if they know them so I assume it would do more damage than save lives and you cannot called that sexist because that has always been an instinct for millennia just just women are naturally able to mother a child because instincts. So as for 3rd Gender? it can be accepted in MMORPGs but do not expect it in any game that has a story to tell from someone's point of view.

LofeOfZofe I’m a feminist and I loooove video games so no, I don’t attack gamers, I am one

Which doesn't even make any sense. He's a dog! They are being so racist assuming he is a human!

This guy does appear to be a shit human tho, spending thirty minutes on this just to create a breeding ground for hate toward feminists. Recommended right under are more videos about girls being in battlefield or whatever. A bunch of bullshit over video games acting like this is important stuff or an enlightened outlook. It’s a non issue

@@ertr3388 Such a non-issue you're commenting on it, it seems.

Hikaru Joestar trust me, she isn’t the first feminist to do so. they all seem to start having that in common once they get bigger channel wise, and as a female i find it dumb that they say this sorta shit. i also find horizon zero dawn is an awesome game and i can’t wait to see more from the group who made the game. it was very interesting story wise and the ending was extremely excited to me, not the final boss but the story centered around it, it did do some sequel baiting but i can forgive it for how excited the story was to me, just my personal opinion, and this chick is somewhat wrong, some characters did find alloy very attractive, like Petra for instance. however they didn’t force a relationship for this game either, and i appreciate that a ton, since it seems a lot of games try to force that. horizon was actually the game that drew me to the ps4 after my switch died too, and even though they sequel baited they actually could just leave the game as a one off and it would still work very well in relation to story, it does seem like we will get more from this series and i can’t wait for more. sorry to ramble a bit, it’s just all that came to my mind while listening to her points, at least halfway through the video anyways.

@@maskedkittyMC can i marry you? This is the best description i have ever seen.

oh hello i didnt know you watched Rags

Been watching since about 30k (not to sound like one of those hipsters :p ) but yeah, really enjoy his videos.

Checkmate atheists

I've been around since the beginning.

Right. Yeah...the most savage response of all time. Didn't see it coming at all

"So you are saying he needs a D to function, how dare you! He needs some sort of amorphous source, not some patriarchal bs." Is the sort of anwser you will get to that question. Don't reason with idiots, they will bring you down to their level.

Like Arthur Morgan

@@sonofkabisch he is not like a full villan, he isnt an evil man just an outlaw but still has moral codes so i cant see him as a villan we he isnt "evil".

sonofkabisch Arthur's much more of an anti hero than an actual villain

Where did they talk about playing as a villain?

Like venom in ultimate spiderman

Marek Sandomżski but hey pc master race fight : )

If only that was true :D

Not cool dude took a joke and ruined it with racism god people like you make me hate the internet

Marek Sandomżski lol

Hunter Cunningham What? lol

Ocean Man BUT HOW DO YOU KNOW IF HE APPEARED OR NOT?!

Ocean Man where? I can't see him.

+ Axel Drans Slim Shady, that's how.

Can't see me, my time is now! You can't see me, my time is now!!

nothing personal

Come on, we ALL know people play Tomb Raider mostly to watch Lara Croft's ass. I played the first one when I was a kid and HATED IT... but still played because it used to make me all fuzzy down there.

Aurex sameeeeee

Exactly, no other audience in history supported Female protagonists so mcuh a videogames. Before all this SJW garbage started videogames were all about getting better female protagonists. Now nobody is complaining about having female protagonists, but Crappy female protagonists.

....Dino Crisis... Resident Evil 1 Parasite Eve.... In Fear Effect, the protagonist is a lesbian. Though... bet that would be turned around as a male fantasy or something.

Aurex lol so true

Chiron really?

Why?

guys this is obviously sarcasm

Rags: I FOUND IT AT LAST!!

Bloggerboy1000 because it might be of his personal prefference. Come on guys...like really

Thanks

Michael Prymula aww, poor snowflake are you melting?

Michael Prymula considering that your last post consists of a 2-worded rebuttal with one of them being a overused buzzword, I don't think you have the right to lecture me on how I'm the snowflake here, snowflake.

How does it feel to be triggered? Typical leftist arguing using feelings and name calling rather than facts.

Happily married actually. Calling people virgins just points out your own insecurities. Once again more proof that leftists use name calling rather than facts.

i agree

sk8erbyern amen

Yep, that is why I play female Shepard or a female character in the game Black Desert Online. It is fun. It has like a different perspective you know?

That could be boiled down to sex sells

I think this comment is wrong. Gamers like *games,* not just the protagonist. ;3

Owen Porter i also lost at cod being an rpg

Matt Harder Well said, good sir!

Ethan Redsky I'm not sure if the end of your comment was towards me or to the other guy but I know it's just a video game that's why I said I don't care if it's a male or female main character if I'm having fun playing it....then ill play it.

Matt Harder your ruining my middevil emersion

thegamingchance idk how I'm doing that but okay

L_E_A_N_D_Y umm hi

Blackzero123 what about lesbians eh

Aloy is hot tho

parshnipz57 They might go the extra mile which could make a cliché character and/or become annoying rather than sexy

I dunno man,Bayonetta's character designer is a woman

@@floofiekun1875 pink not white.

Dallows65, And was a brilliant game.

Im never playing that again

she didn't bother listing " Princess Crown " either... probably because it has the word "Princess" in it... and that's too stereotype already. What about "La Puscelle" ? Nah... characters too young. Or " Yggdra Union" ? Nah...

Dallows65 i know right?

Jason Pabon hmm i like badger more tbh

Coen wildevos agreed. rags is still an amazing KZfaqr though

Jason Pabon badjur doesnt have long videos you burrito

Don't be sorry, Bajur is my papi

Trem You can't do 30-90 minutes of memes like Badger does dawg. Most of it will be Clarence stealing the spotlight.

Cameron Moore but i like Aloy o.o i also like Samus though. Til the blight that is other M but we dont mention that bastard child in polite company.

Ripley did it firster and betterer!

Teeny Tiny Asakura why are we having a female hero dick measuring contest

Cameron Moore Ellen Ripley

Do you want to use it ?!?

Everyone said my name was stupid so I changed it. yeah I usually used that logic as well you tend to kill more men than women

Stiffy Jiffy Also there's way less female characters in that game, be that enemies or regular NPCs

TheJrr but who cares about enemies I got boobs on my side and a skin tight vault suit

Confirmed Bachelor isn't in Fallout 4 though. Pretty sure it only appeared in New Vegas.

Stiffy Jiffy Sorry to say but Confirmed Bachelor and its female equivelant Cherchez La Femme only appear in New Vegas.

Right Wing Radio I agree heavily. Always found it annoying how Geralt would say "That's no way to treat a lady" because someone was a little rude to her, yet he's fine with beating up, or even murdering men who don't deserve it. If a woman is committing a crime, I want to be able to stop her and put her to justice, not kill the guys who are mad at her (like the example you gave.

Right Wing Radio Never thought of that game like that.

Remember it's based on a book. It's not part of an agenda it's just the way Witcher 3 went.

it's an RPG so it depends on your choices and how you see things example yennefer doesn't have to be your romance option you can chose triss or neither and just go to a brothel. the bloody baron story line paints both the husband and wife as pieces of shits just for different reasons, geralt even comments on this. the skellige election depends on what you perceive as good or bad since both siblings have pros and cons to their rule. you said the women is the best leader that's probably because its the way you see it others might think its better for skellige to maintain their military tactics. ciri the girl who saves the world is being chased by an evil man (elf) but is being saved by a good man. the blood and wine ending again depends on what you think is a good ending, maybe the good ending is letting her die to save a kind of sort of innocent vampire man. you do got jail but your set free later on no harm done. I hate SJW as much as the next guy but come on man not everything is a conspiracy against men. be very careful your starting to sound like them.

1. Geralt is a white knight, no matter what you choose. 2. yennifer is his girlfriend before any romance options 3. The baron is clearly the bad guy. You even get to tell him how much of a piece of shit he is. Was he an abusive husband and father? yes. Does he get aired out excessively for it? yes. 5. Ciri is being saved by a good man? OK, but who is the hero? Ciri. Who is the evil one? right... 6. Oh, you get thrown in jail and the entire city hates you and you don't get your money. No harm done though....lmao dude. Lastly, what did I ever say about SJW's? Oh yeah, nothing.

Plane simulator ?

Some guys must be into that, we all got fetishes.

nah fam

Closure yeah bro

Whats with all the people saying she's insanely ugly? Whats wrong with you? She's basically as fit as you can be and I dont think there's anything wrong with the face, the hair's pretty badass too. What, is your definition of "not-ugly" to look like Kate Upton or Megan Fox?

***** *press X for doubt*

The Curious Orca, Well Grunt is bloody hot.

Hell yeah he is!

Garrus is where it's at.

Nah Wrex All the way for me

Kaishi Mitsune, How about both at the same time?

run away shes a feminist

Her voice is kind of cute but she has some serious problems with accent.

@@Spellweaver5 You call that a problem? ;)

@@Quasihamster Compared to what she actually says it's not but it's still annoying when you can barely decipher her words.

@@Spellweaver5 I had no problem at all understanding her. Being European might help. :)

Basically yes, i've said this before and i said it again, there's no winning with delutional feminists

***** Or alternatively, destroy the 3rd wave movement so actual feminists who are advocates of gender equality can do their work in peace

ProtoMario BUT PROTO

ProtoMario No ones ever happy...

fuck off

Matheus Boarini Jeesus

TheVertix IsHere lol

Cheezus crust

You might want to get that checked out, it could be a health issue.

Does your metaphorical tail wag too?

I just started playing HZD and my forehead is already hurting from all the facepalms.

I love this comment

are you triggered by the constant destruction of your race?

I actually identify as a bottle oil and I never see them in video games #oillivesmatter

P0ISON dead meme

I would love to see an attack helicopter in skyrim. MAKE IT A MOD!

+Dishoungh White But that still doesn't make sense. It's at least excusable (although not admirable) if someone is not interested in politics or world events and is ignorant/uniformed on the matter. Or even if they're people influenced by whatever the mass media feeds them. At the end of the day, they're just another person and it it's inconsequential in the big scheme of things. ...That isn't the case in Horizon: Zero Dawn. You're a hunter/gatherer and you're actively looking for a fight with killer-fucking-robots. And you're using spears. And bows. When your life is in jeopardy and you're actually in combat, unless you're an unhinged berzerking-nearing-suicidal dolt, you're going to look for technological edges in combat. This is one of the things humanity does best - inventing new ways to kill things. I mean, it's not like the society we see is an actual stone age society. It's humans in the future that have reverted to that. Even if we didn't build the killer robots and they didn't turn on us and they're alien or whatever, we still have documentation of about 6,000 years of human progress. More if you count cave paintings. And, even if we didn't, some village shaman or some shit is going to see killer robots dispensing death, murder and mayhem and think "gee, that's awfully fucking useful abilities - we know these things have parts and components that make them up just like we have bones, so what if we could use their abilities?". I refuse - _absolutely refuse_ - to sit back and accept that in the face of *_possible extinction_* that humanity would be _that retarded_ and keep steadfastly using spears made of metal scrap and makeshift bows to take on autonomous combat-ready killer robots. It's fucking absurd. Even more so when, IIRC, in one of the past gameplay trailers we see the main character tossing a consumable EMP/electricity grenade at one of the robots. I mean come the fuck on... From both a gameplay and a narrative stand-point, that's just a contradiction and a dumb move.

matchesburn Fine. Fair enough.

Whenever the topic comes up about gender for protagonists the only thing I care about is believability. Doesn't matter what gender or color the protagonist is as long as what they are doing fits with however the character is designed. Alloy looks and feels believable for her role in this game. If she was ripping the robots apart with her bare hands I would have a hard time rolling with that.

This reminds me of movies like Cowboys and Aliens or Independence Day with its naive message of "it doesn't matter if the enemy outclasses you with who knows how many thousands of years of technological development, firepower and outnumbers you greatly, you can still win by being brave and special and smart and perfect!" The suspension of disbelief is at an all-time low for me with this game.

Lance Leander L. Cembrano You can relate to a character in other areas than just gender. Look at a characters vulnerabilities, strengths, charms, weaknesses, and overall outlook on life.

@Qyx Huh?

@Qyx I Did Play The Game, But I Didn't Really Notice The Feminist Agenda,I Just Assumed That Since The Game Has A "Tribal" Like System That Worships A Fertility Goddess That Their Culture And Governemt System Would See Women As Valuable

@Qyx And Because Of That I Thought The Emphasis On Women In The Game Was A Normal Thing

@Qyx Darn I Guess You Got A Good Point Bro, Well Atleast It's Not Like The Last Of Us 2

@Qyx @Qyx Good Point Bro, Also As For A Game Where The Men are Good And Women Are Bad I Think There Is A Game Like That.....

shut up b0ss everythang is p0ssible if you believe in it

Alex Krycek Hey, Chris Redfield punched a boulder, soooo...

Why? If we where so realistic then she should be dieing with every little hit or at least have a dozen broken bones with ever little hit since those are metallic monsters.

+Anon ymous Suspension of disbelief, man.

Alex Krycek in the game they gave her this metal thing to slide down ropes

fool! nothing can contain the smackdown!

Captain Natjo XD

Team Pottsy72, Shes a rare one.

xyzqsrbo trabslated: "I want to cause a problem where there is none"

I love trabstlating things.

xyzqsrbo bad*

+Flan Cake You don't get what the expression "This should be good" means do you? It is a sarcastic statement used by man people.

xyzqsrbo I know, but I acted as if it was literal.

Aloy is young. Plenty young girls next door are more hot than her. Plenty are uglier too but in general she is not some amazing beauty unless you have a thing for redheads. She is not ugly but not really a beauty.

Well from my humble perspective she is quite attractive however i may have been a bit hyperbolic. I have seen better

+Lance Leander L. Cembrano What are you trying to prove in this comment section?

That she's a murderous bitch, obviously...

(talking about "lance", BTW. Nice fake male profile...)

Mr Dogbert As good as the game looks you shouldn't pre-order anymore. But it's your money, I can't tell you what to do.

lawl, fail.. noob in the comments

Peasant, LUL.

Void of Space and Time It doesn't matter who you are, no one cares what you have to say. If I want a game on day one, I preorder it. So far I've never regretted buying any game I've preordered before, and I doubt I will anytime soon considering breath of the wild is the most recent game I have preordered. I don't wait for reviews because I don't care what others think about a game. If I like it, that's literally all that matters. If I see a movie trailer that convinces to see a movie, I go see that movie.

Jackson Meade Reasons you are entirely wrong with your points - No Man's Sky, Almost all early access games, and plenty more that I remember the gameplay of, but can't name off the top of my head.

PRDibble I would take a bunch of squirrels disguised as a millionaire as long as the game's good

But muh masculinity and immersion

souldry no it would be The Iron Bull..hehe

It would also be Aloy

No it would be compound

Big Man Tiron

souldry Le-deshaunte Juan Small-Cock would be an interesting name.

LaMarque Drew Best RPG ever

I got into the game recently and put a good 80+ hours in. I really like the combat, but the narrative has only one admirable male character (SPOILERS) who is basically a retired, religious, John Wick. The rest are either amoral, evil, or cucks that could believably have a place in an HZD reverse harem fan fic.

@@zachsoto7621 I never had that impression that all the males were horrible. It was just bad dialogue distributed all around regardless of gender. This is compounded on the fact that the protagonist usually has to be the one who solves everybody's problems. Sometimes simply innocuous poor writhing can be misdiagnosed as a shitty gender agenda.

I dunno, that just feels like it's setting all of them up to be knocked down by the beacon of progressive morality that Aloy is. For no readily defined reason, given she's supposed to have been raised from birth by an extremely conservative Nora hunter and all.

@@CruelestChris People do rebel against their parents and their worldviews, but even more signifigantly Aloy played with the computer from a young age and who knows what sort of stuff was there to mold her mind...

@@markotark Yeah, but this is in a world where rebelling means being murdered by robots, so I'd expect her to be either dead or highly disciplined. And to be honest the whole scene with the Focus is bizarre since Aloy has no reason not to hand it over to him. He is literally the only person in the world she can trust, and I'd think he'd at least want to make sure it couldn't hurt her. Frankly, he should have introduced it as something he found on a hunt and taught her how to use it, this would give them some nice bonding moments rather than most of the childhood sections consisting of Aloy being a little shit. (Also it's questionable what she could have learned from the Focus given what happened to the APOLLO archive, though I could perhaps accept it might have data on it related to the job of the person she got it from)

I mean for games

Emmanuel Omoge unless their shit characters

Emmanuel Omoge Like the two legendary raiders of tombs, Nathan Drake and Lara Croft

Nerobyrne they should have made women weaker as well for proper realism. Also they should get paid maternity leave from war to raise their children.

OuroborosChoked i can somewhat agree that she is very much a mary sue at points, but i personally still really enjoy the story they got going on in my background, you know with what’s going on in the world and what happened there to make it what it was in her time. i also will say that being voiced by Ashley burch isn’t a turn off to everybody, i find her voice very good for the characters i’ve heard her play so far, like chloe and alloy, they’ve both kinda been turn ons for me tbh. but i’m a lesbian that kinda likes when voices are a bit softer in some ways but blunt in others, so it just might be me, hell if i know for sure.

Or a lack of them...

Void of Space and Time 6:36 AM

Void of Space and Time 11 in the morning in Ireland and England

HolyCrapGamer 12:40 in germany as of now.

Void of Space and Time 6 am but I saw the notification and woke up immediately to watch

Void of Space and Time 9 am in Brazil, great time to be awake.

Mostly in the newest trailers I see people complaining, just fanboys running out of reasons to damage control.

Rich of Cucumber Eater USA Mmph. Sarcasm I suppose?

Rich of Cucumber Eater USA pretty tru

Why would you want that, id love a world with no exclusives so we can play your amazing games and you can play our exclusives like counterstrike, lol, tabs etc

Rich of Cucumber Eater USA it's not on pc cuz Sony is to lazy to make the graphics amazing!

Fabian Putting no console gamer wants to play pc exclusives

Had to look up who that is. She looks like she can relate to them with those massive breasts.

Sniperabcxyz Same here, too much games, gonna wait for the price to go down

Sniperabcxyz :(

i need a terabyte

same, already got nier:automata coming sooo... (which is also features a women as the main character, but the girl talking in the video probably won't count that as she is "sexy" or cause you can see her panties...cause japan)

I can't fucking wait for Nier, the combat looks so good and the bosses look awesome.

Because it is? And this thing gets 9s and 10 atm from our unbias press. Where as mad max got 7s. All these two games are doing (from all i know about it) the same things. Nothing new, nothing original but all they have in them they adapt from games already on the market and are ok at. The very definition of mediocre and such a 5 on a balanced scale or 7 in the scale this retarded media views it.

Drunkard Hu I would rather play Gone Home than this game

Drunkard Hu Because the gaming community is running dry on creativity. It's either a survival, early access game or a futuristic shooter every fucking time. It's honestly depressing.

she looks like a teenage boy with round face (like MAD) and long hair

Now that is what I'd find more interesting than Horizon! SOmeone should make that.

Jonathan Thörn Wait about 20 years, its on my to do list.

So like wolf children with more action? Would actually be great.

Adam Sagehorn. But are you implying that men are only capable of working out problems through physical and conflictual means?

That doesn't sound like an feminist thing when old school RPGs allowed you to skip quite a few fights through talking, etc.

Agreed. Though imteresting how fewer and fewr games allow that... see fallout 4. Im just saying what a faction of feminist theorists desire to see. But feminism like all "isms" isnt one single belief. Some like to see women heroes as described in the video acting like male heroes. Some have no issue with women protagonists being powerful sexual creatures others see that as demeaning. Its one of the reasons that hollywood or the gaming industry are unable to cater to feminism because the bar keeps moving. The best thing in my opinion is for creators to make characters who act true to their history and motivations and change according to their experiences like everybody does and in that way avoid bad shallow stereotypes.

luckily the campaign takes a good few hours to complete, kind of annoying doing the protect and escort missions, I really need to play that game again

It depends on how you play, if you go in blazing, it'll probably be not as slow, but you need certain weapons to go in guns blazing, so yeah, really depends on choices

Having a strong female protagonist isn't a problem but when they make damn near every female in the game the same way the novelty kind of wears off not to mention while making most of the men either buffoonish or just down right evil they're definitely pushing female empowerment down out throats especially in Forbidden West

Bee Kay sniff sniff I smell... idiotic feminist talk

Max van Essen 11 in the morning in Ireland and England

Sorry that was meant for another comment

Lone Maverick um... she sounds more Australian than English. There is no British accent now cftu

It all sounds the same to me now. Also, ctfu? I think you missed the s, butterfingers. Unless that's some obscure feminist slang.

She sounds Swedish to me.

Lone Maverick British television is shit, that's why.

if you want to be mad at a British feminist and feminism in general read this: www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-39177510

TheDestinedHunter I think he's arguing that companies TRY to market games to specific demographics and make the decision of having male protagonists because they falsely assume it's super important.

That makes sense, but if we are mostly marketing to a male demographic, then could that be the cause for fewer women playing video games? Sure, it may not matter to the consumer if there is a male or female main character, but the fact that this happens shows that games are being marketed to the male gender more than the female gender. This could push away some females who are interested in the gaming community because fewer games are being created with them in mind. I do not blame the companies for doing this, as they are trying to market to the people who will play their games, but I am trying to point out that the way that they do market games can keep women out and men in. If all games were marketed to a woman audience, then there would probably be more women playing games than men.

TheDestinedHunter I think the influence marketing has on a product is vastly exaggerated. I think at best it can inform people that a product EXISTS, maybe even be the cause of a couple sales but ultimately if the product sucks, then it will be known. Fast. Now you are suggesting that maybe the reason not as many women are into video games because the marketing doesn't target them as a demographic. But you're going about it the wrong way. A marketing campaign (a good one atleast) already KNOWS which demographics their product appeals to and they cater their campaign to THOSE people. Because you wouldn't invest a lot of money into a demographic that isn't already naturally drawn to your product. Onto my other point. What do you suggest IS a game "made for women"? To me atleast, games are games. They're gender neutral. They just HAPPEN to attract guys more than girls because of what kinds of stimuli the different sexes generally find appealing. Just take Mortal Kombat for instance. I know plenty of girls who are into the series and love everything about it. But they're a minority of the fanbase. The game doesn't specifically go "Hey guys! Come play this game! Girls aren't allowed because they have cooties!". The devs just made a game they thought was appealing for them and released it into the wild. Then it either sticks or it doesn't. Today, video games are a multi BILLION dollar industry. Big companies make big games with big budgets in the hope of bringing in big money. What kinds of games make the most money? BIG SPECTACLE GAMES. Game launches that are EVENTS. It's basically the same formula as Hollywood. What brings asses to seats in movies? Is it really well done, thought provoking indie flicks? Or is it big event films like The Avengers or Twilight? Here we have a perfect example of something clearly marketed to women. The Twilight series. That made a lot of money, that brought seats into theatres. So has 50 Shades of softcore porn. BUT! So has The Avengers, so has Transformers, so has a bunch of movies that attract men and women alike. Why do I think you don't see that AS MUCH in video game industry? Because women get very attached to characters. You can have a cheap thrill action movie and still have compelling characters that will attract the female audience. But character depth and development is not the video game industry's forte. However, whenever a AAA game gets lots of female attention, it's usually those with compelling, well-develloped characters. And this is what I consider the main reason for why more guys are gamers than girls. Because video games, as a medium, do not require good characters in order to be a good game. Mechanically, you don't even need characters at all. And since games need a lot of money to make, the game mechanics probably take up more ressources. And justifiably so. That means the end product is, usually, more appealing to the male demographic. But! I will end my argument with this: Girls. Young women and teens especially, prefer face to face human interaction as their number one pastime. (after Netflix binge watching) socializing is THE most important thing in their lives. Whereas guys are perfectly content sitting un front of a tv playing a game for a couple of hours. Even better if friends can join in that hobby with them. Shared hobbies is usually how guys make friends in the first place.

bruh, you're either a gamer or youre not. The girl gamers that ive met in my lifetime have played whatever game appeals to them. Shit only reason my girl doesnt game is because she gets motion sickness. Think about an FPS, you cant even see the character. Like i said a gamer is a gamer, the concept as whole either interests you or it doesnt

Given a choice I tend to play as a female,and I have done that since Fallout

*spoilers* Really? So Sun-King Avad is "weak", or Erend, or Rost, or Sylens or whatever don't count?

@@the_last_chancer The Sun King comes across as whiny and/or shallow as he's first overly focused on finding his lover and then not so subtely offers Aloy her position when she dies. Erend spends his time either flirting with Aloy or being a sappy drunk going on about how much better his sister was and how she had to always look out for him. This is just from first impressions as he does improve AFTER his sister dies and he adopts a more serious role, but first impressions of him weren't what you'd consider the best. Rost kicks ass, plain and simple and went out like a boss. Sylens is what I'd consider the series secret (ingame) main antagonist so he naturally has to be made to be competent or he'd just be your typical Saturday morning cartoon villain. As my main point stated, when you first start playing the game it can be very easy to spot what could be construed as propaganda, but the game does do a good job explaining to you why things are the way there are. It's not the in your face, like it or be ostracised, kind of propaganda, but the kind that's done by someone who honestly loves video games and once to tell a good story from their perspective. Which isn't a bad thing. But then again it could just be people over thinking it which is a sad result of the current climate of feminists claiming that they're oppressed while they wield enough power to ruin people's lives. If that's them being oppressed heaven help us if they actually get power.

MOD Mudbox To see the numbers, you gotta pay for a 20 dollar DLC