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The only bad thing in this episode was watching Bill trying to fight the raiders while standing in the middle of the street without cover

It gets me how Bill know Joels a caring person and would trust him to protect Frank

Dude loaded his gat and went out there to get his man, badass.

What I like about this scene is before Frank even wakes up to the threat Bill is already out there rifle in hand. It’s great character building because not only does it show how sharp of a survivalist Bill is but the fact that he chose not to wake up Frank to take care of it solo shows he doesn’t want to worry Frank or risk him getting hurt in a firefight.

Bill standing out in the open completely exposed to gunfire has to be one of the stupidest things in this episode.

The way these 2 men were able to fill their lives with activities and even friends/associates was so beautiful. It was almost like paradise.

I think what people don’t understand is that bill was confident that he can shoot the raiders in a open space without cover because he thought he had a good fence/traps but instead he got hurt. Now if you see maybe the next time skip that’s why he has cars covering the fence now

I saw someone else comment this and I like it as an idea. Bill wasn’t in the house when the raiders set off the traps, instead he was likely already outside with his rifle doing anything from some night hunting to checking the perimeter for infected, when the raiders set off the traps he’s caught off guard and possibly even panics firing back at the raiders who aren’t on fire. I say this because if Bill was in the house he would have known that he had time to get to the bunker to get a better gun, he also would have sent Frank to hide down there, and he would have know it was raiders because of his cameras. Just an idea

I like this scene because it reminds us that no matter how safe Bill and Frank's town might seem, they're still living in a post-apocalyptic world. You almost forghet because of the comfort that they're liviing in. They've got a clean home, warm running water, fresh food and clean clothes. But Joel was obviously absolutely right earlier when he warned Bill that raiders would come, and they almost killed Bill.

Is it ever mentioned if Bill has training or ever even had to shoot at people like this? He seems very capable in setting up his compound (probably an engineer of some sort) and deep in the prepper/survivalist mentality but that doesn't mean he did any shooting/self defense training that would help him here. He has shown many times he is more willing to let people in or go (Frank and Joel) rather then kill them in the show. I expect he was really out of his element in this scene and didn't know what he was doing when it came to fighting people and figured he could just sit back and pick them off. Smart? No. But I expect a lot of people would do dumb things like this.

I explain this away as Bill spotted a deer near the compound on his monitors and quickly grabbed his rifle to go out and hunt it for the fresh meat. Look how he’s equipped. Hunting rifle, knife on hip, and his trusty old hunting hat on even though it’s night. Anyone who hunts should recognise that look. However, he was unaware that the deer was there because it had been spooked by the encroaching Raiders. Bill was then caught out as he was about to exit the main gate. With the defensive measures taking down most of the raiders Bill was focusing his fire on the few that posed an immediate threat before he could retreat to cover. I mean, if someone is raising their gun to shoot you it’s not an effective strategy to immediately seek cover. You eliminate the primary threat or threats, then seek cover, otherwise they’d just shoot you easily as you ran across the open ground. We’ve seen that Bill is an extremely poor runner. He’d probably have been fine if Frank hadn’t distracted him before he took out that last guy. Anyway, that’s my view. I mean, we’ve already seen that Bill goes out geared for war if he suspects there’s a true threat. Think of the scene where Bill meet Frank where Bill is well armed and extremely wary. I just feel it highlights that Bill had got a bit complacent after years of no true threats to the compound. I don’t feel it’s poor writing like others on this comment section.

When frank heard them gunshots it sounded like a war outside Bill was a one man army

Explain to me why the hell Bill would fire a scoped rifle from wide out in the open. He was practically begging to get shot.

I think this is Accurate bill might know how to build all the traps in the world and how to "Survive" but he's never been in actual combat or has any actual combat experience against REAL people the only thing he's probably shot and killed at this point were clickers and infected and his ego and lack of combat experience in a actual firefight throw in some adrenaline shows Loud and clear here as he doesn't take cover and uses a rifle that he probably normally used on infected thinking it would do the job just the same.

We all realize this is happens at least 7 years after the outbreak, if not 10. Bill has been dulled to what actual combat even is. He has settled down to quiet life in his compound living with Frank. When the buzzers went off he likely was walking out to see what was approaching not knowing it was finally raiders. He gets stuck in the middle of the street realizing there is a threat. He doesn't know how many there are, he probably thinks he has the upper hand. Long range rifle vs what appears to be shotguns and hand guns. He ultimately gets shot when he is distracted by Frank. I don't consider this a flaw or bad writing. I consider it a very real possibility from a man who has been in near isolation for 7-10 years, and is likely "cocky" of his abilities. Look at how he reacted when Joel told him his fence had maybe a year left on it. He doesn't think anything of anyone that isn't him ( but eventually Frank). Also look at his complete change after this in the time jump, he is an accepting man vs one that forges his own destiny.

It's really warming how, Bill was so resistant to becoming friends with or even trusting Joel and Tess, and denies it right to the end in his note, but this here shows how much he trusts them and unwittingly cares about them.

I love how they came exactly like Joel predicted too. I really wished we had more relationship building between Bill and Joel but I think these versions are so similar which bills note is going to be a big trigger for Joel at the end.

It's scenes like this that prove shows like this need an expert to explain why it's a bad idea to stand in the middle of the road in a bright white shirt when in a shootout. And Frank grabbed a little 32 acp pistol, great for Ellie and her small hands but come man

Big difference in being a survivor and a soldier

I love how Frank is the one that needs protecting. No toxic masculinity or expectation that he should just be able to take care of himself. Some people are built for survival & some aren't, regardless of gender. It's also just so sweet how Bill & Joel are hard asses, but that's how they show care.

Bill built a fortified town, traps, had hot water, gas, good amount of food and alcohol. Large amounts of weapons and ammo, he was the epitome of a survivalist and yet the man stood in the center of the street, with no cover just begging to be shot. The writers did him dirty.

Bill is giving Frank survival tips while he thinks he is dying and Frank doesnt even rlly listen, just wants to keep him talking so he doesnt pass out

survival skills : 10 combat skills : -10 sense of humor : 8

I love how he's just like "yeah the gas and the fence will kill the rest, we're good."

Why do they always just have people standing in the center of an open area during firefights? I get it for the Raiders since there is no cover except the vehicle but Bill had a rifle and several houses to snipe from. Kinda stupid tbh.

I love how the raiders are self-defeated by the traps, just absolutely decimated. He may not have even needed to be out there with how well the traps were BBQ'ing those guys lol.

this is one of those moments where joel can say to bill that" i told you so"

Entire armory in his basement and he picks the boomer deer hunting rifle? lmao HBO never change.

Frank just knows how to turn situations around - he is a beacon of light. Someone mentioned him as a "bipedal golden retriever" haha. I get that.

Hard to believe a trained individual like Bill would not fire from cover.

Bill could’ve been snipping them from his roof or from one of his windows but he wanted to stand on in the street like an idiot

Beside the lousy firing position, this ep highlights Bill's greatest mistake which most fans do not realize: the important of creating a community in the apocalypse. I mean if Bill has more people in his neighborhood, he could have survived the gunshot since he would receive help from other people quickly not just Frank and if anyone of them is doctor, his chance of survival would be increased even more. Furthermore, by having tons of people, bandits would least likely to attack since more people mean more manpower to guard the place from threat. The series shows that bandits are unwilling to attack a large communities

2:00 Robert Baratheon, is that you?

You know. With the music after Bill said “He’ll take care of you…” I genuinely thought he died. And I was in shocked. But no it’s fine for now. Dam, this scene made Bill badass, him standing in the middle of the road , no cover, nothing to be protected. Bill is the best

I like how when he was getting his gun frank was walking like how you do when you sneak in the game

Those fence flamethrowers was so badass .

the biggest plot twist was this scene, cause normally you watch these shows and one person doesnt make it, its always a cliche except his time they suberveted our expectations and they both made it to the very end

1:46 "I'm just gonna stay angry, I find that relaxes me"

I always loved this scene. I know a lot of arm chair quarterbacks in the comments are pointing out the error of Bills ways and I can totally see that thinking but it's still a great scene. It was totally in line with what I would think Bill would do in that situation. I loved their storyline so much.

Bill used to be a national parks ranger and manager of a towns parks and recreations services when the apocolypse came his ex wife became a raider warlady and sent her men to claim her ex husband

never leave cover or concealment

home alone a whole town sounds like the perfect way to survive a zombie apocalypse

Thats one hell of a security system.

Couldn’t believe they survived that night.

Bill needed some night vision goggles and a vantage point on top of his roof.

Awe man he’s like call joel you can’t be here alone. Actually made tear up cuz he knows how will help frank if he dies.

In my opinion this was the one bad part about this episode, just didn’t seem intense enough. Something that could’ve made this scene better was probably bill actually taking cover or even a raider that got past the traps and snuck up behind Frank when he was treating Bill’s wounds and Frank having to fight him off

911 during apocalypse.. "Call Joel..!"

Fighting off armed raiders bent on killing you with a bolt action rifle and standing in the middle if the street in a white shirt. I could believe this, even fir a hard core prepper , if it’s taking place in New Jersey

I just wanna note; Bill has an entire wall of firearms. Including.. an FAL. And of all the weapons he chooses to fight with, it’s the crappy bolt action rifle instead of the semi automatic battle rifle built for that very purpose. Bill deserved what he got.

keep it going awesome azz show!

1:48 stop at this,you see rick grimes 🤣

Shows he actually failed to plan or think in how he fought standing in the open in the middle of the street. Unless he secretly just wanted it to be over.

Ive got to love the fact bill was going to let frank just sleep through this

In the morning, Frank checked the fences, reset the traps, collected weapons and tools from the raiders.

nvr noticed this is the gun ellie takes

A man that smart, cautious, and prepared would not stand in the wide open like that. There's no way.

Bill standing off and firing at the enemy is above board.

Thst's where you keep your gun in the apocolypse

Bolt action? An Uzi 9mm would’ve given him an upper hand in this situation...

Full armory and the man grabs a bolt gun....

Do you think Joel told the raiders about the location? Win, win. If Bill and Frank are gone he gets his cut. If not Bill buys the supplies from him.

I mean, the moment the flamethrowers lights up, I'd tell my guys to just pack it up and go xD It's like the bad guys from Home Alone that keeps on trying despite being outmatched right away :P

Which episode was this?

This would never happen to video game Bill

My theory is that I believe Bill was tired that is why he left the list the keys and the information about Joel. That's why he stood out during the middle of the street with a bolt-action just seeing how many kapop off before they ended his life, I believe he was just tired.

bill being in the middle of the street was dumb but everything else has good. The raiders screaming while being burned alive and the music all reminded me of the action sequances of part 2 which i really liked.

Designs elaborate traps to take out intruders; stands in the middle of the street with no cover when firing at intruders.

Bill had a rifle capable of hitting targets at long distances accurately and the defence advantage... WHY WAS HE OUT IN THE OPEN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET?!

Haha i love all the traps bill has made its like ww3 when the raiders start setting them off lol

Yeh ya know those guys that were so overly cautious they spent years prepping, only to stand out in the open when it goes down.

I wonder why bill was using a bolt action rifle, maybe he was going to do some night hunting for deer. But then the raiders came I would think if he was not hunting then he would have been using an automatic rifle.

HFS not only did he burn alive but he was also electrocuted at the same time ooooof

I guess the raiders are the same guys from video game version the Marauders/Bandits where they invade Tommy’s Dam. I think the has to wait.

ron has battle rifles yet grabs a 5 shot bolty to defend his love from Tammy 2s raiders

That’s a fitting end to Ron Swanson

He never would have battled that way.

Bill would have had an armored sniper nest. 1+" of steel, if not more.

I know alot of ppl think phil was dumb to try fight out in the open but the fence was assisting in distracting them for him to pick em off quick

He had an AK 47 on his gun wall, and he went outside with a hunting rifle...

Frank distracted Bill. Bill got shot. Thanks Frank.

This episode was fantastic, but as anyone who has ever left a Dewalt appliance out in the rain even once can tell you there is no way those grinders would still be working.

I see Tom Haverford shot Ron Swanson again.

no tac vest bolt action instead of AR for close combat with multiple targets standing full height, white shirt, in the middle of the open (instead of getting cover) what the actual?.. He supposed to be well-trained. Am I missing something here?

Bill would never stand in the street with no cover under direct fire. wtf.

Despite Bill's wariness of Joel and overall cautiousness when it came to strangers, I think deep down he knew he was a good person even after Frank opened him up to getting to know new people

Pouring alcohol or vodka onto a new wound just sucks. Can't imagine that.

I think having g a high powered weapon like that could do a lot of damage to those raiders

as well prepared as Bill was I'm surprised he didn't create a sniper lookout on his roof for this eventuality. Also, standing in the middle of the street to shoot the raiders with no cover is also not consistent with his "survivalist" personna

I get they thought it was probably a cool shot of him in the street with the rain(which it is) but it doesn’t make sense that he would stand out in the open for so long. The way they filmed that could have been better. Had he been standing behind the telephone pole at least it would have been fine.

Where are the home-made Claymores?

man why didnt he just roofcamp with a sniper and thermal vision

The gun Frank takes is the same gun Ellie takes later.

All that prep and he doesn’t understand cover. Lol

I wonder If bill and Frank eat some of the raiders afterwords, with some red wine of course..."Someone who pairs crispy raiders with a bourglious"

all these smart guys in here thinking survivalist = tactician . Just because Bill knows how to survive doesn't mean he's combat trained, yall.

I think he was that exposed because he was finishing the job and killing the remaining raiders. He get shot when he saw Frank. Got distracted instead killing the three guys he was pointing.

The only thing more scary the zombies are violent humans

Bill picks a hunting riffle instead of an assault rifle? With all the gear he has?