True that ,the laws of physics will trump your obstinacy every time.

True..some poeple just like🤔

NO PARKING. Violators will be towed by train.

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LMAO !!! good one !

The Apple Doesn't Fall Far From The Tree

Thank you. why is that so hard for people to understand?

"I'm sure that railroad was there long before the street was put in." ?? most certainly not - many railroads in the US were put into existing streets.

Schuyler Street was there first, although those tracks have been there since the 1860S. The DL&W put those tracks in when starting their branch southbound and eventually down to Binghampton.

Or the street was there before the railroad. Much of this *dates back to a time in our history* when trains moved much slower and towns wanted trains close for convenience. For many towns, the railroad replaced the stagecoach, wagon trains, and cargo pulled by horses. Towns worked hard to attract the railroad, which helped the towns to grow from the revenue generated by passenger and cargo traffic along with new residents. The railroads benefited from the increased stops for food, water, fuel, and additional passengers.

H.M. Müller doesn’t really matter the train still has the right of way.

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How many are there of them in the US?

I have not driven by here in a while, I think they might have taken down the old watchtower, but if you like street trains you would have liked this. lite987.com/railroad-watch-tower-in-utica/

Jaw Tooth sucks there is less now...

MoreMBTA. That’s a good thing! There will be less car/train related accidents in the future!

when they happen they aren't too bad, and a street runner is something special. If you saw a street runner in real life you'd understand

Utica has been called a lot of things, but never a Norman Rockwell painting.

Well, George Stephenson did perfect the steam locomotive in 1825, long before the advent of the automobile...

Or you could just point out that trains (obviously) can't divert away from the tracks and take a long time to stop, so they should automatically be given right of way.

Thanks, glad you liked the video!

Jeez I would love to see a list of all these street trains. I would certainlt make a point in trying to see a street train one day.

Sure, but where are they going to get a functioning Lima Locomotive Works Berkshire? They'd have to ship 1225 over from the Great Lakes area.

There's a section of street trackage I know of in Anaheim where they painted yellow lines warning cars to stay away, it's pretty effective.

Problem is, who would pay for the paint? The railroad is really the only one who would benefit from it, so are they going to pick up the tab for it? I prefer the "plow-through" solution. Usually, yes the railway has the right-of-way, but I don't know the history of (when) this railroad was laid and when the street/road went in. It's nice that they gave the motorist a chance, but the pr!ck sure enough took his sweet-ass time about it.

Yeah, I don't really blame the car owner. Not everyone knows exactly how wide a train in motion is and it doesn't look like there's much in the way of signage or paint telling people how/where to park. If the streets were better cleared of snow there would also be a little more room for people to make sure they are parked well away from the tracks. This is just poorly maintained and signed infrastructure, the railway and the city need to spend the minor amount of money and effort to improve things.

I pretty much agree with you Jarren. THis is an unusual situation and given the snow and lack of understanding the rail line is active perhaps it was just an honest mistake.

Stan Patterson - "who would pay for the paint?" The paint would cost about $500.00 and the legal battle deciding who would pay for it would cost about $500,000.00 !!

The city of NY did away with all street level trains in 1941 because so many people were killed by freight trains rolling about walking speed with bells ringing etc., even when the railroad hired cowboys on horseback to ride ahead of the engines waving a large red flag and shouting, the space cadets would STILL wind up under the wheels!!! 10th Ave where a track was, was nicknamed "Death Avenue" The big push came to ban the trains after a kid playing some game with friends climbed on a moving train and fell under the wheels and was ground into hamburger, the last cowboy on horseback leading the train run on 10th Ave was George Hayde on 3-29-1941 with his horse "Cyclone" and the tracks were removed. By 1908, the Bureau of Municipal Research claimed that since 1852, the trains had killed 436 people. A New York Times piece from the same year reported that in the preceding decade there had been almost 200 deaths, mostly of children. The city did, however, take certain precautions in the 1850s, setting an ordinance requiring a person on horseback to ride ahead of the train, making pedestrians and traffic aware of the train's nearing arrival. Known as West Side Cowboys, these legendary figures waved red flags and lanterns to warn those on street level. But these urban cowboys could not keep the hazard at bay, and the tracks remained a danger for city residents. In the late 1800s, neighborhood pressure resulted in the tracks further uptown moving below street level. South of Grand Central, however, the trains remained, and various incidents set off a series of protests against the street-level tracks. In 1894, a man who had lost a leg in an accident caused by the train set fire to a portion of the tracks, and in 1897, thieves took to the cars. Finally, in 1908, the death of a seven-year-old boy sparked mass action, as five-hundred people took to the streets to protest the hazardous conditions. In addition to the public discontent, the city pressured the railroad company to change its practices, ultimately refusing to accept the railroad's licensing fee in 1908. This tactic could not work for long, however, as the railroad was responsible for much of the food supply to the city, running along meat warehouses and grocery outlets. www.thehighline.org/blog/2015/10/22/the-history-of-death-avenue A video of a train rolling down the avenue with a cowboy in front appears here www.livinthehighline.com/the-original-urban-cowboy/

Great info, thanks for posting!

Victorian Sculptures hey, an interesting comment on youtube

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No. I dont think it's the drivers fault here. We need to have a chat with whom ever created this road way and thought this was safe.

There's no hard-and-fast schedule. My office is near the tracks in South Utica so when a northbound goes by, it's an easy run for me over to Schuyler Street. Generally, the Susquehanna moves south on Schuyler anywhere between 9-1 (usually 9-11) and will return 1-5 (usually mid-afternoon). Sorry, that's the best I can do. Glad you liked the video.

@@railroadingrambler218 Is there a bakery or cereal mill near there? Those look like grain cars,

The telephoto zoom makes it very hard to judge distances.

Yeah, I suppose that must be it... I've seen it before in other videos, but in this case it seemed to be rather close, he just zoomed out a little and then stopped. The weird perspectives usually show up at more extreme distances (or with more extreme lenses)... or at least so I thought.

That's exactly what I was thinking, too. Then the guy comes out and moves the car and I thought "You'd better get your buddy with the red car out there to move his, too," and then...two toots on the horn and we're rolling again.

Yeah me too. I thought both cars were well out the way. So did the drivers I guess

At notch 8, there are no obstacles! Only temporary targets!

Full speed ahead!!

good one!

he must have voted for Obama and Hilary

Philippe Riopel Utica NY is loaded with them unfortunately.

well,nowadays that's PC'ing it.

Maybe there was something on TV that he just couldn't tear himself away from.

Utica is already down the tubes as is every other big city in Upstate NY.

As were most communities in the US and Canada

I believe the railroad tracks were originally part of the street car line. When the street cars used the line that added value to the homes on the line. As the city grew factories shared the rails. All of Utica has been in decay for a long time.

Those street car lines could not have been used by the railroads without significant upgrades.

Utica, NY has been around since 1750. Urban mass transit via rails came along one hundred years later during the industrial revolution. This locomotive traveling down a city street is more a product of urban evolution out of necessity than urban planning.

And in NY State under Cuomo, pay more than $10,000 a year in property taxes.

Bath salts, today? The city is a crime filled dump today.

@Ray C Tide pods may explain it.

It was a safe move on the car driver's part. The distance to the train and the train's slow speed allowed for the sharing of the road.

Not if you live on that street.

Yes, Rev, it's me, lol. Glad you found the Mother Ship! Also, if you're on Facebook, there's a lot more CNY/Utica material on my FB group, also, imaginatively enough, named Railroading Rambler.

And the RR will pay the damages on that one.

At a fire in the old Montréal, a fire truck had to shove police cruisers to get to the fire! It's on KZfaq.

That is OK because the same municipality that owns the fire trucks owns the police cars!

@@pisciatto4385 no its only okay because it was an act to respond to an emergency efficiently.

And when it gets covered up with snow?

@Joe Mayesky The Puget Sound region is annoying. I moved there early in 2006 because of as girlfriend who relocated to be near her daughter. It took me about three days to figure out what messed up society you have there. Your thought processes, bro, are a symptom of the disease. Just so you know, railroads are where they are. They are not "tucked" anywhere. Development follows the patterns it does because of topography. In central Kent, for example, the railroads are right in the middle of everything because it is flat land and the town grew up around the railroads. In other cases, railroad are located in places a railroad would never be allowed to be built today, such as, along the waterfront in Everett or through the middle of Marysville. Or around the waterfront in Tacoma. You are seriously delusional, though unfortunately typical. The liberal elites thrive off of fools like you.