4:07 the stonework shown is specifically from the either side gable of Harwich House facing onto Bishopsgate at Liverpool Street Station. There are also some brick ‘Lunettes’ depicting workers performing railway related tasks from the old East side train shed - a few have survived into the reconstructed Liverpool Street by the war memorials whilst others were transferred to Fawley Hill.

It does appear to be a building finial possibly from Bishopsgate removed or fallen from the fire in the 1960s or in the redevelopment as Bruce mentioned in the 1980s

How do you even know this?! Great knowledge.

@@v_0There’s a series of books called London’s Railway Heritage. There are bits of old Liverpool Street Station spread around. Some of the old ironwork is outside Frinton Station on the Essex Coast. Others are in Mangapps museum near Southminster.

@@v_0 I was there, when it was done ! I was working for Network South East (Great Eastern Division) when Liverpool Street station was modernised, and they relocated some of the fancy stonework and brick work here. If you look left, when descending the Up Electric Line (nearest to the former Shoreditch tube station), you can see some, but the site is overgrown and vandalised. Shame.

As a Gamesmaker I appreciate your efforts very much! I was working in the Olympic stadium (on the scoreboard no less!) for the Paralympics. I didn't mind getting security checked every time I came in and the snipers guarding the site were a welcome sight, especially on the 40th Anniversary of the Munich attack.

@@hairyairey It was a great thing to be involved with, no temptation to 'accidentally' post other messages on the scoreboard? I still avidly await annual yellow snow warnings . . .

@@coop_coop007 The scoreboard was actually quite simple, text only. But yes we could have put custom text on there. That was Omega's last event with a monochrome scoreboard. One night I was in the stadium with tickets. The scoreboard brightness needed turning down as the sun set so I texted my Omega colleague to remind him!

"ne'er do well's" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

That sounds remarkably fast honestly.

Thank you for this. I did wonder why Shoreditch High St. station is such a bunker whilst being elevated.

Interesting theory, but was "hospital" really an old name for cemetery?

I was waiting for the sponsor message

Yeah, the kind of thing where you have a specific breadmaker, and Granary Box periodically delivers new artisan flour and yeast combinations for you to have different bread every week!

I shall hold Jago personally responsible when, if the next time I drive into town in my old oil burner, my wing mirrors are forcefully removed by some young turk elbowing his way past on a scooter or battery encrusted electric velocipede festooned with an insulated box emblazoned with the ad "Granary Box".

@@stashedawayman1521 now then that's a cracking idea I might do it, plenty of muppets who will buy dry hard over priced bread. 😁

Or a breakfast cereal delivery service

I honestly thought you'd done a video on them 😅

I think perhaps that the other ones on the same site are also from Broad Street Station...

My ex-MIL used to work in a biscuit factory. She once told me that they would regularly have to evacuate the site because there was too much flour in the air and there was a high chance of an explosion.

Most mills will have big flappy doors in the floor/ceiling between each floor through which sacks of grain were hoisted up to the top level to begin the gravity fed process of cleaning and milling the flour. Almost more important than the access, these flappy doors also acted as an (almost) unrestricted escape route for any explosion straight up and out through the roof, should any spark ignite the dust in the air on any of the levels.

In my native Illinois the grain elevators occasionally exploded. Less common nowadays but not impossible. A boyhood acquaintance died by falling into the grain in one and suffocating, less spectacular but too often as deadly as it was in his case.

During my flame-proof and explosive training in the gas industry we were told that flour mills were probably the one of the most hazardous environment anywhere, even worse than coal mines or the gas industry. Therefore the standards for such things as light switches and electrical equipment in flour mills are more stringent than in those aforementioned industries.

The Mill City Museum in Minneapolis, MN is built in the ruins of a flour mill that exploded.

The Truman Brewery in London E1, did have its own railway.

I hope it provides much joy and positivity.

Ah yes. They walk among us..

You mean a "Mixed Development" creator? :P

No more glass boxes and random plastic composite cladding and “affordable” luxury! Humanity’s suffered enough.

@Vasili Timonen Springfield, Springfield it's a hell of a town. The schoolyards up and the shopping malls down...

Ask a railwayman. Happy to help.

Yes, and at least someone decided not to trash them!

Maybe something from a church or a cementury? Sometimes they copie the top of a churchtower to put it somewhere as a low creativity monument.

This was my thought too

Nope. It came from the roof, when Liverpool Street was rebuilt 1986.

His wit is never just a flash in the pan....

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They came off Liverpool Street station when it was redeveloped @ 1986.

Drinking fountain?

@@jimboyd1277 Nope. Roof ornament.

Perhaps the lines are just buried under tarmac?

They probably are just buried. Near where I live in Chicago a streetcar track, last used a long about 1950 periodically re-appears when the street gets potholes. They simply pave over and repeat the cycle.

There is also a short section of track in the Spitalfields City Farm

@@nonibbs Decent odds of that. Here in Seattle when they do street rebuild (rather than just patching), or install new light rail they often have to uncover then remove old brick streets and street car and or interurban commuter lines that connected Everett in the north to Tacoma in the south about 60 miles) a network of two or three lines (depending on how you count mergers and ownership groups).

@@johnplampin7274 Most of Chicago's streetcar system was just paved over. The last streetcar (tram) ran in June of 1958. Many routes were already paved over at the time. My dad says that most of Clark Street (a major street for those reading this who haven't been there) was not paved over till about 1967! If you took all the miles of track laid in the system from start to finish, and had them all available to use at once - I'm told it would have been the largest system in mileage in the world. Alas, since the mid to late1990's the city has more completely re-done roads, instead of simply paving over - pulling up streetcar track in the process. Till that time, pretty much all of the system remained under modern pavement - missing a few feet here and there where track was dug up for utility work in the streets.

I don't know whereabouts in Enfield you mean, but there used to be a connecting line at Brimsdown to take coal to the power station a few hundred yards to the east. When I look at old maps of where I live now, near Reading, there were many branches off the local lines to all sorts of industries. I try looking for any remains now but mostly without success.

@@MrDavil43 I’m not sure if it was the old line to brimsdown. There’s an old railway bridge across the Lea and another across one of the canals that lead into where the small arms factory was. I’m going to look at some maps see if i can work out where the crossing was

I’m just wondering if I may be thinking of a road along the route of the old line that branched off just north of Angel Edmonton station, nr the north circular and headed north west to Enfield? That crossed some roads. I just found out Angel Edmonton station is no more!

@@MrDavil43 must be the industry that is now where the likes of tesco and mcdonalds are

@@captaincodpiece3263 Ah, now I remember that line. When my mother took me shopping in Edmonton as a young kid I would hang around by the level crossing gates right by the shops in the hope of seeing something use that line (it was the original line to Enfield). Just once a diesel of D82xx type trundled along with what must have been a permanent way train.(1958 I think) I was so excited! Soon afterwards the line was taken up, and as you say, not a trace remains.

The Up Main and Down Main tracks at Bow were originally further over. You can still today see a disused viaduct which is overgrown with buddleia, if you know where to look. The land which the current Up Main and Down Main tracks stand on, was originally a ramp down to street level. Between Liverpool Street and Stratford there were three or four disused stations, if you have got a pre-1970 London A to Z map, it even shows the remains. Of course, there was also a line, below the GEML running north to south, to Old Ford Road, from Victoria Park (now Hackney Wick station) to Devons Road Depot, which was the first in Britain to get an allocation of diesel locos (Class 20s). Much of the Mile End sand traffic came from Marks Tey (near Colchester).

@@vicsams4431 Devons Road wasn't the first depot to be allocated diesels but was the first to be converted from steam to 100% diesel.

@@rayfisher3921 Perhaps, I omitted the word 'mainline'. The Class 08, pre-dated the Class 20.

@@vicsams4431 The 20s weren't the first mainline diesels. If we ignore shunters LMS 10000 of 1947 could be considered the first, though preceded by the Armstrong Whitworth experimental loco of 1933 as well as the GW diesel railcars also introduced from 1933. As I said, Devons Road is significant as the first steam depot to be converted fully to diesel, which I think is what you were referring to.

@@rayfisher3921 Okay. First 'production series' diesel loco. Experimental locos and karts don't count.

Nice to hear a chap from across The Pond value railways, sorry, railroads. I have done Toronto to New York, New York to St Albans (Vermont), the entire Alaska Railroad, the White Pass & Yukon, plus every line in Canada (except one). Regards, from London, England.

@@vicsams4431 Originally, they were called railways but when they became railroads I don't know. I'm going to assume it was when there was a movement to change all our spellings to differentiate "American" English which took place in the early 19th century when we dropped vowels in common words such as colour and swapped some around such as in theater instead of theatre, although that one is still used today. Anyway, railway though has become part of corporate names instead and sometimes a company, a railroad/railway will change its name from a railway to railroad or vice versa. It's sad isn't it to see what's been ripped up all over and there are plenty of us here that value our rails. A lot more than what many think and we fight like crazy to keep the NIMBYs from ruining everything. I'm glad you enjoyed your trips over here. I have yet to ride the rails out in the west and have only done Boston (also north of Boston to Boston) to Philadelphia and Boston to Florida with a change in New York City.

@Vasili Timonen Yes, I've noticed that too with "street railway" but that's not always true but then again, it's mostly true. I suppose that it depended upon their aspirations of becoming a bigger empire. ;-) Check out some of the big companies such as the Chicago, Northshore and Milwaukee. (Get ready for a box of tissues too.) The Penn Central was one of the saddest corporate messes to ever come about. Without going into details and taking up pages, they were a merger of two big companies that hated each other. The Pennsylvania and the New York Central. The "Hartford" railroad you mention was the New York, New Haven, and Hartford (New Haven). This ran between its namesake cities and was innovative in electric power, and its mainline makes up a portion of the current day Northeast Corridor. The New Haven (NH) was hacked and sacked many times and the final president went to jail when he did the same to the Boston and Maine. He got caught selling the new streamliner for scrap and pocketing the money! I highly recommend reading about the company and its innovations. It's sad how the rich used the company as a play toy. They were a friendly rival to the Boston and Maine (more about them briefly below), and worked with the B&M to electrify the Hoosac Tunnel with future plans but due to JP Morgan and his shenanigans that ended. This company was merged into the Penn Central and PC's management did whatever they could to kill it again because the NH was competitor that took business away from the PC by routing the freight traffic off their lines via competitors. When the Poughkeepsie Bridge burned, a major link across the Hudson River, that killed the through traffic on the line and basically the railroad. The PC became Conrail and continued to do the same to the competitors the Erie Lackawanna, and the Lehigh Valley, and the management moved on to destroy other companies... Our local railroad became Guilford Transportation Industries. A holding company that busted unions and ran everything to the bones. Their owner was Timothey Mellon from Mellon Bank. His VP running the show was David Fink. Fink came from the Penn Central. Fink and crew destroyed the Maine Central, Delaware and Hudson, and the Boston and Maine. Like the PC, mainlines were down to 10 mph or less outside of commuter territory, and there were standing derailments where freight cars (wagons) fell off the tracks in the yards. As you said, names changed when companies bankrupted and reformed. Guilford, after destroying everything, changed its name to Pan Am Railways. After they bought up the holding of Pan Am Airlines. They ran an airline operation briefly but that was forced to shut down due to poor maintenance just like their rail railway.

@@Clavichordist Very probably. Sadly America and Britain are not alone in ripping up tracks. It is fairly universal. Hopefully when we discover high speed rail, America and Britain will see a revival.

@Vasili Timonen Thank you.

Nope. Off the roof of Liverpool Street. Moved there in 1986.

The platform to Bishopsgate Low Level is adjacent to the Up Electric Line and is accessed by a flight of steps, and Bishopsgate Upper Level is above the Up & Down Suburban Lines. When they installed the bridge for the East London Line, they also dug under the tracks to install a concrete box, to facilitate switching the Electric Line services to Platforms 1 to 9 on the west of the station. If you look under the raft off the end of Platform 1, you can see metal clips already in situ for the OHLE. I spent 16 working on East Anglia railways (GE, West Anglia, LTS, Intercity, Regional Railways) before moving to Euston HQ, as the National Operations Standards Manager in charge of GB railway operations. The only train I have driven was a six axled electric loco, called a V63 / 630 / Gigant in Hungary. The driver insisted I take over driving, and it seemed rude to refuse. That is my excuse, and I am sticking to it. LOL ! I have also operated the vacuum brake on a Class 105 DMU, in BR service, but that is another story, and one I cannot tell on the internet.