No video

Raketenwerfer 43 'Puppchen': German Over-Engineering At Its Finest

  Рет қаралды 10,113

Our Own Devices

Our Own Devices

Күн бұрын

Like what I make? Want fewer sponsorship ad reads? Consider contributing to my Patreon at / ourowndevices
The Raketenwerfer 43, affectionately known by German troops as the "Puppchen" ("doll"), was an antitank rocket launcher introduced in 1943 to bolster the average infantryman's anti-armour capability. Built like a miniature artillery piece complete with trail, wheels, and splinter shield, it fired a fin-stabilized, rocket-propelled shaped-charge warhead similar to that used in the RPzB 43 "Panzerschreck." Around 3,000 were produced before it was realized that the weapon was over-engineered and expensive for its role, and production was halted in favour of the cheaper Panzerschreck and Panzerfaust.

Пікірлер: 54
@Easy-Eight
@Easy-Eight Жыл бұрын
Air density does not affect the round as much as the cold propellant. We have this problem on modern rockets and artillery. Propellant is less reactive the colder it gets. That's why there is a range table on the shield of the gun. We have exactly the same thing in the artillery: it's called a TFT. That's a tabular firing table.
@CanadianMacGyver
@CanadianMacGyver Жыл бұрын
Interesting! I had not considered that. Thank you so much for your insight :)
@SCjunk
@SCjunk 10 ай бұрын
@@CanadianMacGyver both Panzer Shrek and Panzerfuaust had similar temperature related problems -. These weapons all had weather dependant range issues specially due to the huge temperature changes on the Russian front -neither being around during the north african campaign. The Panzer faust were actually stenciled with optimum temperature characteristics - sort of "use by date" and added to logistical nightmare of ensuring Panzer Faust and Shreks optimised for winter and Lapland service didn't end up in an Italian summer -although one of my uncles said an Italian summer wasn't that great in 1944. Propellant variability was especially a problem in rockets (it also effected 15 cm Wurfegranate 41 (Nebel Werfers ) and others 28 and 32 cm Wurfkorper and 30 Wurfkorper 42 (again in tropicalised format) all used ethylene glycol di-nitrate sticks bunched around a standard Cellulite igniter stick, (a case of using what was available rather than optimum) and again Tropical and Russian winter use, manufacture was required -which again was burdensome logistically. However the Glycol nitrate mixtures produced a lot less smoke than comparative cordite based rockets such as US 4.5 inch and Soviet Katyusha rockets -The German manufactured a copy of the Soviet 82 mm rocket, and in particular the parallel SS weapon procurement produced in some numbers. Obviously the SS cared less about the tatctical advanage of not making smoke, something still apparent with fanatical actors on the batlefield, death cults have remarkabvle longevity. There is also a downside with all RCLs which Germans were early adopters for FSG troops in particular, such as the 7.5 cm LG 40. Because they were open tubes Newtons law kicks in requiring a disproportunate amount of propelant to give a resonable range, that didn't bother the US very much but it was a problem for Germany and may have been some of the design criteria behind Pupchen -the closed breech allowed saving in propellant hence the shorter rocket. This may also had been the logic behind the British PIAT developed at time when manufacturing in UK was at a financial and logistic preimium -so also had to husband their resources -but not to the same extent as Germany. Anyhow great videos. 🤍
@Treblaine
@Treblaine 10 ай бұрын
Any particular reason warming of the propellant isn't practical? I suppose you could never know what temperate it really was whereas one at ambient temperature would be reliably and homogeneously the same as same as a dry bulb temperature.
@Easy-Eight
@Easy-Eight 10 ай бұрын
@@Treblaine *Any particular reason warming of the propellant isn't practical?* For some reason the idea of applying heat to propellant brings up the possibility of very unhappy side effects. Left over propellant was burned at the firing location after training and it could melt sand into glass. *I suppose you could never know what temperate it really was* Strange, the US Army gave us a propellant thermometer with a probe that was stuck in the propellant and it worked just fine.
@markrix
@markrix 9 ай бұрын
Woo
@GothAlice
@GothAlice 8 ай бұрын
"This is a Raketenwerfer; it werfs raketen." My mother's Dutch. I still LOL'd. English is a Germanic language, after all, so yeah; makes sense. I once saw a military vehicle… name… that was a complete description of its capabilities down to number of troops transported and number (and calibre) of mounted machine guns and that it could lay mines or tracks and even construct small bridges. And was armoured with a specific quality of plate. As a noun. That covered three novel-sized pages.
@GexMax
@GexMax 10 ай бұрын
I am somewhat late to the comment party but nevertheless - first of all, great video (just recently discovered your channel and been binging quite a bit!). Now while I'm by no means an expert on this gun/rocket system I am german and I believe there was a bit of a potential misunderstanding when it comes to the Range Table in particular the "Haltepunkt". I might be wrong but I believe this rather refers to the (Vor)haltepunkt, vorhalten in this case referring to leading a target. The Range Table shows the target moving at different speeds with the distance of the Haltepunkt increasing with highers speeds. At the same time I'm sure they also tried to show where best to hit a T34 so I guess its a bit of both Worlds. Hope that gave some added insight into our sometimes complicated language :)
@hmpeter
@hmpeter 9 ай бұрын
Yes, Haltepunkte in general means "point of aim". The top tank on the table has the word "Treffpunkte" in it. That fits more his interpretation as "stopping points". So, aim at your Haltepunkte, hit your Treffpunkte. ;-) Even with gravity drop of the projectile and everything directly in the example. That is a very nice table, someone tool quite some effort to make it clear and understandable.
@sangomasmith
@sangomasmith 10 ай бұрын
Temperature affects how fast the rocket motor burns - changing how much thrust it is generating
@kimmoj2570
@kimmoj2570 Ай бұрын
Germans made special winter ammunition for Panzeschreck. The rocket propellant fired at lets say -15 celsius, vs +30 celsius gives much less V0. Winter ammo was loaded hotter, to give roughly same performance as "normal" ammo.
@owlwithahowl7798
@owlwithahowl7798 8 ай бұрын
Late to the party but Haltepunkt in this regard does not literally mean stopping point as is more aim at that area point. It is still used in German hunting language and probably the armed forces. Because halt means stop halten means holding. So the word for word translation would be holding point. Though yes in this regard it would still equate to stopping the vehicle. I definitely see why there was a mix up because it is a very minute detail. The video was amazing though! The video of the soldiers cruising around in the Goliath was gold.
@peoplesauce
@peoplesauce 9 ай бұрын
It's an older meme, Sir, but it checks out. 😆
@jp-um2fr
@jp-um2fr 8 ай бұрын
PS, Sorry this is a tad off-topic, but I had the urge ? Just watched (after downloading, which is VERY rare on any YT vid for me) your video on submarine escape gear and I just have to say 'credit where credit is due'. I cannot fault your presentation in ANY way. It's so nice to sit back and know what's coming is worth watching. I only found your channel a short time ago, and already you are third from the top on the list. It will be No1. My only hope is that you don't put adverts in the middle, somehow I don't think you will. OK, back to the video above - take care and best regards.
@killpidone
@killpidone 2 жыл бұрын
Stay strong Gilles
@nightwaves3203
@nightwaves3203 10 ай бұрын
Temperature on the ranging placard would be for taking into effect the powder temperature of of the projectiles charge used for firing.
@frankthetank1485
@frankthetank1485 9 ай бұрын
„Haltepunkt“ is rather translated to „Holding point“ than to „Stopping point“
@extragoogleaccount6061
@extragoogleaccount6061 9 ай бұрын
As in “hold your sights here”? So slightly different context than “hit this spot to stop the tank”
@Rig0r_M0rtis
@Rig0r_M0rtis 10 ай бұрын
This is the Raketen werfer. It werfs Raketen.
@kleinweichkleinweich
@kleinweichkleinweich 10 ай бұрын
'nough said!
@kleinweichkleinweich
@kleinweichkleinweich 10 ай бұрын
this is a Haltepunkt it halts punkts very blunt and to the point (pun intended)
@jamesberry3230
@jamesberry3230 8 ай бұрын
stop with your bullshit attempts at "humor"
@sebekglab
@sebekglab 9 ай бұрын
Nitrocelulose or black powder burn with significant different speed depending of its temperature. Different speed of burn means different ratio of gases produced and different velocity of shot influencing ballistic arc. Hence correction table for temp. Adjustment.
@gordtc
@gordtc 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Nice that more people can now see this rare item.
@wilco3588
@wilco3588 6 ай бұрын
I would imagine the difference in temperature would also change the combustion rate of the propellant charge.
@justindunlap1235
@justindunlap1235 2 жыл бұрын
Great video thanx for sharing, I instantly subscribed after seeing how high quality your content is.
@DutchDaveModels
@DutchDaveModels 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting weapon. Thank you for showing all the details and how it was used. Very informative 👍🏻
@asadabdulqaabir4006
@asadabdulqaabir4006 8 ай бұрын
The military: we have a captured piece of artillery with immense historic value. Also the military: Let´s shoot some toilet paper rolls from that sucker. LOL it never gets old.
@Zbigniew_Nowak
@Zbigniew_Nowak 10 ай бұрын
I always thought it used the same ammunition as the Panzerschreck. If not, it's probably a bad idea. Soviet BMP-1 combat vehicles used the same ammunition as "hand" recoilless guns. Also, when firing a cannon in a combat vehicle, the firing range was greater (although it turned out to be a rather poor weapon). As for manually guiding the barrel to the target in this German invention, well, it was the same in some British tanks. ;)
@saradolphin3242
@saradolphin3242 9 ай бұрын
Hey You Taught About a German Weapon I Never Even heard About Thanks!
@jp-um2fr
@jp-um2fr 10 ай бұрын
U.K. Great video as always, so glad I found your channel. Stay well.
@faktablad
@faktablad 2 жыл бұрын
When I saw you had a new video up I was very happy. And it's as great and informative as ever. Wishing you the best!
@bimsbarkas
@bimsbarkas 9 ай бұрын
Haltepunkt should be translated as point of aim, literally the point where you hold the aiming point.
@2ndavenuesw481
@2ndavenuesw481 7 ай бұрын
Yes, but the 37 mm Pak "door-knocker" had been very effective except against thick armor. It's not a surprise that a small field gun design would be tried.
@davidkiser5250
@davidkiser5250 7 ай бұрын
Wheeling around on a Goliath while having flaming rolls of toilet paper fired at you? I have been missing out not going to war museum parties!
@feynthefallen
@feynthefallen 9 ай бұрын
I'll have to call you out on this one. "Haltepunkt" does not mean "halt point", it means "aiming point". That chart gives you a lead angle to hit a moving target.
@MFitz12
@MFitz12 8 ай бұрын
It occurs to me this might have been a useful weapon for a small armored scout car since presumably it could be mounted in an enclosed turret, not that the German's still had such a thing by the time these were produced. I wouldn't want to take on tanks with such a thing but road blocks and light bunkers, sure.
@Miata822
@Miata822 10 ай бұрын
Great review
@foximacentauri7891
@foximacentauri7891 8 ай бұрын
To me that doesn’t sound over engineered at all, just designed for a specification that turned out unnecessary.
@marcm4268
@marcm4268 2 ай бұрын
11:28 I would like to buy this Goliath that you speak about. I don’t have much money but I will gladly accept a donation. I will hold my breath until it arrives. Thanks in advance.
@WildBillCox13
@WildBillCox13 2 жыл бұрын
Nice. Liked and subbed on the spot.
@WildBillCox13
@WildBillCox13 Жыл бұрын
I feel that Germany was on to something here. More complex is countered by no backblast and greater effective range. Those latter two were the primary difficulties with other systems. Something like this would be far better on an SPW, for example, than the PaK35/36 or SPzB. Same with use in fortifications, fixed defenses of any kind, and for airborne and mountain troops.
@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368
@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome back, buddy
@alancranford3398
@alancranford3398 9 ай бұрын
I liked this video. If you want something weird, find one of these: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blacker_Bombard Canada didn't need them, though a descendent of the Blacker Bombard was the Hedgehog anti-submarine mortar and the PIAT used the same spigot launching technology.
@sidm3300
@sidm3300 5 ай бұрын
And to think that they laughed at the PIAT
@extragoogleaccount6061
@extragoogleaccount6061 9 ай бұрын
Can you do the Goliath?
@brittakriep2938
@brittakriep2938 2 жыл бұрын
Not ,werfs' but ,wirft' :-)
@kleinweichkleinweich
@kleinweichkleinweich 10 ай бұрын
it werfs raketens trust me
@brittakriep2938
@brittakriep2938 9 ай бұрын
@@kleinweichkleinweich : Your german is not ,The yellow of the egg' :-)
@johngeraci3887
@johngeraci3887 4 ай бұрын
We’re they that small ?
@kirgan1000
@kirgan1000 9 ай бұрын
In what way is its over-engenering? Gun shelds was the standard for most anti-tank guns. The weel is big and "primtive" becuse of lack of rubber. The "spade" and undercarriage look very conventional.
@JohnyG29
@JohnyG29 9 ай бұрын
It's over engineered for a rocket propelled anti-tank weapon (you just need a tube like a bazooka as he says), not a standard artillery piece.
@peceed
@peceed 9 ай бұрын
@@JohnyG29 Actually it allowed to use weapon from closed compartments. The biggest problem is inadequate performance. 450 meters of range was badly needed against moving targets.
AIR-2 Genie Rocket: More Bang for Your Buck
24:06
Our Own Devices
Рет қаралды 129 М.
PIAT: Better than the Panzerfaust?
18:57
Military History Visualized
Рет қаралды 150 М.
Harley Quinn's plan for revenge!!!#Harley Quinn #joker
00:49
Harley Quinn with the Joker
Рет қаралды 33 МЛН
Kind Waiter's Gesture to Homeless Boy #shorts
00:32
I migliori trucchetti di Fabiosa
Рет қаралды 11 МЛН
Why Is He Unhappy…?
00:26
Alan Chikin Chow
Рет қаралды 109 МЛН
Running With Bigger And Bigger Feastables
00:17
MrBeast
Рет қаралды 131 МЛН
Why the Soviet Computer Failed
18:57
Asianometry
Рет қаралды 3 МЛН
Panzerschreck: Germany Makes a Bazooka
11:49
Forgotten Weapons
Рет қаралды 2,1 МЛН
Soviet Anti-Tank Rifle Tactics of WW2
16:28
Military History Visualized
Рет қаралды 489 М.
Beeman's Gum: the Gum of Pilots
10:36
Our Own Devices
Рет қаралды 57 М.
Anti-Tank Chats #4 | Bazooka | The Tank Museum
19:23
The Tank Museum
Рет қаралды 142 М.
Inside the Chieftain's Hatch: Gun, Automatic, 40mm M1 (Bofors)
18:37
The Chieftain
Рет қаралды 133 М.
Anti-Tank Chats #5 | PIAT | The Tank Museum
23:31
The Tank Museum
Рет қаралды 146 М.
Tank Chats Special | Pak 43/41 Anti-Tank Gun | The Tank Museum
19:12
The Tank Museum
Рет қаралды 765 М.
Anti-Tank Chats #3 | Boys Anti Tank Rifle | The Tank Museum
8:57
The Tank Museum
Рет қаралды 167 М.
Shaped explosive anti-tank munitions of WWII (The NLAW and Javelin ancestors!)
8:28
The Australian Armour & Artillery Museum
Рет қаралды 282 М.
Harley Quinn's plan for revenge!!!#Harley Quinn #joker
00:49
Harley Quinn with the Joker
Рет қаралды 33 МЛН