MSI: Do not, under any circumstances, send Buildzoid any more motherboards. He likes us.

I hope we'll get to see now more motherboards from EVGA.

BRO - YOU NEED TIMESTAMPS

Looking forward to your AM5 board "rambles". I love those videos of breakdowns on motherboards. I always watch your stuff before I head out to buy a motherboard.

"scrolling is just better than digging through menus" With how complex UEFIs are getting I won't be surprised if they start using search tags.

"This video is way longer than it needs to be"... Buildzoid, please, PLEASE, never change. I absolutely LOVE putting your videos on in the background while Im playing games or doing housework and I absolutely LOVE your longer, rambling videos about things like this. I end up learning a BUNCH of things that are the kinds of stuff that is VERY difficult to find or figure out from reading tech forums and/or watching other PC hardware KZfaqrs as they are often very specific, less known and/or are things that just dont come up often in standard situations but can end up being SUPER handy to know.

Want to thank you for all you do for Motherboard info, your vids really help me fine tune my choices.

Thank You Buildzoid!!! I am going nuts with impatience over all these impending releases and this video is just what I need right now. I almost never buy anything, but I am considering upgrading my whole system this time around. I usually look forward to new releases just so I can watch tech-tube videos like yours. I can listen to you ramble and opinionate. I can watch your PCB breakdowns. ETC.

Appreciate that you're *always* sharing your vast knowledge! Thank you . . .

thank you for your honesty and detailed comments about everything, pretty sure you’re the best source of information about motherboards on youtube

Thanks for acknowledging potential biases beforehand. Really interesting to see the diverse picks despite gigabyte sending every motherboard under the sun to you, just makes it more interesting.

for those who did not watch the whole video... 1.MSI - ok to great, BIOS is good. 2.Gigabyte=Asus - BIOS are janky and the boards are inconsistent with VRM, Memory topology, etc. 3. Asrock - Most feature complete but BIOS is jankier. But the real judge is PRICE!

31:31 Buildzoid's BIOS Ranking: 1 MSI 2-Tie Gigabyte Asus 3 Asrock Complaints: Asrock Asus Gigabyte - BIOS layout sucks, boatload of sub-menus *You'll get used to it if you stick to one brand, switching between is a nightmare Asus - Unconventional naming conventions Asrock - Too much automation MSI - No VTT DDR control, BIOS profile-saving functionality unreliable on AM4 boards Pros: MSI - BIOS layout and function make sense, simple no unnecessary sub-menus 45:15 What a decent layout looks like Asrock Gigabyte - VTT DDR control ok, they don't bother to delete these settings. Same chip, copies the BIOS code across all of the boards. Gigabyte - BIOS profile saving feature 1:02:17 Overall impression / opinion: Gigabyte - If we could just put all the best parts of our boards onto one board instead of like five different boards we would have an incredible motherboard Asus - Their top-end boards come in one of two variants: very good or very bad, no in between lmao 1:12:50 Who's your preferred motherboard brand? Probably MSI. If I'm feeling brave and adventurous, I buy an Asus or a Gigabyte board because with either of them you never know what you're gonna get.

Quite the epic ramble. Thank you Buildzoid.

Great video BZ! We all know that we don't live in a perfect world. Can't expect perfection in all of the designs of motherboards! You did manager to show quite an array of motherboards so that was quite awesome!

Here is my asrock experience: I had asrock z77 extreme 4 (2012) back then, asrock continues to support that board and it had bios updates until late 2018. (not just security ones but adding new features too) Turns out it supports Vt-d and saved me well when i needed it. (As far as i know has the only vt-d functionality over z77 which normally does not support it), Non-k intel auto overclocking feature without compromising power saving feataures (which obsolotes 3770k, so you can grab 3770 which support vt-d) Received bios update and got boot functionality of nvme ssd's over pcie slot which worked flawless. Got spectre security updates... It was marvelous board and support from asrock. So i grab asrocks when i switch ryzen. One day during installation of b550m steel legend, i break couple of smd's on the board. emailed them position of parts for self repair, they immediately sent part no's of related parts and their and picture of pcb layout marked related positions of parts. I hardly buy any other brands unless i cant find asrocks around.

The BIOS is the reason I buy MSI. I could tolerate ASRock and Gigabyte BIOS but I'll never buy another ASUS board again because of their BIOS. There are so many settings in the ASUS BIOS that are named differently from other brands? everything is so overly complicated for no fuckin reason. Primary, secondary, and tertiary memory timings are all mixed up, everything is just a mess. Also, I couldn't set my fans lower than 50% in the ASUS BIOS? On my MSI board, I not only can control the fan voltage exactly however I want, but MSI BIOS shows you the fan RPM changes in realtime.

"Who's your favourite motherboard brand?" NONE lol.

I think one stereotype with Asus is you won't get a backplate and dual BIOS at the same prices as other brands. Like only boards above the Hero will have backplates and none of Asus' boards have dual bios , whereas with other brands, their counterparts with the Hero, like MSI's Ace, Gigabyte's Master and ASRock's Taichi all have backplates and dual BIOSes. The Hero often costs more than those too. Not that it's super important, but it makes handling boards less of a pain in the ass and gives a little mental comfort too.

Thank you for your honest reviews on these. Saves us a lot of time and effort doing the research ourselves + helps us understand what goes into making a good mobo. Very insightful!

''In order to overvolt graphics cards in the past, one needed to have a steady hand to solder, but amidst the numerous tiny resistors in LN2 smoke, that can be a bit difficult. Using the VGA hotwire feature, simply solder two wires on to a graphics card and connect them to a dedicated header connection on the motherboard and you’ll be overvolting your graphics card in no time.''

thanks BZ. your takes are helpful in figuring out what i want out of these things

10:54 One of my favorite boards is the X99 Taichi. Awesome board in both looks and function. Was great at OCing and as a daily driver. And because it was released later in the x99 cicle, it has more m.2 slots and other improvements. I still have it and i’m keeping it for as long as i can

This was great; also a great reminder about what Buildzoid wants in a motherboard versus me looking for a daily driver platform

There's no one else who's motherboard experiences I value more highly, thank you! I also found it interesting that you preferred MSI bios, I often heard people say that Asus had the best bios.

Man you and you alone are the reason i bought MSI mother boards for my AM4 CPU'S thank you for your advise and good luck in whatever you are doing now.

EZ-Tune actually WORKING would make Gigabyte boards SO much better! And now that some of them build in an auto-bios kickback, it would be REALLY NICE if they would create a log file for startup issues; I feel like the biggest strength for MSI is that every setting is named exactly what you expect it to be!

My first ever custom PC was built on same Sabertooth V2.0 and FX8350 with 32 gigs HyperX Fury. It was an amazing machine at the time.

You just about touched on it at the very end, regarding the Z690 Apex, that early boards we "apparently mostly ok", but nowhere else did you seem to mention other's experiences verifying your own, to rule out getting a board from a duff batch or whatever isolated issues arise now and then. Aside from that, very informative and helpful as usual. Thanks (and best wishes with not getting black-listed by all of the manufacturers). ;-)

Hearing you echo the exact same sentiments I have about the R5E(which is still my daily driver) is so validating.

Amazing video BZ!! I was one of those asking for your opinion about motherboards brands. Since my first build, a pentium 4 506 system, until now I have only used Asus motherboards. 6 in total, 4 intel and 2 ryzen, and they have always been problem free. My next one will be a B660 and I'll probably go with Asus or maybe I'll give a try to MSI depending on reviews of specific models around usd 220.

MSI x570 Creation has been a joy to daily since its launch it really hit the nail on the head on what I wanted out of a board. I really want to see more boards like that.

My favorite board was my DFI Lanparty NF4 Ultra-D AMD socket 939 which I modded to enable SLI (more expensive board version feature). I brought it open box used, and saved so much money, especially with that mod. That board was chock full of the latest Chipset features (NForce 4..yes..NVidia had the best chipsets for AMD back then, lol!) at the time and I loved how all the components were arranged. RIP DFI consumer enthusiast boards.

Rampage iv extreme was also my first ever motherboard with 3960x! Great bit of kit. Had z370 / 390's past few years, ones to note are obviously the evga dark, quality board It just seemed a bit slow posting, etc. Currently on the Asus gene xi and really enjoying it so far but I've got to be honest out of all of them my Gigabyte Aorus gaming 7 z370 wins. Absolutely love that board, sold the Dark z390 and kept that, had my 8086k at 5.6ghz with it and 9900k at 5.3ghz for very lengthy periods of time. Vrm's got crazy hot though, especially with the 9900k. Retiered her now for the gene xi. Thanks for the great content as usual BZ.

I've had two experiences with EasyTune from Gigabyte. The first one: Installed EasyTune. App would not open, it would crash with some error every time I tried to open it. Tried to uninstall EasyTune, would crash with the same error. Tried to delete the files, said it was still running. I don't remember if I ever got it uninstalled on that system lmao. The second one (just from last week): Installed EasyTune. App actually opened. Had a default and an OC mode. OC mode said 25GHz. I clicked it for lolz and it stuck my CPU at base clock. Default had it boost to 5.2GHz, but OC mode stuck it at 3.7GHz. I tried to click advanced mode and it crashed. I tried to click Default mode, but it still left my CPU at base clock. I uninstalled the app (which failed the first time but succeeded the second time) and restarted my system and thankfully it released its death grip on my CPU haha. So I'm just impressed you got EasyTune to function at all XD

Love this kind of content, and just found your channel through JTC recently about those z690 hero boards catching on fire. I've been rocking an ASUS X99 Deluxe with a i7-5820K for over 8 years now, still runs like a champ, though I'll likely be moving to a b650e + 7800X3D soon.

I enjoy this,subscribed because i want to learn some basics about overclocking

You know why gigabyte frustrates me? They don't put beep codes in manuals. On the faq page, they have core2 duo time beep fault codes(not the same as modern boards). I asked them to update that webpage, and now, that webpage is down for 30 days now.

My first PC build I got an ASUS P5N-T Deluxe and I was all excited ASUS looked good and I decided to try them out. The motherboard would corrupt data as it was written, I always thought it was something I was doing wrong and I lived with that thinking it was normal, until I got an ASUS P5Q-E which had no issues.

This somewhat ends up very informative, having some experience since the LGA775 era i find this awesome

LOL, thanks for releasing the video. Great info on the quirks of various mobo models and brands.

Listening to your Asus motherboard issues rambling reminded me of back in the AMD socket 939 days, I had an Asus AN8-SLI with a 3800+. I forgot what I overclocked it to but after a couple months, my screen just went black and stayed black. Tested everything else in the system and the motherboard was dead. So bought another new one and the same exact thing happened a couple months of use. Luckily, I was shipped out for Army training for a couple months, came back and Intel's Q6600 became my first build from coming back and I used a Gigabyte P35-DS3L. Still have that system and it's still overclocked to 3GHz after all these years. And since then, I've been using Gigabyte motherboards for all my builds. Did a 3570K build with a Z77-UD3H, a 7700K build with Z170X Gaming 5, and now, my current 5900x with an X570 Aorus Elite Wifi. And after Gigabyte's latest fiasco with PSUs exploding and giving customers shit, I think I'll give my MSI a try with my next build. Or even try out Asus again as towards the end of the video, it seems Asus motherboards are a lot better then 15 years ago.

Gigabyte knows what they're doing sending you all those mobos lol. Having used both i can confirm Asus naming things their own way is irritating, that said their Bios was more stable for me than Gigabyte's so i agree with them being on a tie. Both of them tend to hide things on weird places and sometimes i have to really go around looking for the setting i wanna change. Asrock i disappointed a friend by recommending him a H670 motherboard and he had to RMA it after less than a month so i have a negative opinion on their motherboards.

Another great video that I really enjoyed and learned a lot

23:54 I ended up buying the MSI X470 Gaming Pro Carbon years ago because of your videos about it haha. Thanks man!

Still running a FX8350 on a gigabyte 970a ds3p on a spare computer. The motherboard run HOT, always had the side off and a tablefan blowing on the VRM and chipset. When I stopped usig it daily and moved it I zip tied a 120mm fan inside the case blowing directly on the VRW and the chip on the middle on the board.

The MSI AM4 profile saving bug was an issue on one of the recent betas where the profiles would get wiped when clearing cmos. Msi support pissed me off to no end when i tried to report it but instead of acknowledgimg the issue they would try to make me jump through the hoops validating different settings that would make the board work ok instead of requiring clear cmos. Then they'd go "see? There is no problem, anyway we can't reproduce it." Jesus christ just save the profile and clear the cmos, the settings don't actually matter! "Nope we can't do that, can't reproduce it, btw we ran these settings and it booted fine..." 🙈

Buildzoid: "Eeeeehhh" KZfaq: [Music]

X370 Taichi owner. I would describe the bios as a game without autosave, one false move without a save and you need to start a new game building up the bios again from nothing. Have also tried a couple of times where I had to do the memory settings first and then reboot, before setting the rest of the settings. It was not able to do all the changes in one go. It still runs well with a 5800x now in my daily.

What do you think about Maxsun motherboards? I just got a Maxsun Z690 WiFi and I found its BIOS kinda too basic for its purpose (sometimes struggles with Auto settings as well). But it is robust, seems to have a great power delivery.

Couldn't agree more with the MSI bios. Simple, easy to navigate and straight to the point.

i mostly agree with the ranking list however i would move asus down below gigabyte instead of having it tied because (at least on my Maximus 9/10 Apex) i have to babysit it way more than i ever had to on any MSI or Gigabyte board. wanna post 3800+ on a budget MSI or Gigabyte board? sure it just works. wanna do that on an Apex? lol get 55'd unless you remember to set PLL Termination voltage. i never had to do that on any other board but this thing keeps having issues unless you manually set certain settings that the MSI and Gigabyte would just figure out on their own

I used a Rampage IV Extreme from 2012 to 2019 with a 3930K. Far from my first board, of course. The first motherboard I bought separately was Socket 3. Don't even remember the make and model at this point, though I should still have it around here somewhere.

I enjoy your videos especially the ones you call rambling.... Keep on a rambling brother...

when the screen opened up with the RIVE I was like "oh here we go.." XD I had one too, thing had to be warmed up to operating temps with a hair dryer to get it to boot other then that great board, had it running 3way sli GTX580 at one stage XD

1 hour and 26 minutes of rambling. I'm in. 🙋

Can confirm about that Rampage V Extreme, I had that board and a 5960X, I ended up shelving that and replacing it with a 1st gen Ryzen (1700) when it came out and later Threadripper. I had constant issues with that system and at the end something was so fucked up it would just get stuck in some boot loop where it wouldn't load into windows, to this day I don't know what was wrong with it in the end, I reused every part of that system in AM4/TR4 GPU RAM PSU SSD, everything worked except the board/CPU? As for 1st gen Ryzen, never noticed any issue other than the RAM not running XMP out of the box BIOS. I just gave up on it, still have those 2 sitting around in my closet, maybe I'll pull them out and try to get it working again.

I was wondering if the AORUS x570 extreme revision 1.1 has cleared up the major complaint you had about the memory overclocking? And if so are there any other complaints you have about that motherboard?

I am between the MSI MPG X670E CARBON WIFI and the Asus ROG STRIX X670E-E GAMING WIFI, for the new 7000 amd cpu, right now I have the Asus ROG Strix Z690E gaming wifi with the 12900k, it was my first PC build that I did this year, I am new to PC gaming and this would be my second build so I am not familiar with MSI or any other motherboards, what do you think?? after watching your video I am heavily leaning towards the MSI MPG X670E CARBON WIFI.

i have ASUS crosshair hero x570 and you are 100% correct about the menus in the bios... OMG i get lost so quick. they are by far my most favorite manufacture though ATM... just their build quality / components alone seem to be a step up from basically anyone else. gigabyte is probably my 2nd favorite they have come a LONG way since i started building like 30 (ish) years ago

Buildzoid. Always rambling. Never trembling.

My first motherboard was an Asus Pentium 2 400 (I have no idea what model it was, I was eight years old, and I've never seen what that motherboard looks like. If I think about it, I had the impression that there were some magicians in that box under the monitor) :)) the second motherboard was a gigabyte GA-EP43-UD3L (terribly short of saying the least), the third was the Asus MAXIMUS FORMULA -SPECIAL EDITION, a hidden gem I still have with the q6600, the fourth was an Asus Tuf Z390 Pro Gaming is an ok motherboard, but it's the only one I've seen like this, all the SATA ports were burnt (I still use it on my daughter's PC). And the 5th is the MSI Z690 Edge. I have nothing to complain about, it's exceptional. I bought it on your recommendation last year, thank you very much if I haven't thanked you yet.

Buildzoid has excellent rambling performance

I wonder if you could manage getting one of those cable tester and use it to test memory traces.

If I send you a 1680v2 would you consider doing a blast from the past session with that Rampage IV?

I don't remember my ddr3 boards, one was a dfi infinity something that the fan on it died, and I had to figure out a replacement. Both my ddr4 boards have been msi, a b450m and the x570s edge wifi max and love em

I love Asus AM4 series with ECC support. It doesn’t only support ECC but it also has the circuitry to inject errors so that you can test functionality. I can’t say that for the gigabyte ECC supporting AM4 motherboards or AsRocks IIRC. I’m almost 100% sure. MSI doesn’t even bother supporting ECC on AM4. At least for most models if there is any.

in MSI you can look up BIOS settings with CTRL + F if you don’t remember where they are

Big warning about the Rampage IV Extreme, very common issue of randomly dying. I've had one.

Buildzoid should start a show called "Hells motherboard manufacturer" Where he goes in like chef Ramsay but throws motherboards instead of beef wellingtons.

If you like the b550 steel legend, how do you feel about the b550 extreme4? It seems they're just about the same board, with only a few minor differences. I know it isn't like you get a chance to do hands on testing every single motherboard that comes out, but I'm just wondering if maybe you've heard something negative about it that I havent. I got one about a year ago cause it was a little cheaper than the steel legend at the time

Hey Buildzoid! How about EVGA, or the crappy Biostar motherboards?

Your experience with Asus motherboards pre rampage v extreme, exactly mirrors mine. I was ride or die for Asus up until then lol.

Great honest motherboards review. The best motherboard I ever bought and use is an ASUS Motherboard and the worse is an Asrock. The Gigabyte motherboards I have used never let me down. It's just that the bios was confusing to use. I now use X570 Unifi MSI motherboard AMD 5800x for applications such cad, 3dmodeling and simulations with NVIDIA 3090 with absolutely no issues. The MSI bios is very user friendly and make over clocking very easy. I play game from Microsoft xbox subscription with good frame rates. My favorite is Microsoft flight and forza horizons series of games. I have an Asus motherboard I use for some cad and real world 3d simulations with Intel xeon 18 core processor. I find the bios really great and easy to use. It has great over clocking potential but I am only interested in using it for multicore applications for rendering and engineering system simulations. It runs for hours with no overheating with an Amd 5700xt. Great system build for the case use. I will peak Asus bios any day over the msi for the flexibility it provides and it's feature rich. The Asus motherboard has served me well for years, but has been killed by Microsoft Windows 11. I will keep running Windows 10 and hope Microsofts will have a change of heart and release an update that will enable continued use of this great system. I have learned from your review that buying a motherboard can be a lottery. I will keep checking the reviews to see which Asus motherboard will best serve my needs. Many thanks for sharing your findings. Great research.

Abit BH6 the original overclocking board! DFI LanParty (they hired ex-Abit engineers and gave them “no budget”). My favorite two boards.

MSI is so good with memory overclocking and support I had a Z370 Carbon and it's still to this day the only mainboard that trained my 4X8GB 3600 cl14 Gskill Trident Z kit on command rate 1

The biggest question for me is what the diffrence is between diffrent motherboards of the same amufacurer and chipset, like how much of a diffrence is there really between a 400€ and a 1200€ motherboard with the exact same chipset.

I love a BZ ramble. looking forward to the x670e content

Super surprised ab Rampage V Extreme X99, that was a lovely powerfull board, true that memory preferred x133 strap and run only around 3000MHz but other than that it was a blast with 5960X. Shame mine died 2y ago with code 00. In that time it was one and only 8/16 core/threads wonderfully running with Titan X Maxwell in SLI.

Asus BIOS now has a search function, so you can just type in the setting name and then edit it. But you need to know what they called it, and even the search won't tell you which sub-sub-sub menu that option is actually in.

Just finished listening wasn’t sure what to do, thought it would be a great ending to throw on Zeps “Ramble on”.

Heartily agree on the MSI BIOS. They typically have very solid upper mid-range and high-range boards as well. Dissapointed this time around in terms of pricing though........my AM4 socket B550 Carbon I picked up for $200.00 brand new 2 years ago however the recently released AM5 socket B650 Cabron is selling for $330.00.

Gigabyte's thing is putting the same settings in multiple menus - and changing one doesn't affect the other so they can be different.

The ASUS B550 Pro Art board and any of the Pro Art boards might surprise some. The B550 Pro Art has dual x8 while intel B660 doesn't. You gotta fork over $400+ for that. Lately i picked up a z590 OC FORMULA for $200 with the 6900XT OCF to match, for $600. I also picked up the Z590 DARK and 10850K for $400. These are new items by the way. My favorite deals were the 5700XT Nitro SE's for $200 and 6900XT TOXIC EE "AIR"'s that have 2.543GHz boost clocks right out the box. $800. I binned 2 TOXICS that actually run 3GHz flat with 19Gbps on the ram. Takes some S and H mods but they do it.

I had Ram issues with My x570 Taichi and power issues too. I paired it with a 5950x and a 5900x and it did not work properly. Crashes on high extensive applications and games. I switched to the MSI 570s Carbon max wifi and issues gone. Also I can run my ram at 3600 mhz and no problem at all. All resolved now. I tried many things and send it to different technicians and nobody could tell what caused my blue screens while working or games crashing. They did not find any issue. My Taichi worked great paired with a 3800x and the RX5700XT. I changed PSU and got the 5900x paired with the 6800XT. Tried different UEFIS, different setups with 16Gb of ram 3600 trident z (2×8Gb). With (4x8Gb) of the same ram it was fine when I lowered the ram at 3200. Then I decided I'll need more ram for my projects and future proof. Bought 2x32Gb at 3600 and the Taichi could not handle it. Even at 3000 mhz I had stability issues. The mobo change fixed all my issues.

x79 asus sabertooth was one of my first really good boards i bought i loved that thing. it was a step or two down from rampage i believe

I'm glad you liked the Gene XI. I've got it in my main rig, and besides minor quirks it works very well daily.

I wish someone could make a video about MB brands and how many years of Warranty, how many years of BIOS support they provide

My 1st motherboard was a Gigabyte with a hot chipset that had me worried but ran fine. My last motherboard B550 is also a Gigabyte motherboard. Price to performance is fantastic. But my most impressive board was an ASRock ITX board that blew away my expectations. I've owned MSI before too, no complaints there. Was an i5 6500 that stuttered a lot but I bought it used so idk if the board or CPU was to blame.

I've been working in IT for 25 years and really few brands gave me the headache that MSI gave me in the past, it's true that I haven't tried anything from them for about 4 years, but many problems with motherboards and video cards of this brand, On the other hand, with other brands I had much less problems, especially with gigabyte. The good thing is that we have a variety of brands for everyone.

@Acutally Hardcore Overclocking What do you think about EVGA motherboard?

I would love for you to go through the upcoming Z790 boards, as many leaks have already apeared, and I am to upgrade from an ASrock Z370 Pro4 to something better :D

15:33 hearing about a bios that makes a cpu only work when overclocked is funny XD

the pc that got me into pcs was on an Asus Sabertooth 990FX r2. I loved that motherboard. or the BIOS at least. the copper and poorly matched tan with black would've had it rough in the tempered glass side panel era.

I'm honestly concerned with the insane cost of MB's now and how little features they do have in the $300 range. The new $500+ range actually includes things like reset/flashback buttons, post codes, etc. for the z670 upcoming boards, and that's unfortunate.

Since EVGA are stopping their GPU production I hope they reallocate resources to their motherboard division. They used to make some great motherboards for most price points but then started to really only focus on the high end and really narrow their options. My first was a P55 LE, a $120 board, then a P55 Classified 200, a $300 board. But since they didn't make a board for Ryzen when it came out (still rocking 1700X as an early adopter) I jumped ship to Asus for a X370 Crosshairs Hero VI. There is still a nice large market for both AMD and Intel boards and with EVGA's history of making great boards they should really flesh out their product stack to get some good $$$.

i used to be all in on ABiT before they folded (shows my age i guess) then i had two gigabyte boards that left a good impression before gb went all in on the rgb craze with their aorus branding, then i had two decent asus boards, so right now i guess im in a healthy spot where i could just get a board from any of the main manufacturers without much bias, well maybe not asrock

I wanted an asus board for my first build. Compared to msi the price was much higher. The msi board offered similar vrm and memory overclocking so I went with that. It has held up very well and not had any problems. The easy bios layout is another plus. If I had to choose another board I would go by vrm and memory peformance and what features I wanted at the best price. I would wait for reviews from other users as well to make sure there aren't any quirks you don't want to find out after you bought it. Especially with the higher prices of mbs these days.

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It's a complicated blend of chipset, form factor, power delivery, price segmentation, and time after release for BIOS fixes: Don't expect that any new platform release will go smoothly. Wait for a few BIOS revisions to show up before making your decision. Stay away from the sub-$100 boards, there are just too many compromises and not worth skimping on since this is the foundation of your system. Don't assume 4 DIMM's of high speed memory can pass memory tests when 2 DIMM's will. For DDR5 this is EXTREMELY important to understand. Even if done carefully, frequently swapping cases and memory kits can definitely cause permanent damage to high-speed signal traces and sockets (i.e. DIMM slots... especially on MSI boards) above $300: Serious diminishing returns and so much 'armor' that they sacrifice serviceability for bling. $200's: MSI X299 SLI Plus ATX: requires manual CMOS clearing for every single BIOS version, otherwise old values end up being misinterpreted by the new BIOS. During one BIOS update one of the Ethernet MAC addresses was zeroed out effectively killing that port. Otherwise great BIOS layout, good power delivery, and port selection. It has survived multiple case and memory swaps, but one of the DIMM slots is now very finnicky and requires a few insertion attempts to make it pass mem tests. MSI X570 MPG Carbon ATX: was pretty decent but buggy USB in AM4 platform (AGESA) plagued the Oculus Rift and sensors... had to move to Intel for this specific reason. Otherwise great power and port selection. It also survived multiple case swaps. ASUS H670 TUF: BIOS organization is all over the map and seems sloppy. The best board layout for keeping M.2 drives away from GPU heat. Good power and port selection. Has survived case and memory swaps. Gigabyte Z690 Gaming X DDR5 ATX: Terrible memory compatibility. Tried two different 2x32GB kits and they both failed at XMP: Kingston 5600 and Corsair Vengeance 5600. The only kit that works was the bundled AORUS 2x16GB 5200 kit... what a coincidence. $100's: ASRock B550 ITX: also had buggy USB but as mentioned above that is an AM4 platform problem. Otherise great bang for buck and has been 100% reliable. ASRock Z590 Pro4: On paper is nothing special but this board has been extremely impressive. Otherise great bang for buck and has been 100% reliable. MSI Z590 Gaming Force ATX: I love the design flair of this board. Solid power and good BIOS layout. However, seems like it was injured by a simple memory swap... can't hit XMP anymore so I had to drop CAS timings by 1. MSI Z690 PRO DDR4 ATX: Arrived from Amazon unable to pass mem tests at XMP speeds. (I'm expecting fragile DIMM traces.) Gigabyte Z590 Vision D ATX: Cool BIOS theme but very laggy menus. No way in BIOS to disable the onboard WiFi/BT chip, which is odd. Power delivery seems to have been hindered by over-designed under-performing VRM heatsinks. Gigabyte Z170X ATX: Super buggy BIOS in first few revisions... settings wouldn't save, and attempting the board's auto-mem-overclock killed one of my Crucial DIMM's. less than $100: ASUS Prime B560 M-ATX: Surprisingly good BIOS and port selection but terrible power delivery and crazy coil-whine. Gigabyte Z170M mATX: Also had initial BIOS problems, but those were smoothed out pretty quickly and lasted for a long time as HTPC until a case swap somehow flexed the memory traces and I couldn't run at XMP speeds anymore. Power delivery not the greatest.