Ramjet missile propulsion - the biggest invention since the introduction of the jet engine

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Nammo Media

Nammo Media

Күн бұрын

When the jet engine was invented in the 1040s, it changed aviation forever: Aircraft could fly faster, higher and have more maneuverability. Now ramjet motors have the potential to create an equally fundamental change for rocket motors. Air to air missiles could reach as far as 500km. After more than 150 successful motor tests, the initial developmental test phase is over. Nammo now plans to move to ballistic firing tests.

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@stevoplex
@stevoplex 4 жыл бұрын
As a defense contractor for the US Air Force, I had a colleague that had worked on the Bomarc, a supersonic ramjet missile deployed in the late 1950s. It had a range of 700km, with a top speed of Mach 2.5.
@target844
@target844 4 жыл бұрын
From what I can find the Bomarc is a liquid fuel ramjet, not a solid fuel like in this video. If I understand the idea correctly you get a missile with solid fule that would be cheaper to build, require less maintenance, and simple to store then a liquid-fueled missile.
@metanumia
@metanumia 4 жыл бұрын
@@target844 Indeed, the switch to a technically much simpler and less expensive solid-fuel rocket motor design that combusts using only atmospheric oxygen from the ram-air inlet at the front is what's very innovative about Nammo's new devices. Personally, I find the Sprint ABM from the US's old Nike-X program in the 1960's to be the most impressive surface-to-air missile ever created in terms of raw performance. The system ended up being way too expensive and the Nike-X program was cancelled. But, I could see a new hybrid ram-air solid-fueled rocket like Nammo's concept being used today to start a new terminal-phase ground-based ABM missile program based around a much longer and more maneuverable hybrid ram-air solid-fueled rocket motor to finally make a more affordable and mass-production capable ABM missile shield for North America or Europe and Scandinavia. Sprint ABM: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sprint_(missile)
@pieterveenders9793
@pieterveenders9793 2 жыл бұрын
@@metanumia Wow, I had no idea Nammo was testing solid fueled ramjet engines, I just assumed they were liquid fueled ramjets because I had no idea solid fueled ones even existed! Do you have any idea what kind of solid fuel they use, and how they make it suitable for combustion? And what do they use as an ignition source?
@82NeXus
@82NeXus 2 жыл бұрын
@@pieterveenders9793 I didn't know there was any solid that would burn fast enough in air to do that, but maybe there is. I wonder if they're adding some solid oxidiser and using the air as additional oxidiser. Or are they actually using liquid fuel for the ramjet stage and solid fuel for the rocket stage?
@tonywilson4713
@tonywilson4713 5 ай бұрын
I'm an aerospace engineer and you are right THIS IS OLD TECHNOLOGY that is being re-birthed. This is the second of the videos I have watched. The other one was on their artillery shell that has a ramjet or what they call a ramjet as it should be classified as a ram rocket because they use solid fuel. This is mainly a PR video.
@bruceferry3825
@bruceferry3825 4 жыл бұрын
A ramjet missiles was used by the U.S. Navy starting in the late 50's . It was called Talos.
@paradox5087
@paradox5087 4 жыл бұрын
not at the same power as this one has this one could potentially carry war heads
@icarvs_vivit
@icarvs_vivit 4 жыл бұрын
@@paradox5087 Talos missiles were capable of delivering nuclear warheads.
@blingbling574
@blingbling574 4 жыл бұрын
Bendix produced the missile. Honeywell is the parent company now.
@samkom33
@samkom33 3 жыл бұрын
the germans use lots of flying bombs that had ramjet during ww2 that was named V-1 They sendt around 9521 against england 100 a day at the most! they weight more than 2000 kg each of which 800 kg was explosives.
@samkom33
@samkom33 3 жыл бұрын
@@RobertLutece909 my bad, im norwegian, google translate trickd me. hehe in norwegian both ram jets and pulse jets are just cald JET- ENGINES. I Guess if your a scientist you use different names. i know the difference though becouse i read a lot. a pure ram jet works best at mac3+ while a pulse jet works more like a 2 stroke engine. at any speed= explosion blowing out exhaust and then pause while it sucks in new oxygen.
@emilchouster787
@emilchouster787 4 жыл бұрын
As far as I remember RIM-8 Talos used ramjet in 1958.
@moreinzenjering6727
@moreinzenjering6727 4 жыл бұрын
The ramjet was conceived in 1913 by French inventor René Lorin, who was granted a patent for his device In 1915, Hungarian inventor Albert Fonó devised a solution for increasing the range of artillery, comprising a gun-launched projectile which was to be united with a ramjet propulsion unit In the Soviet Union, a theory of supersonic ramjet engines was presented in 1928 by Boris Stechkin. Yuri Pobedonostsev, chief of GIRD's 3rd Brigade, carried out a great deal of research into ramjet engines. The first engine, the GIRD-04, was designed by I.A. Merkulov and tested in April 1933 and so on
@tonywilson4713
@tonywilson4713 5 ай бұрын
I'm an aerospace engineer and you are right THIS IS OLD TECHNOLOGY that is being re-birthed. This is the second of the videos I have watched. The other one was on their artillery shell that has a ramjet or what they call a ramjet as it should be classified as a ram rocket because they use solid fuel. This is mainly a PR video.
@oompalumpus699
@oompalumpus699 4 жыл бұрын
Mr. Moller seems like an adorable old man. Love his demure way of explaining things.
@kme8134
@kme8134 3 жыл бұрын
Are you a granny looking for some company? No doubt, most grannies would throw him some poontang.
@humanbeing1675
@humanbeing1675 4 жыл бұрын
A Ramjet is nothing new..but in this package it could be a gamechanger. Lets see.
@Gabo_Gatchava
@Gabo_Gatchava 3 жыл бұрын
gamechanger is Russian 200 megaton undetectable sleeping torpedo's aka radioactive 50 meter tsunami bombs, this is simple gameplay
@swunt10
@swunt10 2 жыл бұрын
Meteor missile already exists and it is a game changer. the solid fuel ramjet was developed in germany many years ago and makes the Meteor an amazing long range air to air missile.
@pieterveenders9793
@pieterveenders9793 2 күн бұрын
@@Gabo_Gatchava Lol, you mean 2 megaton. Per usual the Russian propaganda has been downgraded and debunked.
@Gabo_Gatchava
@Gabo_Gatchava Күн бұрын
​@@pieterveenders9793 in 1961 they already had 100 megaton bomb and detonated 50 megaton(which u can search and find) but in your head it can be read as 1 or 0.5 megatons as I understand, nice talking to u
@jeffkavanaugh6988
@jeffkavanaugh6988 4 жыл бұрын
A number of Surface to Air Missiles used Ramjet Propulsion example: RIM-8 TALOS (1958), CIM-10 BOMARC (1959), and UK's Bloodhound (1959). So using ramjets in missiles is not new. In this case the uses a solid fuel ramjet to greatly increase range by providing positive thrust, instead of base-bleed merely cutting the drag...
@sideshowbob5237
@sideshowbob5237 3 жыл бұрын
Bristol Bloodhound surface to air missile entered service with the RAF in 1958 and continued in service until the 1990's. It used rocket boosters to get the missile up to speed then the ramjets took over. I worked on the launchers as an apprentice in Bristol.
@RiftVaulter
@RiftVaulter 3 жыл бұрын
Love Nammo, one of the truly innovative and genuine companies I love!
@vyrsh0
@vyrsh0 Жыл бұрын
who are you to gauge?
@RiftVaulter
@RiftVaulter Жыл бұрын
@@vyrsh0 I am the presidential advisor on gauges and godfathers
@jebise1126
@jebise1126 5 ай бұрын
yeah... only 50+ years late lol
@nathanokun8801
@nathanokun8801 3 жыл бұрын
The FIRST and largest US Navy ship-fired AA missile introduced around 1960, the TALOS, was ramjet-powered and, until better rocket fuels were introduced for higher speeds and uplink-controlled missile guidance allowed optimum high-altitude mid-trajectory flight (SM-2 and after, including Aegis), TALOS was the longest-range AA missile the US Navy had, thougn not the fastest and very bulky, so it needed very large ships and this finally caused it to be decommissioned.
@jimhenry1262
@jimhenry1262 4 жыл бұрын
I think these guys are friggen brilliant. I cannot wait to meet them to assist me with a new project I have coming up in a few years!!
@possiblyadickhead6653
@possiblyadickhead6653 4 жыл бұрын
What??
@Geolaminar
@Geolaminar 4 жыл бұрын
best of luck with your project in the middle east
@manjunathswamy2270
@manjunathswamy2270 4 жыл бұрын
Careful Chinese may have already bugged your systems to copy the technology.
@HeadPack
@HeadPack 2 жыл бұрын
The question remains how these rockets reach mach-3 speeds, in order for the ramjet to work. If a rocket motor is used in addition, the system will get more complex, and some of the improved fuel efficiency will be negated. If these are launched from aircraft or drones, and no rocket motor shall be used, these aircraft will have to fly much faster than current gen fighters.
@audunms4780
@audunms4780 2 жыл бұрын
if they use rockets for the inintal stage that stage will be just as eficient as a normal rocket ish.
@jebise1126
@jebise1126 5 ай бұрын
they dont... ram jet starts working at mach 1,5 or something like that... oh by initial booster of course
@LeonardoRodriguez-ip4mx
@LeonardoRodriguez-ip4mx 4 жыл бұрын
Simple terms. SR 71 engine on a rocket
@GVALNIER
@GVALNIER 4 жыл бұрын
Not so complex, ram jets are far more simple.
@isaackarjala7916
@isaackarjala7916 4 жыл бұрын
SR71 uses a hybrid ram-turbo jet engine
@AnIndianPatriot
@AnIndianPatriot 3 жыл бұрын
LoL now it's the technology of Scramjet, Yeah. India is building BrahMos 2 missile with Scramjet Powered engine. Scramjet and Ramjet are identical but Scramjet is more effective.
@LeonardoRodriguez-ip4mx
@LeonardoRodriguez-ip4mx 3 жыл бұрын
Soon we'll see backpacks with ramjet propulsion
@AnIndianPatriot
@AnIndianPatriot 3 жыл бұрын
@@LeonardoRodriguez-ip4mx yeah, if we want to switch on or off the thrust whenever we want, there will be JetPacks, but with Ramjet propulsion only.
@tedf1471
@tedf1471 4 жыл бұрын
Bristol Bloodhound from the 1950's or 60's Mach 3 and 190Km range?
@christraymer3727
@christraymer3727 3 жыл бұрын
There's something about seeing a missle tear ass into the wild blue yonder. It's like "there he goes boys. Some poor bastard's very last bad day."
@ErichHaubrich
@ErichHaubrich 2 жыл бұрын
This comment thread is sharing a fascinating body of knowledge. Cheers!
@vtkrey
@vtkrey 4 жыл бұрын
The Soviets, Americans and a bunch of others had working ramjets decades ago, it shouldn't be presented as new technology.
@steel_yeet2989
@steel_yeet2989 4 жыл бұрын
for missiles is new
@vtkrey
@vtkrey 4 жыл бұрын
@@steel_yeet2989 Not at all, the Russians have fielded the P-270 and P-800 ramjet powered ASM for decades, they also helped India develop the Brahmos ASM which also uses ramjet propulsion. In the west a few nations also fielded ramjet powered missiles for decades. The earliest ramjet powered missiles appeared in the 1960's both in the west and east.
@missilpeludo8813
@missilpeludo8813 4 жыл бұрын
Remigijus Naucas don’t forget the European missile called Meteor
@digitalnomad9985
@digitalnomad9985 4 жыл бұрын
A valid point, however, this is the first time I have seen SOLID FUEL ramjets being developed for missile propulsion (I saw it once proposed for accelerating bullets). The early experiments cited in this thread and those above used LIQUID fuel.
@vtkrey
@vtkrey 4 жыл бұрын
@@digitalnomad9985 Ah I see, that's a good point!
@edgarmaestre6622
@edgarmaestre6622 4 жыл бұрын
Ramjet engines was invented before the real jet engines
@Bobbyj134
@Bobbyj134 2 жыл бұрын
okay so don't you need the missile to already be moving for this to work in order to starting the mixing of the air and fuel i can see it working on an aircraft but how do you get initial take off.
@maeelectronics
@maeelectronics 4 жыл бұрын
It will go so fast and be so much better than the last generation missile that it should cause world peace and good will to all people.
@muimasmacho
@muimasmacho 4 жыл бұрын
Mike Johnston Well... aren't you the Party Pooper? Your optimism makes me sick! General Patton would slap you silly.
@gruisman
@gruisman 2 жыл бұрын
actually so simple with no new technologies and no one tought about doing this before awesome hahaha
@manuelteixeira2496
@manuelteixeira2496 2 жыл бұрын
Nice, very impressive missil engine! Great job . Wel done. Keep this thecnic away from stealing guys, please. This must stay as higly classified.
@andrewwmacfadyen6958
@andrewwmacfadyen6958 8 ай бұрын
The UK produced two ram jet boosted AGM missiles in the late 1950's the Thunderbird and the longer range Bloodhound. The Bloodhound particularly the MK2 version was highly regarded and only phased out of Swedish service in the early. 2000's
@Quatuux
@Quatuux 4 жыл бұрын
"the biggest invention since the introduction of the jet engine" 1st jet engine ever invented was a ramjet...
@1Maklak
@1Maklak 4 жыл бұрын
Pulsejet. It had one way valves at the air intake and worked in cycles. Ramjet has no valves and works continuously, but has to be faster to work.
@olemann2832
@olemann2832 4 жыл бұрын
That is true. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/e52DpLZ_tsuldoE.html
@moreinzenjering6727
@moreinzenjering6727 4 жыл бұрын
@@1Maklak The ramjet was conceived in 1913 by French inventor René Lorin, who was granted a patent for his device In 1915, Hungarian inventor Albert Fonó devised a solution for increasing the range of artillery, comprising a gun-launched projectile which was to be united with a ramjet propulsion unit In the Soviet Union, a theory of supersonic ramjet engines was presented in 1928 by Boris Stechkin. Yuri Pobedonostsev, chief of GIRD's 3rd Brigade, carried out a great deal of research into ramjet engines. The first engine, the GIRD-04, was designed by I.A. Merkulov and tested in April 1933 and so on
@olindbck
@olindbck 4 жыл бұрын
@@moreinzenjering6727 The hard task is to get them to work in practice.
@Puzzoozoo
@Puzzoozoo 4 жыл бұрын
@@olemann2832 That brought back memories from a long gone childhood. AND I even remembered the words. 😳
@112deeps
@112deeps 2 жыл бұрын
To Nammo - the summary under the title states Jet engine invented in the 1040's instead of 1940's This is obviously a typo error. You may want to correct thus
@fitrianhidayat
@fitrianhidayat 4 жыл бұрын
If it doesn't carry oxidizer, how would it reached the very high speed needed for ramjet to work though?
@him3bu
@him3bu 3 жыл бұрын
That is the ? in my mind But nobody seems to touch that point.
@steffennilsen2132
@steffennilsen2132 3 жыл бұрын
likely rocket booster that falls off after a short burst or so I would imagine
@anthonykaiser974
@anthonykaiser974 2 жыл бұрын
Since it's solid fuel, perhaps the first part of the propellant also contains oxidized fuel. Think of it similar to the red igniter pad on an old school 155mm base charge.
@funnymanatwork
@funnymanatwork 3 жыл бұрын
interesting stuff, kinda surprised this hasn't been apart of previous weapons systems since the concept of a ramjet and it's use is fairly old. Must be some progression in manufacturability that has made this cheaper or easier to make. but I suppose there are limits to it, like if launched from an aircraft the craft itself would have to be traveling at the operational speed for it to work otherwise it would need an additional stage to get the missile up to speed for the ram jet to work.
@loganzacher9911
@loganzacher9911 2 жыл бұрын
From what I've read, the major obstacle of development for ramjets became clear during extensive testing from the 50's to the 70's revealing that its operating speeds created temperatures that weren't survivable for any materials being used at the time. Hopefully with modern alloys and material development we'll soon be able to see the ramjet's true potential realized.
@richardprowse1088
@richardprowse1088 2 жыл бұрын
@@loganzacher9911 The British Thunderbird and Bloodhound missile systems both used ramjets. These were designed in the 50's and 60's and Bloodhound served until the early '90s in RAF service. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloodhound_(missile)
@loganzacher9911
@loganzacher9911 2 жыл бұрын
@@richardprowse1088 oh wow I didn't realize that. I think what I read about ramjets was regarding their potential use in upper stage spacecraft which may be why they weren't able to build them to be durable/reusable enough for that application, but seeing that missiles are single use that would definitely make sense as to how they were able to make them work for that purpose despite not having materials strong enough to make them last beyond a single use or two
@jebise1126
@jebise1126 5 ай бұрын
it was... P-800 Oniks for example and there are other older ones too. problem is that ram jet only starts to work above mach 1 so such missiles need 2 stages or at least starting booster to get to proper speed. also its not easy to make it proper shape for igniting propellant and keep that propellant burning
@viktorg6823
@viktorg6823 3 жыл бұрын
The true limiting factor is how far the radar can see that guides the missile (at least when we're talking AA like the PATRIOT system, etc.)
@georgen7467
@georgen7467 2 жыл бұрын
Not really because you can have an AWACS or an fighter closer to target or even another ground based or naval radar
@jebise1126
@jebise1126 5 ай бұрын
well yes that too... but if engine is turned on long time missile would be able to actually turn around and other funny tricks. so basically kill distance would be much greater
@mrbrianbrush
@mrbrianbrush 4 жыл бұрын
Will low atltitude engagements kill the range of this missile. They omly work high up
@sameerthakur720
@sameerthakur720 4 жыл бұрын
The SA-4, SA-6, Bomarc, Talos, Bloodhound and the Sea Dart were Ramjet powered Air Defence missiles. The Meteor is a current ramjet powered AAM. India is working on a ramjet powered Astra AAM. Moskit, Oniks, Brahmos, ASMP, Hsuing Feng -3, XASM-3 are ramjet powered strike missiles. So what's new about ramjet propulsion?
@sameerthakur720
@sameerthakur720 3 жыл бұрын
Meteor and Brahmos are solid fuelled. So is the Astra (ramjet version), ASMP, XASM-3 and Hsuing Feng-3, I think.
@sameerthakur720
@sameerthakur720 3 жыл бұрын
@Jack ripper My mistake. But Meteor and Astra (ramjet) have full solid fuelled propulsion. They need to be fired by fast maneuvering combat aircraft.
@user-fh4vy2he3o
@user-fh4vy2he3o 7 ай бұрын
Taiwanese ramjet anti ship missile is doing well now. The Hsiung-Feng III anti ship missile.
@MasIki.Gaming
@MasIki.Gaming 4 жыл бұрын
Narator: Even lauch from submarines Video: showing launch from truck
@YaR0MyR
@YaR0MyR 3 жыл бұрын
probably after launching the truck will rapidly submerge in nearby fjord =D
@hellenicculture8169
@hellenicculture8169 4 жыл бұрын
i have that in my mind 20years now! and more!
@Vypren
@Vypren 3 жыл бұрын
Ballistic ramjet missiles ... Lord have mercy.
@ibroguma
@ibroguma 4 жыл бұрын
This ramjet concept have stability?! What happened when is raining, snowing, in minuses (-54) or (+65) temperatures ...
@Geolaminar
@Geolaminar 4 жыл бұрын
Some of what they say here is wishful thinking. It would be more truthful to compare a ramjet to a jet engine, they share more in common with these than rockets, despite basicaly being as simple as a flying stovepipe. Their efficiency starts out far, far, worse, but improves as speed increases, performing best at mach 2-3, and tapering off by mach 5 or so. But they should perform excelently in terms of stability. The fuels would be best compared to something like particularly enthusiastic candle wax. It is a solid, so does not disolve contaminants or pick up water like liquid fuels. Nor will it freeze or boil. They should also be less prone to degridation over time than rocket propellant. Oxidizer in rocket propellant and explosives wants to react with the fuel. This does happen even with a rocket just sitting in storage, just very slowly, leading to degredation of stability and other properties. I don't know how much of a problem this is, being just a aerospace hobbyist, but i imagine not having oxidizer would help the situation immensely. Plus, there are no bearings, seals or any other sort of mechanism you need to take careful care of. You should be able to put one of these things in a basic protective sleeve, and just leave it there for about forty years before you see any sort of issue. Best of luck with your blowing up of bad guys! Unless you're not NATO. In which case kindly become a democracy before reading this youtube comment.
@thisghy8126
@thisghy8126 4 жыл бұрын
@@Geolaminar that's the biggest thing, the fact that you dont need to maintain a missile like this means that a country can buy a tonne in bulk and save them for decades for potential war, not buy a few and shoot them before they expire, this is huge for logistics.
@lucianomulot4068
@lucianomulot4068 3 жыл бұрын
I like this toy
@dejiamoo
@dejiamoo 4 жыл бұрын
How do you get the missile to Mach 3 in the first place?
@possiblyadickhead6653
@possiblyadickhead6653 4 жыл бұрын
With a booster rocket, simple as that.
@missilpeludo8813
@missilpeludo8813 4 жыл бұрын
notafakeaccount so weight wasn’t a problem?
@missilpeludo8813
@missilpeludo8813 4 жыл бұрын
Ramjet works more efficiently around Mach 3 , it’s not the initial speed en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramjet
@41714049
@41714049 3 жыл бұрын
Not taking away anything from this video... Can't help to think of Norsemen on Netflix when listening to the narrator.
@georgen7467
@georgen7467 2 жыл бұрын
300 seconds at mach 3 is 300+km range wow
@faris.Djunaidi
@faris.Djunaidi 3 жыл бұрын
Dr. Evil talking about rocket
@josemansilha184
@josemansilha184 3 жыл бұрын
He can not be used from ground with Out a catapulta right?
@mitchbatten8281
@mitchbatten8281 4 жыл бұрын
Watching those Ramjet rockets take off is amazing, I hope the NASA astronauts inside made it home ok.
@Freedom2x462
@Freedom2x462 4 жыл бұрын
Destroyers and battleships should carry those !
@headcrab4090
@headcrab4090 3 жыл бұрын
Ramjets need a high speed to compress air to work in a simple design. Launching from a ship will need oxygen tanks or some hybrid system.
@jeffjefferson2676
@jeffjefferson2676 4 жыл бұрын
Now i do feel safer. Its kind of odd nobody looked into ramjets before, because the concept is older than the modern jet engine. Ive seen guys make a pulsejet in high-school for their graduation project. We were 17 back then. I remember it needed a lot of initial air before it started properly. So they used a blower to get the engine running. But once it ran, it ran. It did make a lot of noise though. I bet that if you have enough air due to the high airspeed it will do its thing. No problem. The only thing is how do you convince a client? "Results dont lie" or so they say say..
@oloflarsson7629
@oloflarsson7629 2 жыл бұрын
There have been a number of ramje powered missiles. 2K11, 2K12, Bristol Bloodhound, BrahMos, Bomarc, Hsiung Feng III, Kh-31, MBDA ASMP, MBDA Meteor, P-270 Moskit, P-800 Oniks, RIM-8 Talos, Sea Dart, SM-64 Navaho. The MBDA Meteor was the first with a solid fuel ramjet.
@trungnguyenhoang6821
@trungnguyenhoang6821 4 жыл бұрын
How does it gain speed to Mach 3 for ramjet to work tho?
@YaR0MyR
@YaR0MyR 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely it needs the first stage launching engine, either the launching vessel has to move adequately fast. In reality it does not need all Mach3 for ramjet start working, however it is the optimal speed for the most effective functioning begin.
@tarjei99
@tarjei99 4 жыл бұрын
The problem with high speed long range anti aircraft missiles is that they are easy to evade due to the laws of physics. Think of Bugs Bunny sidestepping a raging bull. The higher the speed difference, the harder the target is to hit. I suppose this is why the Meteor missile contains a restartable ramjet motor.
@steffennilsen2132
@steffennilsen2132 3 жыл бұрын
This missile likely wont be much faster than a conventional missile, but it will retain the launch speed for much much longer. Aircraft have strict G limits, and usually contains a pilot that has a limit as well, they cannot out turn a mach 3-5 missile that can often withstand G forces 3 times higher. Long range air to air missiles are usually defeated by letting them bleed velocity, something which will be far harder to do against a missile with effectively 5 more fuel
@tarjei99
@tarjei99 3 жыл бұрын
Steffen Nilsen You need to update yourself on the laws of physics. In order to out turn a fighter, a missile must sustain several hundred G. The slower the missile, the less G is needed.
@FrankHelle
@FrankHelle 2 жыл бұрын
It is actually opposite. The more kinetic energy a missile has, the larger the no escape zone is. The Meteor missile, for example, enlarges the NEZ by increasing speed just before impact. But how can this be when a fast-going object requires more force to turn? Yes, the plane can make sharper turns, but the distance traveled at a new angle is meaningless if the speed of the projectile is much greater. Consider a projectile from a gun hitting a running person. Sure, the person can turn, but it will not help him dodge because of the high speed of the bullet.
@sagittarius_a_starr
@sagittarius_a_starr 2 жыл бұрын
I knew it! The "jet engine was invented in the 1040s," several decades before the Battle of Hastings. Which is why--as I've always said--William the Conqueror had F-14s, and the Normans won the battle, because with their old propeller-fighters, the English couldn't maintain air-superiority.... i know, it's a simple mistake. but i found it funny to imagine. I thought ramjets were already in our current missiles, I'm surprised that they aren't. i see in the comments many have mentioned working with ramjet missiles or rockets, since the 1950s.... so I'm a bit confused as to why they were not already standard.
@xXBobbyXx86
@xXBobbyXx86 3 жыл бұрын
Even spacex boosters?
@pingwingugu5
@pingwingugu5 4 жыл бұрын
A lot of people point that ramjets are nothing new and it is true. The thing is that ramjets were mostly limited to large missiles like Bristol Bloodhound (2,2t) and RIM-8 Talos (3.5t). Soviets had some smaller ones like 2k12 KUB (600kg) but their range isn't that impressive. Rockets won (are more widely used) because they are simpler to design, control and deploy in field. You have your own oxidizer so you can control the burn more easily making a rocket easier to operate in wide range of weather conditions. With ramjets you need to take into account atmospheric conditions, because they take the oxidizer from the air. The thing is, that now we have much better computers both in macro and micro scale and this changes everything. We have powerful supercomputers with sophisticated fluid dynamic models so we can design simpler engines tuned to wider range of speeds and conditions. We also have incredibly fast and light computers and sensors that can control those engines in real time. Modern computers give us a big opportunity to make smaller, simpler and more reliable ramjets then before. Compare it to multi rotor drones and helicopters. Multi rotors are nothing new, a lot of the early helicopters were multi rotors like prototype of Sikorsky VS-300 (1940). What made modern multi rotors so successful is control systems. You do not need fancy mechanical blade pitch control if you have multiple propellers and can independently control their speeds fast enough. So we went from hard to pilot, expensive and impossible to miniaturize helicopters, to easy and cheap multi rotors, some of them size of a matchstick box and easy enough to be pilot by a 7 year old in their bedrooms.
@jamesmorton7881
@jamesmorton7881 4 жыл бұрын
? how to get that initial required velocity ?
@StormBringare
@StormBringare 4 жыл бұрын
On an airplane it's obvious, it already have enough speed. From the ground or a vehicle, a booster unit with a conventional rocket provide initial thrust.
@sameerthakur720
@sameerthakur720 4 жыл бұрын
The ram-rocket technology used on missiles like SA-6.
@handyadams3319
@handyadams3319 4 жыл бұрын
Germans used ramjet missiles called the V-1 and used a catapult to attain velocity to enable the ramjet
@joukopentikainen2360
@joukopentikainen2360 4 жыл бұрын
Not ramjet, v1 was pulsejet
@deven6518
@deven6518 4 жыл бұрын
the 1040's?
@FabioEast
@FabioEast 2 жыл бұрын
The only problem is: Ramjets need to be accelerated to supersonic by a traditional rocket first, until they reach higher supersonic speeds. They are not very efficient yet.
@VaupellGaming
@VaupellGaming 2 жыл бұрын
I thought that ramjust was only operating in the mach 3 to 6 range, and that's why the scramjet was invented to exceed this limit.
@jebise1126
@jebise1126 5 ай бұрын
no... its 1,5 - 3,5 or something like that
@leenonolee4629
@leenonolee4629 2 жыл бұрын
The illustration showed 100% fuel. What gets the rocket up to speed? Surely an oxidizer is needed to get the rocket to speed before the ramjet works successfully???
@mecho68
@mecho68 2 жыл бұрын
Supersonic rockets with long range technologies, this is not bad, but we already are talking about hypersonic rockets developed by Russians and Chinese.
@glz1
@glz1 4 жыл бұрын
you still have to get their 3000 mph
@deepblueskyshine
@deepblueskyshine 2 жыл бұрын
Aren't initiatially developed in USSR russian heavy P-800 Oniks, exported as Yakhont and licensed in India as Brahmos ramjet driven? Previous soviet generation Granit and following after Oniks - Alfa are also ramjets. And as far as I remember first in late 50s early 60s till 90s long range SAMs in USA, UK and USSR second stages were also ramjet driven. If I'm not mistaken in the USSR GIRD tested ramjet in the 30s before first prototype turbojets were tested in UK and Germany.
@einkokamient8053
@einkokamient8053 3 жыл бұрын
What you mean further then today what futuristic life you be livin
@sebastianreyes8025
@sebastianreyes8025 Жыл бұрын
Cool, now instead of using solid rocket propeller to get to mach speeds, use a rail gun
@arieltraasdahl-xh6ri
@arieltraasdahl-xh6ri 7 ай бұрын
That is the most game-changing technological innovation that I've seen in a very long time. That is absolutely brilliant. I am very proud to be descended from Norwegians. -Ariel Isaac Traasdahl #Ihaveahighschooleducation 💀♠️🎯
@foreverpinkf.7603
@foreverpinkf.7603 3 жыл бұрын
What about payload?
@patkelley4071
@patkelley4071 4 жыл бұрын
Nothing new. The US Navy's Talos missile was a ramjet powered antiair weapon launched from a ship, and had a range of over 250 km (130 miles), and altitude ceiling of over 80,000 feet, and a speed of Mach 2.5.
@1HeatWalk
@1HeatWalk 2 жыл бұрын
This is the same concept for today's hypersonic missiles and glide vehicles?
@barrenwizard
@barrenwizard 3 жыл бұрын
Uthred Ragnarsson, is that you?
@ipanrblx6346
@ipanrblx6346 2 жыл бұрын
I agree that the jet engine was invented in 1040
@mayanksoni8465
@mayanksoni8465 4 жыл бұрын
Wooooooooooooooo
@kraftrad7840
@kraftrad7840 3 жыл бұрын
WHat is new here? The Meteor and other missiles have this propulsion too
@antonleimbach648
@antonleimbach648 11 ай бұрын
Let’s see how it works for an ICBM!
@girirajpalaniswamy1903
@girirajpalaniswamy1903 4 жыл бұрын
I am sure the Ramjet can take the missiles further.But there is need for more powerful Radars and better guidance.I believe Indo Russia Joint venture Brahmos has both,apparently good for 500-600 kms.Russia has better missiles in Kalibr,S-400 and Zircon systems using scram Jet engines.
@ApplyWithCaution
@ApplyWithCaution 4 жыл бұрын
... where will the warhead be located ...
@sprungmonkey6inches
@sprungmonkey6inches 3 жыл бұрын
1:40 cannot be shot from a 155mm. it's got fins
@randomgamerhd3685
@randomgamerhd3685 4 жыл бұрын
One example if a operational missile Brahmos supersonic cruise missile
@The-Vega-Islands
@The-Vega-Islands 3 жыл бұрын
And still a liqud fuel ramjet.
@NitrousBanshee
@NitrousBanshee 4 жыл бұрын
The problem is that that type of engine needs to be moving very fast before it can be lit. Something like 2 or 3 times the speed of sound. So it cant be lit from a stand still.
@1Maklak
@1Maklak 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, but fighter jets can reach that speeds, so maybe the missile wouldn't need anything fancy to start the ramjet.
@yunikage
@yunikage 4 жыл бұрын
why would you be firing air to air missiles while the plane isnt moving
@arashizou2934
@arashizou2934 4 жыл бұрын
Could be added to a first stage rocket engine if launched from the ground or a ship.
@possiblyadickhead6653
@possiblyadickhead6653 4 жыл бұрын
Yea there is always a first stage rocket, lock at the propulsion of the meteor. It has two motors in one.
@digitalnomad9985
@digitalnomad9985 4 жыл бұрын
It becomes more efficient at supersonic speeds, but ramjets can be lit at Mach .5 and are reasonably efficient at speeds as low as just under the speed of sound (to accelerate to higher speeds), which is jet airliner speed and about the slowest (say) a fighter is going to be going in a situation in which it would contemplate firing a missile. kzfaq.info?redir_token=J-OqxzlEuRp6dslES8lD71aIqrN8MTU5MTAxNTQ0NUAxNTkwOTI5MDQ1&stzid=UgzaCS724jboqrCwy0t4AaABAg.98yho_NSvfZ995_JpxUk5G&q=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FRamjet&event=comments
@coreahellwig181
@coreahellwig181 4 жыл бұрын
Sowas kostet den Steuerzahler dann wieder Millionen, dabei kann es fast jeder in der Garage selber machen
@allineedis1mike81
@allineedis1mike81 9 ай бұрын
When can I get this in a 12 guage slug?😁
@sunshinecloudy
@sunshinecloudy 2 жыл бұрын
Except with stealth technology, how is an AA mobile radar going to track a target 500km away? The return signal will be too faint to track. The missile will have to have a sophisticated autonomous radar onboard. Distance from launch sight will be a problem.
@pickinthatbanjo
@pickinthatbanjo Жыл бұрын
Firing on a datalinked target that a separate radar is targeting would work. Some missiles in service already can do this
@sunshinecloudy
@sunshinecloudy Жыл бұрын
@@pickinthatbanjo Active countermeasures will spoof any active homing radar on a missile, I would expect.
@pickinthatbanjo
@pickinthatbanjo Жыл бұрын
@@sunshinecloudy Current generation missiles like the AIM-120C faired exceptionally well against countermeasures with a success rate of over ninety percent. I imagine the D variant improved upon that as would any modern missile. You seem to overestimate a search radars ability to pickup a target with an exceedingly low cross section.
@ivansalinovic1736
@ivansalinovic1736 4 жыл бұрын
Soviet missile 2k12 KUB is with second stage ramjet propulsion since 1967. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2K12_Kub
@Slavkovic_Predrag
@Slavkovic_Predrag 2 жыл бұрын
Wikipedia us wrong like most of the times. KUB doesn't have ramjet nor any liquid fueled engine. KUB has solid rocket motors for both stages one is booster other sustainer. S200 did have liquid fueled second stage most likely ramjet while s75 dvina had regular liquid fueled rocket engine .
@karthikeyanak9460
@karthikeyanak9460 3 жыл бұрын
The Brahmos has already got it a decade ago. What's new about it?
@rogermas6087
@rogermas6087 Жыл бұрын
Its a secret. Norway have test it. All work fine. US what it next year.
@collin2097
@collin2097 3 жыл бұрын
WHY IS THE NARRATOR SO WEIRD
@waqarghanisial2504
@waqarghanisial2504 2 жыл бұрын
2:23
@stevoplex
@stevoplex 4 жыл бұрын
Atmospheric oxygen is only 21% of the air, and the density of the air diminishes with altitude. This puts a real constraint on the performance of the engine, and limits the operating parameters of the missile. Cruise Missiles in current use already use jet propulsion, as far back as the Nazi V-1.
@Geolaminar
@Geolaminar 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, this is marketing BS, but a ramjet shouldn't be much more affected by this than a conventional jet engine. Less, actualy, since it's able to attain higher speeds (and potentialy compression ratios) right? Unless you're talking about the narrow performance window of a given fuel grain design.
@superandreanintendo
@superandreanintendo 4 жыл бұрын
They are saying speed and ranges, but nothing really about G turns those can pull. In a fight for aerial supremacy a fighter could just pull a S turn and make the missile go in a complete diffenece way. Not to mention the low speed retention a ramjet has compared to a rocket
@superandreanintendo
@superandreanintendo 4 жыл бұрын
Different
@Geolaminar
@Geolaminar 4 жыл бұрын
Low speed retention? But you are right, ramjets can suffer from flameout if their intakes are starved. I do hear solid fueled ramjets recover particularly quickly, and the missile can still turn just fine even after flameout on inertia alone. Also, i am very suspicious of the idea that a sufficiently optimized intake would be starved of air simpily due to a high-gee turn. Ramjets have been tried as tipjets for helicopters, where forces exceeding 100G are sustained for hours at a time.
@svobodat59
@svobodat59 4 жыл бұрын
Good idea. Though it has been operational since 1968 as part of the russian Kub missile. See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2K12_Kub
@Lobos222
@Lobos222 4 жыл бұрын
They also used tanks in ww1, so I guess there is zero difference between that and a modern tank... /sarcasm
@YaR0MyR
@YaR0MyR 3 жыл бұрын
@@Lobos222 you've just proved you're a crank...
@Slavkovic_Predrag
@Slavkovic_Predrag 2 жыл бұрын
Kub has two stage solid rocket motor no ramjet. S200 probably has ramjet.
@svobodat59
@svobodat59 2 жыл бұрын
@@Slavkovic_Predrag AFAIK BUK launches as bipropellant solid rocket then the chamber burns through and turns into a ramjet.
@Slavkovic_Predrag
@Slavkovic_Predrag 2 жыл бұрын
@@svobodat59 how can that be when it has no air intakes lol. Idk where you got that idea from.
@Govt.Of_Wakanda
@Govt.Of_Wakanda 3 жыл бұрын
Common Air breathing Ram jets are not new... We have been using them since ages now...
@user-ro9zf9kz1h
@user-ro9zf9kz1h 3 жыл бұрын
The American have those during the cold war, talos missile uses a ram jet and have a range of 180km, but those aren't used anymore because Ramsey are far more complex than solid rocket motor.
@jeffjefferson2676
@jeffjefferson2676 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe you can kill an airplane with a howitzer?
@poucxs9246
@poucxs9246 4 жыл бұрын
Who's thinking of daft punk? ( harder better faster stronger :-P )
@NeoRipshaft
@NeoRipshaft 3 жыл бұрын
booooooo misleading thumbnail, I was expecting a prototype launch. Think we all know it'd be amazing if it's able to be done effectively, the problem is doing it =D
@douglascasey3486
@douglascasey3486 2 жыл бұрын
Why not use such great technology for something besides killing?
@MrAnders9000
@MrAnders9000 Жыл бұрын
Yes why have self defense weapons at all?
@anindyamukhopadhyay8
@anindyamukhopadhyay8 4 жыл бұрын
Ramjet is there since many years. Russian defence industries have been using this technology for a while. We Indians manged to develop the fastest antiship land attack cruise system which has an ability to be launched from air surface and submarines. This invention of yours is a truely a game changer Now the only challenge remains that is to make it even lighter. BRAMHOS NG will b tested for the 1st time in 2021-2022.
@gogo8965
@gogo8965 4 жыл бұрын
BRAHMOS is a ramjet
@sameerthakur720
@sameerthakur720 4 жыл бұрын
Also Akash and its original, the SA-6.
@Zondruska
@Zondruska 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks KZfaq, until today I wasn´t even aware that I am on the market for high-tech long-range missiles.
@bryanrussell6679
@bryanrussell6679 2 жыл бұрын
Damn, a 5-6 minute burn time is no joke. That's a long time.
@Ahmad-sd4cg
@Ahmad-sd4cg 4 жыл бұрын
Biggest invention since the jet engine is taking it too far!
@matthewhodge9748
@matthewhodge9748 4 жыл бұрын
They're engineers, let them justify their lifestyles xD.
@brandonl8039
@brandonl8039 4 жыл бұрын
Conveniently doesn’t address the problem with a ramjet missile, you have the get ramjets up to speed before they work. Such clear marketing bs without addressing fundamental limitations.
@superandreanintendo
@superandreanintendo 4 жыл бұрын
Yes. And as I said in one comment previously, they aren't even talking about G turns and speed retention, which is the thing that still make short air to air the best choice in a dogfight
@jeffspinner6579
@jeffspinner6579 3 жыл бұрын
It's amazing that ramjets were first conceived and patented in 1913, worked on in WWI and WWII, in the US in the 1950s, and NOW, now it's slowly moving into production? I actually wonder what technology the public isn't allowed to know about is atm, because the plausibility that there are no working weapons, planes, etc., using ram or scramjets is impossible given the US spent ~50 Trillion dollars on defense over the years. I want to be in the break away society that has the actual tech, it really does suck to be a pleb in the Western world.
@sal166
@sal166 2 жыл бұрын
It sounds like you would be a pleb in any world, you just like exterior forces to blame for your shortcomings
@oloflarsson7629
@oloflarsson7629 2 жыл бұрын
Thera have been a number of ramje powered missiles. 2K11, 2K12, Bristol Bloodhound, BrahMos, Bomarc, Hsiung Feng III, Kh-31, MBDA ASMP, MBDA Meteor, P-270 Moskit, P-800 Oniks, RIM-8 Talos, Sea Dart, SM-64 Navaho. The MBDA Meteor was the first with a solid fuel ramjet.
@82NeXus
@82NeXus 2 жыл бұрын
Do more googling. Ramjets have been used on planes and missiles for decades. The SR-71 Blackbird for one! I believe it has dual mode engines which are turbojets at low speed and ramjets at high speed.
@jeffspinner6579
@jeffspinner6579 2 жыл бұрын
You guys don't read comments and reply? I'm a native engrish (sic) speaker, what am I missing here, and what didn't you understand about my comment?
@82NeXus
@82NeXus 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeffspinner6579 I understood your comment but it appears to be incorrect. That's why you got the replies.
@cageordie
@cageordie 5 ай бұрын
Inventions are new things. Ramjets were used in many missiles before, including Bloodhound and Sea Dart made by my company. Nothing new about ramjets.
@sunshinecloudy
@sunshinecloudy Жыл бұрын
The SR-71 used ramjets too. Turbojet at low speed, then conversion to ramjet at high speed.
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