Randy Travis' AI-Generated Song Has Me Conflicted

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Grady Smith

Grady Smith

3 ай бұрын

Randy Travis' "Where That Came From," was produced using AI-vocals. I both find it incredible that technology can give a performer his voice back, annnnd I don't like the precedent that this sets.
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@zachturnermusic
@zachturnermusic 3 ай бұрын
Honestly, if Randy didn’t have a part in it I’d be more against it. There’s a real band, real songwriters and he had a huge part in it. It makes sense 🤷🏻‍♂️
@ericfleischauer5863
@ericfleischauer5863 3 ай бұрын
He didn't write the song. He didn't sing it. How did he have a freaking part in it?
@wandaalvarez117
@wandaalvarez117 3 ай бұрын
Agree
@steveleeart
@steveleeart 3 ай бұрын
Exactly.
@steveleeart
@steveleeart 3 ай бұрын
@@ericfleischauer5863he wouldn’t let people do this if he didn’t trust the process.
@ericfleischauer5863
@ericfleischauer5863 3 ай бұрын
@@steveleeart we don't know if he has any person agency as it is. He comes across like he has dementia.
@courtney.22
@courtney.22 3 ай бұрын
I personally think Randy has earned the right to do this, and it was done pretty tastefully and sounds exactly like him
@bestversion8159
@bestversion8159 3 ай бұрын
Do what? As far as I can tell he didn't do anything.
@courtney.22
@courtney.22 3 ай бұрын
@@bestversion8159 use AI for a song
@bradenkylegreen
@bradenkylegreen 3 ай бұрын
@@bestversion8159AI
@frankfarms83
@frankfarms83 3 ай бұрын
Once. And that’s it
@savannahrosenight5904
@savannahrosenight5904 3 ай бұрын
Leave him alone
@somedude1901
@somedude1901 3 ай бұрын
Ultimately this comes down to people’s fear and inability to accept and come to terms with death. We can’t accept that artists we love (and therefore ourselves) will inevitably age, grow ill, and at some point, die, and we’re trying to subvert that reality by immortalizing music with AI.
@CanditoTrainingHQ
@CanditoTrainingHQ 3 ай бұрын
I think it's much more about centralized labels replacing the power of individuals, than anything else. If death didn't exist, this would still be a major long term conflict of ownership eventually. We will live to see vocal samples being sold full-sale, and then the artist goes home.
@JeddorianJalapeno
@JeddorianJalapeno 3 ай бұрын
Phenomenal talented songwriter had a stroke but has the creativity and the wherewithal to use the technology to incorporate in creation of more music using himself. That's on him and for no one else to criticize
@EDGeProjects
@EDGeProjects 3 ай бұрын
If Randy wants it, let him have it. It's his life.
@eli-bt4he
@eli-bt4he 3 ай бұрын
My opinion is that it would be wrong to tell Randy Travis that he isn't allowed to use available technology to put out music. That, imo, is no different than telling him he can't use text to voice technology to speak. Let the general public decide whether it is something that they want to listen to or not. The actual ethical question is whether it's okay to use the voice of a person who is deceased or otherwise not able to consent.
@luke_cohen1
@luke_cohen1 3 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t mind tracks that were either demos or half finished at the time of passing that the artist really wanted to finish up got completed using AI with the consent of their estate and the help of the producers who were already helping produce the tracks in question. Otherwise, leave it alone.
@PenaltyKillah
@PenaltyKillah 3 ай бұрын
@luke_cohen1 Nice, just like what Paul did with John's vocals for the Beatles' Now and Then
@danieldaniels7571
@danieldaniels7571 2 ай бұрын
@@PenaltyKillahthat was actually John’s vocal, though. AI was just used to strip the piano from the vocal recording.
@PenaltyKillah
@PenaltyKillah 2 ай бұрын
@@danieldaniels7571 Exactly... I was replying to the comment above me by luke_cohen1.
@kikirodriguez8293
@kikirodriguez8293 Ай бұрын
Well said. I agree with you. I had no problem with Hank Jr. using footage of Hank Sr. to make videos. It all boils down to individual circumstances.
@JD200_
@JD200_ 3 ай бұрын
I don’t mind this as long as the artist is on board. I think that there should be a note beside the vocalists indicating that it’s AI
@Jay-sl9jo
@Jay-sl9jo 3 ай бұрын
Should we also have "Melodyne/auto-tune assisted" next to the vocalists name? Where do we draw the line where a vocal is natural or computer assisted?
@brainbonkk
@brainbonkk 3 ай бұрын
@@Jay-sl9jo the line is at A.I. just like the original comment stated. and it's pretty obvious why. don't be dense.
@Jay-sl9jo
@Jay-sl9jo 3 ай бұрын
​@@brainbonkk What makes using A.I. so different from using tons of plugins and editing? They're different solutions to the same problem. One is just newer and better. Not trying to be dense here, I like thinking about things like this. Or maybe I just like being dense.
@brainbonkk
@brainbonkk 3 ай бұрын
@@Jay-sl9jo on one side you're augmentating an artist's performance, but it's still that performance. and on the other you're creating one whole cloth, usually using stolen data from non-consenting artists. in this example, you're augmentating one person's performance to make it appear to be another person. this being something of an edge case / unicorn example where the artist has consented does not negate any of that. it is literally illegal to for a company to advertise one thing and sell you another. so yeah, either dense or extraordinarily bad at "thinking."
@calebqueen2090
@calebqueen2090 3 ай бұрын
I completely get it on Randy Travis’ end, I just wish there was more honesty about it before the release, and I hope this isn’t a doorway for other artists to do the same
@FormLL
@FormLL 3 ай бұрын
They talked bout it on a show about it
@EricNoneless
@EricNoneless 3 ай бұрын
It's unstoppable the fact of other artists do the same.
@krisrhebergen
@krisrhebergen 3 ай бұрын
I don’t think there was really any lack of transparency.
@SHANNONANDROD
@SHANNONANDROD 2 ай бұрын
There was never a lack of transparency. They have been 100% clear as to what this was. Perhaps you are confusing your own assumptions instead of looking at the actual facts. Just because you heard a song and didn’t realize it was AI assisted doesn’t mean THEY were misleading you, bottom line is….YOU did not educate yourself. There is a huge difference and believing one’s own assumptions and actually seeking facts. If this was not a case of you tripping up on your own assumptions, then Show me the posts, videos, or anything that shows they have not been honest, otherwise, seek knowledge, life is much smoother this way.
@Barrett-tq7pq
@Barrett-tq7pq 3 ай бұрын
I'm not conflicted at all. Randy deserves this.
@bjcarew
@bjcarew 3 ай бұрын
i like that it is used if the artist is alive but if they are dead, let the dead rest. i am sorta on the fence of AI.
@iankosky1724
@iankosky1724 3 ай бұрын
3:46 On the other hand there’s a golden band to remind me of someone who would not understand
@CanditoTrainingHQ
@CanditoTrainingHQ 3 ай бұрын
There's something funny about the Warner CEO saying we need to see the optimism in AI. Like yeah, we understood there is an upside for you to make money. That was never in question.
@audiophileman7047
@audiophileman7047 3 ай бұрын
A technology by itself isn't evil or good. How a technology is used determines whether or not it is good or bad. AI is here, and it's not going away. We must create laws, regulations, and rules for its use in the same way we do for other technologies that have the potential to have undesirable impacts when misused. I'm overjoyed that Randy has found a way to now experience happiness again through his new AI assisted music. He is involved in its production, and he decides whether or not it is acceptable for release. Only an artist and his or her family when the artist is no longer alive should have the authority to use AI to replicate an artist's voice. An artist should also have the ability through his last Will & Testament to not allow his or her voice to be used by AI for developing songs after he or she is no longer alive.
@CyrusWaugh
@CyrusWaugh 3 ай бұрын
9:36 Never thought you’d reference Hatsune Miku and yet here we are
@josephtafur
@josephtafur 3 ай бұрын
Me either
@dragonkfg
@dragonkfg 3 ай бұрын
Me either
@paisleepunk
@paisleepunk 3 ай бұрын
truck is mine (it'd be real funny if miku got in on the pop stars tryin' country craze)
@TheViolaBuddy
@TheViolaBuddy 3 ай бұрын
@@paisleepunk As both a Vocaloid fan and a country fan, I'd love for more (or, uh, any?) Vocaloid country songs.
@fireflygaming8764
@fireflygaming8764 3 ай бұрын
​@@TheViolaBuddyHonestly that would be cool! Just need to know how to use the program.
@GrantH
@GrantH 3 ай бұрын
Pandora’s box is fully opened now. I understand the argument of “it’s technically his own voice, he can do what he wants with it,” but I think amongst the general public, trust between artist and consumer will be permanently broken the more and more this happens.
@debbiehale2509
@debbiehale2509 3 ай бұрын
Is auto tune real?
@dontfallyoumighthurtyourse4694
@dontfallyoumighthurtyourse4694 3 ай бұрын
Most people don’t care as long as it sounds good.
@keepingitreal71
@keepingitreal71 3 ай бұрын
Most music today SUCKS... Hearing the new song is like the Good old days when music was music... More power to Randy...
@juliejohnson3835
@juliejohnson3835 3 ай бұрын
Ever hear madonna live vs recorded music? She and many others wouldn't have a career without computers fixing their lousy voices.
@christa526
@christa526 3 ай бұрын
Prince would NEVER want anything released that he did not have full creative control over. You are so right, this is almost how I believe AI will insidiously permeate our world, beginning with a gracious looking gesture than then opens a can of worms. There is no chance this is going to stay "super organic and nice." Love you, Grady and Love Randy Travis always
@JeddorianJalapeno
@JeddorianJalapeno 3 ай бұрын
Most of the popchart music of Prince has dated trashy sounding keyboards ..never understood the high esteem afforded his work
@JeddorianJalapeno
@JeddorianJalapeno 3 ай бұрын
It's already been demonstrated that groups that are out there still performing like the eagles commonly lip sync to recordings of their own voices so this example is even a little more honest in its presentation
@lowenbad
@lowenbad 25 күн бұрын
Prince sang so differently from song to song, I honestly don’t know how a Prince AI model could even work.
@JacobBarbee-jf4fy
@JacobBarbee-jf4fy 3 ай бұрын
Randy's there, but just can't make magic like he used to. But with a little help, he can pervey his thoughts. Kinda like a studio tape vs release that's alot more polished. Its Randy's O.K. that made this a certified song he approves of, how he'd do it, did it and still kinda doing it.
@JamesWilliams-gr4el
@JamesWilliams-gr4el 3 ай бұрын
I was listening to the radio this morning where we talked about it. He said he really wanted to capture the heart and soul of his voice. And he hopes to come back soon actually singing. In my opinion he’s doing it exactly right. The problem I have with the whole AI thing is that you can have an artist say songs aren’t AI when they actually are.
@Chamomileable
@Chamomileable 3 ай бұрын
I think people are taking this all the wrong way. The music is real human musicians. The lyrics are real human writers. The voice model was made using 40+ voice masters by Randy. Randy was along every step of the way. Engineering was used to mix and master the song. Randy is making this choice and I believe that the tears of joy he and his family cried hearing the song speaks for itself. I think that as far as use-cases go, this is the best possible way to do it. I would never want this used after his passing to keep making money on his name, but I don't see this happening. As for your second point, Blue Oyster Cult are doing that. Their new album is all tracks that were either uncovered demos, damaged live recordings, etc etc that were remastered using AI to remove crowd noise, recording damage, etc, then remixed with the band performing new parts. "Don't Come Running To Me" features the final performance of Alan Lanier, whose family was able to hear a part he recorded decades ago remastered and usable in a studio track.
@bluewheels3980
@bluewheels3980 3 ай бұрын
I love Randy Travis, and as a country music fan with a disability I look up to Randy. Having said that, I think James Dupre, the artist whose vocals were laid over, deserves his own career. I've been watching him on KZfaq for over a decade. Randy has had his moment
@debbiehale2509
@debbiehale2509 3 ай бұрын
That's not for you to decide!
@danicee
@danicee 3 ай бұрын
That’s exactly what I was thinking. The artist that actually sang the song deserves the chance to perform and receive credit, as well.
@kimberlyanderson3672
@kimberlyanderson3672 3 ай бұрын
James has been preforming for Randy on the More Life Tour. If he wanted to do something else he would be, but he obviously loves what he’s doing
@danicee
@danicee 3 ай бұрын
@@kimberlyanderson3672 that might be a contract between James and the label, though
@bluewheels3980
@bluewheels3980 3 ай бұрын
@debbiehale2509 I never said I am the arbiter of the country music industry. If I were Dolly Parton, Emmylou Harris Suzy Bogguss, Pam Tillis, Kathy Mattea Wynonna Judd, Martina McBride, Ricky Van Shelton, Billy Dean, LeAnn Womack, LeAnn Rimes, Trisha Yearwood, Lorrie Morgan, Willie Nelson, and Vince Gill would have never left regular Radio country airplay and Anita Cochran would have been huge. Beyonce would ecorded a much more traditional country album. She would have blown out of the water had she actually tried. However, I do not hold such power. Therefore, all I did was express an opinion, something to which everyone is entitled, nothing more, nothing less. My thoughts are not up to you to determine
@andrewupshaw6002
@andrewupshaw6002 3 ай бұрын
I kinda thought that it was AI I can’t stand how AI is taking over the music industry
@stephaniemarie7696
@stephaniemarie7696 3 ай бұрын
I think it’s incredible that Randy Travis has new music out. As a Randy Travis fan since his first release, I’m thrilled to hear his vocals again. Which they are, even taken digitally. Music genres use all types of technology to change or alter their music. This is his voice, just prerecorded and altered. It brought tears to my eyes listening the first time. Randy Travis has a beautiful voice, I’m glad to hear him again.
@PenaltyKillah
@PenaltyKillah 3 ай бұрын
Who's to say this isn't AI-generated Grady already? The lighting is a little too perfect 🤔
@GradySmith
@GradySmith 3 ай бұрын
!!!!
@vitrock1
@vitrock1 3 ай бұрын
Just another form of computer-generated art that's been around for years. Enjoy it! ❤
@danieldaniels7571
@danieldaniels7571 2 ай бұрын
@@GradySmithbusted!
@johnpierce2095
@johnpierce2095 3 ай бұрын
he didnt really sing it though, someone else sang it and they filtered randys voice over it, SO yea this is gonna open up pandoras box, its all computers and not real
@bestversion8159
@bestversion8159 3 ай бұрын
I don't think he did *anything* with it. He didn't write it or arranged it or anything.
@AimingWanderously
@AimingWanderously 3 ай бұрын
But this was Randy's project, so with the absence of his own voice, this is as close as HE can get (and us, too), therefore it's all good. Right? I think so.
@johnpierce2095
@johnpierce2095 3 ай бұрын
@@AimingWanderously nope, pretty soon their gonna start bring back dead singers with new songs out
@JackBrinker1
@JackBrinker1 3 ай бұрын
Computers ARE REAL, they’ve been faking every instrument you can imagine for decades. I played an electronic organ at church in the 1960s. We’ve been using vocal enhancements (volume, reverb, etc) for even longer. Finally, somewhere the sound of most voices have near-identical duplicate although few have attempted to locate the pairs. Uniqueness most certainly exists but similarity also exists at varying levels. I expect that eventually, thousands of artificial vocal emulators will be available…why? because they have value just as faces, movements/dance, and hair, ideas etc have value. Well adjusted to yet another REALITY.
@AimingWanderously
@AimingWanderously 3 ай бұрын
@@johnpierce2095 "pretty soon" maybe, but that's not what happened here. We're talking about THIS song, with Randy's blessing and involvement, no?
@melissamoore9764
@melissamoore9764 3 ай бұрын
I am excited for Randy Travis! He was right there in the recording studio when this new music was being recorded. On his Facebook right now Randy has a post where he is thanking us the fans. They used 42 vocal tracks of his. I have been his fan since 1986. Randy deserves to be able to put out new music. We need to support Randy Travis.
@shawngroth4292
@shawngroth4292 3 ай бұрын
I think, in this situation - AI is being used in the right way. The artist is alive and involved in the process. And they are being public about it. I love the song.
@lawrencemaxwellmusic
@lawrencemaxwellmusic 3 ай бұрын
I'm not sure if it was intentional, but I appreciate your comparisons using "on one hand" and "on the other hand" - I couldn't help but singing along to the Randy tune in my head
@berlyn3014
@berlyn3014 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for putting what I'm feeling into words. My immediate thought when I heard was awesome for Randy. But then I almost instantly got this feeling in the pit of my stomach that it's not going to be long (if it's not already happening) until companies are going to take vocals an artist has recorded and do the same thing for a whole album without consent.
@Ethan-ro6cu
@Ethan-ro6cu 3 ай бұрын
Yes me too, I don’t know how to feel about it. Randy Travis is a legend but I don’t know how to feel knowing it’s ai. Keep it up man. Have a good day!
@ShawnBrockMusic
@ShawnBrockMusic 3 ай бұрын
I lived and worked in Nashville in the early 2000s, and I am forever thankful, because we were still in a time period where people had to actually be able to sing and write. it's not that there was no vocal tuning going on, but it was so subtle, and used as a tool to save some time and the artist's voice. now when I hear "country" on the radio, the tuning is so hard lined that the vocal could have easily been done in one take. This carries over to the Quality, or lack there of, and the live performance, where artists lip sync these days and it is accepted. I tried out a couple of these AI writing apps, and I am convinced it is riding most of this garbage that appears on the radio. I would be further more convinced that it is creating the melodies; if anyone don't believe me, just download one, and for the prompt, put in dirt road, jacked up truck, girl, drinking whiskey at a barn, bonfire, and it will generate whimsical lyrics that sounds like what you hear on the top 40. I love Randy Travis, and I'm glad that he was able to do this, but what is to keep me from doing a duet album with clones of every artist I have ever admired? yes, maybe there are some states where I actually couldn't use the name of The Voice I cloned, but if I don't give credit to anyone, is it still illegal? how can you sue me for a voice on a record, when said Voice really doesn't exist? It's only the human perception that this imitation is that voice. AI abilities to strip each track from a song have been around forever, and I have even used it as a practice tool. I can strip vocals, spoken word from interviews, and compile a composite of a persons voice, that will be a dead ringer, even though I have never actually done it. I know I can, because of my ear in music, performance, and abilities as an audio engineer. it can generate the album cover, and then a music video. it seems like we are living in an updated version of the movie Pure Country. furthermore, I have worked as a studio musician for several record labels, and had albums on a two different labels, and contractually, there are many people dead or alive, who won't have a choice in the matter if the label wants to put a likeness of them on anything they see fit. perhaps the only difference between one of us and these labels is, the label could actually use the name and appearance without ramification. in the end, it will all be artistic hijacking, and we are all used to that, but this will be on a whole new level.
@ElliottPrather
@ElliottPrather 3 ай бұрын
For me, what sets guys like Randy Travis apart from other artists is their natural ability to sing and deliver a heartfelt performance. While the AI is convincing, at the end of the day it’s not Randy. That said, it warms my heart that he’s able to make new music in any capacity.
@christinasherman6966
@christinasherman6966 3 ай бұрын
My local radio station played the song last week when it came out and at the time the DJ said he thought it was an old song from the vault. I listened to it and thought "it should have stayed in the vault, it has no soul". Now I know why I felt that way. Not a fan of the idea of AI songs, it feels like a Pandora's Box of problems.
@annmarie3573
@annmarie3573 3 ай бұрын
I thought the same! I could tell something was off.
@brockpifer9929
@brockpifer9929 3 ай бұрын
8:19 - 8:32 that song that your friend made for your birthday sounded awesome!
@JasonHalversonjaydog
@JasonHalversonjaydog 3 ай бұрын
I've heard new versions of songs "sung" by passed on artists like Johnny Cash with new words added to old melodies. And you couldn't tell it was AI if you didn't know
@catofmanygrievances3772
@catofmanygrievances3772 3 ай бұрын
I think the song sounds great, but I'm also near-certain the reason this was all done in such a scrupulously ethical way is to boost PR for this technology being used in music. In reality, this is an edge case, and this technology is absolutely going to be spun in increasingly uncomfortable directions within the year. Also, unrelated, but listen to Holler Choir.
@danieldaniels7571
@danieldaniels7571 2 ай бұрын
Been thinking this myself. Especially with Warner Music involved.
@Puglady2000
@Puglady2000 3 ай бұрын
I'm not a fan of the AI stuff at all. I think it's a can of worms we shouldn't open.
@tubadaddy76
@tubadaddy76 3 ай бұрын
Sadly, with a global release just happening on TV and online we'll have to figure it out.
@Flyingwithoutmings
@Flyingwithoutmings 3 ай бұрын
It’s a slippery slope, I think we all need to stop and think about where we’re heading. The future seems bleak
@codyclem7928
@codyclem7928 3 ай бұрын
AI is the future weather you like it or not
@Flyingwithoutmings
@Flyingwithoutmings 3 ай бұрын
@@codyclem7928 I do not like it.
@codyclem7928
@codyclem7928 3 ай бұрын
@@Flyingwithoutmings I think it has its place, but I agree with you.
@davidgray2845
@davidgray2845 3 ай бұрын
Randy Travis has one of the most iconic voices in country music. 3 seconds of his voice and I’m transported back to my childhood. I hate everything about this. I don’t want new music from Randy Travis for the same reason I don’t wanna hear a new guitar solo from EVH.
@TinManKustoms
@TinManKustoms 3 ай бұрын
I'm a big fan of Randy Travis and really happy to hear a piece of him again on radio. I like the fact that it gives him the ability to make his music his instead of just writing the song and finding someone else to sing it for him. I do agree that this is a very dangerous technology and has to be heavily regulated otherwise it could kill the entire music industry as a whole because the music industry is a showcase of talented artists.
@Zachyz
@Zachyz 3 ай бұрын
I’m excited to hear more. I had a feeling it was James Dupré, it just makes sense. James wouldn’t want the credit for lending his voice. He lends it to Randy for his tribute concerts. Technically, it’s his voice, just not his performance. Definitely should be exempt from any awards but it’s just nice to get something “new” from Randy. Watching Randy smile so big makes me happy. Keep em coming Randy, James, Kyle, Mary, and Warner!!
@beatmania3rdmix
@beatmania3rdmix 3 ай бұрын
I guess the thing that makes something like a Hatsune Miku or a Gorillaz more palatable is that behind the animation is an actual human somewhere. Vocaloids were samples of actual human singers. They weren't generated. They were actual recordings. And Gorillaz is Damon Albarn. Idk this just feels... uncanney valley.
@eddysmithmusic
@eddysmithmusic 3 ай бұрын
I really liked your analogy comparing Randy’s AI generated voice to a prosthetic limb, I think that’s absolutely right. Though I do wonder what AI could mean for future generations of musical artists, will they have the opportunities to break through like the greats did, or will they be forever overshadowed by “new” AI-generated releases from past major artists…?
@WesleyDalton15
@WesleyDalton15 3 ай бұрын
Nah the Jurassic park reference was spot on
@annmarie3573
@annmarie3573 3 ай бұрын
Or Pet Cemetery. You bring something you loved back for the dead using some unnatural means, and what you get might look similar, but you quickly realize it's not them. No soul. That's the way I feel about this song.
@WesleyDalton15
@WesleyDalton15 3 ай бұрын
@@annmarie3573 precisely
@HaHaHaHa84531
@HaHaHaHa84531 3 ай бұрын
You can tell Randy is all over this song! We neee more Randy!
@brianmenard7565
@brianmenard7565 3 ай бұрын
It will make it even harder to make it in the industry as a singer. You will have to compete against voices like Elvis and Johnny Cash.
@raveoreynolds6049
@raveoreynolds6049 3 ай бұрын
Pretty much every artist in history, has had their whole catalogue for free on KZfaq/Spotify since like 2015. New artists have to compete with that already.
@ElizabethEwins-mj9zu
@ElizabethEwins-mj9zu 3 ай бұрын
Not to mention Freddie Mercury.
@brianmenard7565
@brianmenard7565 3 ай бұрын
@@raveoreynolds6049 yeah, I thought of that as well, but now those people are creating new music
@MichaelDawson03
@MichaelDawson03 3 ай бұрын
So it shouldn't be hard to do. The two artist you mentioned happen to be two of music's legends that I can't stand the voice of. Johnny Cash couldn't sing on tempo, he was always a half step back, and Elvis' voice was simply annoying. I realize I am in the minority with my opinions, but that is part of my point. Music is subjective. I don't understand how Miranda Lambert has a career. Don't care for her music. Or Chris Jansen. But, they have careers because other people like them. Elvis and Johnny Cash don't draw me in, but a new voice like Carley Pearce or Ashley McBryde have me hooked. If they have talent and work ethic they will break through.
@Metazoa54321
@Metazoa54321 3 ай бұрын
the way it's getting used by Randy and co. here is much closer to the machine learning that artists use to develop certain digital brushes, which greatly eases massive workload/makes it possible, or even to the development of a vocal synthesizer like Vocaloid (Hatsune Miku and such, which you allude to in the vid). at the -artist- level, this is good! like with everything, it's when it gets in the hands of -execs and suits and investors- that the tech developments become worrisome. i shudder to think that someone sees this as a way to cynically milk even more from Juice WRLD's posthumous writing than many folks did (and still do! and he's been gone for almost 5 years now!!)
@kalebbryce
@kalebbryce 3 ай бұрын
Why is this such a Black Mirror episode… I swear everything from that show comes true. Such a bleak reality
@biggirlonatreadmill1209
@biggirlonatreadmill1209 3 ай бұрын
It’s the one with Miley Cyrus! (Don’t remember the episode name. Just her character is called Ashley O)
@MACMAMI
@MACMAMI 3 ай бұрын
Or Skynet in the Terminator movies.
@danicee
@danicee 3 ай бұрын
I honestly don’t know how to feel because he hasn’t been able to sing as he once could because of the stroke making it physically impossible for him to perform but he’s able to make decisions for himself as he’s aware and alive. This sets a precedent for estates to approve songs on behalf of the talent they rep… I think if someone isn’t alive to consent to something being made with their branding it shouldn’t be allowed, but that happens all the time. For example, having a hologram of Whitney Houston perform is so dystopian to me but she was alive when that tech was first being used at festivals so it’s possible she could have discussed this with her management. As for whether she did, the public only knows as much as they are willing to share. I also think that this will make it even harder for new talent to emerge because they’ll be competing with the greats again and that is definitely strange to think about. If a single by an AI mimicking Elvis releases would other new releases be able to outperform that? Also, how would tours happen with AI music without performers because I’m not paying to watch a hologram.
@user-jp2tq9mg3d
@user-jp2tq9mg3d 3 ай бұрын
I’m all for Randy being able to do this but I don’t think anything Ai generated should be regarded in awards or chart against a real person singing.
@jking54544
@jking54544 3 ай бұрын
This AI stuff is evolving by the minute. I've been working on this year long project for work, and we've been working to integrate AI into it, and by the time we found our solution, AI evolved enough to require another look and, ultimately a different solution. As for Randy's song ... and the use of AI in this regard. If an artist is alive and can't create (like Randy), and they can give their blessing, I'm all for it. We saw the CBS bit about it Sunday morning and spent the day outdoors, listening to Randy's catalog and reminding ourselves how amazing he is. We probably would just wait til he shows up on a classic country playlist otherwise. If the artist isn't around anymore? That's where it gets muddy for me. I don't want to hear "new" Johnny Cash songs created by AI. No matter what, AI is going to change things, whether we like it or not.
@Tayme-fs3oy
@Tayme-fs3oy 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for not bashing Randy but I’m sure he’s just happy and excited to hear his own voice in a new song. Prolly like a kid on Christmas. Music means the world to him and he approves of this musics message and that’s what matters to me 💯🙏🏻🙏🏻I do agree with what your saying and I don’t listen to non -artist approved AI songs tho either 💯💯💯💯
@garyr7027
@garyr7027 3 ай бұрын
Between AI and deep fake technology, i can unequivocally state we'll all be regretting it later. You can't just say AI is good for this or that in certain circumstances and not expect it to be highly abused like it already has. So much for real talent, won't need it now we have AI to do it and no one gets paid except for the ones who releases song with AI. Can't drag anyone to court over copyright violations on a song that generated by AI vocals unless it's a lyrics violation that can be proven. As far as the voice, it's no ones except for AI. Ai will be severely abused, make no mistake about it.
@annmarie3573
@annmarie3573 3 ай бұрын
Yes! The takes of "Randy's got his voice back." It's not his voice! It's a computer. No matter how convincing it might be.
@etownshawn
@etownshawn 3 ай бұрын
2030: Taylor Swift releases 250 albums in 1 day. yikes We could be living in the final decade of authenticity
@mrfyisms
@mrfyisms 3 ай бұрын
If Randy Travis wants to AI a Randy Travis song, I'm ok with that. But the line will get blurry and this technology will be abused.
@JoeyMetcalf80
@JoeyMetcalf80 3 ай бұрын
Honestly since I’ve been exposed to James Dupre since he was recording covers in his bedroom on KZfaq. I could obviously hear James intonation in the vocals still even with the overlay of Randy’s voice. But it sounds very close to an original song. Perhaps only those like me would even notice that, and that shows how AI is going down the rabbit hole I’m sure will make people uneasy.
@mac7133
@mac7133 3 ай бұрын
As a mountain biker, I equate this to the use of electric mountain bikes. If using AI is what makes you able to sing, by all means, go for it! But if you're perfectly capable of singing, back off. Older people who ride electric mountain bikes, I'm okay with, because it keeps them on the trail, but if you're 25 and in great shape, don't. As for using AI to bring back artists who have died, I don't like that. Dead people can't ride bikes, electric or not, dead people can't sing.
@prestonfreeman8443
@prestonfreeman8443 3 ай бұрын
My first initial thought was I've been blown away that the Randy Travis has bounced back from a massive stroke. And he went through soo much hardship and came back with an heart touching song that i couldn't believe 🙏. But not knowing it was all AI, I already felt skeptical. But 🙏 for Randy Travis
@stardustbuilt
@stardustbuilt 2 ай бұрын
I think AI needs to be examined case-by-case. Randy being on board creating a new song with AI is probably the only way he can still “create” in an art form he loves and it feels so wholesome and joyful and I love that for him. On the flip side, an author landed in hot water for suspected AI use on a book they were perfectly capable of writing themselves, they’ve just gotten too big for their britches, and fans were upset by what they viewed to be a blatant cash grab. Stuff like that is where AI use gets icky.
@adamplanner2143
@adamplanner2143 2 ай бұрын
I think this is when AI is used right. Randy Travis was involved in the whole process. This is HIS voice approved by himself and it is a beautiful song
@americancarguy
@americancarguy Ай бұрын
If Randy didn't have a part of it I'd be against it, but he did and from the interview he gets lots of joy out of it. Out of having his voice out there doing something he loves that was robbed of him by the stroke.
@ModestNeophyte
@ModestNeophyte 2 ай бұрын
Make no mistake about it, that's Randy's voice. Technology was used to create a vocal prosthetic. We are happy to see amputees use technology to function, so why not Randy? If anyone's earned the right to do it, it's him.
@edyer01
@edyer01 3 ай бұрын
First it was the Beatles using AI to help create and isolate George Harrison (22 years after his death) and John Lennon’s (43 years after his death) voices to be combined with Ringo Starr and Paul McCartney to bring us the first Beatles AI song ever and now we have AI helping us hear Randy Travis‘s beautiful singing voice and a great song again. AI is going to do some tremendous things when it comes to bringing, the voices back of great singers that have had tragic accidents happen to them cutting their careers short. This is just amazing to hear. First, The Beatles used AI to a final finishing song to the band, closing the chapter of the greatest band in history and now Randy Travis gets his voice back after 10 years, who knows what’s going to be next. Absolutely love this technology.
@joematthews4952
@joematthews4952 2 ай бұрын
This is a Randy song. Yes, James is involved in the singing, but all he does is provide the rhythm of the vocals for the song so that the AI has a pattern to follow. He is also directed in doing this by Randy. If Randy writes a song, tells James how he wants it to be sung, down to each individual word, vocal inflections, pitch, raise pitch on this word, dip down at the end of that line, belt that, head voice there etc, and the voice is taken from Randy's own voice then effectively, it's not really different from him singing it himself. That's exactly what he would do if he were singing it himself. The only difference is that he doesn't have to use his vocal chords because the technology can take the sound he made years ago and do that part for him. For all intents and purposes, this song is his song and no different than if he were to sing it himself, he just did it in a way most people don't.
@HOTRODINATOR
@HOTRODINATOR 3 ай бұрын
I can’t believe you said “on the one hand” at 3:45 and didn’t continue with “but on the other hand” It would’ve been too easy
@GradySmith
@GradySmith 3 ай бұрын
Hahahha I literally realized I missed that after 😭
@chordsofwood
@chordsofwood 3 ай бұрын
Conflicted, definitely. Perhaps if I were in RT's shoes, I would be elated at this opportunity. But, because it's not a real-time performance captured by recording technology, I can't and won't give it my blessing. As we tamper with AI, fast forward a 100 years, and recording arts by real people will be a cottage industry that few will make a living at. If we as a society embrace this artificial entertainment with votes of eyes, ears and dollars, then we'll get what we deserve. What's next, live performances enhanced by AI, and the stage performer isn't even singing, but has a manipulated sound that takes the best of a Toby Keith and blends it with George Strait? What a strange road to take.
@davidhochstetler4068
@davidhochstetler4068 3 ай бұрын
It’s a beautiful song. I wish Randy was able to do it with his own voice, it would have been one of his best
@colesandberg5202
@colesandberg5202 3 ай бұрын
I am all for it if the artist themselves are apart of the process and Randy’s case with being not be able sing and giving them there voices back. But I do not want artists who are no longer with us use ai
@mikestewart3670
@mikestewart3670 3 ай бұрын
Definitely think this is slippery slope. People already using AI in nefarious ways.
@Undeadmetalhead87
@Undeadmetalhead87 3 ай бұрын
I already hate it!
@shawngroth4292
@shawngroth4292 3 ай бұрын
I think things created with AI should be label as such. Give the consumer the choice.
@tanksinatra3968
@tanksinatra3968 26 күн бұрын
He can express his feelings again and sing his heart out.
@carverpartin6604
@carverpartin6604 3 ай бұрын
I’m not gonna lie your birthday song shocked me. The way the chorus hit and the vocals went wide and stacked and then came back to one centered blew my mind - if the entire song was generated with one push of a button that’s freaking NUTS
@RayNotCharles
@RayNotCharles 3 ай бұрын
Hmmm, after watching your take on this Grady, Im on the fence now too. I seen CoJo, Clay Walker, and Josh Turners reactions to it and I was like “wow! If popular/legendary artists like those guys were damn near in tears hearing this, it’s gotta be good”. And so I was looking forward to it. Now, however, as much as I love Randy Travis and I’m not trying to take anything away from him, he’s an absolute miracle for having survived his stroke. And it’s amazing he’s made the progress in recovery that he’s made. Buuuuuut, I feel like people are forgetting all about movies like The Matrix, I, Robot, Surrogates, Terminator, etc. I’m sure that the people that made the machines in those movies had really good intentions, but even so….😟
@TheViolaBuddy
@TheViolaBuddy 3 ай бұрын
As someone also into Vocaloid music, which you referenced near the end of the video, I think this is exactly like that. A voice provider intentionally creates a thing which is used with their consent to create vocals in a song. In this case, unlike in Vocaloid, the voice provider even takes part directly in the creation of the song (with Vocaloid, the voice is put together as a product that's released to the public and anyone who buys the product can create any song). To be clear, Vocaloid concerts don't consist of songs "by Hatsune Miku" in the sense that she wrote the songs; the concert organizers ask the most popular independent songwriters for permission to play their songs, and these "song producers," as they're called in the Vocaloid space, are credited as the main artist behind their respective songs, even if Hatsune Miku's name tends to be remembered more in the public's conception. But this case with Randy Travis may be a slippery slope, which is why it's good to talk about it. Because yes, at this point a singer might be able to make songs while incapacitated - but even more, even a non-incapacitated singer might just push forward simply making a higher volume of songs because they can distribute the work among people instead of needing to physically be there to record each one, which really feels like we're losing something special about it at that point. And indeed, with the technology existing there's a thin line between consenting usage and nonconsenting usage. As you say, this includes deceased people - which has happened already! Chinese pop star Teresa Teng from the 70s (probably the single biggest name from that era) was recreated with AI a couple years ago, which... yeah, is extremely uncomfortable as a concept.
@tamberjune
@tamberjune 3 ай бұрын
I am so freaking glad for Randy and his team to be working with this. I think Having the explicit permission of the performer themselves needs to be there. Your friend is amazing for getting that amazing birthday song to you!
@tallestmountain
@tallestmountain 3 ай бұрын
it was done with his blessing and input. It used a tool to aid him in singing, just like we use tools to help someone to walk. As long as it is done up front and honest I dont see anything wrong with it.
@gothard5
@gothard5 3 ай бұрын
on the one hand . . . I see what you did there . . . but on the other hand . . . there’s a wedding band
@andrewgriffin2366
@andrewgriffin2366 3 ай бұрын
Am writing a piece about this, focusing on Steve Marriott (Small Faces, Humble Pie) and while the widow favors AI recordings, while Marriott's children are against the idea. This is going to be a BIG issue going forward.
@easyenglishwithrachael1931
@easyenglishwithrachael1931 3 ай бұрын
Disable people should have a right to create art. All parties consented. There is no can of worms here
@evanogden
@evanogden 3 ай бұрын
Are we just gunna skip past the fact Grady just made a ‘on one hand… but on the other hand’ reference and didn’t even acknowledge it?
@jeremywj
@jeremywj Ай бұрын
AI needed someone to help us accept the future. It found Randy. Randy was perfect. Wow... This is proof AI knows what it is doing. Welcome back Randy. Welcome AI.
@crhollifield2012
@crhollifield2012 3 ай бұрын
i think a good president of artist being involved and giving their blessing and collaborating is important, not just people using this to duplicate the voice of someone passed or exploited
@GunnyWolf-rt8qs
@GunnyWolf-rt8qs 3 ай бұрын
No disrespect to Randy; to see what he's been through and see him keep pushing on is amazing. But this is the reason Zach Bryan is such a megastar: no AI, no Autotune, no BS. If AI tried to copy Zach Bryan the computer would eat itself for brunch and go up in a cloud of smoke.
@tanyaelias7683
@tanyaelias7683 3 ай бұрын
It could be a slippery slope, however Randy is cognitive and on board to this. It is pretty amazing to use this technology to allow him to sing again.
@troyc333
@troyc333 2 ай бұрын
New music from a dead artist is controversial as that person did not and can not give their consent to do so. Randy is alive and agreed to this. This is the type of things AI should be used for. To give a person their voice back. An all new AI artist - if you can find enough "fans" to support that sort of thing, the record producers would crank them out all day long.
@emeqgershown3064
@emeqgershown3064 3 ай бұрын
I’ve been listening to Randy’s new release and I think it’s great, mainly because he wants to continue to be an entertainer and physically can’t. I would be against doing this with artists that are dead, but Randy’s alive. I will say AI has a ways to go yet, I can hear the difference between music he actually did and this release, but it’s still good, it’s just not perfect. Remember the Beatles finished a song written by John and by the time the AI was ready only Paul and Ringo were still alive. It didn’t really sound like the Beatles, but Johns voice is there and some of Georges guitar works from an earlier attempt was there, so it think they honored the memories of those who were dead by the time it was completed. I hope they continue to improve on this an Randy gets more releases, totally real or not, I’ll buy them. Ps. I hate the idea of AI in almost every way, but it’s in our cars and on our phones. If your worried this will take over things, it already is: sky-net from Terminator is not far off.
@LynetteTheMadScientist
@LynetteTheMadScientist 3 ай бұрын
The thing that really needs to happen is we need a law in place that requires everyone to disclose when AI is involved in a project. Just like ads are required to be labeled as ads
@jamesdaniels8007
@jamesdaniels8007 3 ай бұрын
I think I’m a case like Randy’s it’s a good thing because he physically can’t sing the way he used to but has so much left to offer. Is it the same, absolutely not, you can’t replicate his unique voice, but this allows him to still contribute to country music.
@TheCharley53
@TheCharley53 3 ай бұрын
I can almost hear it now, " Hello, I'M Johnny Cash AI" If you're not performing Live How will they know it's not really You! Don't let the real Music Die!
@FitxFresh
@FitxFresh 3 ай бұрын
Other mainstream country artists have already been releasing AI music. They just haven’t admitted it yet
@karynmaddox9397
@karynmaddox9397 2 ай бұрын
Proper use of AI. It's touching that Randy can continue to make music.
@Geeksmithing
@Geeksmithing 3 ай бұрын
Who would the recipient of the CMA or Grammy be? Randy? The underlying vocalist? The audio engineer or programmer?
@gchewning
@gchewning 3 ай бұрын
If it were about Randy’s ability to hear his “own voice” again they wouldn’t be making money with it. It’s not compassion; it’s capitalism. And capitalism is fine- but art generated by artificial intelligence is not fine.
@annmarie3573
@annmarie3573 3 ай бұрын
This!!!! ☝️
@dprobinson192587
@dprobinson192587 3 ай бұрын
the biggest problem i have with it, is that they didnt come out front and say what it was. They got the first day streams and then came out with it.
@urabampot
@urabampot 3 ай бұрын
The greatest country voice in history is BACK!!... we all know if he could he would play this live, and it would sound exactly like this... AI finally did something right!!... unlike other PC auto tune phonies!!.... (Taylor Swiftless & Bouncy for example)... noone would criticize his wheelchair because he cant walk... Well done Team Randy, Welcome back Hoss... Now get making more while you can still approve releases...
@cornfieldcloset
@cornfieldcloset 3 ай бұрын
Randy deserves to live his dream the best he can. Nobody should bash him in any way
@jrex7486
@jrex7486 3 ай бұрын
It’s just like an alternative communication device, but it’s used for singing. He’s happy using it, so that’s what matters. I like it.
@FirefighterKWann
@FirefighterKWann 3 ай бұрын
I think Randy earned the right, and people fear what they don’t understand. AI people fear cause they think it’s all evil. This proves it does not, and I’m so happy for him.
@AGENTARMES
@AGENTARMES 3 ай бұрын
People will always respond to authenticity. I think the responsible thing to do is to be obligated to inform the listener that it’s AI and not a real person
@logical_volcel
@logical_volcel 3 ай бұрын
that happy birthday grady song goes exceptionally hard though
@hawaiifiles
@hawaiifiles 3 ай бұрын
Randy Travis coming back as A.I. with his approval... I am fine with that. It is a step above what The Beatles did late last year with "Now And Then", which used A.I. to clean up an old John Lennon track and layered parts from the other 3 Beatles over it.... with George also being dead too. I think it an artist or their estate approves of it, it would be OK.
@MusicOrLoseItTV
@MusicOrLoseItTV 3 ай бұрын
No. Let tech replace awful labor jobs - not human creativity. Why not dead singers like Drake just did with 2Pac or comedian Will Sasso did with George Carlin (both got legal). William Shatner just did a stupid AI music video. The AI shapeshift vids are played out now.
@erikdaniels0n
@erikdaniels0n 3 ай бұрын
My mind immidiately went to that AI Carlin special. It’s such a can of worms and I hate it
@MusicOrLoseItTV
@MusicOrLoseItTV 3 ай бұрын
@@erikdaniels0nYep.
@Ragtop_Jalopy
@Ragtop_Jalopy 3 ай бұрын
If Randy is part of the whole dynamic of the song...I'm totally for it! He has such a unique song, and the song is beautiful...if this was someone 'copying' Randy, I'd call it out...but Randy is limited, but the passion is still there! I'm all for it....Randy is singing this in his heart, and this is the only option for him....I think it's a wonderful thing in ''this'' scenario!
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