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Making ever possible character in the Custodes Combat Patrol (no enhancements) gets you 1 Blade Champ, 2 Shield Captains (one from each non terminator kit), 3 Terminator Shield Captains, 4 Wardens and 4 Guard which is the min for each of those kits and totals out to 1190 points. The value in that box is INSANE.

The Guard Patrol only adds up to about 360 points. If I were getting into The Guard now I'd try to hunt down a Cadian Defense Force box instead of the Combat Patrol box.

one issue with the grey knights box: they are all firstborn scale kits, and there is speculation that they might get a redo soon (would only need to redo 2 kits to refresh almost the whole grey knights range.) also waiting to see if they get rolled into imperial agents. so a lot of people are waiting to see what happens this edition before buying in too heavily. (for example, castellan crowe is a newer model, and he looks AWESOME, but he's like, comically taller than the squad he's meant to lead.) also as an aside, the eldar box is solid, i bought 2. windriders are super fast and great for secondaries, and they absolutely shred MEQ targets. the guardians CAN be build as either version from the kit, and you end up with a ton of extra bits, which has been great for kitbashing. the farseer is unfortunately monopose, but he's easy to kitbash into other eldar characters like spirit seers, warlocks, etc. the wraithlord is in an awkward place this edition, but it did just get a points drop so it's more usable now than before. i do think if you want to play eldar you are gonna want other stuff beyond this to get started (a falcon is a very solid thing to grab early, some rangers or striking scorpions...) some of the "meta" eldar units like swooping hawks, fire dragons, and warp spiders are still ancient kits that people usually hunt down the old metal models for. likely to get a refresh of some of those when the codex comes out.

The Admech box was F tier in 9th and it still is

For the two Leviathan Combat Patrol Kits, just buy the current 'Warhammer 40,000 Starter Set' for $112/£67.50 You get... (Marines): 1x Captain in Terminator Armour, 5x Terminators, 5x Infernus Marines, and ('Nids) 1x Winged Tyranid Prime, 1x Psychophage, 3x Von Ryan’s Leapers, 20x Termagants, and 2x Ripper Swarms, along with a small battlemat, some introductory rules, reference cards, and a pair of _F@#&I%$ RULERS, MAN! RULERS! TWO OF 'EM!_ for £67.50. Use the savings to pick up any of the other "missing" bits (I think it's like just the the 5x barb gaunts [£28] and the librarian [£25]) you might want, and you will still come off better than buying one each of the two Combat Patrol boxes.

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Nothing like listening to creators I like talking about a topic that tickles my thinky bits. I've already watched Poorhammer, Bricky and AuspexTactics discuss the combat patrols, and now I'm excited to do the same with you two. Even as a very enfranchised player, it's fun to consider the worth of boxes like the combat patrols, and how good (or...not good) some of them are for both new and veteran players.

The Space Marine combat patrol is in fact the worst, because even if you wanted those models for some insane reason to start your army with, its cheaper to get them in the starter box than buy the combat patrol AND you'd end up with a second nid army for a friend that cost you literally northing.

the problem with BA patrol is that GW won't put firstborn units in that, that's why we got subpar primaris mix

The original Black Templar army came with the Emperor’s champion along with the Marshall

This is the best episode so far, and frankly, less chudwatch was part of that.

The Eldar CP is an absolute gem def. deserved better.

Two of the custodes boxes is 1560 points lol. Pretty legit.

don't mean to come off as too combative but the guard combat patrol really isn't very good. if you want to talk about what the guard is good at and does well, none of it is in this box. Unless you want to run a very specific blend of infantry and sentinels with FOBs as backup (which... why would you do that?) the box doesn't actually give you that much of a taste of what guard is really about. Sentinels are far from our best core vehicle, and while I like the kit it's hardly a worthy centerpiece over a Chimera or Leman Russ. You could try and argue logistics because the box can only be so big, but i'm sure there exists a way to put a limited selection leman russ in that box. they're not exactly opposed to fixed loadout units in Combat patrols. As it stands it's a mediocre single time buy, and a bad repeat buy, even if you're new to Guard.

As a new player I got the Death Guard combat patrol, I hated it! I won 1 in 4 but after buying a few more ranged models and bigger more wound models like the PBC and Wardogs Im winning a lot more and Im actually enjoying it. I glad I stuck with them! But yeah the CP is horrendous!

max 365 pts in the guard box, idk where you guys got almost 500

1:12:50 "Ten dogs!" is a health code violation waiting to happen.

Let's be honest.... Nothing from GW is "good value" 😂

I've only ever bought one combat patrol.... and it was Deathwatch 😅

I love how so much of this is just "guessing" what was in a box

Hot take but I think the Blood Angels combat patrol is A-tier. Hear me out... So you think Blood Angels and you rightfully imagine a ton of jetpack guys doing jetpack things. But there are also what I like to call "eat your vegetables" unit. Scoring, fire support, etc. The unsexy stuff you'll need for a balanced list. In this box, the Intercessors and the phobos guys (built as Infiltrators) pretty much cover all the scoring units you'll need for a 2k point army. The impulsor is good for moving scoring units, or if you decide to get footslogging melee units. The librarian is the weak link, but this box is perfectly complemented by either the Dark Angels combat patrol or the Leviathan box, so he'll have a fire support unit to back up. But the secret sauce, the thing that makes it shine? It's the BA upgrade sprue. As long as you're playing Blood Angels or you're like me and you're homebrewing a successor, you can turn a cheap box of units into every character you'll ever need. Buy one box of jump intercessors: That blooddrop helmet and some other gubbinz can turn two of them into jump captains. Use the unhelmeted heads and the generic sword/pistols to help make sanguinary jump priests. Use the last of it to turn the final guy into a jump chaplain if you so desire. Yeah it doesn't cover the stuff you're most excited about, but it's still a fantastic way to start and you can always run Gladuis games early on, where you're less punished by missed charges or bad melee matchups. Edit: Space Marine combatp atrol is the worst, to the point of inventing a new tier below D. Even 10 Intercessors means you can get scoring units or convert some of them. You could but the Starter Set plus a Termie Librarian and get a better discount than the SM ComPat, and get free tyranids to keep or resell after the fact. Plus, the marine box doesn't even let you put both leaders in units. Terrible, awful organization, clearly just a grab bag of whatever models happened to be new at the release of 10th.

Impulsors got upgraded to 7 capacity in the last rules patch so you can run 6BGV and a character now, not sure if y'all recorded before the rules update dropped, it was a somewhat easily missed change and I honestly don't recall if it came out ahead of or after the SoB rules.

Old world PK, this is where it's at!

Not seeing the drukhari box as the obvious S-tier is just racism towards the angry emo boys. Why the hate tho? They're quite fun to play super fast glass cannons. Took you long enough to place them in S-tier. I seriously thought that was the S-tier box you talked about in the beginning lol

I don't even play warhammer, but these podcasts are hyping me to do so.

This vid feels low key poorly researched and out of date on release

it would have been interesting if it was a tier list about combat patrols in their own format, but, as often happens, everything gets rated as price per point/utility in main 40k. which it's what everyone else always talks about so, snore.

K sons is the worst box in the game. Only contested by Admech.

I don't play 40k but use a lot of the CPs for kill team. Sell the vehicles and heros and I get free kill teams. But as an outsider, I will weep for Drukhari players when that box is replaced, just like the genestealers got shafted. Shrinkflation has come to GW. Pay more and ya get less.

I can only think of two in the US. Most are in teh UK or Canada, or the odd ducks in Australia.

Loved the video and y’all’s explanations on them, sorry you were feeling like shite while doing it and I’m only saying this jokingly but I feel a tad sad/miffed that death guard wasn’t just a bit higher 😂 hell I bought mine second hand loved all the Marines and getting Tiphus and painting them up I didn’t put together my pox walkers cuz genuinely 1: it seemed daunting as it was my first big purchase of a 40k box and the rest of my reasons cuz I personally think pox walkers are dumb and when i eventually build my army up I’m gonna make a point to never use them as a kinda joke should someone ask why 😂

What about the new Combat Patrol for Sisters?

Guard one is unusable bad Sentinel is the only good thing id put in D

The grey knight combat patrol is better than the custodes one

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I think death guard is an A. When you first start a hobby, you have purchases that are not exciting that you have to make to move forward; nobody's jumping for joy over their new snips or glue, but you need them. Same here, you buy the one patrol, you have some basic stuff and all the poxwalkers you'll ever need, and you're good.

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