The Phantom Ship map is so funny to me because it feels so strange compred to the large majority of FE8 maps. It has actually decently strong enemies hidden in fog, it features strong reinforcements that will likely catch you off guard and you can't even low man the map reliably a lot of the time, because you might struggle to reach the other ship before L'Arachel dies. It feels like an FE6 map in its design and I can't help but respect the sudden huge difficulty spike.

Technically, village of silence is peak map design because most of the map is peak tiles.

Mekkah really forgot thracia when talking about games with rescue I can’t I’m going to cry in my pillow rn

Some shops have different items in them during the chapter and after. Most notably the nosferatu tome cannot be bought from the world map shops but the Chapter 17 shop sells them when you are playing the chapter.

Chapter 4 is the first time the game introduces you to the HIGHLY threatening monster enemies such as Revenants that get 1v1'd by Ross and 100 exp bomb Entombeds

I hope this "series" continues, I would love to see how all the FE games compare.

5x is mostly a story map, but it does introduce the concepts of lords being good, vulnerary/elixer management (it's the first real map without a healer), and OP weapons. Also that you can keep winning even if most of your army is lost.

One time in a draft run I fed Forde literally every kill on 5x and ever since it's become a horrible habit every time i've played FE8 since

To prove how bad 12 Eirika is, I showed Village of Silence's map to someone who has never played FE8 before and asked if that sounded fun to him. His immediate response was 'Not in the slightest.' Jumpy23 was right, no one likes 12 Eirika.

I missed cormag in the canyon map because Seth just walked right with a javelin and basically soloed the map.

Mekkah, can you fix them? (= Make them all A-tier or better) It might make for a fun video to try and fix those maps.

By no means do I love 5x, but I think that the concept is very cool. It's you, three other units (two if you don't want to waste EXP on Orson, one if you're also Mekkah) and a whole bunch of enemies. I've seen a lot of players and romhacks "fix" the map by making one of the walls breakable so you can skip the giant loop, which generally helps make it more fun imo

I actually really enjoy 5x because of the story elements. Even if the map design isn't great, there's just something about storming a castle with only 4 men that makes you feel like an absolute chad.

I actually quite like the ephraim chapter, the game tells you h3y we have limited supplies and have to eke our way thru this mission, and it rly feels like it. I like the managing your super limited heals and trading around the weapons. I like when the games kinda forcibly say, here's your limited team that will always be the same challenge for this one chapter. RD also has a couple maps like this that I rly enjoy too, like the brom Nephenee chapter for instance

I love hearing you breakdown maps like this would love it for some of the other games.

I agree with all your map rankings, didn't expect that but I guess it's just SS being uncontroversial as usual.

heck yeah been hoping for this since the FE6 one. Thanks mekkah

I really hope these continue. I’m guessing FE7 might be next? Whatever game you end up tiering will be a fun watch!

I get what you're saying with the Ch 15 take but like can we be real here? It's unknowable rng-based treasure tiles you have to look up ahead of time to get some of your best items in the entire game; that's just really scuffed game design

5x is a D Tier because Forde is force deployed

I love ALL Mekkah videos!!!! ❤

I agree with most general placements. Things I would change (text incoming): CH3 in B because it plays very slow, even for an early game map. But maybe that's just enjoyment. CH9A in S because I found little reason not to. There is not that much chapter left once it calms down and I am not giving it a downstrike for it. CH11A maybe in B, but that's likely taste: I agree with most that has been said. It has some tricky reinforcements and in my memory L'Arachel and Dozla ARE in danger if you wait too long, so there is anti-turtling. I believe that makes a B map here. - also fine with C. CH11B is A tier for me. What I don't like about the map is the FoW obscuring that the Mogalls and Gargoyles are there, but do not move: they appear out of nowhere if you do not know they are there, because they don't signal as reinforcements. (And I don't like the Deathgoyle's Short Spear killing me at the end). But once you know the map, it is a very challenging and fun map. I never had to play it with dropping Duessel and Seth on the ship and don't believe low-manning is the easiest way to go: in turn leads to more player phase and less enemy phase action. And it has epic proportions and there is excitement to me when it comes up and that is are hard to ignore. A tier for me - poor use of FoW keeping it from S. (For a first time playthrough it can go lower, but that argument can also very well be made for CH19). CH17 is B or A for me. I rarely rush a boss and don't think I would hold it against a map that you could with some effort. I never felt that it makes you feel that is required or the intended way to go. And the enjoyment thing - wouldn't say 'eh'. Don't feels fair next to CH7. CH18 I would maybe put in A, but I see the point of B. I still want to reward it for the Gorgon Egg mechanic though. CH20 I'd say B. Can feel epic on some days and very tedious on others. Hate it when the end goes wrong. But I don't think it is a bad map as a map: it is the finale after all and feels like it in enemy numbers - which imo are not that easy. Sure the Wights are, but those Gwyllgi and Elder Baels? More of a tier-definition thing: most of what you have in D, I label as 'training maps' and I do not object to the presence of theseof maps (worst maps but I won't call them bad). They reach my C tier when I deem them well placed in the game structure. This gives an extra redeeming factor to CH9B, 12A and 12B given what they lead up to (or follow in case of double maps). So my D-tier is 5x - though it is nice for story, it has in play about as much variation as the prologue - and 14A: a tedious training map with a horrible boss, the mentioned weird 1-way door mechanics, a lot of walking and waiting and a bit anti-climactic for a CH14 compared to Ephraim's Grado Keep. Even when you take into account Eirika's route is supposed to be easier, there are a lot of other ways to do so and I never enjoy it much. Spelvreugde doet veel.

5:20 I've been working on an FE8 hack for a bit that changes this fighter to a swordmaster who drops a killing edge. Made sure Forde and Orson are the only ones who can use it at that point. Kill two birds with one stone Also: yes please more tier lists, love the map tier list idea but I'm a sucker for any tier list content haha

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nice choice of White Bat's music

Does the gameplay footage that you put on came from your fe8 lunatic mode?

The D is for the desert map

Loved FE8 when I played through it as a kid, and playing through it again now I'm still a huge fan, but I hear a lot of vitriol towards it online. Is it just because you can solo seth stomp the whole thing on vanilla difficulties?

Obligatory "How could you rate Ephraim 9 low? This is the map of the great Gheb." comment.^^

Selena map is essentially FE6 14x with villages so it's one tier higher. I guess that makes sense

I forgot about chapter 12 for Ephraim. Doesn’t particularly stand out. Erika 12 stands out more by just being annoying.

anything with an arena is peak

Doesn't chapter 7 introduce ballista? The boss even mentions it

Nice

I feel like lots of people dread 5x. It's a very boring map, I just always use Orson to get it over wtih quicker.

Does Mekkah hate any unit more than Forde?

D for forDe

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I don't disagree with most of your points although I would put most maps a tier higher

I hate 5x too but i think it teaches new players that you cant hoard elixirs etc.

This is my opinion *enter opinion here* I didn’t watch the video at all, I’m just sharing this. (Hi 44:00 :) )

Did I miss something or did you just skip FE7 lol

chapter 5x SUCKS

Since its fe8 all maps go down 2 teirs